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May 27, 2014 2:34 PM

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I find that comparison a little unfair. Gon's mental state take him to this vow, but kurapika also has a life sentence with his vow.

How is it unfair?

Kurapika has to "vow" something that give him power to beat 12 people. Quite different from the rage of the moment for gon.

He used vows and limitations as well. His vow was to kill Pitou, and condition is discarding his nen potential and his life.
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May 27, 2014 2:34 PM

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The elegance and beauty mixed with the carnage and brutal instantly of this episode was bar none the best episode in the series. Just like i thought in the manga, the emotional impact of this moment is felt 100 times over.

The ost they used for gon's dramatic break down was felt right here man. I felt the sheer intensity like it was something that was happening in the room.

This moment have been heavily foreshadowed since the first initial nen training, (currently where i am at in the series) and now the results finally come to fruition.

The animation just makes it so much more real to. Amazing episode, the one i been waiting since the beginning to see animated.
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May 27, 2014 2:35 PM

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Hunter x Hunter never ceases to amaze me.

Gon Recks all!
 
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lol well I'm glad no one's been yelling "ASSPULL!" all over the place. It may seem like an asspull (because the kid transformed) but it goes in line very well with the principles of Nen. AND Gon's transformation/change has been prominent throughout the entire arc so you can't go saying it wasn't foreshadowed. I always looked at it as Togashi paying homage to DBZ, in a way that makes complete sense.

With that being said, I can't wait to watch this episode!!!
 
May 27, 2014 2:37 PM

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Dimitrije1606 said:
Rannta said:
SaSa-Zoldyck said:
Rannta said:

I find that comparison a little unfair. Gon's mental state take him to this vow, but kurapika also has a life sentence with his vow.

How is it unfair?

Kurapika has to "vow" something that give him power to beat 12 people. Quite different from the rage of the moment for gon.

He used vows and limitations as well. His vow was to kill Pitou, and condition is discarding his nen potential and his life.

I don't question that. The only thing is, kurapika's vow isn't weaker than gon's vow.
 
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I had a boner through out the whole episode. fukin amazing
 
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Rannta said:
SaSa-Zoldyck said:
Rannta said:

I find that comparison a little unfair. Gon's mental state take him to this vow, but kurapika also has a life sentence with his vow.

How is it unfair?

Kurapika has to "vow" something that give him power to beat 12 people. Quite different from the rage of the moment for gon.

I'm not trying to bash Kurapika or paint him as a weak willed person. He was smart enough to set that vow. I was just explaining why Gon got such a major power. BTW his rage had little to no influence on what happend.
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May 27, 2014 2:38 PM

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Oh my freaking God! That was amazing! Gon vs. Pitou was even more epic than I imagined!

Once again, Madhouse impresses me with their animations.
Megumi Han has out done herself! Gon's voice was still quite high, but bone-chillingly calm. No longer so childish. It felt so surreal to hear that voice coming out of Gon-san's body.
The music was perfect! Everything was perfect!

My favourite moment: seeing Gon Jan-ken Pitou in the face! Holy Christ-kebab!
 
May 27, 2014 2:42 PM

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Rannta said:
Dimitrije1606 said:
Rannta said:
SaSa-Zoldyck said:
Rannta said:

I find that comparison a little unfair. Gon's mental state take him to this vow, but kurapika also has a life sentence with his vow.

How is it unfair?

Kurapika has to "vow" something that give him power to beat 12 people. Quite different from the rage of the moment for gon.

He used vows and limitations as well. His vow was to kill Pitou, and condition is discarding his nen potential and his life.

I don't question that. The only thing is, kurapika's vow isn't weaker than gon's vow.

Not trying to bash you or anything, but I believe it is weaker. Kurapika's vow is that he will lose his life if he attack anyone with his abilities other than Spiders, but Gon sacrificed it all. His vow was pretty much something like- I will kill you, and that is all. I don't need anything else. After this, it is over for you and me both.
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May 27, 2014 2:44 PM

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Dimitrije1606 said:
Rannta said:
Dimitrije1606 said:
Rannta said:
SaSa-Zoldyck said:
Rannta said:

I find that comparison a little unfair. Gon's mental state take him to this vow, but kurapika also has a life sentence with his vow.

How is it unfair?

Kurapika has to "vow" something that give him power to beat 12 people. Quite different from the rage of the moment for gon.

He used vows and limitations as well. His vow was to kill Pitou, and condition is discarding his nen potential and his life.

I don't question that. The only thing is, kurapika's vow isn't weaker than gon's vow.

Not trying to bash you or anything, but I believe it is weaker. Kurapika's vow is that he will lose his life if he attack anyone with his abilities other than Spiders, but Gon sacrificed it all. His vow was pretty much something like- I will kill you, and that is all. I don't need anything else. After this, it is over for you and me both.
Yes, I agree. There's a subtle, but distinct difference between vowing your life and vowing your everything, the way Gon did.
 
May 27, 2014 2:45 PM

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Great episode. It felt like I was watching naruto, when he didn't have control over his nine tails power.
 
May 27, 2014 2:50 PM

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Holy Crap Hunter X Hunter plz my dick can only get so hard for a show such a badass fight if u can even call it that
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May 27, 2014 2:51 PM

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A warrior 10 years in the making on the next dragon ball z :)



 
May 27, 2014 2:53 PM

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I think I might've just watched one of the greatest episodes in anime history.
 
May 27, 2014 2:54 PM

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Clarifying some points...

1) He's not as strong as the king!
Mistranslations happen. Pitou actually said something like:
"his fangs can reach the king now", not "his power is equal to king's".

2) He's as strong as Pitou!
Other lines usually help identify mistranslations. Pitou said:
"... he has forced his growth to the point of being able to defeat me".


And, unfortunatelly, that mistranslation also spreaded to other languages (I hate when Crunchyroll/fansubs translate from English rather than from the original... that's why I study Japanese for myself).
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May 27, 2014 2:56 PM
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they cldnt have adapted that any better i have watched it three times today >.< badass of the yr award goes to gon
 
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Blow said:
Clarifying some points...

1) He's not as strong as the king!
Mistranslations happen. Pitou actually said something like:
"his fangs can reach the king now", not "his power is equal to king's".

2) He's as strong as Pitou!
Other lines usually help identify mistranslations. Pitou said:
"... he has forced his growth to the point of being able to defeat me".


And, unfortunatelly, that mistranslation also spreaded to other languages (I hate when Crunchyroll/fansubs translate from English rather than from the original... that's why I study Japanese for myself).



Thanks for that clarification. I was wondering about that.

Anyhow, I know Pitou was sad and all, but as soon as Gon dropped his guard she should have just beheaded him with her working arm. It would be for the King...

Also Gon's transformation was kind of dumb. I know it must be done in order to defeat the king, but still. Sacrifice all of his energy just because one friend died? I would be sad too, but to totally ruin the rest of your life? Kite probably wouldn't have wanted that.

"I'm glad my arm got lopped off so I can be the same as Kite." What in frak? Has Gon totally lost it?

Virtually perfect 5/5 imo.
 
May 27, 2014 2:58 PM

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Blow said:
Clarifying some points...

1) He's not as strong as the king!
Mistranslations happen. Pitou actually said something like:
"his fangs can reach the king now", not "his power is equal to king's".

2) He's as strong as Pitou!
Other lines usually help identify mistranslations. Pitou said:
"... he has forced his growth to the point of being able to defeat me".


And, unfortunatelly, that mistranslation also spreaded to other languages (I hate when Crunchyroll/fansubs translate from English rather than from the original... that's why I study Japanese for myself).


Did you get this from the manga?
 
May 27, 2014 2:59 PM

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There is a big différence between netero 's zeno and the sacrifice Gon did. Netero was already an old man who had already reached his full potential. He had seen and done a lot of thinks. So he had praticly nothing to sacrifice. Gon sacrificed many decade of his life, his abiity to use nen and more (you will see later what I am talking about). So he had a lot more to sacrife than netero during that Zeno who was alreary at the end of the rope.

And Gon is the main character of this manga so I am pretty sure by the end of this manga he is gonna be the most powerful character in the world since it's a shonen. So it's not far-fetched that he reached the king level by sacrifying all that potential (he may have become even greater than the king by that logic (minus the inteligence)).
 
May 27, 2014 3:01 PM

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Netero sacrificed past experience
Gon sacrificed future potential
Two sides od the same coin.
Very symbolic.
 
May 27, 2014 3:03 PM

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Blow said:
Clarifying some points...

1) He's not as strong as the king!
Mistranslations happen. Pitou actually said something like:
"his fangs can reach the king now", not "his power is equal to king's".

2) He's as strong as Pitou!
Other lines usually help identify mistranslations. Pitou said:
"... he has forced his growth to the point of being able to defeat me".


And, unfortunatelly, that mistranslation also spreaded to other languages (I hate when Crunchyroll/fansubs translate from English rather than from the original... that's why I study Japanese for myself).
"his fangs can reach the king now" meaning he can kill the king in my opinion (but it might just be my opinion). he is stronger than Pitou since she said "... he has forced his growth to the point of being able to defeat me".
 
May 27, 2014 3:04 PM
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Netero passed his prime by a long shot when he faced the King. Gon and Killua have much more potential than Netero did. The chairman trained endlessly for 5 years but it could only take both Gon and Killua to surpass him in short time.


There's no way that Pitou can really judge the exact powerlevel of Gon and the King. It only means that Gon is a threat to the King and that he could potentially kill him.

People, Nen battles are not won by the strongest aura but by fighting tactics and other things.
 
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Episode 130: 'Omgz Gon so screwed'
Episode 131: 'Wow, it wasnt even a fight, RIP Pitou..'
 
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ryu1991 said:
Blow said:
Clarifying some points...

1) He's not as strong as the king!
Mistranslations happen. Pitou actually said something like:
"his fangs can reach the king now", not "his power is equal to king's".

2) He's as strong as Pitou!
Other lines usually help identify mistranslations. Pitou said:
"... he has forced his growth to the point of being able to defeat me".


And, unfortunatelly, that mistranslation also spreaded to other languages (I hate when Crunchyroll/fansubs translate from English rather than from the original... that's why I study Japanese for myself).
"his fangs can reach the king now" meaning he can kill the king in my opinion (but it might just be my opinion). he is stronger than Pitou since she said "... he has forced his growth to the point of being able to defeat me".


Could reach the king. Maybe. He had the potential to, which he wasted now, to pitou's relief.
 
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Netero sacrificed past experience
Gon sacrificed future potential
Two sides od the same coin.
Very symbolic.

Symbolic indeed
 
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Dimitrije1606 said:
Rannta said:
SaSa-Zoldyck said:
Rannta said:

I find that comparison a little unfair. Gon's mental state take him to this vow, but kurapika also has a life sentence with his vow.

How is it unfair?

Kurapika has to "vow" something that give him power to beat 12 people. Quite different from the rage of the moment for gon.

He used vows and limitations as well. His vow was to kill Pitou, and condition is discarding his nen potential and his life.

I don't question that. The only thing is, kurapika's vow isn't weaker than gon's vow.

Not trying to bash you or anything, but I believe it is weaker. Kurapika's vow is that he will lose his life if he attack anyone with his abilities other than Spiders, but Gon sacrificed it all. His vow was pretty much something like- I will kill you, and that is all. I don't need anything else. After this, it is over for you and me both.
Yes, I agree. There's a subtle, but distinct difference between vowing your life and vowing your everything, the way Gon did.


Gon's restrictions and sacrifice is on a whole other level compared to Kurapika's. Kurapika really didn't sacrifice anything, just a limitation and this spans to the whole troupe and it's also just a portion of his abilities that's limited, he can still use his other weaker nen abilities. Also, it's likely that Kurapika will be fine even after he completes his task.
Gon on the other hand restricted his target to one opponent and sacrificed his whole life force.
 
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I cant even describe how amazing this episode was, it sure is one of the best episodes i have ever seen in any anime in my opinion. Cant wait for some more.
 
May 27, 2014 3:09 PM
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Anybod who's asking what happens to Gon need to know that he is knocking on his death bed. Nothing can save him now. Nobody in hunter association can save him because they may die from removing the nen limitation.

You know that Togashi enjoys killing characters for the lullz because he gets high on messing up the readers prediction.
 
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Netero passed his prime by a long shot when he faced the King. Gon and Killua have much more potential than Netero did. The chairman trained endlessly for 5 years but it could only take both Gon and Killua to surpass him in short time.


Netero would still win without much effort even if they did have infinite about of potential because of experience.

A person with 100+ years of experience would obviously beat them even if he passed his prime
 
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magicstalk said:
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Rannta said:
SaSa-Zoldyck said:
Rannta said:

How is it unfair?

Kurapika has to "vow" something that give him power to beat 12 people. Quite different from the rage of the moment for gon.

He used vows and limitations as well. His vow was to kill Pitou, and condition is discarding his nen potential and his life.

I don't question that. The only thing is, kurapika's vow isn't weaker than gon's vow.

Not trying to bash you or anything, but I believe it is weaker. Kurapika's vow is that he will lose his life if he attack anyone with his abilities other than Spiders, but Gon sacrificed it all. His vow was pretty much something like- I will kill you, and that is all. I don't need anything else. After this, it is over for you and me both.
Yes, I agree. There's a subtle, but distinct difference between vowing your life and vowing your everything, the way Gon did.


Gon's restrictions and sacrifice is on a whole other level compared to Kurapika's. Kurapika really didn't sacrifice anything, just a limitation and this spans to the whole troupe and it's also just a portion of his abilities that's limited, he can still use his other weaker nen abilities. Also, it's likely that Kurapika will be fine even after he completes his task.
Gon on the other hand restricted his target to one opponent and sacrificed his whole life force.


I don't know why you guys are arguing on something that's clear.

Gon's vow is a whole lot stronger than Kurapika because he is sacrificing everything. That means his nen, life-span, etc..

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brandis said:
Blow said:
Clarifying some points...

1) He's not as strong as the king!
Mistranslations happen. Pitou actually said something like:
"his fangs can reach the king now", not "his power is equal to king's".

2) He's as strong as Pitou!
Other lines usually help identify mistranslations. Pitou said:
"... he has forced his growth to the point of being able to defeat me".


And, unfortunatelly, that mistranslation also spreaded to other languages (I hate when Crunchyroll/fansubs translate from English rather than from the original... that's why I study Japanese for myself).



Thanks for that clarification. I was wondering about that.

Anyhow, I know Pitou was sad and all, but as soon as Gon dropped his guard she should have just beheaded him with her working arm. It would be for the King...

Also Gon's transformation was kind of dumb. I know it must be done in order to defeat the king, but still. Sacrifice all of his energy just because one friend died? I would be sad too, but to totally ruin the rest of your life? Kite probably wouldn't have wanted that.

"I'm glad my arm got lopped off so I can be the same as Kite." What in frak? Has Gon totally lost it?

Virtually perfect 5/5 imo.

I believe Pitou felt sickly good while healing her arm (In advance:For me, Pitou is a girl). She was so scared and worried for Komugi and King, because there was no way she could have healed Kite anyway, so Komugi was pretty much dead (For Pitou at least). When she heard that Komugi was safe, she must have felt relief. She needed a few moments to collect her thoughts, which was enabled by Doctor Blythe.Also, I will not spoil, but you are wrong about King. Finally, Kite was not his friend. He was more like his mentor and his older brother. When Kite lost his arm, he was forced to fight to protect Gon and Killua (In Gon's thoughts at least). When he heard Kite what Kite has became, he blamed himself. So it is a lot more complex than simple *His friend died*.
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This episode was phenomenal! I'm glad they got this part of the manga down and adapted it perfectly. An easy 5/5 for this week's episode.
As for what's to come... (manga spoilers)

 
May 27, 2014 3:13 PM
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So, much cooler than i thought i read the manga and saw this happening the animators did a good job
 
May 27, 2014 3:15 PM
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best shounen arc of all time .... FACT not opinion , this is unique and not some cliche shit ... wow just wow best arc everrrrrrrr
 
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brandis said:

Anyhow, I know Pitou was sad and all, but as soon as Gon dropped his guard she should have just beheaded him with her working arm. It would be for the King...

Also Gon's transformation was kind of dumb. I know it must be done in order to defeat the king, but still. Sacrifice all of his energy just because one friend died? I would be sad too, but to totally ruin the rest of your life? Kite probably wouldn't have wanted that.

"I'm glad my arm got lopped off so I can be the same as Kite." What in frak? Has Gon totally lost it?

Virtually perfect 5/5 imo.


Even if Pitou attacked then, there was no guarantee her hit would land, or be fatal enough to kill him. It's not very obvious, but Pitou is actually afraid of Gon (because, as long as he exists, he would still be a threat to the King).
It was a wise decision to heal her arm while she had time, so if things devolve into a fight (rather than a one-way slaughter -- where Pitou is the butcher, of course), she'd have a better chance of winning. Pitou never expected Gon to make such a huge sacrifice for an unfathomable power (and when he did, she brought out her Terpsichora to exceed her limits).

Kite wouldn't have wanted that, but Gon doesn't really stand much of a chance. As far as Gon is concerned, he doesn't have the rest of his life. If he's going to die anyway, he can sacrifice his life to kill Pitou.

Yes, Gon has completely lost it. He lost it way back in ep 116. Actually, he lost it waaaaay back when he saw Kite's corpse being manipulated like a puppet on strings. (Gon's admiration of Kite is a little extreme, if you haven't noticed.)

*_* I just noticed that I've been referring to Pitou as a "she." Oops.
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The ost was just perfect, especially the piano version of the ending theme
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That melodramatic music again.. But still it was a better episode than the last one that's for sure, even though I was expecting more fluid animationn. But meh. There's always this to save up for that
http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1337/04/1337041627727.gif

And for those wondering how Meruem will be defeated, here's a spoiler
http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1341/61/1341614558927.png
 
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Please refrain from asking where to watch the episode, and constantly asking what's gonna happen next. Also, please spoiler parts of your quote towers when they're more than a screen size as it is very unpleasant to look at.
 
May 27, 2014 3:23 PM

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Oh shit, what will happen to Gon..
 
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Simply amazing. Gon probably has the best development out of any shounen protagonist and is one of said protagonists that has actually killed in his rage. I couldn't stop staring at the screen and shaking in anticipation. I've never felt this way while watching an anime. I've been filled with excitement and I have sometimes cried but never have I been completely speechless and silent while my eyes just widened unable to move my body (may sound like exaggerating but this is what happened). Never thought the words Rock Paper Scissors would ever hold such weight. The OST was amazing too. May be my favorite episode of any anime series ever. Now I just wonder where will the series go from here, what will happen to Gon in the future and how the King will be defeated.
Edit: Tl;dr This episode made me SCHWING
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"Listen Simon... Don't forget. Believe in yourself. Not in the you who believes in me. Not the me who believes in you. Believe in the you who believes in yourself." ~ Kamina (TTGL)

“You should enjoy the little detours. To the fullest. Because that’s where you’ll find the things more important than what you want.” ~ Ging (HxH)
 
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I'm feeling like Hisoka right now ;D
 
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This is it. This is the episode of HxH that made me shiver with excitement once again, much like the episode of Gon Vs Hisoka in the Heaven's Arena arc. Goddammit Madhouse, I love you.
 
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Simply amazing. Gon probably has the best development out of any shounen protagonist and is one of said protagonists that has actually killed in his rage. I couldn't stop staring at the screen and shaking in anticipation. I've never felt this way while watching an anime. I've been filled with excitement and I have sometimes cried but never have I been completely speechless and silent while my eyes just widened unable to move my body (may sound like exaggerating but this is what happened). Never thought the words Rock Paper Scissors would ever hold such weight. The OST was amazing too. May be my favorite episode of any anime series ever. Now I just wonder where will the series go from here, what will happen to Gon in the future and how the King will be defeated.
Edit: Tl;dr This episode made me SCHWING


I feel you there man, been far too long since I've last gotten this excited over an anime episode. Everything about it was done perfectly. The music. The atmosphere. THE SHEER EPICNESS. Fucking brutal stuff.
 
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What the actual f***?

Ten pages already? This early?

Wow... Gon fans must be really waiting for this.
 
May 27, 2014 3:33 PM
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Hisoka would get raped so hard if he were ever to face off against this Gon. And shouldn't Killua be there almost instantly if he were really moving at the speed of a lightning bolt? Considering that the average lightning bolt travels at 4000 miles per second and can even reach the speed of light.
 
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FUCKING EPIC SPEECHLESS!!!! FUCKING EPIC SPEECHLESS!!!!
 
May 27, 2014 3:35 PM

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JESUS CHRIST! The manga is one thing but finally watching this animated is just beyond EPIC! Thank you, Madhouse for such an attention-grabbing masterpiece!

On another note, I'm surprised with the general opinion. I mentioned last week I expected more hate than hype since 30 episodes were the prelude for what turned out to be one punch. Just one punch.

I guess the majority realised that, unlike the common shounens, this was not a victory taken out of the ass but a victory won with a serious price due to vow and limitation. And the arm.

That transformation with Gon's skull-like face and that background music sent shivers down my spine. Perfect adaptation. 5/5, like most episodes are for me.
 
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they just can't kill Gon!!!if he die, what happen next!? Killua for protagonist? he is awesome but isn't' Gon!! Q_Q

just epic, nothing more to say.
 
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Hisoka would get raped so hard if he were ever to face off against this Gon. And shouldn't Killua be there almost instantly if he were really moving at the speed of a lightning bolt? Considering that the average lightning bolt travels at 4000 miles per second and can even reach the speed of light.


He isn't reaching speed of light, it is the name of his technique. Uvo can't do real big bang.
 
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And for those wondering how Meruem will be defeated, here's a spoiler
http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1341/61/1341614558927.png


hahaha that's funny.
 
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