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Jul 5, 2014 1:02 PM

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TaisakuSentou said:
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Tomino actually came out of the post war Japan period so was writing a lot from personal experience and stories he heard from friends and relatives. It's what sort of gave it that visceral human touch and he wanted to tackle themes of war, love, loss, trauma, politics and sorrow with the franchise instead of just letting it become another toy commercial for Bandai. He has to fight for every inch of getting to tell the story and make the show he wanted to and lost just as many battles as he won initially, more wins with the movie version of the original series.

Gen Urobuchi is an interesting writer for sure, but he's from a totally different generation than Tomino with different life experiences and upbringings (guaranteed much easier life) and IMO most of his stories lack that human touch feeling and maturity (they are dark and unsettling but not necessarily mature or striving for more realism) that made Gundam such a big deal back when it first aired and had people identifying so strongly with characters like Amuro, Char, Bright, Sayla, Lalah and all those other memorable supporting cast characters. He's not a total sellout or anything but he's also clearly more comfortable and content to just do the bidding of the people that sign his paychecks and cave to their demands compared to Tomino and this shows promotion gives off this sort of "Fuck Gundam! Yeah we're going to stick it to that franchise and do it better than it ever could" commercial feel to it as opposed to trying to tackle the issues that Tomino wanted to tackle with Gundam and to buck the trends of the time entirely. Really no other series had attempted to do what the original Gundam did at the time or to have that level of maturity and complexity to it's storyline since they were all mostly just formulaic super robot shows. It was so different at first people weren't even really sure that they liked it but it quickly became apparent that it had done something no other original anime TV series had done up to that point.

Completely agree, but since the newer generations come by, the need for a truly 'mature' anime isn't really there. Things, like a lot of death and some characters having a few screws loose, seems to be enough for them. All in all, shows like this will sell well because of how relatable it is to the majority of all the viewers. I just don't like how most shows aren't taking that sort of risk to be completely different than what the industry gives, just to cause another revolution of new standards for all anime.


Speaking of sales, besides BDs, how are they going to ensure that this anime is successful, being a mecha anime this should had model kits or figures in the works by now at the very least, granted I seen nothing from Sidonia or Captain Earth yet so maybe that type of merchandising strategy is an outdated concept and reliance on BDs almost exclusively if not exclusively is the standard for late night mecha as well.


 
Jul 5, 2014 1:08 PM
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This was awesome and the music gave me the chills.... <33 I'm glad I got hyped for this.
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:08 PM

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The hype!!!
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:08 PM

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Interesting world and story and omg the soundtrack is godlike... it looks really good so far
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:15 PM

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Epic episode NO got fucked up after the 4th of July. Dat soundtrack was sugoi especially the song at the end.
 
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Hoppy said:
TaisakuSentou said:

Completely agree, but since the newer generations come by, the need for a truly 'mature' anime isn't really there. Things, like a lot of death and some characters having a few screws loose, seems to be enough for them. All in all, shows like this will sell well because of how relatable it is to the majority of all the viewers. I just don't like how most shows aren't taking that sort of risk to be completely different than what the industry gives, just to cause another revolution of new standards for all anime.


Speaking of sales, besides BDs, how are they going to ensure that this anime is successful, being a mecha anime this should had model kits or figures in the works by now at the very least, granted I seen nothing from Sidonia or Captain Earth yet so maybe that type of merchandising strategy is an outdated concept and reliance on BDs almost exclusively if not exclusively is the standard for late night mecha as well.


If they want model kits they'll probably have to go through their direct competitor Bandai which would be kind of ironic since they basically started the promotion of this series by saying they wanted it to compete with Gundam. I don't think there's going to be though, maybe we'll get some figurines, but this show doesn't exactly seem aimed at the model kit building crowd with it's CGI designs at least initially. This seems more aimed at the Attack on Titan big epic visuals and blaring soundtrack HYPE HYPE crowd and the thing is while Gundam could have the big bombastic scenes that keep people at the edge of their seats just fine it could also have scenes like this. I'm wondering if the people behind this show have the ability or even the desire and time to fit in any sort of scenes like that one in what is probably going to be a mad rush to maintain maximum levels of hype at all times.
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Jul 5, 2014 1:21 PM

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Loved it. The OST at the end when all the castles were landing and the cities were being annihilated was epic!

It's so obvious who is responsible for the music XD

Liking the mecha designs and the setting. The animation is nice and The Maritan's look BA!!

Stupid terrorists -.- What the hell did they do that for <_<

I don't know if I should face palm or LMAO at the MC (Inaho?)..."Let's get out of here, there are missile's coming" in monotone XD
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:23 PM

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Nice episode. She isn't dead, of course.
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:24 PM

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First episode great and all, but why the hell more mecha? Getting sick of BIG "COOL" ROBOTS!

They could invest this huge amount of money they are using on this series for something else. But oh well, every japanese kid dreams of riding a BIG "COOL" ROBOT! -.-

 
Jul 5, 2014 1:25 PM

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I'm really excited for this it seems interesting . I just hope this doesn't get rushed out.
Overall: 4/5 for this episode.
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:27 PM

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Seeing all these people being dematerialized in the end was quite shocking. Gen's writing gave me a "Barefoot Gen" feeling.

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As far as the princess is concerned:


I had the same thought. Maybe that charm Slaine gave her, protected her.
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:28 PM
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Did not expect a single thing this anime just through out at me...what the...
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:29 PM
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I'm really excited for this it seems interesting . I just hope this doesn't get rushed out.
Overall: 4/5 for this episode.

can't see it being rushed since it will have 24 episodes and is original anime and not an adaption.
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:30 PM
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I actually enjoyed this first episode quite a bit. Definitely a Gundam clone, down to the space royalty and dropping of large planetary scale objects on unsupecting cities, but with pretty decent production values. I don't rate Urobuchi as much as other people here, but I reckon he can make a pretty good story out of this. I hope that what seems to be the young MC doesn't end up being some all knowing OP characters.
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Jul 5, 2014 1:32 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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Speaking of sales, besides BDs, how are they going to ensure that this anime is successful, being a mecha anime this should had model kits or figures in the works by now at the very least, granted I seen nothing from Sidonia or Captain Earth yet so maybe that type of merchandising strategy is an outdated concept and reliance on BDs almost exclusively if not exclusively is the standard for late night mecha as well.


If they want model kits they'll probably have to go through their direct competitor Bandai which would be kind of ironic since they basically started the promotion of this series by saying they wanted it to compete with Gundam. I don't think there's going to be though, maybe we'll get some figurines, but this show doesn't exactly seem aimed at the model kit building crowd with it's CGI designs at least initially. This seems more aimed at the Attack on Titan big epic visuals and blaring soundtrack HYPE HYPE crowd and the thing is while Gundam could have the big bombastic scenes that keep people at the edge of their seats just fine it could also have scenes like this. I'm wondering if the people behind this show have the ability or even the desire and time to fit in any sort of scenes like that one in what is probably going to be a mad rush to maintain maximum levels of hype at all times.


It doesn't seem like something that can pull in the premium merchandise but other mecha such as Rinne no Lagrange got figures of each of Vox units and the characters, so the chance is there albeit a much lower chance. I also highly doubt that Aldnoah.Zero will have many meaningful encounter or love scenes, and since this is a Urobuchi series, I might as well have some doubt on many crowning moments of heartwarmth either. The series just seems designed more for fans want as much action out of this every episode or almost every episode as possible.


 
Jul 5, 2014 1:34 PM

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damn
i expect that princess will die someday
but not in eps 1 though..

what the....
i wonder what kind of plot twist in the next eps
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:34 PM

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New Orleans got rekt, fast.
Those OSTs though.

Really good animation.
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Jul 5, 2014 1:36 PM

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Best start this season yet.
The story definitely got huge potential. Though using children as protagonists wasn't the best choice for this kinda story, as long as they can execute the story well I'll gladly overlook it.

Also, since we didn't get to see the princess' face when the attack happened it was most certainly a double.
In the first place, the "terrorists" were probably Martians (or however they are called in this story), so as to finally start war up again.

Edit: And the soundtrack is epic
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Jul 5, 2014 1:36 PM

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Fairly predictable but godly in execution so far. Amazing OST, clean and colorful visuals and an interesting world.

My favorite this season so far.
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:45 PM

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Was a decent first episode doesn't seem to be following the typical modern day mecha tropes of a random high school kid suddenly becoming a skilled mech pilot, hell correct me if im wrong but I don't think I have seen any sort of overpowered mech for the mc in any of the promotional stuff so I wonder how they will combat this coming threat.
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:49 PM

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Very very predictable. But considering Urobutcher gen , this might go down to as anime of the season.
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:51 PM

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Very interesting anime. Good studio and good stuff can make something unusual. In this episode soundtrack was really amazing!

I can't wait for next episode!

For this ep 5/5
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:55 PM

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NaughtyNoddy said:
Seeing all these people being dematerialized in the end was quite shocking. Gen's writing gave me a "Barefoot Gen" feeling.

CaptainKatsuura said:
As far as the princess is concerned:


I had the same thought. Maybe that charm Slaine gave her, protected her.


Although this is Urobutcher we're talking about so she might be... but she also might not be :-P
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:55 PM
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I heard this was made by the same guy that made Madoka so I'll be waiting for a plot twist.
 
Jul 5, 2014 1:56 PM

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The first half of the episode was really bad. It was poorly explained as to what was going on, and subsequently fairly difficult to follow. The second half of the episode was better, I think I'll wait for the next episode till I make my decision about continuing watching it. Though the second half did show immense potential, there's still a chance for it to fall flat on its face because the plot does seem rather thin.

 
Jul 5, 2014 1:57 PM

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That wasnt bad at all. Hopefully the Princess somehow survived all of that since it seems our MC is just too uninterested to fight those Knights.

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Jul 5, 2014 2:01 PM

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Good episode. Likely Princess is alive and is going to give Earth that ancient tech to fight with.
 
Jul 5, 2014 2:04 PM

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I predicted about 80% of this episode so far and the MC lol,an incoming missile and he looked so bored....
Still New Orleans destruction was the best scene...

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Jul 5, 2014 2:08 PM

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Amazing first episode.Was ''a little bit'' generic, but i still loved it - amazing OST (sasuga SawaHiro) and animation + arstyle, interesting characters so far and great choice of seiyuus.Seems like it's going to be a great ride.
 
Jul 5, 2014 2:10 PM

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omgsh, loved it!

didn't had any expectation for this but it was awesome!

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Jul 5, 2014 2:10 PM

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Those people burned to crisp due to the shockwave.... that was brutal... too brutal for my heart.

That's a promising start!
 
Jul 5, 2014 2:14 PM

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Best 1st episode of this season so far.
I enjoyed this episode quite a lot. Soundtrack was nice and so was animation.
I was kind of surprised by how fast the pace was,but that might not be necessarily for worse.
Also,I get the feeling that the Princess was sacrificed to give a reason for attack,similiar to Sarajevo incident which resulted in start of the first world war.
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Jul 5, 2014 2:15 PM

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The fact that the Princess's face wasn't shown at all from when the car appeared makes me think that it wasn't her. Maybe they had a decoy or something to see if there was any hostility or dangers present. Who knows.

Good first episode though. The soundtrack that kicked in towards the end was pretty epic too.
 
Jul 5, 2014 2:15 PM
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Wow I liked it. I wasn't even expecting anything because I'm no mecha fan, and only wanted to watch this because of Sawano (I didn't even really care about the other big names, nor some of my favorite VAs). But what can I say, it was better than I expected. I like how we don't see any real mecha action in the first episode, which is quite refreshing from all the other ones I've seen with the MC being able to pilot a new mech skillfully (or not skillfully like Shirogane no Ishi lol). Even the opening scene was quite nice because it didn't rely on anything spectacular. I liked Hanae Natsuki's "my pace" type of character, or more like he seems pretty apathetic atm. He's just like, hey guys we should leave because there's a missile coming. There's also a lot of history and politics going on too already. Also liking Kalafina's song at the end. Let's see where this goes since it's only 12 episodes.
 
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Second anime doing reference to my country. I don't remember the first one.
But this time Urobutcher went too far, he bombed my land. WTF
 
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AMERICA GOT REKT AFTER INDEPENDENCE DAY


Lol, I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that. The firestorm scene or whatever it was looked like it from the movie too.


Wow, this wont be another Gargantia, all right. Pretty fast start. But me being careful now, went with just 7/10 and high hopes :D
 
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That was a great episode! As expected the OST is great and always add more emotions into what's happening. 5/5. Sad to see how the little kids were wishing for peace all around the world when at that exact moment a whole city was being blown up with millions of people dying. :(
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kinda generic.
Death of the princess...
saw that coming from the very first minute.
Character seem kinda generic as well but it is still early.

Awesome soundtrack though.
Yuki Kajiura all the way.

Even if this turns out to be shit i will atleast listen to it xD
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The first half of the episode was really bad. It was poorly explained as to what was going on, and subsequently fairly difficult to follow.


No. Just no.
It was very easy to follow.
 
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It was pretty cool I suppose. Had a nice soundtrack. Pretty obvious that the Mars clan set the whole thing up just to take Earth. That's how I see it anyway.
 
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It was pretty cool I suppose. Had a nice soundtrack. Pretty obvious that the Mars clan set the whole thing up just to take Earth. That's how I see it anyway.


Doesn't really make sense does it? What reason would they need to set this up?
 
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DarkDooM2 said:
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The first half of the episode was really bad. It was poorly explained as to what was going on, and subsequently fairly difficult to follow.


No. Just no.
It was very easy to follow.


Basic explanation of conflict was given pretty blatantly and most likely,gory details and different viewpoints of war will follow .
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valvrave the liberator third season

Don't even say that...
Valvrave was bad(horrible even) it was the combination of twilight and highschool musical but Aldnoah was pretty good, it was the best first episode of the season so far and it was promising
 
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Well,as others have stated,this is an obvious Gundam copy so far.I just wonder what will feature(s) of the show will give it it's own identity.Valvrave had the space vampire & high school country gimmick.Will this have robot ghost pirates & a moe queen?

Jokes aside,it was a good start & I'm curious as to where this will go.Sure,I became interested in this solely because of the staff (let's face it,that's how it was with most people).I just hope it won't end up being crap,having an all star staff doesn't protect it from that possibility.
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skudoops said:
Clockwork_Pinkie said:
It was pretty cool I suppose. Had a nice soundtrack. Pretty obvious that the Mars clan set the whole thing up just to take Earth. That's how I see it anyway.


Doesn't really make sense does it? What reason would they need to set this up?

To finally have a reason to start a war, maybe?
lol. The hinted pretty hard that the mars was just waiting for it.

I liked the execution of the assassination though.
Not just a sniper or a bomb but a well planned through plan.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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That... was a really bitter read.

Decent opener, I agree that they really pulled the production values up a notch to wow the audience and get everyone strapped in. It's a 12 episode series so it's expected when you consider the apparent scale of the war, a major catalyst in the first episode was needed. Pretty sure most people were expecting it so they tried to outdo their expectations for the visuals and introduce everyone to the OST.

Not sure why you're complaining about hyping/advertising, seen as how you subject yourself to it. It's not forced upon you. As far as I'm concerned the hype for Aldnoah pales in comparison to the other season mammoths *looking at you SAO2/Akame ga Kill* Both of which barely even need to try hard to generate attention, they both have source materials with massive fanbases. Aldnoah doesn't. I'd like to think you can forgive Aldnoah for flaunting its staff names when you look at what they're competing with in the season.

E; One thing that irked me was Inaho's reactions, guess I'm just sick to death of stoic characters.
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My favorite first episode so far this season, looking forward to much more
 
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skudoops said:
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It was pretty cool I suppose. Had a nice soundtrack. Pretty obvious that the Mars clan set the whole thing up just to take Earth. That's how I see it anyway.


Doesn't really make sense does it? What reason would they need to set this up?


They were secure just in case that they lost,I'd say,because they were not the agressors,at least,seemingly.
It is quite similiar to Sarajevo assassination,which I mentioned in post above,in which Franz Ferdinand was killed and that was official reason for starting war,even though entire Europe was pretty much poised to jump on each other's throat.
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skudoops said:
Clockwork_Pinkie said:
It was pretty cool I suppose. Had a nice soundtrack. Pretty obvious that the Mars clan set the whole thing up just to take Earth. That's how I see it anyway.


Doesn't really make sense does it? What reason would they need to set this up?

To have the moral high ground?
 
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DejWoSWK said:
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No. Just no.
It was very easy to follow.


Basic explanation of conflict was given pretty blatantly and most likely,gory details and different viewpoints of war will follow .


Well, I had to pause a lot to read the double lines in time, but had no problem understanding the background.
We have to start a poll about how many of the supports will last untill the end :D
 
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