Sidonia no Kishi Episode 9 Discussion

SleepingEntity said:
See? A much better, more human Kunato appears! Now why couldn't he be more like that from the beginning?

This show is a bit too slow paced, especially given it's only 13 episodes. It feels more sci-fi mystery than action if anything. I'm also not really getting a sense of "desperation and despair" from Sidonia, seeing as how they're letting people settle on planets and so forth. Hopefully when (if?) they reach the hive, things will start picking up.

Kuro_Yuuki said:


lol yeah, no kidding. That thing seems like it's cursed at this point. Any of the couples or potential couples that have been in it before a battle so far have been torn apart.

L-Ryoshi said:


Say what? a more human Kunato? Where? Where? I don't see any... must be your imagination....

All i see is a broken man who decided to take a leave of absence so his stock doesn't plummet any further within the Cadet Corps. Haunted by nightmares that he himself is responsible for doesn't make him any more human than when he told Tanikaze via private channel to fuck up that Gauna mission and got Hoshijirou killed.

Reite said:
One would think she'd make Nagate able to photosynthesize too... Maybe there's a post-natal treatment required too, but it's been suggested photosynthesis is a genetic modification.

nina4life said:
1. Tanikaze is a hero again. Well deserved. I don't see how it makes sense to put him as squad leader when that ex-XO would be more experienced, but that's minor complain.

Fai said:

Not really since Nagate had to be identical to Hiro, otherwise what's the point.

sadfacelv said:
And what does " genetically immortal" mean? Can he die from hunger for example?;

Reite said:
Well, they already modified him (he's genetically immortal - Hiro wasn't), and I doubt that ability to photosynthesize would drastically change his character or aptitude.

sadfacelv said:
Can he die from hunger for example?;

Onuma said:

He needs to consume a normal daily basis of food to be able to maintain his extended metabolism / fast healing ability.

ex_necross said:
Do we know how many episodes this is? If it's 13, I don't know how in the hell it is going to possibly conclude in just 4 more episodes.

And no I haven't read the manga, but it just seems like we are only now starting to get into the plot for this season, and if the 13 episode count is correct, it's going to be either a huge cliffhanger or a terribly rushed unsatisfying ending.

Here's hoping for a season 2.

Vooo said:
Kunato..a villain you love to hate and frustrates you because it seems like they let him be a villain with no repercussions.

sadfacelv said:
And what does " genetically immortal" mean? Can he die from hunger for example?;

Fai said:

Get your waifu otaku glasses off.

catullus said:


Well if you take the medicine you dont age and you heal from wounds super fast including wounds that would kill you normally.

Obviously there are limits but it basically means under normal circumstances you wont age or die.

takayi said:
God damn if Nagate is going to release that tentacle babe, I hope he's not that stupid though.

Fai said:


Oh look a otaku weebo waifu defense force has arrived!~

And now apparently displaying human emotions and regret over your actions does not make you more human~

You learn new things on MAL every day.

L-Ryoshi said:


Oh look, a real life presumptuous asshole with no decent points nor redeeming qualities has appeared.

For the record, I don't even use weebo or whatever you crazy obsessive Chinese fans use. I just tell it like I see it. What emotion has he displayed besides absolute terror at having a Gauna resembling a victim of his come after him. Regret? Contrition? I think not. All he has done this far is become scared that someone or something will come wipe his sorry little arse off the face of Sidonia just because his selfish, destructive actions caused the demise of many many teammates. Does he have nightmares about any of the other cadets whose deaths he's caused? No, only Hoshijirou. Why? Simple, because he perceives the Gauna Hoshijirou as a very real threat to his existence.
Just because you feel fear makes you a human being now? Wow, where did that logic come from? I guess all animals that feel fear are also categorized as humans in your book then.

The man has not been remorseful in the least about what he's done. He took a leave of absence from the Cadet Corps or whatever the he'll they call it because he feared for his own life. If there wasn't the threat on his life by the very real presence of the Hoshijirou Gauna, you can bet your arse he would still be out there making Tanikaze's life a living hell. In the end he is just a selfish coward who turned tail at the very inkling of a perceived threat to his own well being. Displays of regret? Has he cried himself to sleep or even tried to make up for what he's done? I haven't seen any action of the sort thus far, and I'm pretty sure no one else watching the show has either (bar you of course, since you are arguing the point). To state otherwise is to ignore all the signs put out there by the anime.

As for the attitude you show here on the forums, just makes me think that you are a bully in real life, which is why you can sympathize so vehemently with Kunatos character, to the point of openly insulting the first commenter that disagrees with you.

I won't even bother talking with you from this post forward regarding Sidonia, because seriously it's no fun making intelligible discussions with a halfwit who gets riled up so easily to the point of insulting real people just because people don't like his favorite character. I tell things like I see them, and that's my opinion. So if you can't deal with anyone's opinion other than your own, well just suck it because that's life.

So good day and good riddance.

ex_necross said:

-snip-
I just love when people start off calling someone an asshole... by being an asshole. xD

Magebane said:
L-Ryoshi: Things never are black or white, this includes all media (and characters within) that aren't straight out bad or meant for little children.

While your (or Fai's) interpretation might be correct, as of yet we don't have enough information to really know. Still, it doesn't seem to me that he is such a one-sided character you claim him to be. Nobody does "evil" or "bad" things for no reason and mustache twirling maniacal bad guys are totally trite.

It seems that meeting what Hoshijiro has become really shook Kunato, so much he couldn't go on. Even if it was simply out of fear for his own life (which I doubt), that itself makes him more human-like, and perhaps more relatable, as unsympathetic as he has been this far.

Also, answering a slightly insulting joke with a bunch of direct personal attacks isn't really in good taste. Nor is it going to win you any debates, if that is something you care about more than politeness.

SimmianPrime said:
I get the feeling they just skipped a whole bunch of stuff from the manga, am I right?

SimmianPrime said:
I get the feeling they just skipped a whole bunch of stuff from the manga, am I right?

Marzan said:
Was I the only one who loved the montage scene when Tanikaze was made squad leader? It had a delightful mix of action and tongue in cheek in humor while showing Tanikaze's unhealthy interest in Benisuzume. The music they used was killer too.

Reite said:
Okay, an unrelated question: has this one blond feminine-looking person from Samari's squad (on the right in the last group photo, in front of Honoka) any significance in the manga?

Reite said:
I'm asking because their body model seems to be the same as Izana's, so they can be another third-gender person (since all the females appear to have one body model).

Reite said:
Izana said the third-gender is not an uncommon occurence, and yet the vendor in the previous episode was surprised at them not being a girl. And in the background shots there are no intersex people.

SleepingEntity said:
Well, my post seemed to have incited a bit of flaming, I see.

To clarify, my mention of "human" Kunato had absolutely nothing to do with his possible regret or moping. I couldn't care less. I was referring to the part when he was looking at Ochiai and thinking. For once, Kunate's character could not be described by "I hate Tanikaze and want to screw him up, even at the cost of Sidonia". That's clearly character progression for me. Not much, mind you, but when you're starting from the bottom of the barrel, anything is an improvement.

In any case, I hope he continues to show that he can actually think beyond the scope of a typical manga-villain. If his plans involving Ochiai are just more revenge and one-upping everyone, that will certainly be a step backwards.

I want to see Kunato develop into a respectable character (from an audience POV). That doesn't mean he has to be good, or make up and buddy-buddy with everyone. They can hate him and he can hate them for all I care. But he needs more depth. Not just "I really hate everyone so I'm going to screw them over". The best stories are where a viewer can have a reason to like any character, even the "bad" ones like Kunato (Take Fate/Zero: some of the characters were assholes. But there's no character where I'd be taken aback if you told me they were your favourite and most interesting - now that's good characterisation).

Reite said:
Okay, an unrelated question: has this one blond feminine-looking person from Samari's squad (on the right in the last group photo, in front of Honoka) any significance in the manga?
I'm asking because their body model seems to be the same as Izana's, so they can be another third-gender person (since all the females appear to have one body model).
Izana said the third-gender is not an uncommon occurence, and yet the vendor in the previous episode was surprised at them not being a girl. And in the background shots there are no intersex people. I wonder if it's an oversight on the animators' part. Like in Attack on Titan, where all the filler soldiers were male, since someone apparently forgot there was another option in the AoT military.

ataxia_ said:
Also, nagate watching hoshijiro placenta thing reminds me of shinji and rei.