opondica said: jal90 said: It kind of bugs me that good characters are inequivocally associated with strong will. I admire many characters for their will if that's the question. But when it comes to having a favorite, there has to be a level of emotional attachment. Rather than admiring a female character as a role model, being able to see and feel through her. Mima from Perfect Blue is the epitome of a weak and influentiable personality; she is, as well, a hell of a character and her introspective ride, one of the most fascinating emotional experiences in anime. That's the thing, though. So many people want fictional characters to be role models or to serve as standards for how they should act. On the one hand, I get it - there are characters I've seen in anime who certainly I look up to and who I might want to model some aspect of my life after. But on the other hand, you can learn as much (if not more) from someone who is a complete failure and who you would never want to emulate as you can from someone. Personally I find the strongest influences stories have had on me is by virtue of what I rejected, rather than what I looked up to, in them. DragonQuest3 said: jal90 said: Well I agree with youI think a strong willed character is best if you can feel attachment to her, and weak characters can be good too. Perhaps I was too hasty I just want to give credit to well developed women instead of cookie cutters and waifu fantasy Moe blobs. Im no master of vocabulary.It kind of bugs me that good characters are inequivocally associated with strong will. I admire many characters for their will if that's the question. But when it comes to having a favorite, there has to be a level of emotional attachment. Rather than admiring a female character as a role model, being able to see and feel through her. Mima from Perfect Blue is the epitome of a weak and influentiable personality; she is, as well, a hell of a character and her introspective ride, one of the most fascinating emotional experiences in anime. I'm starting to get skeptical that you're having any sort of serious discussion as opposed to attempting to pull the chains of fans of moe. I'll assume for now that you're serious. I looked at your anime list and you don't seem to actually have watched any full-on moe anime. Perhaps after sleeping through two seasons and one movie of K-On, you can come back and explain to me why the only reason I could possibly like any of the characters is because they're waifu fantasy moe blobs who are weak of will and poorly developed. Ughh why does it seem like everyone wants to start an argument over nothing? Im not trying to start a fight with Moe fans or even suggest Moe girls can't be good characters but a lot of guys here have a very shallow and rather sexist idea of what a good female character is. I don't think female characters are treated with the same dignity male characters are in anime. They are more often cookie cutter or fan service. Much of the time they are shallow and lack death which I find to be a sad fact. |
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AnimeKazegake said: AnimeSweden said: AnimeKazegake said: Mikasa Ackerman from Attack On Titan : she is strong-useful and got abs too. http://www.nautiljon.com/images/perso/00/51/mikasa_ackerman_9415.jpg?0 That right there has to be the most shallow reasoning I've ever seen XD lol And I forget she got a good personality too she is brave and loyal to her comrade. Haha that's better ;) |
CursedDanger said: Wanting to stick your dick in them =/= good. The thread's about the best female character, not your waifu. JustALEX said: If I didn't know any better I'd say you were two timing MokaThe very question is malformed. To imply that people should even get to voice an opinion on something which is objectively known to be true is quite comical. It's Momo, and all of you can now get on your knees and beg for forgiveness....naturally since Momo is perfect, you will be forgiven, but not before a harsh BUT fair penalty. More or less your first line sums up what I really meant to say :/ |
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| Abriel Lafiel from Seikai Monshou. She's aggressive and a capable military leader.Her character development, facilitated by interacting with Jinto and the events that unfolded before her ,allowed her to break out of that stereotypical stoic Abh mold. It was strangely rewarding to watch :X. Erin from Souja no Erin. Following her trials and tribulations in becoming a beastinarian from infancy to adulthood was very satisfying (particularly the development and setbacks of a tenuous relationship between herself and Lilan). |
| Taiga Aisaka. She actually has real character growth, and quite a lot of it. |
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| pfff ..... Yuno Gasai .....why not? |
JD2411 said: Welcome to any forum and 99% of all the threads on them? On topic Rei because she is top dandere. Answering this question is almost idiotic since it is entirely subjective |
CursedDangerMay 30, 2014 6:06 PM
| how i r8 1- crpy animee no gud 10- gud aniem, dep plot, lots of cute grls |
| Isuke Inukai is everything I want in a woman. |
Ayaka Kagari from Witch Craft Works.
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| The OP was great, then I saw Erza, Homura, and "post your waifu". Well, it was fun for the 10 seconds it lasted. |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: Erza lacks character development but wouldn't you say she has good or at least average characterization?The OP was great, then I saw Erza, Homura, and "post your waifu". Well, it was fun for the 10 seconds it lasted. |
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parfaited said: Natsu is bad but Juvi - chan and Erza are good because I say so.All Fairy Tail characters are bad. Lock this thread. |
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| Basically every female character in my favorites qualifies. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
parfaited said: Being infatuated with Gray does not = being a gag characterJuvi-chan...as in Juvia is good character? Juvia who was reduced down to a gag character only now serves to clings onto ~Gray-sama~ 95% of the time? She so funny when she does that, so much comedy! Yeah no. |
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DragonQuest3 said: Ughh why does it seem like everyone wants to start an argument over nothing? Im not trying to start a fight with Moe fans or even suggest Moe girls can't be good characters but a lot of guys here have a very shallow and rather sexist idea of what a good female character is. I don't think female characters are treated with the same dignity male characters are in anime. They are more often cookie cutter or fan service. Much of the time they are shallow and lack death which I find to be a sad fact. Fair enough. I'm not so much trying to start an argument as I was trying to figure out whether the conclusions I had drawn based on what you'd said were correct. And it seems as though they weren't based on what you've just said. I'll be honest though: I think it's quite likely that the "shallowness" is something that's based on your perception rather than on reality. There are plenty of characters I've seen in anime that I don't see much depth in, yet other people will mention them and explain how they actually see something in this character that I didn't see. Take Nisekoi for example: I don't like Chitoge, the Tsundere character, (although I don't think she is any more or less shallow than any of the other characters so it's not a perfect comparison) and I sympathized with Onodera, the shy character. Yet in one of the threads about this show someone else pointed out how they felt the opposite because of their different personal experiences. As for whether or not "a lot" of guys have a "shallow and sexist" view of female characters: If there were a lot of people saying "so and so is the best female character because she has a nice ass" I might agree with you. I haven't seen much of that in this thread - some people have given it as the sole reason, some have mentioned it as one reason among many (and taking issue with that is about as silly as taking issue with someone saying "x is the greatest anime because it has an amazing story, characters, and visuals"), and plenty of people (myself included) have not mentioned it at all. I don't want you to take this as implying that you ARE doing it because I have no idea whether you are or not, but I hope you're not assuming the people who just give a character's name with no explanation all like that character for shallow or 'sexist' reasons. Which brings me to my other point. Go to a thread about Free! Go to a thread about an otome game adaptation, or to a forum that discusses otome games. There's plenty of discussion about which guy is sexiest. And there's almost no discussion about whether or not looking at guys and wondering who's sexy and who isn't is sexist or shallow. At least, that is the case in my experience, and yes I have visited places where there is discussion about who the sexiest girl is and where there is discussion about who the sexiest guy is. I don't think anime in general treats either male or female characters with a particularly lower level of dignity, although that's obviously qualified by the fact that each anime is different and I haven't seen every anime in the world. I do think people have different expectations for how men and women should be treated. Sometimes this comes across in the stories they write, in which case, yes, you may well get an anime that doesn't treat female characters with the same 'dignity' (whatever that means) as male ones. Sometimes it comes across in how they react to the stories others have written, which means that people will sometimes see what they expect to see. If you watch moeshit and you think it's shit, maybe you end up complaining about how it's sexist when you wouldn't have made that complaint if it had been the exact same show only with all or almost all guys, or if it had been a (for example) dark and gritty drama that catered to your tastes more. |
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| Saber. Why? Cuz she is my waifu, why else? |
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| I'm surprised no one said "Girl from AAST" OnT: Girl from AAST |
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| Gasai Yuno from Mirai Nikki. She's such a depthful character, at a quick glance she is just an invencible lunatic yandere with shit personality and traits, as if the writers weren't even trying to create something decent, but at a closer inspection it is possible to examine how a thought-provoking and complex character she actually is. |
MomonoMay 30, 2014 7:38 PM
| All the ones I have listed on my profile's "about me" section. The reasons I appreciate their presence in their respective titles varies. |
| Salmon is delicious. |
| Haruhi Suzumiya if Manga counts, Alpha Hatsuseno. |
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| The ones I liked the most obviously. In all seriousness, it's just subjective. |
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| Posting it again because I feel she deserves the recognition: KAGURA from Gintama! Reason why doesn't matter because it's subjective as fu** and no one really cares anyways :D (It's 05:49 I should really go to bed..) |
| I've always thought Faye Valentine was a great female character. She feels more organic than most other female characters. |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svpejQ1I7Z0 ^^^This is all of you people t(^-^t) |
ThisNameSucks said: The ones I liked the most obviously. In all seriousness, it's just subjective. that's kind of the point... |
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| Thread Cleaned. Swept the listing posts. Remember to state why you choose that certain character, or at least, try to discuss some people's choices. |
ThisNameSucks said: Omg best is subjective? I had no idea!The ones I liked the most obviously. In all seriousness, it's just subjective. |
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| Makise Kurisu Smart, Beautiful and Tsun |
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| Shiro from No game no life. She is so smart and cute ofc. |
| I love Math equations and 2D, so deal with it. |
DrGeroCreation said: parfaited said: Being infatuated with Gray does not = being a gag characterJuvi-chan...as in Juvia is good character? Juvia who was reduced down to a gag character only now serves to clings onto ~Gray-sama~ 95% of the time? She so funny when she does that, so much comedy! Yeah no. that's basically all her character is |
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| Ryuuko for me :3 |
| Watashi from Jinrui you can hardly find a character like her, let alone female :) |
| Erin from Kemono no Souja Erin is easily one of my favorite female leads in anime. Very well-developed character whom we see grow from a curious, studious child to a sophisticated, headstrong young adult. I'll also mention Balsa Yonsa from Seirei no Moribito just because of freshness of concept. A middle-aged spear fighter who actually looks the part? |
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| Well, I guess it depends on subjective thoughts. I agree with you about Oscar and also with users quoting Motoko, Hana and Balsa as well, but you must consider this is our point of view, meaning that “best” female character for me means an : indipendent, strong willed woman; a person who have already faced the harsh part of life, but managed to deal with it. But this includes also pretty normal girls with no skills other than their determination. So, my choice will defenitely be : Balalaika. She's a war veteran (to which still bears the marks, having burn scars through all her right side of face and part of her body); she's the leader of a russian criminal organisation known as Hotel Moscow, composed of other war veteran soldiers, her companions during the Afghanistan war, who decided to follow her after she was dismissed for having saved the life of a child of the opposite faction. She's a skilled fighter and strategist, gaining the respect of all other criminal organisations in Roanapur. She's a natural leader, still being called “captain” by the members of her organisation, who also are the only people she cares about. She's a sort of heroic-villain, who search an honorable death for herself and her men. |
Fuusuke said: Makise Kurisu Smart, Beautiful and Tsun Seconded. |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
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