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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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"Why are people still living if we'll all die anyway?"
So this series starts with such a premise...

That Moto girl has quite a freakish approach to cleanliness xD

Anyway, the plot here felt like a mess. The "people suddendly vanishing" plot device has been used way too many times, but then the main character (of this episode, at least) sees an apparition of an old crush of hers, a guy that supposedly vanished, sort of leading me to think about the occult.
Then it was just a spirit, or ghost, or whatever, taking the form of said guy... then some weirdo shows up and kills it. Then the girl miraculously changes her vision on life and ends the episode with a "I still don't like myself, but I'm still alive."

After this first episode, I don't really know what to expect. Overall, this was not a good episode. Despite being painfully slow, it failed to show me what the show is about. It just seemed like wasted time. And if the whole seires is about people "offering" their souls and the weirdo (Boogiepop?) saving them, it will still feel like wasted time. I'm also a little bothered with the weak artwork and the exageratedly pale coloring (which somehow reminds me of Lain), but I'll see how this plays out.
 
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Mar 25, 2010 4:04 PM

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How can Mamiko Noto be so depressed? She has like the perfect voice; everyone should love her! I'm glad the person who I think may be Boogiepop (didn't look at characters yet) saved her though. <3
 
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Apr 25, 2010 3:46 PM

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i think it should be pretty boring anime, BUT
i love the sounds!! especially background electronic one.
 
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I feel like I'm watching Serial Experiments Lain again.



And that is a good thing.
 
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Oct 2, 2010 11:01 PM
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Arcanus said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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"Why are people still living if we'll all die anyway?"
So this series starts with such a premise...

That Moto girl has quite a freakish approach to cleanliness xD

Anyway, the plot here felt like a mess. The "people suddenly vanishing" plot device has been used way too many times, but then the main character (of this episode, at least) sees an apparition of an old crush of hers, a guy that supposedly vanished, sort of leading me to think about the occult.
Then it was just a spirit, or ghost, or whatever, taking the form of said guy... then some weirdo shows up and kills it. Then the girl miraculously changes her vision on life and ends the episode with a "I still don't like myself, but I'm still alive."

After this first episode, I don't really know what to expect. Overall, this was not a good episode. Despite being painfully slow, it failed to show me what the show is about. It just seemed like wasted time. And if the whole seires is about people "offering" their souls and the weirdo (Boogiepop?) saving them, it will still feel like wasted time. I'm also a little bothered with the weak artwork and the exageratedly pale coloring (which somehow reminds me of Lain), but I'll see how this plays out.


I tried to start this show a while back, got two episodes in, and got distracted by shiny things. I vowed to finish it this time around. So here's what I got from the episode after my second viewing:

In one of the opening scenes, there are some girls standing around talking about the 'mysterious light' and the resulting disappearances, and then they move on to talk about what they think happened- Boogiepop, the 'grim reaper', killed the disappeared ones.
Much later on, our self-loathing protagonist works up the courage to go and find her loved one, Saotome, and tracks him down, only for it to turn out to be a monster of some kind. Realizing that her chase was hopeless from the start and that she just confessed to an abomination, she gives up on life completely, allowing it to devour her and end her miserable existence...
Except, that's not what happens. In a flash, a blade kills it, and Boogiepop tells her to stop being a whiny little brat. Oh. And he/she killed Saotome.
Boogiepop outright confesses to having killed him, in probably the most nonchalant manner he/she could muster, and then walks away. Because they're just that badass.
Realizing that if he/she wanted to, Boogiepop could have easily killed her as well, and that she doesn't actually want to die, she just thought she did, the protagonist picks herself up, brushing off her scrape with death itself and nowhere near as suicidal as before. She still dislikes herself, but at least she doesn't think it wouldn't matter if she were alive or dead, anymore. She prefers life.

...At least, that's what I got. YMMV. Yeah, there's a lot of cliche, but it's put together in a way that I don't really care. Show's interesting. :)
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Oct 6, 2010 12:28 PM

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planeterian said:
I feel like I'm watching Serial Experiments Lain again.



And that is a good thing.


I agree completely, it reminds me of Lain in so many ways. And because Serial Experiments Lain is my most favorite anime, I really enjoyed this episode. I hope it will continue in the same style (which is perfect in my opinion).

Story? Its too early to judge, but atmosphere and thoughts of Moto... It was excellent.
 
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Nov 27, 2010 10:34 AM
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creepy good psycho semi-shut-in, lainy as can be, love the art style. shows real promise I hope I remain confuzzled till the last drop, drops. I like this show right where it is and hope it goes nowhere. moss grows on all my favorite things
 
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Dec 16, 2010 7:46 PM

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I'm feeling some lain undertones. Interesting.. onto episode 2!
 
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May 27, 2011 4:21 PM
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planeterian said:
I feel like I'm watching Serial Experiments Lain again.


And that is a good thing.


LOL same here.
but Lain looks like she's hiding something, while Moto just looks really dumb. i mean, come on, "oh, wait a minute, the guy i liked never had blue arms in his mouth! you must be someone else!"
 
Jul 7, 2011 10:25 PM

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Well, this is my second time trying to watch this show. I originally dropped it about 5 years ago... although I never finished, one thing I've always liked is the ending :D but anyway, nice episode.
 
Aug 3, 2011 12:25 AM
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Word of advice: This show expects you to go into it having read the Boogiepop at Dawn and Boogiepop and Others light novels. If you haven't, this show won't make any damn sense, as it's meant to be a continuation of those two.

Some explanations (spoilers for Boogiepop and Others):

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Aug 29, 2012 1:19 PM

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Creepy as hell, and i guess i'm not the only one who got a SEL vibe from it lol.

It did seem to drag on and not really accomplish anything, but it's only the first episode.
 
Sep 12, 2012 7:00 AM

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A really nice first episode: good introspective sepia colors, breakcore drones here and there, an enthrallingly dark and intriguing atmosphere, I'm in!
I can foresee a possible pacing issue, but other than that, it all seemed very promising.
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Jan 5, 2013 10:26 PM

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I was recommended this show a few years back, but I'm finally getting the chance to watch it.

I enjoyed the mood the animation set for the episode, but I can't say I wholly enjoyed the episode. It reminds me of Lain which I love, so I'm approaching this not expecting everything to really feel complete until the conclusion. However, compared to Lain this episode did not match up to its level.
 
Aug 19, 2013 5:38 AM

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Arcanus said:

That Moto girl has quite a freakish approach to cleanliness xD


It's a mental disorder called OCD.

I like the atmosphere in this show.
 
Oct 31, 2013 7:40 PM

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The plot didn't really catch my interest in this episode, which would have been fine if the characters were at all likable. Doesn't help that I heard the show doesn't really improve on this later either. Poor animation that is definitely showing its age, a murky art style, and a lackluster dub don't win it any points for me.

I'm sure the sub is better, but even if it is, there's not enough here to hold my interest. People here are comparing it to Serial Experiments Lain, which I thought was OK, but I'll have to drop this. Guess I'll try Hell Girl and see where that takes me.
 
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SuperLlama said:
Word of advice: This show expects you to go into it having read the Boogiepop at Dawn and Boogiepop and Others light novels. If you haven't, this show won't make any damn sense, as it's meant to be a continuation of those two.

Some explanations (spoilers for Boogiepop and Others):



No, the Boogiepop anime whilst it was a continuation of the books is meant to be viewed as a piece on its own, the creator clearly stated in an interview that the anime was meant to be work that exists on its own, whilst having read the books might be helpful but it is not required,


Just putting it out there.
 
Dec 23, 2013 7:21 AM

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This is just confusing, why is everything in scene's? It better not be one of those anime's where you only understand it after watching more than once, the writers probably think they are being "deep".
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Jun 19, 2014 10:23 AM
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Cant believe the taste of sex turned that one girl into a cheating bitch but ill give it to her at least she admited to it.The first episode was ok if its intent was to give off a creepy mood it did work.Just wish there was more meat to it hopefully it will get better later on.
 
Jun 24, 2014 11:19 PM

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I have no idea what's going but I gotta say, that was a bit unsettling especially the screwed up SFX.
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
 
Jun 29, 2014 11:56 PM

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The SFX were really off putting, I'm assuming that was intentional. Definitely a very bland color tone to this series, It's quite unsettling.

This is one of those animes where you don't know what the hell is going on, and I like that approach to start.
 
Jul 18, 2014 8:54 AM

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this was an interesting premise. not sure if i like it or not

definitely dislike the protagonist tho
 
Oct 29, 2014 6:15 PM

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I agree with the people saying this reminds me of Serial Experiments Lain.
dat 90's SFX quality tho
 
Dec 26, 2014 11:05 AM

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my head hurts.
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Aug 20, 2015 2:17 PM

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Definitely getting some Lain vibes here. I enjoy this so far, interesting scenes.
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Aug 25, 2015 11:43 AM

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First thought: Serial Experiments Lain, haha. Didn't enjoy that one very much so let's see how I'll feel about this one.
 
Oct 31, 2015 1:58 PM

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Seems promising ,despite its vintage.

 
Mar 23, 2017 12:21 PM

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Well this sure had a quite atmosphere all over it! Interesting, but not sure if I'm up for this series tonight... I do wonder what kind of story it has to offer though, but well it does feel rather dark!

Either way let's see what's next.
 
May 29, 2017 2:35 PM

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i'll give it one more episode, so far i'm not a fan but that could be changed. it's a bit too depressing for my preference, and the old bad quality animation and muted colors aren't helping (although it does set a certain mood of the anime, which some might like)
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May 31, 2017 11:42 AM
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I know it sounds familiar.
BUT MOTO IS MAMIKO NOTO'S FIRST ROLE!!!!
 
May 31, 2017 12:08 PM
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The preview!!!! Classical music again!!!
I'm kind of nostalgic for this kind of shows. animes which have so much shadows and disturbing noises. Back in the early 2000s Japanese youth really seemed to be discontented ab life.
Madhouse used to make this kind of shows a lot. Now their shows are so colorful, which is good, but I miss shows with this much darkness, pale and white faces glowing in black alley.
Yeah, the art style is beautiful too. grainy and fits the atmosphere.
 
Jun 16, 2017 2:15 PM

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Eh, disappointing if I'm honest. I've heard it built up a whole lot in comparison to Lain, but despite its thick atmosphere, it lacks the human touch that Lain had. It just feels like a sham watching these characters, who lack any sense of humanity, like they have anything meaningful to say whatsoever. It feels forced, is what I'm trying to say, especially the writing.
 
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It's been 10 years since I first watched this. I didn't really understand it then, but I gave it 7/10 so I must have enjoyed it.

Rewatch 1, start!

It's the first episode... nobody knows what is going on yet.

It certainly is interesting/weird. Love the atmosphere. The narrow-vision effect works well with this anime.
 
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I feel like I'm watching Serial Experiments Lain again.


And that is a not good thing.
 
Nov 14, 2018 3:09 PM

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Not bad so far and as expected, they really nailed the atmosphere. Sometimes I have my days where I'm exactly digging this.
One Piece episode 914 & 915 were a mistake.

 
Jan 5, 2019 2:51 AM

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I've been wanting to watch this for a while, so I better finish before starting the 2019 version. First ep wa interesting enough for me. I liked the girl, her OCD was interesting. And the story did pull me in. What are these strange creatures or ghosts that inhabit some people's bodies after death?
I also agree that I get some Serial Experiments Lain vibes~
 
Mar 4, 2019 12:16 AM

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The colours palette, the sound direction, the fragmented narration and its paperboard, the restricted vision: incredible beginning !

5/5

I'm wondering how can people find this confusing when it's clearly cut into scenes. Of course, it draws from past book events for the context, but the story, here, is clearly the episode heroin's "life"/mentality.

 
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Ooo I really like this so far, it's so much like lain but clearly going a different direction with the story. I dont expect it to be as good but very high expectations
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I'm watching this after finishing the 2019 canon remake. And from what I found out from Wikipedia, this show takes place between the first arc and second arc of the 2019 version(Boogiepop and Others and Boogiepop Vs Imaginator). Hence why Saotome is in this.



But still, technically this is not canon to the original light novels and manga.

Anyway still I loved the 2019 show and after seeing the first episode I'm clearly very interested in this.
 
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