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May 28, 2014 10:37 AM

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I'm curious about what will happen next..

 
May 28, 2014 10:41 AM

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God, I want a transcript of that scene. There were five things he said:


That is why I said this is damn fine writing. Very nice word play.


Actually, you can hear it nice and clear, that he says "orera wa", and right after that comes the interference. (just listened to that part 5 times to make sure my mind isn't going nuts on me)

 
May 28, 2014 10:42 AM

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The ending suggested one thing.
There where not waiting on the game anymore they where already part of the game.
Which suggests the technology of the Warbeasts is more advanced that that of us thing is how are they going to solve this game.
And who are their opponents.
We know the old men and his granddaughter are two of his opponents but we don't know about the other two.
 
May 28, 2014 10:45 AM

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Ah Shit the Epilogue wasn't expected and what they did to the ED without Sora was too awesome move.. It's EPIC!!!

Poor Shiro she's all alone now her Onii-chan was not by her side now... And Sora had like "Take her Soul Away" with him... She really should be gotta strong now... Damn it!!! Can't for the next episode next week!!!

If someone still are confuse just like me... I'll make guess on what happened... And P.S. I don't have read the LN or Manga yet.


Before he left he said he needed to go get something in order to win against the eastern federation, we still don't know what that was yet
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May 28, 2014 10:49 AM

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What just happened lol?
 
May 28, 2014 10:51 AM

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Shiro's imitating Conan's Ah le le? :)) So cute...

BUT. OMG the Ending... Can't wait for the next episode...
 
May 28, 2014 10:51 AM
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Lmfao at the part where sora was acting like an old man when Izuna was introduced. So many references this episode.
 
May 28, 2014 10:53 AM
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Sora turned into the sky. It is the only explanation.
 
May 28, 2014 10:55 AM

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Eeeh wonder what happened oO

It was a very funny episode though xD
 
May 28, 2014 10:56 AM
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Actually, you can hear it nice and clear, that he says "orera wa", and right after that comes the interference. (just listened to that part 5 times to make sure my mind isn't going nuts on me)


If you read the novels and know for a fact what was said, ignore me!

But I have a strong feeling that interference was put there at that exact moment to trick us into what was actually said. While I agree that it does sound as if "wa" was said, that could have been a trick of the ears due to the sound of the distortion merging into the syllable he said changing the "ra" to "wa".

I have an extremely high opinion of Japanese sound directors, this is something they could easily do something like this. Japanese as a language loves to change syllables based on sound, so this is something that they would play with.

Plus, I think that it helps that the writer is not a Japanese native. Having had to be able to learn to hear the difference between these words (which I freely admit is my weakness in Japanese) he would probably have more "top of mind awareness" of these quirks. For native Japanese hearing it would be completely natural.

Oh well, I could be wrong, but that is what makes watching shows like this so much fun, you really have to think about it, but in doing so one can overthink as well.
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May 28, 2014 11:04 AM

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great ep and holy cow that ED
i cant wait a week for the next ep i want the ep now

and i dont want to read the LN i dont want spoilers D:
 
May 28, 2014 11:06 AM

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That was a hilarious and badass episode. That Yu_Gi-Oh reference >.>
And Sora existence seems to have disappeared? Can't wait for the next episode.
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May 28, 2014 11:12 AM

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Takuan_Soho said:
GreenDrag said:
Actually, you can hear it nice and clear, that he says "orera wa", and right after that comes the interference. (just listened to that part 5 times to make sure my mind isn't going nuts on me)


If you read the novels and know for a fact what was said, ignore me!

But I have a strong feeling that interference was put there at that exact moment to trick us into what was actually said. While I agree that it does sound as if "wa" was said, that could have been a trick of the ears due to the should of the distortion merging into the syllable he said changing the "ra" to "wa".

I have an extremely high opinion of Japanese sound directors, this is something they could easily do something like this. Japanese as a language loves to change syllables based on sound, so this is something that they would play with.

Plus, I think that it helps that the writer is not a Japanese native. Having had to be able to learn to hear the difference between these words (which I free admit is my weakness in Japanese) he would probably have more "top of mind awareness" of these quirks. For native Japanese hearing it would be completely natural.

Oh well, I could be wrong, but that is what makes watching shows like this so much fun, you really have to think about it, but in doing so one can overthink as well.


I have read the novels, but that has very little to do with it.

If you strain your ears a bit, and listen to it very closely, you can hear, that BOTH syllables are present.
Well, that, and basic Japanese sentence structuring. 'Ore' and 'Orera' are both pronouns, meaning 'I/Me' and 'We/Us' respectively. The 'wa' sound after that is similar to the english 'is' (as in It is, I am, we are, etc...) (If there are any grammarl terminology issues present, do excuse me, it was about 12 years ago, that I last gave a flying frell about grammar terminology).




Ferax said:
great ep and holy cow that ED
i cant wait a week for the next ep i want the ep now

and i dont want to read the LN i dont want spoilers D:


You can read the Novels up until the end of the second Volume, for that is exactly, where the anime is.
 
May 28, 2014 11:13 AM
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waaaah no Sora ; __ ; u can't leave Shiro aloooonee. Oh well, it seems like we'll get some character development for Shiro. Could it be... That finding Sora is the game itself? *gasp* just spouting things but that episode felt waaay too short. It's torture waiting for the next episode T___T

Practically no fanservice and a still badass Jibril, this episode is great~
 
May 28, 2014 11:16 AM

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i summon war-beast Izuna in attack mode, and activate the spell card Elf..!
i like how they also changed the ending to match the ending of the episode ^^

edit2: best episode so far. there's pretty much no fan-service here (the panty bet doesn't count), and more focus on content, though this was only a transition episode before the next game
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May 28, 2014 11:26 AM
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GreenDrag said:




Ferax said:
great ep and holy cow that ED
i cant wait a week for the next ep i want the ep now

and i dont want to read the LN i dont want spoilers D:


You can read the Novels up until the end of the second Volume, for that is exactly, where the anime is.


Come on, don't tease him so much xD
I wanted to write the same thing after his first post but thought it would be too mean to do that.

Spoiler for GreenDrag to read:

 
May 28, 2014 11:28 AM
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Ok, so wtf has happened to Sora?
 
May 28, 2014 11:28 AM

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KumaKing said:
What just happened lol?


I'm wondering the same thing. Maybe I missed something?
 
May 28, 2014 11:33 AM

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Wow this episode was another one that completely blew my mind. Especially the ending. Gimme a sec, I actually teared up a bit at the end. Izuna-tan though~ wow, much cute, such kawaii, very shiro-like. The way that Sora and Shiro figured out everything about the warbeasts is just amazing and it was epic just watching them solving everything and becoming the greatest gambler Imanity has ever seen by betting their "Race Piece". Insanely awesome. 1 word for the warbeasts - #rekt. I don't know what Sora did or where he went but I have some vague idea that Sora made a promise or something that had to do with Tet. Otherwise nobody else has the power to just make a person disappear and wipe him from existance. The reason I was tearing up was because the thing that happened to Sora and how it made Shiro feel is the exact feeling from the movie Steins;Gate where nobody remembers Okabe except Mikase Kurisu. That feeling is just so so sad :'( I cri everytime. Then they altered the ending theme song which is a beautiful song that makes me understand a bit of Sora and Shiro's relationship a bit more, but when Shiro is left standing there all alone it just made me sympathise even more for her~ Poor Shiro :'(
Despite the epic and sad ending (which is showing how interesting next episode is going to be), this episode deserves a 5/5 if not a 6/5 for its brilliant style and how it is setting up the story nicely. Honestly people ought to rate No Game No Life higher~ this anime puts the word "Epic" to good use ^^
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May 28, 2014 11:35 AM

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Pigeon_Senpai said:
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What just happened lol?

I'm wondering the same thing. Maybe I missed something?

he figured a way to defeat the world they were in, much like a hacker find a way to defeat a video-game
(by changing things - modding)

...next episode will be interesting indeed.
 
May 28, 2014 11:39 AM
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GreenDrag said:
Well, that, and basic Japanese sentence structuring. 'Ore' and 'Orera' are both pronouns, meaning 'I/Me' and 'We/Us' respectively. The 'wa' sound after that is similar to the english 'is'


Not quite, the "wa" is a nominalizer, it makes the proceeding expressinon the topic of the sentence. So Ore wa would technically "As for I" and orera wa would be "As for we". "Desu" would be the equivalent of the "is" (in the case of that particularl line "ja nai" is "is/are not").

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If you strain your ears a bit, and listen to it very closely, you can hear, that BOTH syllables are present

Well, that's my problem, even if I strain my ears I can't hear two syllables, only the one "wa". The interference gets in my way. Now timing wise he does have enough time to say both syllables, but that could be explained that when the screen goes b/w time actually stops of that brief moment.

You are probably right, as I said above I know I have trouble sometimes with hearing.
 
May 28, 2014 11:42 AM

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Caleb8980 said:
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Ferax said:
great ep and holy cow that ED
i cant wait a week for the next ep i want the ep now

and i dont want to read the LN i dont want spoilers D:


You can read the Novels up until the end of the second Volume, for that is exactly, where the anime is.


Come on, don't tease him so much xD
I wanted to write the same thing after his first post but thought it would be too mean to do that.

Spoiler for GreenDrag to read:



I'm not teasing him. He seems like a guy, who like food-for-thought, so I'm feeding him with 7-course meals...

 
May 28, 2014 11:49 AM

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Takuan_Soho said:
GreenDrag said:
Well, that, and basic Japanese sentence structuring. 'Ore' and 'Orera' are both pronouns, meaning 'I/Me' and 'We/Us' respectively. The 'wa' sound after that is similar to the english 'is'


Not quite, the "wa" is a nominalizer, it makes the proceeding expressinon the topic of the sentence. So Ore wa would technically "As for I" and orera wa would be "As for we". "Desu" would be the equivalent of the "is" (in the case of that particularl line "ja nai" is "is/are not").

GreenDrag said:
If you strain your ears a bit, and listen to it very closely, you can hear, that BOTH syllables are present

Well, that's my problem, even if I strain my ears I can't hear two syllables, only the one "wa". The interference gets in my way. Now timing wise he does have enough time to say both syllables, but that could be explained that when the screen goes b/w time actually stops of that brief moment.

You are probably right, as I said above I know I have trouble sometimes with hearing.


he clearly said orera wa (if you're talking about when Sora talks with Shiro before disappearing)
 
May 28, 2014 11:49 AM

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Holy Crap this anime is good. Yu-Gi-Oh references, the uncontrollable urge to fondle a fox-like loli, the ballsy bad ass bet that Sora made AND his disappearance which effected the ending theme song. I just- can't-
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May 28, 2014 11:51 AM

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Nice what they made with the ED. Good episode, although I have no Idea what is going on there at the end. Guess that's how it's supposed to be with a cliffhanger like that^^
Can't wait another week...
 
May 28, 2014 11:51 AM

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What happened to Sora?!

Holy shit the ending!
 
May 28, 2014 12:11 PM
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he clearly said orera wa (if you're talking about when Sora talks with Shiro before disappearing)


No not the last one, the fourth one.

The first one is "ore wa", "I believe in you"
The second one is definitely "orera wa" "We are one".
The third one is definitely "orera wa" "We are bound by the promise"
The fifth one about "we win games before they start" is "orera wa".

The fourth one though I can't hear. I can hear the "ore" and the "wa" but not the "ra" which is what is needed to change I to we. The "ra" is cut out by the interference. At least it is to me, but that could be just me.
 
May 28, 2014 12:12 PM

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That ending was trippy. Matrix level trippy.

I'm Upping my rating to 9. IT was at 8 only cause the excessive fan-service was a bit much. But even now I have to say this anime has the "IT" factor going. Much like Steins;gate did. The story is not without flaws and there are some negatives. But IT just has "IT". Once you have "IT" you don't need to explain "IT". You just go with IT and enjoy the ride.

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May 28, 2014 12:13 PM
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Well the show definitely took a darker turn. Why can't the show already be over so I can just watch episode 9 :(
 
May 28, 2014 12:15 PM

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This series just keeps getting better and better with every episode! And that ending...just wow!
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May 28, 2014 12:16 PM

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The ending was trippy as shit. Poor Shiro I hope she can find her brother soon the series won't be as fun without him.
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May 28, 2014 12:18 PM

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Sora's personality disorder certainly is more evident this time. Nobody could just lightly bet an entire race's well being without thinking of the consequences, even as confident as he is. His reaction to Steph asking how he would take responsibility says it all.


 
May 28, 2014 12:21 PM

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This part was adapted so good I must say I liked it more in the anime than in the novel!! Superb adaptation by Mad House!! Next is Volume 3!!
 
May 28, 2014 12:26 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:
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he clearly said orera wa (if you're talking about when Sora talks with Shiro before disappearing)


No not the last one, the fourth one.

The first one is "ore wa", "I believe in you"
The second one is definitely "orera wa" "We are one".
The third one is definitely "orera wa" "We are bound by the promise"
The fifth one about "we win games before they start" is "orera wa".

The fourth one though I can't hear. I can hear the "ore" and the "wa" but not the "ra" which is what is needed to change I to we. The "ra" is cut out by the interference. At least it is to me, but that could be just me.


listened again and, from what i heard, he does say ''orera wa''
it also makes sense that he'd say ''orera wa'' rather than ''ore wa'' based on the context
- he's talking about him and Shiro
 
May 28, 2014 12:34 PM

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The rivalry between the grandpa and Jibril was funny :3

So their game is a video game :P

That ending and ED Sora just vanished, if I had to guess where he went I would say back to earth to get some help or something.
 
May 28, 2014 12:35 PM

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Hahaha. Love the Detective Conan and Yugioh reference. I really wonder what happened now that "Sora" isn't here... and Shiro might be getting back something that was lost next episode? Can't wait to see.
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DreamingBeats said:
listened again and, from what i heard, he does say ''orera wa''
it also makes sense that he'd say ''orera wa'' rather than ''ore wa'' based on the context
- he's talking about him and Shiro


Not necessarily. Remember that last episode Sora said that Shiro was "the real one", which implied that he did not view himself as being real (rather that the was empty), so in this context, that he specifically said "I am not a Shounen Manga hero" would make a good deal of sense since he is sending the person he does think is a hero into battle.

I will admit that I want this to be true, that this is a clue that will become important later because it would be I think pretty nifty writing, and since I honestly cannot hear it, I made the guess there was some meaning to it. But if you also heard it then that is two strikes against me.
 
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Takuan_Soho said:
DreamingBeats said:
listened again and, from what i heard, he does say ''orera wa''
it also makes sense that he'd say ''orera wa'' rather than ''ore wa'' based on the context
- he's talking about him and Shiro


Not necessarily. Remember that last episode Sora said that Shiro was "the real one", which implied that he did not view himself as being real (rather that the was empty), so in this context, that he specifically said "I am not a Shounen Manga hero" would make a good deal of sense since he is sending the person he does think is a hero into battle.

I will admit that I want this to be true, that this is a clue that will become important later because it would be I think pretty nifty writing, and since I honestly cannot hear it, I made the guess there was some meaning to it. But if you also heard it then that is two strikes against me.


try watching the same scene several times, it should be clear then
(i did this to confirm my hearing was not being biased)

edit: why is Shiro surprised that Sora left? i thought they understood each other, but Shiro has no clue where Sora went..
 
May 28, 2014 12:40 PM

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I have to declare this as the best anime of the season.
 
May 28, 2014 12:46 PM

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Well that definitely messed with my head.
 
May 28, 2014 12:49 PM

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I have to declare this as the best anime of the season.


i thought this was pretty much obvious now? o_o
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May 28, 2014 12:50 PM

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ending gave me Steins Gate the movie vibes... now Im curious what happend to Sora.
 
May 28, 2014 12:53 PM

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F...that ending is disturbing.. It's like from a horror movie. I was so scared looking at Shiro. Very nice animation though.
 
May 28, 2014 12:53 PM

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Holy shit that ending I AM NOT OKAY.
 
May 28, 2014 1:02 PM

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haha Yu gi Oh and Hyouka reference there :p

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May 28, 2014 1:04 PM
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i have read the Light novel but man that ending they nailed it.
SO where are the complainers i haven't seen them around at all. This show is all hype right?
 
May 28, 2014 1:09 PM
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I never wait for anime to air every week like this. this is first anime that made me to use f5 key.

I want time machine.
 
May 28, 2014 1:10 PM

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this is so awesome!! can't wait for the next episode
but where did sora go??
poor shiro
 
May 28, 2014 1:13 PM
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Wait a second... I already had a weird feeling when the camera zoomed in or that ds looking device, showing the date [19th].

From my experiences of watching anime and playing VNs, time always plays a huge role in the plot, a clear example would be Steins'Gate.

If you looked closely to the epilogue after the ED, the phone after Shiro checked her contact list shows that it is the [21st]. What happened on the 20th? Why did she have no memories on that day? To me, it feels like she just slept through the 20th, and something of course happened on that day. I wonder what happened??

edit: think Sora is in a alternative timeline? or the world Shiro is in is actually fake? I mean it is possible that she is trapped in a world simulation 'game' of some sort, seeing the kedonomini race is technological advanced, and maybe when the moment that she escapes is when the game clears... That could explain Sora's disappearance into thin air, because he might have just [logged out].
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haha Yu gi Oh and Hyouka reference there :p



pretty sure they're not. it was shown in a flash-back in episode 7... i think

Rawrdaysgoby said:
SO where are the complainers i haven't seen them around at all. This show is all hype right?

is this show hyped? yes, arguably the most hyped series of this season
as a "complainer", i actually enjoyed this particular episode. bonus points for not adding eye-rolling fan-service like some previous episodes...


edit: at awilson338: nice catch..!
 
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