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May 29, 2014 5:37 AM

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Men who have fantasies of being dominated are usually herbivores. And the more civilized a society becomes, the higher their number seems to rise. It's no wonder that Japan, the most civilized country on earth, is leading the way into a herbivore future.


How have you made the distinction between giving up power to someone because it gives them release from responsibility for a while. And eating exclusively Vegetables?

A lot of the guys I meet are NOT vegetarian.


Haha what the hell? There is no correlation between this and vegetarianism at all. It follows the same logic present in the misconception that men who don't eat meat cannot be as physically strong. And by logic, I mean an opinion based on a complete lack of knowledge.
 
May 29, 2014 5:43 AM

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Implying the dudes on this website can choose between different women.
 
May 29, 2014 5:46 AM

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People are just attracted to a specific type. I've seen submissive/dominant types in both sexes. I can see why people would like both, they both have their appeal.
 
May 29, 2014 5:51 AM

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Implying the dudes on this website can choose between different women.
I did.
[a]But i choose you.
 
May 29, 2014 5:55 AM

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MitchD said:
Elphe said:
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Men who have fantasies of being dominated are usually herbivores. And the more civilized a society becomes, the higher their number seems to rise. It's no wonder that Japan, the most civilized country on earth, is leading the way into a herbivore future.


How have you made the distinction between giving up power to someone because it gives them release from responsibility for a while. And eating exclusively Vegetables?

A lot of the guys I meet are NOT vegetarian.


Haha what the hell? There is no correlation between this and vegetarianism at all. It follows the same logic present in the misconception that men who don't eat meat cannot be as physically strong. And by logic, I mean an opinion based on a complete lack of knowledge.


You realize that she was trolling, right?

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May 29, 2014 6:00 AM

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It's just more convenient really. Of course I have no problem with dominant women either unless they are control freaks.
 
May 29, 2014 6:16 AM

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I don't mind either option.
As long as we are equals and there is respect in the relationship everything is cool.
 
May 29, 2014 6:27 AM

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Mankind as a whole seeks dominion, this isn't just limited to men. The problem is many seek to dominate others and that's what leads to the attraction to those they can conquer.

Women who are too submissive/timid tend to turn me off. I want to be with someone who can think for herself but at the same time doesn't cause me unnecessary problems aka control freaks.
 
May 29, 2014 9:34 AM

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Because shit like this:
Wintour said:
if you're man enough to admit it
socially conditions men and boys to place their entire self-worth on how much of a "man" they are, and indoctrinates them to feel the need to be dominant in every situation in their life, no matter how detrimental it may be to themselves or the people around them, or else they're not a "real man", and thus worthless.
 
May 29, 2014 9:41 AM

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Males like to feel like an "Alpha", even if they aren't.
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May 29, 2014 10:18 AM

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Red_Keys said:
Because shit like this:
Wintour said:
if you're man enough to admit it
socially conditions men and boys to place their entire self-worth on how much of a "man" they are, and indoctrinates them to feel the need to be dominant in every situation in their life, no matter how detrimental it may be to themselves or the people around them, or else they're not a "real man", and thus worthless.


I think its human instinct to be dominant and be it man or woman, if they like to have no control over their life and somebody else to decide it something is wrong with them.

I mean the whole idea of domination is to impose your will on others. If you dont, then your will isnt done and as a logical conclusion if you cant do what you want to do how can you be happy? So yeah I honestly cant understand submissive people that take pleasure in being submissive (we arent talking sexually here). Your basically taking pleasure in having your freedom and will taken.

I honestly think that most submissive people dont like being so, but have just silently accepted their fate.
 
May 29, 2014 10:28 AM

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It's called the order of nature.

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May 29, 2014 10:34 AM

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I don't particularly find submissive women attractive. What fun is there if she'll agree with most things I say or do just to make me happy? I would probably enjoy the company of a dominant, independent woman more. I'm a pretty chill dude and have been for awhile, I don't mind joining others in doing stuff if it looks interesting. I also don't have that many hobbies, so there isn't much I rather do.

This said I like there to be respect and understanding on both ends. If there is something I don't want to do I want her to stop asking and teasing me about it. Likewise if I feel there is something she absolutely doesn't want I'll stop. As for in the bedroom it would be a mix. We could go back and forth, or allow full control, taking turns.

Though if she was particularly into dominance in the bedroom I might allow her full control more often. I get aroused the more my partner gets aroused, so guess I'm submissive in a way. In the end I guess I like a bit of both, though understanding and respect is key.
 
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i like my women to have some sort of control in bed, op.
 
May 29, 2014 11:13 AM

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i like my women to have some sort of control in bed, op.
birth control?
 
May 29, 2014 11:14 AM
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zoknimano said:
Heredity said:
i like my women to have some sort of control in bed, op.
birth control?
and that too.
 
May 29, 2014 11:24 AM

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Soren333 said:
It's called the order of nature.
In this day and age we call it the order of bullshit.

OnT : plausible reasons have already been given so not much else to add, but funnily enough the majority of men I've met admitted being more attracted to assertive or even dominant women than submissive ones.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
May 29, 2014 11:29 AM

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I find dominant woman very attractive :P
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May 29, 2014 11:30 AM

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The most likely answer is that it is ingrained in our culture, with boundaries on the fetish being outlined by genetics that makes it happen.
 
May 29, 2014 11:40 AM

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Submissive women warm the heart better when you hold their hand or hug them, granted there are some rare exceptions (my best friend is dominate but is super lovable and she'll love you back and I've known a painfully shy chick that reacted in a hostile way to being hugged).


 
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I don't care. Either is fine in bed.

I am fine with either role myself :>
 
May 29, 2014 11:44 AM

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Because you need to keep the pimp hand strong.
 
May 29, 2014 2:35 PM

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Wintour said:

So why? What's so appealing about a woman being submissive to you? Or, if you're man enough to admit it, do you find pleasurable being with a woman having her way with you, inside and outside the bedroom?

Which dynamic do you find ideal for you? Why?

I was curious about this early on in my adult life too. Asking my ex boyfriend and a few guy friends on why exactly it was a turn on gave me this answer: control, and power over someone else is hot. Dominating them and being forceful, in charge. Speaking as a woman who likes submissive women, I do enjoy these aspects but only sexually and only if my partner is into it.
 
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I honestly change my mood a lot, sometimes I like being dominated and sometimes I like being dominant. I probably like being dominated more though in a femdom-fashion since I'm basically dominant all the fucking time.
 
May 29, 2014 3:07 PM

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You can do whatever you want to them in bed. What's not to like about that?
 
May 29, 2014 4:19 PM

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Easier to manipulate, just ask Charles Manson.
 
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May 29, 2014 5:02 PM

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depends on how submissive you mean? women who can't do any thing for themselves are the worst. what i look for in a woman certainly isn't one who needs to be baby sat.

I prefer women who don't need me, but want me. Im don't want to have to boss around a partner and i don't want a partner that is going to boss me around.
 
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depends on how submissive you mean? women who can't do any thing for themselves are the worst. what i look for in a woman certainly isn't one who needs to be baby sat.

I prefer women who don't need me, but want me. Im don't want to have to boss around a partner and i don't want a partner that is going to boss me around.


Submissive doesnt mean incapable tough. It just means she wont boss you around and will not oppose your actions. For example If I wanted to go play football with friends at a certain time she wouldnt be against it because she had planned to cuddle with me or something like that. A submissive woman would be okay with it and wait for another occasion to do what she wants. So yeah that is really convenient, altough I probably could never be like that.
 
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Submissive doesnt mean incapable tough. It just means she wont boss you around and will not oppose your actions. For example If I wanted to go play football with friends at a certain time she wouldnt be against it because she had planned to cuddle with me or something like that. A submissive woman would be okay with it and wait for another occasion to do what she wants. So yeah that is really convenient, altough I probably could never be like that.

I think you're the one confused about what submissive means, tho. The example you've given is someone simply being accomodating, not submissive. There's like a rainbow between the two.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
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Cuz they're not bitchy bitches that bitch like a bitch about everything.
 
May 29, 2014 5:22 PM

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I'm not exactly sure if I'd say I prefer submissive women, but I do know I am not attracted to women who are overly aggressive and dominant. I have encountered several of those kinds of women (including my mom, to a certain degree). We tend to fight and argue a lot, to the point where I find it tiring to deal with them.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
 
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baki502 said:
Red_Keys said:
Because shit like this:
Wintour said:
if you're man enough to admit it
socially conditions men and boys to place their entire self-worth on how much of a "man" they are, and indoctrinates them to feel the need to be dominant in every situation in their life, no matter how detrimental it may be to themselves or the people around them, or else they're not a "real man", and thus worthless.


I think its human instinct to be dominant and be it man or woman, if they like to have no control over their life and somebody else to decide it something is wrong with them.

I mean the whole idea of domination is to impose your will on others. If you dont, then your will isnt done and as a logical conclusion if you cant do what you want to do how can you be happy? So yeah I honestly cant understand submissive people that take pleasure in being submissive (we arent talking sexually here). Your basically taking pleasure in having your freedom and will taken.

I honestly think that most submissive people dont like being so, but have just silently accepted their fate.

Indeed. Even if you naturally timid and a pushover or what have you, even if you are Shinji Ikari, there's a high chance you want to be an Adam Blade.
 
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I only like 2d women

any 3d woman seems like more trouble than it's worth
 
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Submissive doesnt mean incapable tough. It just means she wont boss you around and will not oppose your actions. For example If I wanted to go play football with friends at a certain time she wouldnt be against it because she had planned to cuddle with me or something like that. A submissive woman would be okay with it and wait for another occasion to do what she wants. So yeah that is really convenient, altough I probably could never be like that.

I think you're the one confused about what submissive means, tho. The example you've given is someone simply being accomodating, not submissive. There's like a rainbow between the two.


Isnt that just another word for the same thing tough? She is submitting (is that the right word) her will to mine, so in a way it is her being submissive.
 
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Isnt that just another word for the same thing tough? She is submitting (is that the right word) her will to mine, so in a way it is her being submissive.


Isn't you submitting to her will to submit to you submitting?


Im not submitting to her will to submit to me, I am mercifully accepting it.
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Less shit to deal with.
 
May 29, 2014 5:58 PM

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why do gender roles
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Every one must fuck an obedient bitch once and a while.
 
May 29, 2014 6:17 PM
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Not for me. I'd prefer her to have some semblance of spunk or at some wit about her.

I find submissive women to be uninteresting and they get boring pretty quickly. Now if it's just an act, then sure, I'm okay with that. It doesn't matter anyway because I'm just dominant by nature.

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Submissive women who let you take advantage of them are just lame. There's no effort, no journey to it at all.

 
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I dont like women that are submissive. Girls like that seem to only want the dick, and not guy himself. I want to work to get the girl of my dreams.
 
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Not for me. I'd prefer her to have some semblance of spunk or at some wit about her.

I find submissive women to be uninteresting and they get boring pretty quickly. Now if it's just an act, then sure, I'm okay with that. It doesn't matter anyway because I'm just dominant by nature.

^

Submissive women who let you take advantage of them are just lame. There's no effort, no journey to it at all.



Talks abotu challenge and says he likes to be submissive and dominated...
Its not a challenge if you dont take it on, it would be a challenge if you tried being the dominating one while having a dominating gf.
 
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Never thought about it before, just makes me really horny?
 
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baki502 said:
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Not for me. I'd prefer her to have some semblance of spunk or at some wit about her.

I find submissive women to be uninteresting and they get boring pretty quickly. Now if it's just an act, then sure, I'm okay with that. It doesn't matter anyway because I'm just dominant by nature.

^

Submissive women who let you take advantage of them are just lame. There's no effort, no journey to it at all.



Talks abotu challenge and says he likes to be submissive and dominated...
Its not a challenge if you dont take it on, it would be a challenge if you tried being the dominating one while having a dominating gf.

It is a challenge because one has to endure and embrace it, whilst being the dominating one is just for free.
 
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Isnt that just another word for the same thing tough? She is submitting (is that the right word) her will to mine, so in a way it is her being submissive.

Yeah, not really.
Yes, in a sense she's 'submitting' her will to yours, but the problem is labelling it an example of submissive behavior is that it leaves absolutely no place for a grey area: if she's bitching she's dominant, if she doesn't she's submissive. Yet you can be accomodating or considerate without being submissive (obedience and passivity being the main features of that type of personality).
Due to their nature submissive peeps will usually be conciliating as well, but the reverse ain't necessarily true.

edit: mirglof said it better than I, the situation in your example is as neutral as it gets.
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And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
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baki502 said:
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Because shit like this:
Wintour said:
if you're man enough to admit it
socially conditions men and boys to place their entire self-worth on how much of a "man" they are, and indoctrinates them to feel the need to be dominant in every situation in their life, no matter how detrimental it may be to themselves or the people around them, or else they're not a "real man", and thus worthless.


I think its human instinct to be dominant and be it man or woman, if they like to have no control over their life and somebody else to decide it something is wrong with them.

I mean the whole idea of domination is to impose your will on others. If you dont, then your will isnt done and as a logical conclusion if you cant do what you want to do how can you be happy? So yeah I honestly cant understand submissive people that take pleasure in being submissive (we arent talking sexually here). Your basically taking pleasure in having your freedom and will taken.

I honestly think that most submissive people dont like being so, but have just silently accepted their fate.
I disagree.

If this were true, I doubt organized government would be a thing. People always want somebody else to tell them what to do.

It's reassuring, and absolves them of responsibility if things don't turn out well.

Certain individuals have a higher drive for obtaining power than other individuals. Just like wolves have an alpha and so on and so forth; humans have varying levels of ego and the desire to be controlling. Some people like somebody to be dependent on.
 
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Isnt that just another word for the same thing tough? She is submitting (is that the right word) her will to mine, so in a way it is her being submissive.


it isn't though, not in your example. that is you just being you. she isn't controlling you, and you aren't controlling her. that is a totally neutral situation.

although i can see how you'd be confused by this, these days most guys have to get permission from their girlfriend/wife to do any thing.

which is why i have terrible luck dating women, they all expect that i will obey every little thing they tell me just because they think all i want is sex.

If i want to go hang out with my friends then i will do so, im an adult and don't need permission to do so. like wise i wouldn't complain if a S/O wanted to do the same.

and never mind that i don't have any friends, totally irrelevant :P
 
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I don't know why. As for me I'm more attracted to women who are spunky and don't act like some little kid. GUess that's why I always end up liking the tsunderes and the tough characters.

That being said I still like my girls girly, if she acts like a man in all possible ways that's just gross to me.
 
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on the contrary i get tired of being the dominant one

(in all aspects) therefore i do not mind being submissive every now and then, or very often

for others i guess its because who doesn't want a partner that adheres to everything they want



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Depends what you mean by submissive and in what context.
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