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Oct 12, 2009 12:56 PM
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I've been frustrated that Eclipse doesn't have this episode up yet (last week it went up Sunday night!)


They're probably doing the karaoke thingy for the new OP and ED, we should be patient xD


Good call. Hadn't thought of that.
 
Oct 12, 2009 1:23 PM

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Meh recap is probably useful to some people. But not me as I've seen FMA twice and read the manga...
 
Oct 12, 2009 2:19 PM
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I was kind of glad they did a recap, made me remember some of the story line I had forgotten. Its hard to keep track when you only watch one episode a week and are watching other shows and also have stuff in RL going on.
Also I don't know any of the manga and the OP didn't spoil anything.
 
Oct 12, 2009 3:05 PM

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okay, so I just finished it.
Really it wasn't that bad.
Although the new opening is spoilerish I think it is very interesting to watch.
Didn't make it though the ending though.
There were some interesting moments in that back telling though.

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Oct 12, 2009 3:51 PM
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Spoiler filled opening, oh my.

OH MY GOD GENERAL ARMSTRONG FUCK YES MY LIFE IS COMPLETE

I just want to say now comes my favourite arcs of FMA.
Flashback + Briggs

What the hell was up with Winry-centric ending? D:

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Oct 12, 2009 4:21 PM

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3/5...I thought the ep was ok. i don't get wut ppl are so mad about.it helps sum ppl to remember wut has happened so far. ok it was a bit confusing and boring got to admit but some weird way i kinda liked it too. and yep the op kinda sucked but it's not like i was a big fan of the previous op either so whatever...^^ and that being said can't wait for the next ep :)



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Oct 12, 2009 5:09 PM

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Well I don't like the new opening and ending themes. And I don't really like aired recaps much anyways.
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Oct 12, 2009 5:50 PM

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DAMMIT, I was so looking forward to this episode. BOOOOO for recaps.
 
Oct 12, 2009 6:05 PM

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Boring episode... ¬¬
at least the next 'll be nice.

 
Oct 12, 2009 6:11 PM

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Biggest question after watching this episode: How the hell did Pinako shrink to less than half her size? Also, did Winry's dad take the Rockbell name? They're referred to as the Rockbells, so I assumed that Pinako is the maiden name. But it's not. That's weird.

Besides that, it's a clever attempt at a recap episode that pretty much butchers context and makes a short stab at the most obvious (and shounen) theme: Humans have endless capabilities as long as they try.

Boring.

Oh, and we went from exceptional J-pop for the opening and endings to run-of-the-mill, more representative of the industry, shitty J-poop. I really hope they don't try to incorporate these songs the way they did Let It Out. They're real mood killers. They really squandered all the momentum from last week.
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Oct 12, 2009 7:00 PM

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Only thing good was the new OP. love the song
 
Oct 12, 2009 7:19 PM

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Ugh, such a downer when your looking forwar to an episode and you get a recap.
 
Oct 12, 2009 7:21 PM
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Useless recap is useless. Do people even have such a short-term memory that they can't remember the plot just 20-some episodes in? Recap episodes always suck and this has been no exception. BTW, I think you guys are better at spoiling that the episode itself. The only thing the episode did was play on Hohenheim's secrecy and aparent apathy toward events.

 
Oct 12, 2009 8:10 PM

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It may have been a recap episode, but it's the best recap episode of any anime I've seen, that's for sure.

I also helps to have been watching this weekly since ep. 1. It's a little less fresh that way.

 
Oct 12, 2009 8:13 PM

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Recaps suck...
 
Oct 12, 2009 8:26 PM

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Meh...just a recap ep and Hohenheim centric. I'm surprised that they're already to ep 27 and have THREE openings and endings...odd.
 
Oct 12, 2009 9:47 PM

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I'm clearely in the minority here, but I really liked the OP song, LOVED the OP animation, and was VERY impressed with the episode itself. Honestly, I think it's the best recap episode I remember seeing: it kept me thinking while building strong tension. The ED animation and song... Meh. The non-rap part reminds me a bit of Hamasaki Ayumi's voice, though.
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Oct 12, 2009 9:58 PM

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the new OP rocks, and this episode was great, though it was a recap, im pretty sure they needed one at this point, plus i thought that Hoemheim's dream was pretty interesting

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Oct 12, 2009 11:05 PM

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This was the first evidence of "Shonen syndrome." Shonen Syndrome is when an anime over 26 episodes long begins to have filler episodes because they tried to go above and beyond an expected plot. I'll still be watching, but they better watch the filler, haha.


 
Oct 12, 2009 11:14 PM
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That entire episode I was confused.

It started out with, "where's Ed and Al's masters husband and why is she with Hohenheim?"

It went to "Why the hell is everyone turning to liquid?"

It then progressed to "Oh, so that's the grandmother, right? So how the hell'd she get so tiny? And she knows all about the philosophers stone? Does that mean she's in league with Hohenheim? The fucks going on here!?"

It ended with "That made as much friggin' sense as an elephant in a potato factory"

Also, thanks guys. The OP did not tell me anything, and yet you guys spoiler tagged in an episode discussion thread so I thought it was safe as this is only for discussion of this episode, so I clicked on it (I probably would have anyway, but I don't usually if I think it will actually spoiler something)

Now I know something I didn't want to yet.

 
Oct 12, 2009 11:41 PM

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wow... both songs sucked. but i guess it was a nice transition to the second half of the series... but seriously, this wasn't needed =/
 
Oct 13, 2009 12:13 AM

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A waste of an episode but the last 7 mins was great!
 
Oct 13, 2009 12:30 AM

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Evilyn said:
I love the new OP and ED. The last ones were so shitty.

really?...i found the last ones way better...although the verse/lyrics itself does seem to somehow fits...the opening was just full of spoilers such as showing briggs and somehow could have been pride as well....
I still dont get why they intended to make a recap episode.....
 
Oct 13, 2009 1:28 AM

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I don't know if its because it's 3am right now but I had a terrible time following what was going on with this episode. But eh, it was mostly a needless recap, so whatever. Disappointing considering what an excellent run the show has been on lately.

Not really feeling the new OP and ED either, but I assume I'll warm up to them.
 
Oct 13, 2009 1:35 AM
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New OP is 'meh,' but not awful. New ED is terrible. Episode itself? Completely and entirely pointless.

I'm starting the series from the beginning with a couple friends (they're on episode 4), and I'm going to strongly recommend to them that we/they skip this episode when we get to it.

It's fine when you wait a week for each episode, but when you're watching them all in a row, this episode would just bring everything to a crashing halt, and you would learn nothing new at all.

My guess is this episode was just padding to give Arakawa time to finish the manga, or at least to delay the inevitable "catch-up" point so they don't have to A) make up anime-original story like FMA1, or B) have to go on hiatus at some point while they finish the remaining episodes because they had to wait for the manga to finish.
 
Oct 13, 2009 2:52 AM

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Daithi said:
Ugh, such a downer when your looking forward to an episode and you get a recap.
This. Well at least some of my favorite scenes were there.
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Also, thanks guys. The OP did not tell me anything, and yet you guys spoiler tagged in an episode discussion thread. Now I know something I didn't want to yet.
And especially this. Fuck spoilers.
 
Oct 13, 2009 3:00 AM

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This episode is pretty.... *snore* Oh it's over.

Recap episode is eh. But I still enjoyed it.

Really enjoy the new OPEDs. More so than the earlier ones.
 
Oct 13, 2009 4:06 AM

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I actually thought it was an awesome idea to do a recap (I mean, we're at the halfway point).

It's better than most fillers I've seen since it actually brings it themes and ideas back out (conflict between despair and hope)
 
Oct 13, 2009 4:52 AM
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I was kind of hoping we could get through this series without a recap, but oh well. As far as recaps go however this one was decent, it blended new scenes with the recap smoothly and felt like an episode just with flashbacks.
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Oct 13, 2009 4:54 AM

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OH SHI-
Never again shall I eat noodles while watching anime : ( Spilled my noodles on the floor and my chocolatedrink over my keyboard >.< Well not due to FMA or anything, I was just clumsy : (
Oh well, now then, I can finally watch the episode after cleaning up : >
Wait..wat? Was Pinako actually that long when she was young?xD
Anyway, new OP, pretty good one at that, and then we've probably got ourselves a new ED too, I really liked Let it all out : ( Oh well, maybe it's just as good? I'll see in 20min : p
Hmm.. wait O.o The timeline is pretty messed up in this episode, I can't seem to decide what happened where and when xD..
O.O Two Hohenheim's?
Wee~ Still the same ED : D
This was a really great episode considering that there was mostly dialogue and flashbacks in a really confusing array xD
Funny though that it was all Hohenheims dream.
! Wat? Oh lawd I though we got to keep the ED, but no, they put in a new one afterwards : ( Clearly not as good as Let it all out, but still, pretty good visuals during the ED ^^
Next episode will most likely be awesome
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Oct 13, 2009 5:07 AM

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Mostly a recap. The animation was somewhat more fluent than usual, and heck, the new opening sucks.

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Oct 13, 2009 5:27 AM

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These guys really know the art of "how to end an episode"

opening and closing were cool too

rest it was an ok episode
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Oct 13, 2009 5:55 AM

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New OP and ED already?
 
Oct 13, 2009 5:59 AM

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New OP and ED already?

Well it's been another.. 12-13 eps or so since they changed 'em last time x)
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Oct 13, 2009 6:15 AM

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The worst episode as yet, but of course is expected of a recap episode.

All though i did think that the whole premise of this series would be that there was no fillers. I would have proffered the small amt of information/backstory of the father be presented in a proper way.
 
Oct 13, 2009 7:07 AM

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Lvhina said:


Huge edit i made....

a bad thing i seen with MAL is that people rate this show LOW because there is less action As to there actually being a story ...... wait maybe there is A HUGE character development for the anime fans ( sorry i exculed the FMA manga fans ) .

This episode was good, i have rated the previoes ones pretty low because it was just "this person fighting this" agaisnt that "person fighting that "

I give this 5/5

Fai what i dont understand is that the second it gives an actual store (rather than fighting ) you rate it a 1 of 5?

Edit: i'm not going to follow this thread becuase the opinions i see are stupid ... this was a very good episodes and ED was good too


Was there character development, Lvhina? I'm an anime only viewer, and it seemed like they tried to toss in some conflict for the sake of a recap. The fact that a problem is introduced and resolved in one episode shows how not huge it is. And since we have no notion of Hoenheim's character, we don't know when this episode took place, let alone that he was developed.

You seem to be just as bad as Fai to think the polar opposite of him regardless of the content of the story. What I see in your comment is that you don't pay attention when there is fighting going on. Forget the fact that a lot of this recap went over the fighting, you even go on to say they try to give an "actual" story here. News flash: this is a recap. You should already be painfully aware of a lot of the development that went on during this show. But I guess because it's a shounen, you zone out during the fights which have proven to be the main source of developing characters and plot.

Don't be a troll people. If you're unwilling to see the faults or feats of this show you end up sounding like a fool. Saying contrary things that don't make sense furthers that opinion people will have of you.
 
Oct 13, 2009 7:17 AM

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So... does this mean the series will run one ep per week until the end? I was kinda expecting some kind of break, but with a recap episode just now, that doesn't make much sense, now does it?
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Oct 13, 2009 7:37 AM

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Crap, i was in love with "let it all out" and i don't like this new ending full of Winry ._.
The opening is ok, but i still prefered the previous one
Recap ep, nothing much to say, except that i don't really get this "Hohenheim, other Hohenheim" thing xD well i think i'll understand someday lol
waiting for the next ep!
 
Oct 13, 2009 7:39 AM

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New opening and ending song were very decent. A few part manage to can my attention but overall very decent. I'm not sure why people dislike the second opening but I actually love it. New opening animation was very good but ending one was ok.

As for this episode, it confuse me until it is reveal that it's all just a dream. And a very weird one too. A recap dream and only a few new content.

Can't believe there are still many people rate love for this episode. I'm one of those that think recap episode are completely useless and waste of time, not matter how long a series is/are. Would prefer a week break than having a recap episode though.
 
Oct 13, 2009 8:28 AM

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So I'm the only one who doesn't mind recap episodes, huh? xD
I'm so positive, nothing can faze me. (Not easily anyway x'3) Haha

So am I the only one who cried in this episode when it was about to end? (Part when I was feeling so sad for Hohenheim while noglasses-Hohenheim was "talking" to him until LET IT OUT faded in for the last time 'til the episode ended)
Then the crap ED sequence & song came out... :'/ (does BONES love Winry that much? Srsly? lawl)
I like LilB (or whatever) but this song was BAD. D:
The OP however at first wasn't so good but as soon as the song came to middle 'til the end, it was actually pretty good and I didn't mind it. Might even like it later on.

Anyways...can't wait for the next ep. When is dear Kimbley gonna come out? >.<
So sad Greed had to die quickly as soon as he came out...but then

Moar action-y fun on the next ep. Can't wait! :'3


 
Oct 13, 2009 8:33 AM

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Am I the only one who liked this episode even tough it was a bit of a recap? I think it was kind of funny how he remembered the old days from a booze bottle. Maybe I liked it because I've read the manga.
 
Oct 13, 2009 8:58 AM

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this episode was okay, i was at first really confused when pinako mentioned human transmutation and him saying a sin is a sin and other things. in the end it was just a dream but it was an interesting way to do the recap this way.
nevertheless in my opinion this recap was not necessary not because recaps are boring or so. the main reason is why i don't really like recap and why they are unnecessary is, i have to wait for the actual episode a week longer and that's a pain in the ass <.<
i am really an impatient person, also i thought they would show a little bit about hohenheim's past, how he met trisha and other stuff, so i was a little bit disappointed with this episode =/
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Oct 13, 2009 9:31 AM
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mh...do i have to get this episode? oO
 
Oct 13, 2009 9:48 AM

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The ending was cute with Trisha.
 
Oct 13, 2009 10:03 AM

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I liked the 2nd ED better. And as for the OP, I feel like they keep getting worse. =/ Yui was the best, the 2nd OP wasn't bad, but this one isn't that good...

Blah recaps. Skipped most of the recaps and just watched the Hohenheim parts, which still weren't anything special.
 
Oct 13, 2009 10:19 AM

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I liked the 2nd ED better. And as for the OP, I feel like they keep getting worse. =/ Yui was the best, the 2nd OP wasn't bad, but this one isn't that good...

I pretty much think the same.
As for ED's, 2nd was best, then 1st, and then this I suppose.
OP's, Yui is clearly the best, 2nd was decent, but this 3rd ain't half-bad either.
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Oct 13, 2009 10:22 AM
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mh...do i have to get this episode? oO


No, not at all. It's just a clip show with some anime-original dream sequence thrown in around the clips to make it more interesting. You will miss absolutely nothing if you skip it entirely.
 
Oct 13, 2009 10:22 AM

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It was excellent for a recap episode.
The new OP & ED are both great. Animation and soundtrack is still as awesome as always. Next episode looks great.
 
Oct 13, 2009 12:01 PM
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First off, don't do recap episodes (and even less filler)! Just take a break if you're tired. We're not addicts, we can wait , for goodness' sake. :P

That being said, this was probably the "least bad" recap/filler episode I've ever seen. It still was uncalled for though.

Second, why are people making such a fuss about OP and ED. They're not that bad (or that good), you just haven't got used to them yet.

Looking forward to the next installment, as always. :)
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Oct 13, 2009 12:03 PM

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Pointless episode was kind of pointless, but I'm used to it from recap episodes in other series so it didn't bother me that much. Loli!Trisha made me smile.
Love the new OP. My boyfriend and I literally yelled "YEEESSS" at the same time when Buccaneer and Miles popped up. XD We then proceed to replay the Olivier/Briggs part of the OP about ten times before continuing on with the episode. Needless to say, I am excited.
Lol at the spoiler with the Homunculi in the beginning. Yeah, I know he's getting turned like next episode, but still a spoiler. :X
 
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