For Light Novel Fans Who Do Not Like The Adaption

millie10468 said:
I would really love to think we LN readers set too high a bar for the adaptation. I mean, way before it was even decided that there was going to be an anime, we discussed how difficult it would be to translate the information in the novels to the small screen. I realized, at the time, that it was mostly to comfort ourselves since we were not sure we'd ever get an adaptation. Now I realize that we were indeed onto something. It's likely that it's impossible to to fully adapt the LNs. That being said, there are ways in which the anime has screwed up that has made me feel like this adaptation would have fared better in other hands. I'm a biased fan of the LN but even I am not that far gone that I can't notice how crappy the first few volumes were, especially when compared to the current ones. However, if an adaptation has one job, it's to try and accentuate the good parts of the source material while minimizing any flaws... and so far this adaptation has failed in that regards. I can understand not being willing to risk the loss of the fans who are the ones who actually buy the products. It's an undisputable fact that the incest scenes are a big draw for some people. Not showing them at all would have been a mistake, I get that. What I don't understand is why the staff couldn't see how too much of something is bad. Yes, it's in the source material, as heavy-handed as it is. But there was no need to reduce Miyuki, and Tatsuya's for that matter, character to the absolute bare minimum. The incest bits only work because there's substance to the characters, imo, regardless of what people think about Miyuki even in the novels. I'm not ashamed to admit that Miyuki and Tatsuya are my favorite characters in the novels because I find their relationship deeply flawed and creepy and a bit off-putting. So far, the anime has succeeded only at the off-putting aspect and that's definitely not okay.

I wouldn''t be this pissed off if I could feel like some thought had been into it or if I could feel the love behind the production but still got the same product as we have. I would chalk it up to the novels not being conducive for the small screen. However, when I find myself noticing how I would have done it much better in their shoes, it makes me mad, considering I have not an ounce of experience in animation.

Long story short. Madhouse got its hands on the 3rd best selling light novel and figured there was no need to work so hard. With the sales of the source material, the anime would likely sell itself. Madhouse miscalculated and therefore, this is what we have on our hands now. I won't stop watching the anime, the scenes I most wanted to see (the magic scenes) have been animated beautifully so far but my expectations and anticipation have definitely plummeted.

Pain_is_love said:
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True. True. and True.

How do you know Madhouse miscalculated? I think they will still get a big sales out of this. Also, they are focussing more on No Game No Life this season probably, as that is definitely the most successful anime this season.

Pain_is_love said:
]True. True. and True.

How do you know Madhouse miscalculated? I think they will still get a big sales out of this. Also, they are focussing more on No Game No Life this season probably, as that is definitely the most successful anime this season.

Nidhoeggr said:
Actually, I read both the first volume of SAO and Mahouka and while I agree that a lot of the details are not present in the adaption the core problems remain: The weak plot and characters.
Both series are flawed in their core principles. That is - for example - a certain right-wing and nationalconservative morality and ideology the author wants to convey in Mahouka, a clear focus on being a male teenager power fantasy by utilizing a Gary stu as the main character, etc.
Sure, the quality might be better but certain core flaws will always remain because that is just the way these stories were written. Not that you can't enjoy, liek or love such a story - it is just that "better" doesn't necessary mean "good".

Nidhoeggr said:
Harry Potter's first three volumes are way better than all of this LN junk... do not compare them to this, it is insulting.

darkreaperix said:


Then why bother still reading some of them???Kinda insulting calling all ln's junk you know.And you seem to hate ln's why are you also bothering to watch anime based on ln's?So you can keep on bitching/trolling??

Nidhoeggr said:


Because I always try out anything before dismissing it.

Also, I like good LNs. Baccano, Uchouten Kazoku, Jinrui, etc. are all very well written. Sadly, they are only exceptions in an industry that favours adaptions of series that seem to insult intelligence rather than challenging it.

SolviteSekai said:
You are just an average guy who thinks insulting things implies objectivity.

Takuan_Soho said:

But this got me thinking about when people give up hope on something they really wanted to succeed. Think "Return of the Jedi" for the Star Wars series (or "Phantom Menace" for others).

Now, for those who like the adaption, please don't take this as a slight, people's tastes differ. But there have been enough LN Readers who have expressed disappointment that I would like to hear their opinions on the general topic.

Deiger1111 said:
Seeing all the hype about the LNs, I tried reading the first five volumes on BakaTsuki, and I honestly don't know where all the LN praise is coming from. Except for an excess of pseudo science and info dump, the novels doesn't seem to be anything ground breaking or even better than the adaptation. Its still self-insert genius mc who has more secret identities than Kirito has girls. Like someone said before, the core flaws are present in the very premise of the show, regardless of how much better the LNs maybe(I don't see how the LNs are better, but whatever), the major gripes I have with the anime are very much present in the first 5 volumes of Ln too, and much more pseudo science babble.

Should I drop or is the reason for hype yet to come?