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Jun 20, 2014 12:29 PM

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What a good way to ruin a good (not good, but okay) series. Would be better for some of them to stay dead, what's the point of bringing them back to begin with?
I was going to give this a 7/10 but had to lower it down to 5/10 because of that shitty end.
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:31 PM

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I'm really torn on the last episode of Akuma no Riddle. The series had long been one of my favorites from the very beginning, but the ending, was very disappointing.

So Tokaku wanted to kill Haru so that she could prove she wasn't being controlled, and then Haru survived due to an iron rib. Then every character is still alive, despite some of them clearly dying.

This episode was a mess, but I did like the epilogue given to all the characters. I don't know what to feel about Kirigaya and Nametame surviving. I mean, they are my Yuri OTP and all, but they should have stayed dead. Let their epilogue be their tombstones next to each other. That would have been much more fitting.

Well even with the disappointing ending, I enjoyed the series. It doesn't need, nor will it probably ever get a second season, which is fine by me.

It was a fun ride 8/10
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:32 PM
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What's sad is that they didn't leave an opening for a second season. Also, the animation went down as the episodes went.

Oh well, still decent show. Episode 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 were the best episodes in my opinion.
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:33 PM

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Oh god this was the most confusing ending I've ever seen. Two Tokakus, Haru and Nio don't die even though both are stabbed in the heart. They explained for Haru but not for Nio. And then 3 of the people that we saw killed are somehow back alive and everything is back to normal.
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Jun 20, 2014 12:36 PM
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What's sad is that they didn't leave an opening for a second season. Also, the animation went down as the episodes went.

Oh well, still decent show. Episode 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 were the best episodes in my opinion.


Did you not see the very last scene? Though that's for the upcoming OVA/Special. This show sold way too poorly to get a second season.
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:42 PM

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Don't really see what they could do for a 2nd season. Whens the OVA coming out?

Last episode was confusing as fuk. And how were those 2 that played Romeo and Juliet still alive?

A class full of assassins and no-one dies. WTF is this, Naruto?
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:45 PM
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Lol, I feel so trolled after watching this episode.
I guess nothing can kill you in this anime.
Haru actually having titanium ribs was hilarous.
Maybe even an HE Shell, fired from an MBT, directly at someone's face wouldn't prove to be fatal.
Anyway, I'm glad that the characters are at least moving forward in life.

Personally, I would prefer if there wasn't a second season. I hope the OVA is going to contain a lot of yuri content.
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:48 PM

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All I have to say is what type of bullshit ending was that.
1: I thought Nio was better than how she performed being the last fight and all
2: Everyone that I knew was dead suddenly came back to life. For example Nio had a knife into her neck, Haru had a knife into her and even had a death scene moment, Isuke Inukai neck was properly broken, and even the Romeo and Juliet (one of my favorite episodes because of their supposed death) lived even when one drank poison and the other got a knife in the heart. There are like two more but their deaths were not that important.
3: That entire ending quite literally sunk the show into a a large gaping plot hole
4: Haru has ribs that are made out of titanium? What!?

♪All his life has been, a roller coaster ride of dream
No time for looking back, forgetting who or what
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Jun 20, 2014 12:51 PM
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i actually like the happy ending, but i hope there's gonna be a season 2
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:53 PM
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StormNA said:
Dashingfella said:
What's sad is that they didn't leave an opening for a second season. Also, the animation went down as the episodes went.

Oh well, still decent show. Episode 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 were the best episodes in my opinion.


Did you not see the very last scene? Though that's for the upcoming OVA/Special. This show sold way too poorly to get a second season.


How much did the series end up selling?

Haven't seen the ending completely yet.
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:54 PM
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Let's be honest you guys should have seen the no death ending coming it was forecasted way early on in the anime when in the romeo and juliet scene they took the deadly poison and they went to the hospital instead of dying and yes it was mentioned in that episode or the following that they went to the hospital. The fact that no one was dying the whole series pretty much reinforces that no one will die, I was actually pleasantly surprised by the ending I thought it was going to be the same typical oh no I killed her what have I done or I protected her all this time time to kill her cause i'm a cold hearted bitch bwahahahaha. No the happy ending was quite a stray from how animes of this type typically end was a bland every episode assassin fight which would put it at a solid 5/10 but the ending definitely boosted it to a 7/10 for me.


i totally agreed with everything you said
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:55 PM

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O.O

What is this!?! Everyone being alive and that titanium rib.
Nio being the other Tokaku with her shaman powers. Made that fight kinda hard to follow until she got knocked away. Felt a little confused on why Haru charged at Tokaku.

Seeing everyone doing their own thing was nice in a way. Such as Haruki, Hitsugi and Chitaru. Hmm. I thought Tokaku was the one to be in the ceremony. It was a happy ending, but I feel unsatisfied with such an abrupt ending.
 
Jun 20, 2014 12:57 PM

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I didn't really like the happy ending, I think I'd like this better if everyone who was killed stayed dead. Overall, pretty good anime though.
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Jun 20, 2014 12:57 PM

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Wow I had hoped the ending would at least be satisfying but I guess I hoped too much from this train wreck. An anime about assassins where no one dies even the two that supposedly killed each other -______-"

I mean WTF??? the way Haru survived was just... graaaaahhhh!! Even that ojou-sama who fell from the top floor also survived... I swear Alka from Blade and Soul can kill all of them in half episode.

Nio was rather disappointing too for a last boss -_-

Whew.. can't believe I actually completed this... then again I survived Coppelion so...

2/10. At least it's nicely animated and some of the ending songs were quite nice.
 
Jun 20, 2014 1:06 PM

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Woops everyone is dead let's just bring them back to life and make it a happy ending
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Jun 20, 2014 1:09 PM

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This is like an ending of a kids show. I do like happy endings but such ending doesn't fit to this anime.
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Jun 20, 2014 1:17 PM

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WTF did i just saw?
I mean, i was prepared for the worst and then this ;___;
just kill me and then click the RESET button ^^
 
Jun 20, 2014 1:17 PM

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A 1 episode special is supposed to air on Dec 17, 2014... Hope it cleans up the ending.
 
Jun 20, 2014 1:19 PM

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I really enjoyed the whole show the last 2 months, I thought it was really good but the ending to this show was by far the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Half way through the episode, I thought everyone there would die or at least tokaku but no instead everyone is alive and well.

I don't normally write posts but I felt like it was necessary for me to vent my disappointment.

I still enjoyed the show a lot so I gave it 8/10
 
Jun 20, 2014 1:21 PM

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I don't mind that Haru survived(at least we got the explanation). But Hitsugi, Chitaru, Hanabusa and Nio is the other case. I just hope 13 ep won't be some fanservice special(or at least it would be yuri)
 
Jun 20, 2014 1:26 PM
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Oh come on!

That's some bullshit right there! Everyone is just okay? Everyone survived?

It makes a lot of the drama the series thrived on completely pointless!
 
Jun 20, 2014 1:41 PM

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These characters had ridiculous amounts of plot armor. Did we really need a super-happy ending? It sort of cheapens the entire story.
 
Jun 20, 2014 1:42 PM

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Why was this episode only 14 minutes long?
 
Jun 20, 2014 1:51 PM

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Welp, was enjoying this anime, then, "Everyone's alive!"

Yeah. Not much else to say really. Everyone else has already said it.
 
Jun 20, 2014 2:02 PM
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Whattheheck, how did some of them even survive.. .___.


Nailed it. I'm pretty sure the girls that played Romeo x Juliet died for sure.

What the fuck is wrong with this series and why did they want so bad to screw the finale.
 
Jun 20, 2014 2:05 PM

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Another anime that couldn't manage to end properly. I liked the show overall, but this episode had too many ass pulls and retarded "twists".
 
Jun 20, 2014 2:09 PM

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That. Was. Awesome.
 
Jun 20, 2014 2:10 PM

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What a twist O.O i was blown when Tokaku appeared twice. I'm not sure why Haru ran towards Tokaku to get "killed" but oh well, no one died so that's a happy ending... not exactly what i expected but good nontheless.

I don't think we'll get a second season but maybe a special or similar based on that sms.
 
Jun 20, 2014 2:15 PM

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l was going to give this series an 8 when Tokaku "killed" Haru because i though it was sad and emotional...l really loved it tbh...then the rest happened and l was like..meh. 6/10

 
Jun 20, 2014 2:24 PM

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Something like Titanium ribs actually exist... but the authors got it wrong.
Titanium ribs are used for children with severe chest deformities. Its to create more space for the lungs to breath not to replace shattered lungs. That doesn't really increase Haru's chance of survival against a knife getting stuck in her chest.

That endings was horrible. That entire episode was pretty terrible. The series was going at such a good direction as well :(

I feel trolled. Time to pretend that, that ending didn't happen and that Haru died along with a lot of the other assassin's~
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Jun 20, 2014 2:27 PM
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Started generic and boring,got interesting and decent 6/10.

Happy ending though...everyone fucking lived,when they were all suppose to died except for Tokaku & Haru.

Ohh and Tokaku vs Tokaku (Nio) was kinda hard to follow.I thought they were going to go cliche and have Haru kill one of the Tokaku and it be like "it cause I know you so well" or something among those lines.

This happy ending really sucked.

 
Jun 20, 2014 2:36 PM
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uh what

I demand so many explanations of how everyone suddenly was alive

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Jun 20, 2014 2:43 PM

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Well the finale. Barely descent imo, nothing special. An overall 5/10 from me.

Damn everyone was alive?... Get serious.....

I think what this series missed was Urobuchi, he would have potential to make this better.
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Jun 20, 2014 2:50 PM

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What did the show tried to accomplish?
What a lame ending. The EDs were great though, especially this last one.
 
Jun 20, 2014 2:51 PM

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At some point I got confused at Nio VS Tokaku. They should have used Nio's VA once the ruse was discovered...

KIRIGAYA AND CHITARU ARE ALIVE! YES!!!!!!
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Jun 20, 2014 2:58 PM

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This episode blew my mind ...


I think that all the assasins risked their lifes for the sake of Haru clan that's why they are all alive now .


it's rewatch time , i must comprehend the whole series to make the AnR AMV .

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Jun 20, 2014 3:03 PM

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Really?????

What a let down, this ending

Good episode until the last part...
 
Jun 20, 2014 3:18 PM
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sorry but that ending brought the show down from a 9 to a 6 for me.
 
Jun 20, 2014 3:19 PM

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i had no subs so hardly understood anything,what happened when Haru got stabbed?
really confusing episode guess 8/10 but i like happy endings.


Well, if you don't have subs it's sure to be confusing...
When she got stabbed the knife touched the bones and didn't pierced the heart. A BS theory...
Apart from the first episode it was one of the worst anime this spring.


Correction - one of her ribs was made out of titanium due to a previous injury. So because of the fact that she's been injured over and over again (scars anyone?) that much is plausible.

But how on earth did EVERYONE survive? I could see Nio surviving due to her lineage. Those tattoos obviously account for more. So it's plausible her abilities extend further then explained which is why she survived.

But "the princess", Chitaru, and, Hitsugi should have died. Or AT THE VERY LEAST Chitaru and Hitsugi. So what the hell happened? They poisoned each other.

Hell I'm confused about most of this episode. I got the ending I wanted, but due to the characters being "resurrected" it really cheapened it for me. Did the chairwoman somehow hit a damn reset button due to Tokaku wishing for Haru to live a peaceful life?

So what about this special episode? I didn't hear anything about that. Just the "Preview" with Tokaku presumably getting the correct answer on the riddle. Or was that the preview for the "special episode?"

EDIT: Sorry only one of them was poisoned. The show went by so fast I can't remember which one it was. But one got stabbed while the other was poisoned. Oh that's right, Hitsugi was stabbed presumably in the heart. Chitaru poisoned herself. So how on EARTH did they BOTH survive?

They went totally left field with this "happy end." Not sure on my rating. This episode? 2/5 because of the huge ass plot hole EVEN THOUGH I wanted the "Yuri end." Overall series? 7/10 I guess. Was an 8 or 9. But that ending just screwed it all up. The special episode better do something to fix this.
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Jun 20, 2014 3:23 PM

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plz no season 2 of this shit
 
Jun 20, 2014 3:25 PM
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why in the heck did tokaku try kill haru anyone know? it cant jst be because she belives wat some other person tells her over believing in the person she loves makes no sense after woulds u wld be like oh i wasnt controlled then oh my best and only friend is dead now what lol seriously wtf show

some of the characters that where definatly dead where still alive like the romeo and juliet ones she took a lethal dose of poison if she was taken to hospital the others would have known she wasnt dead so i assume they didnt so is she like imune to poisons. the 2nd queen fell from a sky scrapper and some how lived wth wth wth crapiest story in along time there was no real backstory into harus scares in as the actual event of how they where gained a flash back wld be nice

hopefully the special explains the reason behind tokaku attacking haru and some insight on her scares
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Jun 20, 2014 3:30 PM

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ok either i missed some very important story bits or what the hell happend at the end.


and it looks like i was right. only way to prove whether tokaku was hypnotized or not by a queen bee power was to see if she could kill haru


like i get giving those that survived an ending but some were clearly dead. i really do not mind the happy ending but atleast give explanations.

-sumireko survived the fall because of her half cyborg body?

-shiena who got poisoned by hitsugi only got poisoned by a weak poison?

-chitaru survived hitsugi's poison because hitsugi had an antidote and got lucky that she did not die to the knife herself so she was able to save chitaru?

-isuke only got knocked out instead of getting killed by tokaku because tokaku was never controlled by the queen bee power and made to kill to protect haru, therefore that whole shrine thingy preventing tokaku from killing still applys?



if they wanted to go for that everyone lives ending they should have never clearly shown some of the characters dying.


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in the end decent show that suffers from being a bit too formulaic for the most part of the series aswell as the weird ending


shows based on on going mangas just never really work out if they go for an anime only ending


liked pretty much all characters and every single one would make for a great main character in their own series

loved the character designs and the different endings



would not mind a remake once the manga is done
 
Jun 20, 2014 3:53 PM

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Bad finale. Bad show. Final score: bad/bad
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Jun 20, 2014 3:55 PM

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Decent episode, Great show. Personally I didn't have a problem with the ending. Particularly the fact that everyone survived. One of the underlying themes in this show has been the hardships/problems that each of the girls faced before their enrollment in the black class, and during their enrollment, and it's nice to see some of them overcome their problems.

The only characters in the ending that I kinda raised an eyebrow at were Hitsugi and Chitaru. However, when you think about it, they "died" on stage during a play. It seems the play was really just that. A play.

Again, decent episode, and great show overall imo.
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Jun 20, 2014 3:56 PM
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So what I got from reddit was that Tokaku was really trying to kill Haru, and at the beginning it was Nio that saved her. What a twist. I kinda figured, but it makes sense now.
 
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why in the heck did tokaku try kill haru anyone know? it cant jst be because she belives wat some other person tells her over believing in the person she loves makes no sense after woulds u wld be like oh i wasnt controlled then oh my best and only friend is dead now what lol seriously wtf show


Tokaku tried to kill Haru to prove that she could because that somehow proves that Haru wasn't manipulating her (wut r logics?). Basically I think the point was that if Haru had the primer, then Tokaku would not have been able to stab her. Don't worry; it doesn't make sense.

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So what I got from reddit was that Tokaku was really trying to kill Haru, and at the beginning it was Nio that saved her. What a twist. I kinda figured, but it makes sense now.

Yeah, I'm 99% that's what happened.
 
Jun 20, 2014 3:56 PM

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Titanium ribs and nobody died.

I regret watching this. 4/10.
 
Jun 20, 2014 4:00 PM
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well that wasnt that great and shiena never got an ending song....
 
Jun 20, 2014 4:16 PM

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So, in the end....it looks like....every single one of the assassin's that were in the Black Class......are now living peaceful-like lives? o-o Huh? I would've thought at least 3 of them died.....oh well...

Haru was killed by Tokaku--
NOT!
I really thought she did, but nope. :P Something about having a titanium like rib cage. o-o Sounds painful. :P

It was an alright anime....overall.... :/ I just wished there was a lot more fighting scenes between each assassin, but, we didn't get a lot except around the last few episodes. :/

In conclusion, good anime. :3
 
Jun 20, 2014 4:17 PM
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Liked the anime. Made me laugh at how dumb some parts were.
 
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