Is Shiina Mashiro autistic?
There are many forms of autism, and I think that the genius girl Shiina Mashiro contains symptoms of autism, specifically, Also, if you look at Shiina being photographed(takes 10 secs to load), her face looks like it is peering into the distance, unfazed and thinking of something else. Like WTF, we know her intelligence is not normal, but the fact that she is 90% devoid of common everyday sense makes me think she is partly autistic. Also, "Some persons with [autism] excel in visual skills, music, math and art."(autismspeaks.org). This adds to the explanation for her talents. However Shiina is so very lucky to have such nice friends who do not take advantage of her and take care of her for FREE because she can barely live by herself and... god forbid is she does, I think she needs a helper for LIFE.  |
_Dazzle_Jun 9, 2014 10:33 PM
| It's been suggested that she may suffer from Savant Syndrome, which is similar to Autism really, but nothing is known for sure. Some of her behavioral tendencies do sometimes imply that she may have one of those two conditions though. |
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| They don't outright say these characters have autism because then you would be a horrible person for laughing at the problems their disorder causes. |
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ReaperCreeper said: They don't outright say these characters have autism because then you would be a horrible person for laughing at the problems their disorder causes. hahaha, instead of causing us to laugh at her, we grow angrier of how absurd it is to let such a talented (probably rich?) girl travels ALONE to another country without any aid or helper of some sort. Either her parents are really messed up, too stingy to afford a helper(we can't tell from the anime) or it was purely for the forced drama, which represented a large part of what defines this series. |
_Dazzle_ said: ReaperCreeper said: They don't outright say these characters have autism because then you would be a horrible person for laughing at the problems their disorder causes. hahaha, instead of causing us to laugh at her, we grow angrier of how absurd it is to let such a talented (probably rich?) girl travels ALONE to another country without any aid or helper of some sort. Either her parents are really messed up, too stingy to afford a helper(we can't tell from the anime) or it was purely for the forced drama, which represented a large part of what defines this series. Mang. Parents nvr exist in these types of anime. |
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| all of them do. |
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| I don't know really, but anyway is it matter to you? |
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WatchingYouPost said: Yes. no |
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DGemu said: Mang. Parents nvr exist in these types of anime. So true... I wish they had maybe a little scenes to introduce the parents of such talented individuals. This would prove to be better characterization and a more fleshed out character background info. |
_Dazzle_ said: There are many forms of autism, and I think that the genius girl Shiina Mashiro contains symptoms of autism, specifically, Also, if you look at Shiina being photographed(takes 10 secs to load), her face looks like it is peering into the distance, unfazed and thinking of something else. Like WTF, we know her intelligence is not normal, but the fact that she is 90% devoid of common everyday sense makes me think she is partly autistic. Also, "Some persons with [autism] excel in visual skills, music, math and art."(autismspeaks.org). This adds to the explanation for her talents. However Shiina is so very lucky to have such nice friends who do not take advantage of her and take care of her for FREE because she can barely live by herself and... god forbid is she does, I think she needs a helper for LIFE. What makes you think, that autistics have no common sense? |
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| Without a doubt, she's autistic. |
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TheBigGuy said: Speaking as someone with Autism I can vouch for the acuraccy of said statement._Dazzle_ said: There are many forms of autism, and I think that the genius girl Shiina Mashiro contains symptoms of autism, specifically, Also, if you look at Shiina being photographed(takes 10 secs to load), her face looks like it is peering into the distance, unfazed and thinking of something else. Like WTF, we know her intelligence is not normal, but the fact that she is 90% devoid of common everyday sense makes me think she is partly autistic. Also, "Some persons with [autism] excel in visual skills, music, math and art."(autismspeaks.org). This adds to the explanation for her talents. However Shiina is so very lucky to have such nice friends who do not take advantage of her and take care of her for FREE because she can barely live by herself and... god forbid is she does, I think she needs a helper for LIFE. What makes you think, that autistics have no common sense? |
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| Why are people calling her Shiina? Nobody in the show calls her that. |
ayuxx said: At first I thought she might be, but over the course of the series, she more and more just seemed really really socially underdeveloped, which isn't the same thing. I agree with ayuxx here, I feel as if in the beginning it really seemed like she was slightly autistic. She was unable to take care of herself and emotions and proper social skills were all foreign to her. But this could all be due to the fact that she spent years of her life just studying art and painting and not interacting with her peers like normal kids. As the series goes on and she gets more exposure you can really see how she starts to change. Its as if shes maturing more and more socially, just at a later time in her life since she got a slow start. |
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animalia said: TheBigGuy said: Speaking as someone with Autism I can vouch for the acuraccy of said statement.What makes you think, that autistics have no common sense? I spent four years with people with autism and they had common sense. |
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TheBigGuy said: Well what other people consider common sense often isn't common sense to me until it is explanied. And even then it isn't always true, for example while I accept that for clothing in western society there are certain things that are considered decent and undecent. I still it thinks its a bunch of rubbish logically, even though I understand people's rationale.animalia said: Speaking as someone with Autism I can vouch for the acuraccy of said statement. I spent four years with people with autism and they had common sense. |
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| From Dictionary.com Common Sense: sound practical judgement that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence. From Wikipedia: Common sense is a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things, which is shared by ("common to") nearly all people, and can be reasonably expected of nearly all people without any need for debate. "Common sense" has at least two specifically philosophical meanings. One is a capability of the animal soul (Greek psukhē) proposed by Aristotle, which enables different individual senses to collectively perceive the characteristics of physical things such as movement and size, which all physical things have in different combinations, allowing people and other animals to distinguish and identify physical things. This common sense is distinct from basic sensory perception and from human rational thinking, but cooperates with both. The second special use of the term is Roman-influenced and is used for the natural human sensitivity for other humans and the community. Just like the everyday meaning, both of these refer to a type of basic awareness and ability to judge which most people are expected to share naturally, even if they can not explain why. There is no true or false common sense. Using your example with clothing, common sense is, that you should wear some when leaving your house or the like. What type of clothing you wear, is affected by other things. |
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catknife said: She is not autistic. She has DPD (Dependant Personality Disorder) Look it up She also has Eidetic memory Nothing to do with Autism. Ok but the fans take things too far they may be more happy with autism instead ....lol |
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| anime is autistic in general soooo |
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| Should I watch this show for the autismdere? |
DGemu said: _Dazzle_ said: hahaha, instead of causing us to laugh at her, we grow angrier of how absurd it is to let such a talented (probably rich?) girl travels ALONE to another country without any aid or helper of some sort. Either her parents are really messed up, too stingy to afford a helper(we can't tell from the anime) or it was purely for the forced drama, which represented a large part of what defines this series. Mang. Parents nvr exist in these types of anime. So true. It's like Charlie Brown, the parents don't matter. |
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Yes said: Mooncake said: Yes?YES. Yeah I think she is autistic, but she falls in love with the main character, I thought autistic people couldn't really do that. She's more of a Savant than an autism. Also not all autistic people have the same deficiencies. There is an autism spectrum which determines the areas which they are deficient in caused by chromosomal abnormalities. You should go read the wiki on it, it's actually quite interesting. The point is though yes autistic can feel love. Love is hormonal after all. But whether they can comprehend and express these feelings of love is a completely different dilemma. |
| In ep2 the MC calls her "special". |
TheBigGuy said: _Dazzle_ said: There are many forms of autism, and I think that the genius girl Shiina Mashiro contains symptoms of autism, specifically, Also, if you look at Shiina being photographed(takes 10 secs to load), her face looks like it is peering into the distance, unfazed and thinking of something else. Like WTF, we know her intelligence is not normal, but the fact that she is 90% devoid of common everyday sense makes me think she is partly autistic. Also, "Some persons with [autism] excel in visual skills, music, math and art."(autismspeaks.org). This adds to the explanation for her talents. However Shiina is so very lucky to have such nice friends who do not take advantage of her and take care of her for FREE because she can barely live by herself and... god forbid is she does, I think she needs a helper for LIFE. What makes you think, that autistics have no common sense? what do you think autism is? |
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Malarkey said: what do you think autism is? I know what autism is, but it seems like you don't respectively you have misconceptions about it. |
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TheBigGuy said: Malarkey said: what do you think autism is? I know what autism is, but it seems like you don't respectively you have misconceptions about it. autism is a mental disability that makes the person infected with it have difficulty expressing their thoughts and emotions and do not see the world around them coherently; of course they would lack common sense |
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Malarkey said: TheBigGuy said: I know what autism is, but it seems like you don't respectively you have misconceptions about it. autism is a mental disability that makes the person infected with it have difficulty expressing their thoughts and emotions and do not see the world around them coherently; of course they would lack common sense 1. Autism isn't a mental disability, some autistics have a normal or above average intelligence. 2. "do not see the world around them coherently". That's an incorrect generilization, since there is a wide spectrum in autism. 3. Autistics have difficulties with vagueness, you have to clearly say what you want/mean, but that is not the same thing as lacking common sense. |
| You're a louse, Roger Smith. - R. Dorothy Wayneright This is my fight! No Senpai, this is our fight! - Kojou Akatsuki & Yukina Himeragi |
| And what do you mean with "world around them"? If you mean other people and emotions, then that is true. If you mean coherences in Science or Math, that is not necessarily true. Like I said, some autistics have a normal or above average intelligence. |
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| As someone with Asperger's syndrome I must say that one aspect of it that Shina shares with me is difficulty with certain food textures. I would say that this is a sign that she is autistic rather then JUST being sheltered. |
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TheBigGuy said: . Autism is more a kin to having a learning disorder. The brain of the person works a bit differently than some so people on the spectrum process information of the world differently in some aspects like texture, sound, visual. I guess some are really smart in one area or more. And for some reason it is harder for people on the spectrum to be socially adept in one way or another.Malarkey said: autism is a mental disability that makes the person infected with it have difficulty expressing their thoughts and emotions and do not see the world around them coherently; of course they would lack common sense 1. Autism isn't a mental disability, some autistics have a normal or above average intelligence. 2. "do not see the world around them coherently". That's an incorrect generilization, since there is a wide spectrum in autism. 3. Autistics have difficulties with vagueness, you have to clearly say what you want/mean, but that is not the same thing as lacking common sense. |
animalia said: TheBigGuy said: Speaking as someone with Autism I can vouch for the acuraccy of said statement.What makes you think, that autistics have no common sense? I agree and I have autism as well. |
_Dazzle_ said: There are many forms of autism, and I think that the genius girl Shiina Mashiro contains symptoms of autism, specifically, Also, if you look at Shiina being photographed(takes 10 secs to load), her face looks like it is peering into the distance, unfazed and thinking of something else. Like WTF, we know her intelligence is not normal, but the fact that she is 90% devoid of common everyday sense makes me think she is partly autistic. Also, "Some persons with [autism] excel in visual skills, music, math and art."(autismspeaks.org). This adds to the explanation for her talents. However Shiina is so very lucky to have such nice friends who do not take advantage of her and take care of her for FREE because she can barely live by herself and... god forbid is she does, I think she needs a helper for LIFE. I have a friend that is autistic but she never had this staring moment you're talking about.... I do approve about the art part as my friend do write and draw often but not at a point where she would be a genius... If they really did make Shiina an autistic character it would be an interesting character development and representation of a person with this illness.... but honestly it would just be a weird overpowered version of autism... And even more autism doesn't affect any motion senses... If she didn't tell I would just think my friend was a normal girl with problem at school.... Autism just make her hard for her to learn another language and sometimes concentrate on small text.... So I will just conclude that personally I don't think that Shiina is an autistic character... I just think they legitimately just made her a simple Kuudere type girl.... And if they did try to make an autistic character.... They completely fucked up and have never seen or speaked to someone who actually sufured from it.... |
| Can people stop discussing about autism and just enjoy her presence in the anime? O_o Bringing up autism just makes me think of her in a bad way, so pls nohate. ......She's not autistic |
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| Yeah, she's full-blown autistic. |
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| As someone with Asperger's syndrome I can say that she seems to fit the pattern. |
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| She has to be autistic. I've already heard this so many times that she seems to be autistic and it kinda makes sense if it comes to her personality. |
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