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Jun 24, 2014 5:04 PM

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Woh, so extreme, the whole humanity is going to reset? Being witches is is funny.
I need at least to see Neko vs Mako or I'll be huge disappointed.

The church dudes knew that Kazumi was going to hack something even before asking it, god.


Zelot said:

Ahaha, thought the same.
Modified by Akanezora, Jun 24, 2014 5:07 PM
Jun 24, 2014 6:03 PM

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So I'm usually on the anime side when it comes to the manga vs. anime debate, because anime adaptations, are just that: an adaptation. Manga does not translate linearly into an animation... but anyways I ended up reading up to this point in the manga, and boy does the anime cut out A LOT of stuff. It isn't even rushed at this point, it's completely cut, so many scenes and dialogue are cut out or even modified. Especially the part with Hatsuna this scene, or even Kazumi's hacking. Dunno how to feel about that..
Modified by yahzee, Jun 24, 2014 6:08 PM
Jun 24, 2014 7:29 PM
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Shit's going real, I generally disliked the idea about them dying left, right and center,
but now that it makes some sense, it's all good.

Next episode will be the only one I yearn to see this season from all the series. *clap*

Jun 24, 2014 8:20 PM

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Wut. I thought the series was alright so far likeable characters, alright story with finding pills and actual death but this episode just went way too quick and destroyed the pacing. I'll watch the last episode but this anime is pretty much ruined for me.
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Jun 24, 2014 9:05 PM

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Wow, okay ummm.... Shit got real.

Jesus, I feel the slow and steady tanking of this series is becoming a death spiral. Makes me sad.

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Jun 24, 2014 9:15 PM

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Why am I only an episode away from finishing this anime when it has been this terrible since the first episode?
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Jun 24, 2014 9:30 PM

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Strong and harsh stuff
Well Hatsuna seems to be still alive and regenerating
Jun 24, 2014 9:45 PM

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The_Bif said:
Between the manga readers complaining because this isn't the manga, and the guys complaining because its "garbage", I'm not exactly sure what you guys expected from this series...

Yeah, it's rushed and it's potential has been wasted in a lot of places, but the series has been a good, entertaining ride so far. Unless you're spending the length of each and every episode trying to compare it to the manga or some other anime that you chose as a favorite.

Face it, it's not the manga. It's an animation studio that paid the author to allow them to do an animated form of the manga. That includes leaving out details and events that they(the studio) feel either do not fit into their storyboards or play no part in the main plotline. If they were just animating the manga you'd have nothing but manga panels being shot across the screen, not literally but close enough. I can't think of one single anime based from a manga or LN that has completely 100% animated the exact source material. Things get changed, sometimes those things that get changed or left out are poor choices by the studio and would have worked better if left in or left alone. If you want a manga, you read a manga, if you want an anime you watch an anime... doesn't make much sense to watch an anime if you want a manga.

On that note, I'm concerned that there is still so much left to wrap up with only one episode remaining. It seems likely we'll get an anime only ending like Elfen Lied, but considering how much I loved EL it may not be so bad. One can hope.

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Jun 25, 2014 2:01 AM
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Wow now this episode was terrible. At least chisato's escape was pretty cool.
Jun 25, 2014 2:43 AM

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Eh, I don't like that they skipped over the assassination of that one scientist and Mizuka arc. Seeing how they skipped over those two somewhat important events, I doubt a second season will be made. This is currently around ch.59. The latest manga chapter is at 104. If you don't read the manga and want to know about the events they skipped over, start reading at ch. 38. That's when nanami gets ejected.
Jun 25, 2014 8:44 AM

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I dont even...

What the heck is happening to this SLOW show?! Rofl they just jumped forward a mile!
Jun 25, 2014 10:39 AM

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Why are people yelling about an original ending? It will just end right after the fight with Valkirya.
Jun 25, 2014 11:40 AM

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Looks like they cut a lot of the last arc out to get to this point. I'm kind of surprised they tried to stuff this last part in such small remaining time.
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Jun 25, 2014 12:22 PM

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shanimebib said:
Why am I only an episode away from finishing this anime when it has been this terrible since the first episode?

I've found it's much easier to complete a bad anime like this when it's ongoing, sometimes you have nothing to do and just watch the 1 episode per week when you've gotten the good ones out of the way. At lead that's the case for me.

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Jun 25, 2014 12:30 PM

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One of my guesses why they are rushing this is so they can sell some more manga. Those who werent reading the manga and liked the anime would buy the manga. That or they simply follow the plot of childhood friend remembers and the mc finally confirms it while on the secondary role its the "witch" issue.
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Jun 25, 2014 3:16 PM

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The other witches that melted did so right away, and did not pause for 10 mins after starting to melt. So a regular witch might not be able to survive because her internal organs etc. are damaged at this point, but given that Hatsuna can regenerate, it's a given that she will survive.

It also can't be the drasil, as that one guy said it baiscally has a zero chance of happening *this week*. Hatsuna also mentioned before she started "If i can heal him before i completely melt..". She basically already said it.

Still wonder why she didn't simply heal him *a bit*. Like, just so that he survives. She could continue healing in steps, so she doesn't risk dying herself. But no, whenever someone can heal others by draining his own life, they can never stop before not having restored the one they heal completely - which usually means they die.

It's hard to say what would be sufficient with a wound like that, but just imagine a complicated fracture, that would never heal correctly on it's own, or a finger or something cut off. Just heal until most or all pieces are in place again and hold together ever so slightly. If the body can heal a complete fracture, it can heal a cracked bone too, and if we can sew fingers back on and the body heals the muscles and nerves etc., it can do so after *restoring* it to that point, too.
Jun 25, 2014 3:24 PM

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they cut out quite a bit of content from the manga.

the explanation that "aliens created humans" was rushed and badly done. it made the rest of the episode including those ex researchers seem like convenient plot devices. let's see how they'll end this
Jun 25, 2014 4:07 PM

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Well the plot feels like it's totally getting rushed. I laughed when the Initializer got shot within 10 seconds of him being introduced.
Jun 25, 2014 4:38 PM

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...this show is so ridiculous LMAO.
to think it's from the same guy who did elfen lied
Jun 25, 2014 6:47 PM

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1lau said:
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Well Hatsuna seems to be still alive and regenerating

I think there's 50/50 chance Hatsuna might be dead and might as well alive. Because when in manga, if Hatsuna was alive, she will respond to Murakami when Murakami cried infront of her. But now... Hatsuna no response eh...

Still, I think I follow manga's story better.
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Jun 25, 2014 8:10 PM
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shanimebib said:
Why am I only an episode away from finishing this anime when it has been this terrible since the first episode?

It's incredibly stupid and ridiculous but the potential is still there with all the "aliens created humans but they left their remnants on earth so they could destroy it now, girls with super powers are the only ones that can save everyone from apocalypse!!!" It's so dumb, but I just keep watching waiting for things to escalate... Which apparently won't even happen in the anime, seeing as there's only 1 episode left
Jun 25, 2014 8:24 PM

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Is it just me, or does the infodump they left us with this episode have nothing to do with the previous 11 episodes? I mean, it doesn't even feel like a new chapter in the story; it just feels like they skipped 10 episodes. No proper foreshadowing (no, that one instance of the alien slime doesn't count), new characters in an organisation coming out of absolutely nowhere, and a "the end of the world is nigh" announcement?

I don't think I've ever seen a story where the first and second halves were so disjointed. The story adapters should learn from other sources on how to do dramatic changes in scale. And don't get me started on the super cliche characters and dialogue. I cringed hard the entire confrontation.

When I read the synopsis of this anime, I was expecting something really similar to Rewrite.
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And I was rather disappointed. I know I really shouldn't compare standard seasonal anime to big-name VNs, but damn, this show is like a super-shitty version of Rewrite.
Jun 26, 2014 1:57 PM

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ex_necross said:
I've found it's much easier to complete a bad anime like this when it's ongoing, sometimes you have nothing to do and just watch the 1 episode per week when you've gotten the good ones out of the way. At lead that's the case for me.

This is completely true... I just completed watching Dragonar, and that turd makes Brynhildr look like a masterpiece.
Jun 26, 2014 2:09 PM

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OH GOD, and i thought No game No life was bad.... but this....
Dear god... I hate my club that forced me to watch this...
Jun 27, 2014 4:46 AM
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This show is so shit.

Modified by Rice, Jun 27, 2014 5:00 AM
Jun 27, 2014 7:29 AM

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kitkatxz said:
OH GOD, and i thought No game No life was bad.... but this....
Dear god... I hate my club that forced me to watch this...

Kit, you participated willingly! We suffered together. As a club. Voluntarily. With binds. Clockwork Orange style...

But yeah, this show dwarfs a lot of other shows in the shite department. Nuns, man. Freaking nuns.
Jun 27, 2014 7:46 PM

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Decent episode but definitely rushed. I would have loved to see the Kazumi battle.
Jun 28, 2014 6:20 AM
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They obviously want this thing to be a one season thing and have on plans to bring it back for a second even though they would easily have had enough material but ahwell. For the rushing it is actually pretty well done though I must say, better then I would have anticipated for rushing. Still pissed they skipped the Skadi and Freya battle, both my favorites because of Kazumi having a highlighted role.
Jun 28, 2014 6:50 AM

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Lol, #1107 is Kotori? O.o

I bet Ryouta jumped in front of Neko to take the hit for her... and I was right XD.

So Kotori and Kuroha are feared, and Kuroha is even stronger that Vlakyria lol.

Oh look, some new guys appeared following the GPS signal of that device that was turned on hm...

Poor Hatsuna died T.T and those guys want to kill them, just as in that message on the device.

Aha, so humans were created by aliens and Kotori si the switch to kill them all.

Shit. that thing's hatched and if that light covers the Earth everything is going to go poof...
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Jun 29, 2014 11:34 AM

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I think the pacing was fine this episode. I need to catch up on the manga though.
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Jun 29, 2014 5:47 PM

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Uhm what I have no clue what's going on anymore.
This would be at least somewhat acceptable if we were halfway through the series but it's not acceptable when there's only one episode left.

Nope. Shits sucks so hard.

OShoranO said:
Way to rush through 40+ chapters in 1 episode Arms rofl

Jun 30, 2014 2:38 AM

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Hatsuna is alive maybe that's what that was i wanted to sleep But i can't stop, this is def one of those show that leave cliffhangers everywhere !!great ep though
Jun 30, 2014 3:11 AM

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Fast-yes, but I really enjoyed it. Only one ep to go...^-^ Kinda hope for
one more season, although it doesn't really look like there's gonna be one.
Jul 1, 2014 1:40 PM

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Rush sooo mush, man this is bad. Q_Q
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Jul 15, 2014 1:00 PM

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I like how Chisato and Valkyria just stand there and do nothing while all the girls cry over Murakami.

What even. Why is Valk protecting herself with her arms when the petty explosions went off? SHE BLEW HERSELF AND HALF A MOUNTAIN UP IN ONE ATTACK. Stop being so utterly inconsistent.

Hatsuna gave up her life to save you. No tears shed by anyone and they all forgot about her almost instantly. How terrible.

"The humans on earth were all created by aliens." AKA Prometheus.

Now that we learned a lot more, this anime is slightly more likable. Slightly. Perhaps 4/10 instead of 3/10. But the ACDC nature is still annoying as crap.

Whoa another male. Too bad he is a side character with feminine hair.

Oh noes: Ain Soph Aur. Pfft just nuke that crap. Aught to disrupt it.
Aug 2, 2014 3:38 AM

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I liked this episode but it had like no impact at all. Probably because it's rushed to hell.

Like when Hatsuna sacrificed herself, I felt nothing. It just felt so "we'll just put this single line here so the audience knows that they're sad." No impact, just like they wanted it to get it out of the way.
Aug 2, 2014 5:06 AM
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I know this episode was supposed to be serious, but there were many things that made me laugh. Like, how Nanami said "hello" when she appeared, and when that guy was immediately shot by Chisato when he was introduced, and how they stopped giving a shit about Hatsuna ahahaha.
I read Mako's MAL profile yeah, Kotori is pretty important.
Of course, Ryouta will be saved, and it's pretty obvious to me that Hatsuna is still alive. What a sick fuck!! He cut her sister's head off and tried to save her. He is a genius, but he is stupid, too =_=
See, Mako, he doesn't love you!! So, please, stop following him already. How can you be so dumb and still follow him because you love him. I freaking hate shits like that.
I like that blonde girl. Let's see how this Anime will end. Really rushed, and it really looks like they will do an Anime original ending.
Aug 3, 2014 9:05 AM

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My God, the script is unbearable. A lot of laughable scenes in this episode.
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Aug 31, 2014 7:35 AM

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Kinda disappointing episode. Of course Ryouta didn't die, he is the MC. Well whatever, I want to know what is the connection between Neko and Mako.
The series was ok up to the previous episode. I wonder if they can save it in the last episode.
Sep 13, 2014 5:51 AM

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The fuck? Hatsuna is still regenerating.

Feb 23, 2015 4:30 PM

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Oh boy oh boy! All these events sure are going to make an awesome last episode! So without further ado let's find out what happens next!
Mar 7, 2015 3:18 PM

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What in the fuck just happened
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Apr 3, 2015 6:44 PM

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Tis but a flesh wound.

Good job on the forcast, Kana! Hope to see powered-up Neko.
Oct 24, 2015 11:21 PM

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Lmao I nearly forgot how terribly rushed the climax is and how much of the manga's content was cut. Even from an anime-only perspective, this was episode was kind of stupid.

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Sep 30, 2016 7:26 PM
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I really like this series and have no problems with.......The Flow. Since I haven't read the manga....the VN....the LN....I do know an RN (her name is Kathy)...played the game ..... or eaten the cereal........ I have no problems with the series at all. I like it.
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Dec 3, 2016 8:17 AM
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One thing is skipping SoL scenes, but it's different, they are skipping major scenes, modifying stuff so that they can reach the same end! And Kotori hatching was too fast, in the Manga it took at least 10 chapters between Kotori kidnapping...
Dec 14, 2016 10:01 PM

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That revelation was rather dumb.
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Dec 16, 2016 2:51 PM

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This Episode Was Really Good
Jun 22, 2017 1:53 PM

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Pretty great episode,one of the best this season.

i am pretty surprised most people thought the worm was hatsuna regenerating. i was pretty certain it was the monster coming out.
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