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| KOU, I just can't stand Touma. Kou seems more real. I think Touma being a "prefect guy" is just a facade, which might be the reason of his insecurities. Also, I no longer see Touma looking to win the affection of Futaba, but rather looking to beat Kou, and to prove he is better than Kou, while Kou couldn't care less about Touma and is actually trying to get Futaba back (Although, if Kou would do it faster would be nice). Also, IMO In all the confrontations Touma started and lost against Kou, he has even proven he is not a better person than Kou. |
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| Touma started out fine but then he got so...aggressive and ignored reality that she wasn't ready but he basically forced her. He always seems to be pushing her, like when he surprise kissed her. Like what was said above it seems like he basically did it because he wanted to keep her away from Kou more then he wanted her. I have no doubt that he had some feelings for her but he went like right into overdrive it seems like. He barely knew her or even talked to her but then he saw her and Kou and that situation (from his outsider point of view) and he became annoying. |
wtfitsmegaman said: Kou for me cuz Touma does only care about his own feelings while Kou wants Futuba to be happy.I kinda have a weakness for the guys with altruistic love! This can explain everything. Actually, I don't mind if there would be a spin-off where Futaba would end up with Touma in the end but stiill, I'll end up rooting for the mature guy who can wait and even accept the decision of the one he likes a.k.a KOU :)) |
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Midorilla said: But I am afraid the story will end with Touma and Futaba being together, since so much has been compromised already, and to go back to Kou Futaba's character should really become even more selfish. So, despite I am hoping for Kou to win, I think he will not :( Also, a K+F ending would be too similar to Strobe Edge's plot, and I don't think Sakisaka will repeat herself. What do you think? Please convince me I am wrong!!! I guess a Touma ending is possible, however I see it very unlikely the way this manga has been going. I don't really agree with so much has been already compromise, so far the only thing Futaba has done for Touma is agreeing to go out with him after his continuous attempts. I would actually think it would be more selfish if she continues to try dating him even thought she is not feeling anything, as well as I think it is pretty selfish of Touma to keep trying when he even admitted he force her a little and knows that she is not feeling anything, and would be even worse if he has known all along that Kou has feelings for her and no one else. I don't really think Futaba is that selfish for what she is doing. I just can't blame her for dating Touma. If Touma gets heartbroken, that is his own fault. He used the situation and even admitted, and what would anybody expect of a heartbroken high school girl, who is being pressure not only by Touma, but in a way as well by her friends to date him. IMO I would even say that precisely cause neither Kou and Futaba were selfish they are not together now. If Kou wouldn't have care about Narumi this may have not have happened, and the same with Futaba, if she would have just care about her own happiness she wouldn't be trying so hard to make Touma happy ( Kind of weird, considering Touma was the one supposed to make her happy and forget all about Kou). I really don't think Ao haru Ride is that similar to strobe edge. I don't even think the main characters match. Mainly, IMO I think it would be an insult to compare Ando with Touma. Ando was by far a better guy than Touma, and the same with other characters except for Ren. Kou is better than Ren and I don't know if it is just me, but I have more of an Ando vibe from Kou. Finally, let's supposed that Futaba will end up with Touma, I would think the author might want to get Kou out the picture already and try to get some chapters where Futuba starts developing feelings for Touma because so far she hasn't and it would be pretty lame if she ends up with Touma, just like that without any backstory. The more I think about it, the more difficult I think it is to have an ending where Futaba does not end up with Kou. |
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| I'm actually torn. I like Touma, he's a nice kid and I feel bad for him. We all know it's going to end with Kou though so I won't get too attached to Touma, but I feel really bad for him. In the end this whole mess IS Kou's fault for being an idiot. |
| Kou, I don't think it's right for Touma to love Futaba even he knows kou is still in her heart. |
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| "Prefer" as in with Yoshioka in a relationship or as an individual character? Edit: marycosplay said: I don't think it's right for Touma to love Futaba even he knows kou is still in her heart. O_O |
| Kou all the way! |
wtfitsmegaman said: sakura-chii said: Omg who is going to like some one selfish like Touma i just hate him so much, And kou he doesn't tell futaba that he dont love her so he still can tel her that he love her , And i think the mangaka wnats to end the manga with futaba and touma together!!!!!!!! where does that assumption come from? ^ Well, I also think the mangaka wants Touma to win at the end. Why? well, 1- I got a bad feeling about how Touma and Futaba met each other, sure Kou and Futaba have some history together.....but IMO usually the guy that wins is the one who met the girl by accident or situations similar like the one Touma and Futaba met. 2- Guy who wins is usually the one who is more immature and foolish, Kou used to be, now pretty much since Futaba and Touma started dating he is the only character in the whole series who has mature, while Touma on the other hand just keep getting worse. In few words the most desperate one usually wins. 3- Guy that looses is the one that is able to accept the girls feelings and step aside. Kou has repeatedly been saying that the decision will be only Futaba's for quite a while. 4- IMO it seems like the mangaka has been purposely making Kou and Futaba relationship to take a different route, and most likely Kou will get friendzoned towards the end. I would say that maybe Murao's and Kominato's talk on previous chapter could have been also a hint, but can't really believe what the characters say anymore, since Futaba changed her "the first person I saw was Touma" to "the first person I really saw was Kou" on chp 42....... |
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| Goooooooooooooo Toumaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :D |
| Everywhere I look, it always ends up being an anti-Touma thread =.=" Honestly, at this point, I wouldn't mind either way. If Kou gets Futaba, yay. If Touma gets Futaba, equally yay :| Both Kou and Touma have their faults, so I won't pick sides. If Kou hadn't waited so long, and if Touma hadn't pushed so hard, this manga would've ended by now. But, to be honest, I can see Futaba ending up with Kou. It feels pretty obvious/predictable. Dunno, somehow it feels more like Futaba is obligated to being in love with Touma. There's nothing so far that has made me think, "Wow. She really loves this boy", besides the whole chasing the thief thing. She doesn't get all flustered over the way Touma smells or the way the "moonlight glitters in his eyelashes" :| It makes me sad to think that Touma's probably gonna end up getting his heart smashed to pieces, I don't think he deserves it, but he knew what he was getting into. Kou has also started to take things really seriously; pretty soon I think Futaba will have to choose. For who ever's luck strikes out, I will blast Adele's "Someone Like You" and personally shed a few tears for them ;-; I'll root for Kou and Touma :) Futaba's such a lucky cake :| |
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| I liked Touma at first but his aggressiveness and his insecurities makes me less likely to get Futaba on his side, even if they are "currently" dating...it doesn't seem like it as she is very much still concerned with Kou. Furthermore, Touma's friend calling her a bitch....I wonder what will happen to that friend if either Touma or Kou found out. Anyways, Kou will most likely end up with Futaba in the end. |
| Who I prefer? Kou. Who Futaba prefers? Touma, at this point I don't really believe she deserves Kou. I'm pissed >:I |
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JCDRANZER said: Furthermore, Touma's friend calling her a bitch....I wonder what will happen to that friend if either Touma or Kou found out. That's a good question. That would be interesting, and maybe funny.... I don't think Kou has any right to do anything to him, since basically is his fault for going after the girl of his friend. What can he do?.... tell him: "hey you are wrong, I am the one who is trying to steal your friend's girlfriend" LOL. But Touma on the other hand what can he say: "hey you are wrong, it was me who was a bit pushy and started dating her being aware of her feelings for Kou" LOL as well..... I don't really think that either Kou and Touma have any real good reason to do anything to that guy. They can tell him something to clear any misunderstanding he has of the situation, but nothing more than that since it is basically their fault that he end up calling Futaba that. Well maybe Touma might end up fighting him cause he is the perfect guy trying to defend his girlfriend, but them what about the group, hey no group, no singing his song on Christmas. |
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| Just one thing I can't understand... Touma fans like him because he is cute or because they like that he pretends to be good or just have wrong impression of him? Because I just always find comments how cute, honest and nice he is, but nobody said "I like Touma and I like pretends to be good for Futaba" I just re-readed some old chapters and Touma was kinda always like this... When he start to like Futaba, he doesn't mind eavesdropping on her private conversations or saying something, but this "but true I wanted asked about that, but I don't want her to noticed I eavesdropping her talk with friend" or he was this one who tried start fight with Kou. He is this one who said that he doesn't care this isn't wrong to make a move on girl who is just heartbroken and there is lot of things like that... So I have feelings like some Touma fangirls read manga like this: Blalalala... But your are amazing Yoshioka-san... blalalabla... nevermind. Sakisaka-san said that she likes Touma's cunning... but there are still people who think "Touma is cute and nice guy" Just I don't get it... Is like they can see only bad things about Kou, but they don't think about his past and about good part in his character, but they can't see bad things about Touma. Just like there read only 5% of story and rest ignore. Is like somebody could said "Oh! I like Tanaka-sensei, he is so mature, cool and serious" ignoring that other part of his character as "big brother", his fashion style... I have some favorite villains, so I can understand somebody can like if character is manipulative or treat some people as pawns, and life is just game for them, because there are more interesting than good characters. Just I have feeling like people ignore Touma's bad behavior and see him only as good and nice guy. And I want know... They like Touma with all his bad behavior or they like him and don't see that bad part of him? |
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| ^You just basically described the same thing that goes on in HnR, except the bad behavior i.e. I thank thee. |
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| I dislike both of them. But i need to choose Kou, even if i got to hate him, he is still million times better than Touma, his backstory was really hard while this fag stalker made his piercing cause his ex told him he was too much of a good guy or something, like, dude, GROW A PAIR. |
| Kou! The reason is because... Not only am I a sucker for childhood relationships and having a cute back story like they do, but I think I choose Kou simply because he's the main character and the plot and how the story is portrayed all aims to make us sympathize with Kou and like him. Realistically speaking if I were Futaba's friend and this were real life, and I had to support Touma or Kou I'd probably choose Touma (even though reading the manga has made me extremely frustrated with his presence in Futaba's life). But since this is not real life and I am not Futaba's friend, I definitely choose Kou. They have a lot more chemistry anyway. |
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| Can't choose. I love them both. I don't understand the hate towards Touma though, he's just too cute. I feel sorry for him. |
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| I am so confuse at people saying they don't understand why so much hate towards Touma. Do you seriously read the comments or do you just read that they hate him and skip their reason?????? Anyway, main reason people dislike him is cause he pushed her to date him knowing she was still in love with Kou, and now that she couldn't return his feelings she feels guilty/sad/depress of hurting his feelings. There is even no point arguing whether he push her to date him or not, since he recognize it himself (I guess the mangaka had to made it clear, so those who are unable to accept the true wouldn't have a choice). I understand that there might be people who do not think that is a good reason to not like him and find what he did cute, but there are people who thinks what he did was disgusting. Also, IMO every time he starts arguments against Kou with the wrong reasons, the image he gives is not that of a good guy, and that's why he always end up losing those arguments against Kou. Not really a good reason, some people think is cute and sweet, but at least for me it is also a bit disgusting when a guy has to steal kisses from and give bear hugs to a girl. BTW did he ever get a kiss that wasn't stolen????????? |
jose21Oct 15, 2014 4:26 AM
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| [quote=Face_Faith]"Prefer" as in with Yoshioka in a relationship or as an individual character? If I have to choose, I'd like to say Yoshioka as an individual character which Kou likes. |
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| Yo guys I caught up so I can formulate a more educated opinion. So if I were to pick who I preferred, Touma is the obvious choice for me. He's so honest, sweet, innocent and adorable. He's not Kou who has male shoujo lead syndrome. But Touma is so incompatible with Futaba. Every time I watch them interact, I just think, boy you are definitely better off with a girl who actually likes you. This shoujo manga is not like Hirunaka no Ryuusei where the heroine actually starts liking the second boy. Futaba only likes Kou. She matches Kou. She loves Kou. She belongs with Kou. /end of story |
| I don't understand why people think Touma is "honest, sweet, innocent and adorable" Like these part when he lied Futaba, make good face for bad game. Eh... most of fans have really biased towards Touma or ignore some moments about him or look at it "Oh, he forced her to dating, doesn't care about her feelings, but this is ok since he likes her" -.- |
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LittleStar said: I don't understand why people think Touma is "honest, sweet, innocent and adorable" Like these part when he lied Futaba, make good face for bad game. Eh... most of fans have really biased towards Touma or ignore some moments about him or look at it "Oh, he forced her to dating, doesn't care about her feelings, but this is ok since he likes her" -.- LOL did you not read my post at all? I said I preferred him as a male (again, this is an opinion so you can't make me change who I prefer) but she doesn't belong with him at all. I think that Touma being flawed/imperfect (like taking advantage of her) is being honest and straightforward which is something Kou lacks. He [Kou] even admits himself that he always ends up hurting her and isn't sure how to get her back because he makes her angry all the time. Touma did not force her into anything. Granted taking advantage of her is not the nicest thing ever, but it's more realistic than the underdog who does nothing on the sidelines. She consented to it because she believed that she had no chance with Kou if he was with the other girl. Other than forcing him unrequited feelings onto her, there's nothing else that would make him a bad person. |
| ^ They are the same. Both high school kids who have no clue as to how relationships actually work. |
Aerensianic said: ^ They are the same. Both high school kids who have no clue as to how relationships actually work. Yes, but reason why I preferred Touma as a character was that he took the initiative and wasn't as wishy-washy as Kou. (LittleStar, I'm not trying to bash Kou btw, but this is just what I think) |
| Eh he just deluded himself in the opposite way to Kou. Kou tricked himself into believing he didn't want/deserve her love while Touma convinced himself that he was a better guy and because of that he deserved the girl and she would come to see it that way. |
Aerensianic said: Eh he just deluded himself in the opposite way to Kou. Kou tricked himself into believing he didn't want/deserve her love while Touma convinced himself that he was a better guy and because of that he deserved the girl and she would come to see it that way. LOL are we reading the same manga? I didn't see Touma's point of view that pessimistically like that. See, I recently marathoned both Heroine Shikkaku and Hirunaka no Ryuusei which also had a phase in the middle where the MC dated the underdog boy and it's pretty much the same as AHR. To a certain extent, the underdog (Touma) believed that Futaba would be happier with him and I don't really see what's wrong with that. I don't think he knew the entire story so he believed that she needed to move forward. |
| I don't think Kou ever really "hurt" her. Sure he annoys her all the time but keep in mind she has always been actively pursing him in some way. Until recently, he always held her at arms length because of his own very mixed up feelings. She has always been the active party in this case, trying her best to drag him out of the darkness that he was wallowing in. In this she has some agency, too often she subverts her own wants and needs to others to try to be "normal" (See her and the "friends" and the start and later with Touma). With Kou its the only time she is actually doing something "selfish" in trying to pull Kou out (partly for his own sake but also for herself). So in a way he is the only one who places 0 expectations on her so she can be herself for once instead of having to conform to some image of normality she has in her mind. You can see it as this: In the first part of the manga it was focused on Kou overcoming his past and the marks it left on his personality (and the dumb decisions he made because of it). This second part right now is Futa finally realizing and acting on the things she has to overcome (IE getting over trying to be some ideal for others). Notice how her BFF got angry at her because she was still in *that* mode even when deciding what to do. In this we come full circle as both the main characters are moving past their own flaws and attempt to be happy together. Touma was just never developed in any significant way, which is why his character seems shallow. Sure maybe there is more there that is positive but all we got was him pressuring Futa to date him then him spending half that trying to make a girl who doesn't love him to like him while getting into immature pissing contests with the guy he is sure that he is better than. He is the stereotypical shojo alternate love interest but watered down so he isn't as easily labeled the clear "bad" guy. However this more or less makes him seem like a cross between the pushover type and the aggressive douche type. |
| Ever since I saw the Chapter with the stolen backpack, Kou didn't even try to seem a hero he was just hoping Futaba was okay. Honestly, Touma just wants to try to beat Kou when in all reality Kou is really the one that is concerned for Futaba's well being. I agree with all the previous posts about Kou > Touma ^-^ ! |
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| I prefer Touma, because he's type "2nd lead who is rejected" and always I fall in love in these characters. I like his precious smile and sweetness. By the way on the concert he reminded me of Shin from Nana (probably it's reason why I like him that much). Althought he's naive and he shouldn't be with Futaba if she didn't confess to him. In the other hand there's Kou. At the beggining his attitude in romantic moments irritating me, because he was undecided. Anyway I wish from the start that Futaba will be with him. So... I like the end, but it'll be better if Touma end up with me. |
RaeHoonNov 7, 2015 3:15 AM
Smooched said: The first guy is always THE guy. Trust. hahahah so true |
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