I cannot stand the protagonists and their dumb logic

harrysoung said:
He pretty much won all of his games due to chance.

parfaited said:
Finally somebody around these parts who sees the light.

Takuan_Soho said:

The talent of "blank" is not to know how things are going to turn out, but to adapt faster than their proponents. Kurumi says the chess players have will, Sora turns it into a morale battle.

Jibiriru thinks she is all powerful, Sora releases the ultimate physical force on her tail, literally.

The warbeasts think they can program a game to their advantage, Shiro out thinks their program.

Jibiriru, being the dumbest of their opponents was the one that went, from start to finish according to plan (why do I call Jibiriru the "dumbest", because she never thought about her opponent and instead played a perfectly predictable game), but the other ones were not outside the realm of adaptation.

harrysoung said:
Yes, and what happened after he turned it into a moral battle?

harrysoung said:
Jibril is hot and has big tits. So does Steph.

harrysoung said:
Maybe its his smug ass face who reminds me of a friend I dont like, or maybe its his voice actor.

DrGeroCreation said:
That's the thing I really hate about him as well, it's like he does that to rub it in the viewer's face that he is a Gary Stu.

Forgetfulness said:
^ +1

Well, Takuan_Soho already proved that most of the games more-or-less made sense but I still cannot overlook the part where they're basically omniscient: either they learned how to do something a bajillion years ago or they can figure it out on the spot. Doesn't exactly make the games that exciting, for me at least

DrGeroCreation said:
To me it's like the guy is a mind reader. I really don't understand how he could of known

NeoAnkara said:
What do you mean?

DrGeroCreation said:
The face off in the last episode after the

NeoAnkara said:
I know that but what do you mean about attack? There are no such action being made.

DrGeroCreation said:
IIRC she transformed like Izuna and was going to attack him.

Forgetfulness said:
Are you talking about when Miko activates Blood Destruction in order to heighten her senses? Because that was to allow her to correctly predict the coin, not to attack anyone

Forgetfulness said:
Well, that much is true at least

inb4 "there's a way to perfectly toss a coin so that you can control the landing"

DawnJ said:
discussion
ranting
cannot compute

DrGeroCreation said:
Oh my bad, that makes it even worst that he could predict the outcome better than her.

TheConquerer said:
I'm just wondering how two couch potatoes like the protagonists have such genius level intellect even if they read alot of ebooks.

Miraclezify said:


I applaud your great efforts to create discussion buddy!

Though seriously, I don't see what's wrong with someone ranting in a discussion forum. Rants can create easy discussion, all you need to do is argue against the points he makes.

I guess I agree with most of the rant, but I'd rather not waste more time talking about such a bad show anyway.

dragonshade said:
People love shitty animes nowadays. Say SAO and this. 8.83 .... no way....

Sv3rr3 said:
The main reason I dropped this show is because of Sora. That flawless intellect of his removed any form of tension, and that super smug attitude combined with Matsuoka's nasally voice proved to be more than I could handle.

Forgetfulness said:
It is implied that Shiro and Sora do not have the physical capabilities to do the coin game. Miko had to activate Blood Destruction in order to even predict how the coin would land, which is far beyond humanity's physical capabilities. Yet somehow Sora is able to toss a coin perfectly so that it will reach vertical when it hits the ground.
I find it hard to believe that anybody could actually do that

LemanRuss said:
You are not allowed to bash NGNL, it is the gospel here on MAL.

antonn said:
Some people just can't accept that NGNL is the greatest show they'll ever see in their lives.

Sv3rr3 said:
The main reason I dropped this show is because of Sora. That flawless intellect of his removed any form of tension, and that super smug attitude combined with Matsuoka's nasally voice proved to be more than I could handle.

XerxesWrath said:
Yeah, this is really bs. I hate how he acts as if everything was certain, but it's all really just pure chance.

All the battles in the anime are pretty much:
"How could you win that?"
"Calculated, bro"
"But isn't that just pure chance?"
"I calculated it all"

Let's recap:
1. Rock - Paper - Scissor: pure chance.
2. Chess game: dumb logic. No, there is not even a slight bit of logic.
3. Libril's game: again, pure chance.
4. Card game: pure chance.
5. Final game: dumb logic. How the hell could they figure out the AI of the game that they never knew beforehand? How could they apply a spell that make the fanservice-device-useless girl follow the formulas written on the ground without even knowing what kind of game they're going to play?

Forgetfulness said:
The fuck?
Do you know anybody that can flip a coin so that it perfectly hits vertical as it touches the ground on command? I'm almost certain that you do not

Neither has it been shown that Sora can do it. You can excuse the NPC algorithms and a ton of other shit as "foreshadowed" (even though it's not really) just because they are good at math, but this is something complete different that Sora was never shown to be able to do and should not be able to do

Takuan_Soho said:


There has been several people who had reasonable complaints (and when I say reasonable I only mean that the question they posed could be answered), but every one of those complaints could be answered from the information provided by the show.

David2skills said:


1. I guess u don't understand that knowledge and the rules before even starting a game has a meaning for the outcome as stated by Sora in episode 2, where he explains, why Steph didn't win the rock/paper/scissors.

2. It wasn't suppose to be normal chess and it made perfect sense. Morale battles, heard of it?

3. The knowledge of knowing ur opponent (Jibril) is also important to get the outcome of what u want.

4. I guess u mean the poker from episode 1? They didn't tell how Sora cheated. But the point of this was for the main characters to adapt themselves in this world with the 10 pledges (8. pledge is: Being caught during a game is grounds for an instant loss.

5. I guess u mean the AI of the NPCs? I think it was because Shiro and Sora noticed, that the NPC are following some kind of pattern. True it wasn't shown, what kind of spell they used on Steph. I'm not sure how i will answer for that.

fst said:


Nobody's watching it for the tension.

Sv3rr3 said:


So I guess all that's left is blatant fan service and unfunny comedy. Why is this considered a masterpiece again?

Sv3rr3 said:


So I guess all that's left is blatant fan service and unfunny comedy. Why is this considered a masterpiece again?