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Jun 24, 2014 2:55 PM

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too many tears were shed, the subs became unreadable.
Haters need to appreciate the quality this episode gave us in the end with Komugi and Meruem. 11/10
 
Jun 24, 2014 2:55 PM

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Up until the credits I was thinking, "Wow wasn't this episode weak? I really was hoping for more" and then the ending absolutely killed me.

I do not consider myself an overly emotional guy, though I definitely have had watery eyes at various points in different anime, but never like this, I still have tears running down my face as I am writing this, five minutes after watching, it's so hard to believe. And I really thought I didn't care about Meruem or Komugi

Absolutely amazed by Togashi's story and Madhouse's delivery
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Jun 24, 2014 2:59 PM
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Never thought I would cry for the death of a "bad" guy. Guess there are somethings that only a true work of art can accomplish.
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:03 PM
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What an amazing ending, manly tears were shed. Beautiful writing by Togashi. Great execution by Mad House.
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:06 PM

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Satouji said:
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Seriously, am i the only one who didn't even get sad at all of this ?


Nope, me too.

People are weird you know. Feeling sad for human eating creature because he found love ? So lets forget the people he killed or ate. LOL. Screw your romantic thoughts.

Well I'm not into romance at all and I don't really take to the whole romantic couple thing but what got to me was the fact that meruem went from an arrogant 'human eating creature' to a humble 'better than human creature'. He managed to swallow his pride for someone he truly cared about and I find that touching. He was a better ant than any human.
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:10 PM

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My word... I don't even have words... I shed a tear. The character growth my word, the character growth.. Why does it only go to 10. 12/10. Probably the best ending to a shounen arc I've ever seen.
Thank you so much MADHouse the mangaka, everyone.

I mean the antagonist, THE ANTAGONIST character growth... of this scale.. this really is something you'll probably only see once in your lifetime.
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Jun 24, 2014 3:12 PM

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THE FEELS ;__;
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:13 PM
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The episode was portrayed in a really beautiful manner. It started with Palm going through the denial Gon went through with trying to realize that the Ants aren't really as one dimensional as they're seeing them, her tears and Meruem bowing with that angle Madhouse put the picture in, + the music, made such a huge impact. Then we go a bit to the aftermath of the arc, and we go back to the gungi game with all the symbolism it contained. The black scenes from the manga were kinda well-portrayed except when they tried to throw in the frames of Meruem and Komugi, but that's just nitpicking. (the preview was kinda unncessary as well)

Overall a pretty well done episode, a couple of things that could've been done better, but the impact was sure as hell there. Good job Madhouse.
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Jun 24, 2014 3:18 PM

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Amazingly well done episode. Props to Togashi, and Madhouse for the superb a adaptation. Great ending to the arc, it was feeling kind of dull at times, specially after the fight with Netero but this episode overwrote everything.
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:19 PM
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Great episode. They really milked the feels for Meruem and Komugi...it was hard to keep those tears back. Could she just wipe her nose though, seriously? -.- I mean, she's blind, but I'm sure she can feel the snot on her face. Sigh.

Lol, besides that, really loved it. Palm might have been a tad too overdramatic...but eh, whatever. Felt bad about Netero too.

Can't wait for next week! I don't believe the manga has much written after the Chimera Ant Arc...anyone know what will happen to the anime? Gah, I would really hate to see it go, especially after Space Brothers and all my usuals are gone as well. :'(

Anyways, hopefully Gon is okay!
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:20 PM
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I'm literally speechless. It maybe my first post here but I've been watching the discussion threads from episode 85 and I registered just to vote 5/5 for this episode and give a score of 10 to this amazing anime :) This episode and episode 131 were literally the best thing I've seen in my life :) I didn't cry though since I've been spoiled but I was on the verge of it.Thanks Togashi. Thanks MadHouse. An amazing conclusion to an amazing arc of an amazing anime. :)
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:21 PM
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Where's gon I want to see gon i wonder if he will fight the king
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:23 PM

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wolfryan said:
Where's gon I want to see gon i wonder if he will fight the king


Did you skip like the past 10 weeks?

Only way to describe my thoughts
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Jun 24, 2014 3:23 PM

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I couldn't hold myself from crying though the whole episode especially the the ending scene.. I haven't cried that much since i watched Hajime no Ippo. everything was perfect, the OSTs, the animation, the voice acting. the episode was really emotionally animated.

bleachjoj said:
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Where's gon I want to see gon i wonder if he will fight the king


Did you skip like the past 10 weeks?


hahahaha
yeah 10 weeks included this week's :)
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:24 PM

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What the hell?!!? lol the leader still being alive such twist. Poor pouf seems like he suffered the most. Good episode.
you sound poor
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:31 PM

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And once again, I found the preview hilarious.

Such a mood swing.
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:32 PM
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eh...eh...EEEH!!!!!!!!! Well it was beutiful indeed..but thats not what I was hoping for at all.. that was such waste of lives and fights.. damn Netero.. I hoped King vs super saiyan Gon .. but what I got was damn King becoming overly humane....

I mean it was good end, but not what I was hoping for.
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:37 PM

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It's cool, I'm only crying a lot but it's whatever... No big deal...
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:40 PM

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i lierally readed everypost here, dunno why, i'm just so moved....damm i mean, such action packed episodes, the figths the plot...but man, the antagonist...the freaking antagonist was the star, it has happened in the past, that antagonist are so cool that they completely overshadow the main characters (like L. or hyobou kyousuke, the last even got hi own series) but man...meruem....i don't even know what to say anymore..i'm kinda mindblown....really hard, i'm kinda mad at myself that tougth that meruem should had died vs netero, that was a cool death, sure, but this one, its gonna taka a place in the most memorable deaths of all times, at least in anime.......komugi X meruem 4ever
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Jun 24, 2014 3:46 PM

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Actually my point was how easily human's thoughts can be manipulated. Have you realised that you're crying for a killer ?
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:48 PM

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I really like how they animated what was just black with dialogue in the manga. I think it was the King's En that was floating around, but it looked like fireflies.

Really beautiful ending to Meruem + Komugi.

Also @ whoever said that we're crying for a killer - I don't think anyone's crying that Meruem's dead (well at least I'm not). It's the King's evolution from mere mindless killing Ant to "human" that's making these waterworks happen.
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:48 PM

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Change the name to Feels x Feels.

11/10, twice in row.
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:50 PM

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Actually my point was how easily human's thoughts can be manipulated. Have you realised that you're crying for a killer ?


then we must stop cry for anyone
human kill animals and eat them
all human's are killers
 
Jun 24, 2014 3:57 PM

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Satouji said:
Actually my point was how easily human's thoughts can be manipulated. Have you realised that you're crying for a killer ?

Almost every character in this series has killed somebody. I doubt that the ants killed more people than lets say the Zoldyck family.
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Jun 24, 2014 3:57 PM

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Satouji said:
Actually my point was how easily human's thoughts can be manipulated. Have you realised that you're crying for a killer ?

A killer like Killua?
You can't blame a lion for eating children. If you do, you need to blame a human for eating a chicken.
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Jun 24, 2014 4:00 PM

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ah Madhouse was handling that last episode so well... then they had to play the goddamn preview fanfare and fuck up the final scene. I mean we really coulda done without the DUNDUNDUN DUNDUN DUNDUNDUN
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Jun 24, 2014 4:01 PM

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I don't get the (few) people who think this should've ended any other way. All the build-up of the last few episodes tells us that the King is essentially unstoppable. No other Nen users come close. It would've felt really bullshitty if he'd ended up losing to Gon in some epic end-of-arc showdown, not to mention completely out of place. Gon's hatred was always personal and directed at Neferpitou, not the King; he wouldn't even be able to muster the rage to fight him in that costly adult form (let alone the fact that he *just* got done using it).

It's only fitting that the bomb's poison got him in the end. It makes Netero's sacrifice worthwhile, since he was still the one who brought down Meruem (and 2 of the royal guards) -- reiterated in the episode when the green dude thanks him for his service and Morel says he did his job well.

Finally, it ties back into the arc's theme of humanity's potential for unflinching greed and malice. In a fair, honorable fight, the ants (Meruem) wipe the floor with the humans (Netero). It was only through underhanded, artificial, deceptive tactics that Netero was able to pull out a win. Even then it required self-annihilation, a final act of rage and selfless deference to one's species -- mirroring the ants' own loyalty.

Humanity's dominating instinct is just as fierce as theirs, but they've evolved to use trickery and exploitation in combat to make up for a lack of natural weapons like teeth and claws. The poison perfectly represents this understated yet tenacious killing instinct. The arc's over, and the threat to millions of humans has been eliminated. Why? Because humans themselves are already so good at killing millions of other humans. All it takes is a "poor man's, easily mass-produced" bomb -- not even the worst of our arsenal.

Togashi's writing of this arc was truly masterful. Thematic and character development unlike anything else I've seen in shounen. I am so glad I picked up HxH and got to witness this beauty as it aired.
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:04 PM

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That was...So insightful, the sheer emotion gone into this specific episode is just adulate worthy.

R.I.P Meruem and Komugi, they had a beautiful and sensitive relationship, really loved those two.

The Chimera Ant arc is now, finally over. I sure did love it!

Now for the Dark Continent/Election arc, also...

A NEW OP AND ED!
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:08 PM

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That was...So insightful, the sheer emotion gone into this specific episode is just adulate worthy.

R.I.P Meruem and Komugi, they had a beautiful and sensitive relationship, really loved those two.

The Chimera Ant arc is now, finally over. I sure did love it!

Now for the Dark Continent/Election arc, also...

A NEW OP AND ED!


They'll probably keep the current OP next week since there's still some leftover threads that need to be tied up for the Ant arc.
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:10 PM

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Satouji said:
Actually my point was how easily human's thoughts can be manipulated. Have you realised that you're crying for a killer ?


I don't see him as a killer because he's from another specie. I don't care if our both species can think and talk.
Humans simply are his meal in the beginning. So no hard feelings from me.
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:11 PM

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Satouji said:
Actually my point was how easily human's thoughts can be manipulated. Have you realised that you're crying for a killer ?


Switching our conceptions of humans and ants is the whole point of this arc. No one's thoughts were easily manipulated; it takes careful, skilled development to make a human audience side with and feel for an ant. What was your point, then? That human emotion is easily manipulated by good storytelling? No shit, that's why we watch anime.

Meruem might be a killer, but you haven't been paying attention if you *still* think he's a monster compared to humans.
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:15 PM

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It's been about twenty minutes since I finished watching this episode. And the tears haven't stopped yet.

This arc had its ups and downs, but the last few episodes were nothing short of spectacular. But I don't really feel like going on an essay about CA, cause I'm at a loss of words right now.

That was a great finale. Couldn't have been any better, imho.

PS: but the damn preview, tho. Including it was certainly not necessary.
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Jun 24, 2014 4:18 PM

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Satouji said:
Actually my point was how easily human's thoughts can be manipulated. Have you realised that you're crying for a killer ?


"Chimera Ants killing Humans" and "Humans killing Chimera Ants" are just like Mushishi's Mushi and Humans discourse (...kinda).

Ginko would say: "It's not your fault. Neither its the Chimera Ant's fault. Both are trying to live."

The problem is that the Chimera Ants are imperative predators, and Mushis are something between life and death and can interact with humans (good and bad things may happen, tho). The point is, both are trying to control za warudo, so, this is just natural.
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:21 PM
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These are the episodes that really tell you that Hunter x Hunter is better then every single shounen out here. To have the most emotional moment come to the King of all people is truly surprising. Madhouse did an excellent job. I wouldn't change a single scene.

Next week, this arc will be over. What a ride its been. This arc will go down as one of the most morally complex arcs in shounen history in my book.
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:23 PM

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Had to hold back tears in the last five minutes or so.
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:25 PM

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This was an unusual arc. Did anyone notice the amount of tears in this arc and the number of characters who cried in this arc? So... it was an enjoyable episode... It felt weird, but art is not art if it's not weird.
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:30 PM

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I was about to cry at the end, but then the transition killed the mood for me lol.

Anyway, amazing episode, Meruem kneeling was really one of the most shocking part of this arc in terms of 'unexpected character actions'.
It's funny to see that now HunterxHunter has an even higher score on MAL...
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:37 PM

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Damn....
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:46 PM

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Finally this long ass arc has ended. I hope the next one'll be much better
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:51 PM

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OMG, WHY????? WHY MERUEM X KOMUGI RELATIONSHIP HAS TO BE SO BEAUTIFUL, SO BEAUTIFUL THAT WORDS CAN'T DESCRIBE, T_T. Seriously, they make the most beautiful couple in HxH ever, I just can't ship for no one else but them, I mean this episode really demonstrated how much they both love each other, so much that Meruem wants to spend his last minutes with his love one while Komugi wants to unite with him after his death: she chose to die along with him, THAT LET ME WITH NO WORDS.
I couldn't stop from crying that I wish their moment will never come to an end: why it has to end when they finally together. ;_; OVERALL, SUCH AV BEAUTIFUL EPISODE, IN FACT IS MY FAVORITE EPISODE FROM HXH OVERALL, THIS EPISODE WILL ALWAYS CARRY IN MY MEMORIES, SO MEMORABLE: LET'S ALL CARRY THIS IN OUR HEARTS: MERUEM X KOMUGI TOGETHER FOREVER!!!!!!


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Jun 24, 2014 4:51 PM

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Meruem+Komugi <3 <3 <3 definitely a better love story than twilight
 
Jun 24, 2014 4:55 PM

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This ending was very cringe worthy, especially at the beginning, but I have to give togashi credit, that ending was pretty good, and it did something different, I never expected such a powerful person to die like that. Good ending for a arc I didn't like that much.

Didn't like ant arc, but the ending was admittedly good.

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Jun 24, 2014 4:56 PM

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MAL threads are so boring sometimes...we get it, you all cried. Rehashes and repeats of the same sentiment get old to read super fast...use the quote button if you have to.../pettycomplaint

Can someone explain the real supreme leaders poem for me? Yeah, it ties into the themes of the chimera ant arc pretty well, but I was wondering if there was any significance in him being the one to recite the poem. Who was impersonating him? Is it important?
It's kind of interesting (and accurate!) how the whole ordeal seemed very distant when explained via the news station. Often times you hear news of some devastating event across the globe but our apathy prevents us from truly caring. We "like" things on facebook, share them to "spread the word" but do we has humans truly try to make the world a better place, or are we just trying to survive within the boundaries of society?
I love this arc so much.
 
Jun 24, 2014 5:00 PM

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Just beautifull... I can't say nothing else. :'(
 
Jun 24, 2014 5:03 PM
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R.I.P. Meruem and Komugi
 
Jun 24, 2014 5:11 PM

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This episode was all bullshit. I can't believe you guys can just let these plot holes be and enjoy the show so much. This ending was honestly the worst possible thing i can ever imagine. 1/5...

 
Jun 24, 2014 5:12 PM

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they thought meruem would take over the world, but the only thing the hunters didn't take into consideration: what if meruem doesn't turn out to be super evil q.q

i had a hunch nobody would need to beat him, because he transcended not only bugs but also humans *-*
 
Jun 24, 2014 5:17 PM

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I have reread the manga several times and have always cried over this scene. Now I am still crying over the anime adaptation.

First time no OP and ED in an HxH episode, I think? Thank you Madhouse. I feel the love and effort.

That was great. Ugh my heart ;A;
 
Jun 24, 2014 5:18 PM
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The connection between those two was really something else. So pure. This episode left me immersed in this contemplative mood where I'm just speechless.
 
Jun 24, 2014 5:22 PM

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Beautifully done episode. RIP komugi and meruem.
 
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