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| I am pretty sure that Kunato did not expect everything to go to shit the way it did. I am pretty sure he does not feel too good about outcome himself. He is the type who achieved everything he has by himself, so seeing some newbie get a "special treatment" with none of the years of work must be infuriating, not surprising he wanted to make Nagate look like screw up. I doubt he expected what happened. What he deserves IS a trial for his actions, but it does not make him a "villain" - just flawed human being. Its depressing that the adaptation chose to alter Nagate's first battle (in manga Hoo boy next ep will be hilarious :3 Now If they just randomly decide to cut-out the ResidentANM said: I hope that only Hive-type Gauna have the ability to reanimate destroyed frames/pilots. Otherwise, the Gauna are more powerful than I thought. What the eff are you talking about? What "reanimation"? Gauna in general has been shown being able to mimmick stuff. This is no different |
AhenshihaelMay 23, 2014 8:03 AM
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ligonis1337 said: Shaniyaz said: So Kunato was responsible for the untimely detonation, which threw Nagate in a shock and saving him caused Shizuka's life. Her death must've been brutal.. :'/ That bastard! -.- Knew he can't be trusted. I wonder why they haven't checked Tsugumori's communication record. That would have shown that Kunato gave an early command to Nagate.. Nice seeing Hiyama and Izana trying to cheer up Nagate. Though, he's back to getting rude treatments from his fellows again.. Kobayashi's photosynthesis scene was nice. :p Too bad, that secretary guy probably wasn't able to see anything since it was too bright! Yuhata takes Ichirou's place since he joined the pilot squad. Expecting some awesomeness from both of them in the later episodes. 3 'bodies' appears upon the impact of Exterminatus on Rouge Planet N 68203L. O.o Yuhata to assemble a subjugation unit and have them sortie. Nice seeing Nagate's resolve to pilot again. Ending was interesting with another cliffhanger. Looks like some Gauna can remake frames too. I wonder who's inside that frame. :O Awesome episode. I hope Kunato dies an even more horrible death than Shizuka. -.- I'm also wondering about that... Because as shown in previous episode, they give no fucks about it. They already used Nagate the way they wanted him - to boost Ship's morale. Having him in underdog position would logically allow more control over him. |
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| oh man what an epic cliffhanger |
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Fai said: I am pretty sure that Kunato did not expect everything to go to shit the way it did. I am pretty sure he does not feel too good about outcome himself. He is the type who achieved everything he has by himself, so seeing some newbie get a "special treatment" with none of the years of work must be infuriating, not surprising he wanted to make Nagate look like screw up. I doubt he expected what happened. What he deserves IS a trial for his actions, but it does not make him a "villain" - just flawed human being. Its depressing that the adaptation chose to alter Nagate's first battle (in manga I read your spoiler, and I'm sad they did change those things. Kunato's personality is one of the biggest issue I have with this episode. |
| Wow, that long white haired guy is a real piece of shit. I hope he gets what's coming to him. |
| Kunato had a thing for Hoshijiro. He must be even more pissed that she gave her life to save Tanikaze. Tanikaze figured out what happened though, the fact he didn't report it kinda kills some suspension of disbelief for me. There is no way in hell a man would just keep that secret when his legacy and ego are at stake. Good ep though. The fight vs the DG Cell suits should be interesting. |
| Kunato is a piece of shit. I have a huge urge to punch then set him on fire. >_> |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
Fai said: Its depressing that the adaptation chose to alter Nagate's first battle (in manga And I see no reason for you wanting to justify Kunato's behaviour. I am pretty sure that his motives are clearly visible for anyone to see. |
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| 7 dead, that makes 12 deaths in battle so far. Damn, and they only have like 256 pilots or something? "Departure ceremony." This does indeed sound like she wants to kill anyone that leaves, but I really don't see the point in doing so. Nagate cried his heart out for Hoshijiro, damn, dem tears. And apparently he wants to be a pilot to protect Sidonia, meh I was expecting something more. I guess since he was a kid it's ok but I'm hoping he gets a more interesting purpose/reason to fight later on. I liked how he didn't whine about how he didn't mean to/it wasn't his fault. Now he has to redeem himself, so I'm expecting him to do some ass kicking next episode. Kunato sucks. Just because he's jealous he risks failing the entire mission and potentially killing everyone, himself included? He's clearly insane. That or an idiot who didn't think things through. That Bear is awesome. Whoever it is. Yuhata is now in charge, and Ichirou joins the other pilots. Next time he goes to battle will be his last, calling it. Well deserved 5/5 |
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| Damn self-centered jealous jerk bastard asshole Kunato oO He's not fit to be a squad leader --" They could have all died because of what he did and some did and here he says Hoshijiro died because of Tanikaze lol Hope he dies soon though I doubt it he will since jerks seem to live longer... damn him who thinks he's the best one ever... he must have been too spoiled as a kid But well it was a nice episode :) |
Botato said: "Departure ceremony." This does indeed sound like she wants to kill anyone that leaves, but I really don't see the point in doing so. Logically and only by speculation, if she did want to kill those who leave, it would obviously be to minimize the unpredictable factors. Nagate cried his heart out for Hoshijiro, damn, dem tears. And apparently he wants to be a pilot to protect Sidonia, meh I was expecting something more. I guess since he was a kid it's ok but I'm hoping he gets a more interesting purpose/reason to fight later on. I liked how he didn't whine about how he didn't mean to/it wasn't his fault. Now he has to redeem himself, so I'm expecting him to do some ass kicking next episode. Nagate is the "purest" of the whole cast in terms of his motivations. He is someone who genuinely wants to protect people with something he has learned to do since childhood. With all the ulterior motives and goals and factions in Sidonia, Nagate has the most "straightforward" and honest goal. Kunato sucks. Just because he's jealous he risks failing the entire mission and potentially killing everyone, himself included? He's clearly insane. That or an idiot who didn't think things through. Latter seems to be the case. Its the typical highschool bully behavior. Kunato lost his position, so he wants to make the new top-dog look bad, without thinking of consequences. And then shit spirals out of control and horrible stuff happens. D-Joe said: I already read the manga at last week(up to chapter 61) and i'm pretty fine with those changes,because it still means Kunato is an asshole,"feels unstable" means nothing,oh well,he will pay what he did Which is only if you feel that his fate is justified, which, most of normal readers did not. ex_necross said: Tanikaze figured out what happened though, the fact he didn't report it kinda kills some suspension of disbelief for me. There is no way in hell a man would just keep that secret when his legacy and ego are at stake. Because while Kunato blames Tanikaze, Tanikase ALSO blames Tanikaze. |
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ligonis1337 said: Fai said: ligonis1337 said: Shaniyaz said: So Kunato was responsible for the untimely detonation, which threw Nagate in a shock and saving him caused Shizuka's life. Her death must've been brutal.. :'/ That bastard! -.- Knew he can't be trusted. I wonder why they haven't checked Tsugumori's communication record. That would have shown that Kunato gave an early command to Nagate.. Nice seeing Hiyama and Izana trying to cheer up Nagate. Though, he's back to getting rude treatments from his fellows again.. Kobayashi's photosynthesis scene was nice. :p Too bad, that secretary guy probably wasn't able to see anything since it was too bright! Yuhata takes Ichirou's place since he joined the pilot squad. Expecting some awesomeness from both of them in the later episodes. 3 'bodies' appears upon the impact of Exterminatus on Rouge Planet N 68203L. O.o Yuhata to assemble a subjugation unit and have them sortie. Nice seeing Nagate's resolve to pilot again. Ending was interesting with another cliffhanger. Looks like some Gauna can remake frames too. I wonder who's inside that frame. :O Awesome episode. I hope Kunato dies an even more horrible death than Shizuka. -.- I'm also wondering about that... Because as shown in previous episode, they give no fucks about it. They already used Nagate the way they wanted him - to boost Ship's morale. Having him in underdog position would logically allow more control over him. That doesn't make sense. Why would they want to boost ship's morale, only to drop it to the minimum in the next episode? Perhaps they will explain it on the later episodes, or maybe the system just doesn't hold records of private communications. Given that it's been a hundred years since they last saw the Gauna, and the loss in population etc since that last time. I think they are running short on ppl to run things like a formal military investigation. I mean, a student who never even made pilot has been bumped up to XO. If they had the man power to spare they could of let her shadow the first guy a couple missions at least before dumping it all on her. Story wise, they probably just assumed Nagate twitched and hit the button early. Simple easy explanation. |
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Fai said: Botato said: "Departure ceremony." This does indeed sound like she wants to kill anyone that leaves, but I really don't see the point in doing so. Logically and only by speculation, if she did want to kill those who leave, it would obviously be to minimize the unpredictable factors. I thought of that, but then again what could possibly result from throwing some people to drift into space? Unless there's something about the Gauna the commanders know that has to do with this, I see 0 point in doing so. But whatever, not like they'll survive for too long with Gauna around if they leave Sidonia. Fai said: Nagate is the "purest" of the whole cast in terms of his motivations. He is someone who genuinely wants to protect people with something he has learned to do since childhood. With all the ulterior motives and goals and factions in Sidonia, Nagate has the most "straightforward" and honest goal. So far only a couple of people have shown motives other than protecting Sidonia, one of them is Kunato. The rest are not explored yet so I'm assuming their motive is also to protect Sidonia. If he'll keep the same goal, at least we'll understand WHY he has that goal in the first place right? Or does he just want to protect people for the sake of protecting people? |
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| I gotta start reading the manga. It's sad to see changes made in the story...I mean why would they change it in the first place? Anyways, episode 7 was pretty good but the impression I'm getting from the posts in general is that I got to start reading the manga, which I don't mind doing. |
Botato said: Fai said: Nagate is the "purest" of the whole cast in terms of his motivations. He is someone who genuinely wants to protect people with something he has learned to do since childhood. With all the ulterior motives and goals and factions in Sidonia, Nagate has the most "straightforward" and honest goal. So far only a couple of people have shown motives other than protecting Sidonia, one of them is Kunato. The rest are not explored yet so I'm assuming their motive is also to protect Sidonia. If he'll keep the same goal, at least we'll understand WHY he has that goal in the first place right? Or does he just want to protect people for the sake of protecting people? They already implicated that the Captain and the undead council have ulterior motives in dealing with Nagate. They also already established that there are those hwo believe Gauna to not be a threat and view the leaders of Sidonia as an enemy. As for being expanded upon...not sure how much of that will fit in this season. At best they will manage to fit in a bit of foreshadowing at that kind of stuff. He just wants to protect people for the sake of protecting people. |
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Botato said: 7 dead, that makes 12 deaths in battle so far. Damn, and they only have like 256 pilots or something? 12 deaths is nothing compared to Gundam lol. But yes I agree this is a great anime and very underrated. |
| In every one of these types of on the verge of human extinction shows mankind ends up being the bigger enemy rather than the aliens. Way to be a retard and not report Kunato, Tanikaze, very unbelievable and stupid. Well, maybe if Kunato gets a few more of Tanikazes friends killed, it will toughen him up. |
niaxatoMay 23, 2014 11:29 AM
JCDRANZER said: I gotta start reading the manga. It's sad to see changes made in the story...I mean why would they change it in the first place? Anyways, episode 7 was pretty good but the impression I'm getting from the posts in general is that I got to start reading the manga, which I don't mind doing. However small they may be, some changes are always necessary. You can't expect an adaptation to be 100% faithful to the source material. |
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| Damn them feels. Its was pretty sad to see her killed that way. But anyways the best part starts now and I can't fucking wait lol. |
ex_necross said: Botato said: 7 dead, that makes 12 deaths in battle so far. Damn, and they only have like 256 pilots or something? 12 deaths is nothing compared to Gundam lol. But yes I agree this is a great anime and very underrated. only 12 pilots deaths without counting the ones from the splat scene |
| damn you Kunato! i want this guy dead~ |
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ligonis1337 said: Why would they want to boost ship's morale, only to drop it to the minimum in the next episode? Perhaps they will explain it on the later episodes, or maybe the system just doesn't hold records of private communications. Because it takes away the blame FROM them. Nagate got his position , as a way to calm the "anti-military" voices in the population and prevent unrest. But he as a scapegoat works just as well for that, and with bonus of not being a threat to the ruling body of sidonia in the first place. D-Joe said: Fai said: D-Joe said: I already read the manga at last week(up to chapter 61) and i'm pretty fine with those changes,because it still means Kunato is an asshole,"feels unstable" means nothing,oh well,he will pay what he did Which is only if you feel that his fate is justified, which, most of normal readers did not. If turning around means someone can be forgive,why we even need police? And nope,he deserve that,and i pretty sure many reader happy for that,otherwise we won't get a super moe new character.Or show me the proof "most readers" think he doesn't deserve that,and actually,from what i see,most reader think he deserve even worse. To forgive =/= to punish. One can be forgiven and still receive punishment. But let's stop with manga spoilers. |
AhenshihaelMay 23, 2014 12:57 PM
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| I should've known... F*ck you Mr.Butthurt!!... I hope Kunato gets ass burning diarrhea -.- I knew Kunato was jelly to Tanigaze,but daaaamn he went as far as techically killing Tanikage's friend. I wonder if Kunato is running for "Asshole of the Year"award. |
Fai said: Botato said: If he'll keep the same goal, at least we'll understand WHY he has that goal in the first place right? Or does he just want to protect people for the sake of protecting people? He just wants to protect people for the sake of protecting people. Ok yeah exactly what I wanted to know, that's reassuring. Ferax said: ex_necross said: Botato said: 7 dead, that makes 12 deaths in battle so far. Damn, and they only have like 256 pilots or something? 12 deaths is nothing compared to Gundam lol. But yes I agree this is a great anime and very underrated. only 12 pilots deaths without counting the ones from the splat scene I didn't say anything about the show itself, but yes it's great and it is massively underrated o.o And yeah I was only counting the deaths in battle, cannon fodder that died in the splat fest are impossible to count... |
BotatoMay 23, 2014 12:01 PM
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| Kunato is such a scumbag. :( Also what is this zombie mecha ..... |
| Shit I love this series. Oh yeah, three weeks floating together, next mission BAM. Great stuff. Cannot waitt to see what happens. |
Onbuu said: Given the nickname you gave him, that would be perfectly fitting lolI wonder if Kunato is running for "Asshole of the Year"award. |
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Sapewloth said: Onbuu said: Given the nickname you gave him, that would be perfectly fitting lolI wonder if Kunato is running for "Asshole of the Year"award. He's more of a jealous idiot than an asshole though. |
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| Kunato #1 douche, like, holy crap. I hope he dies a painful death in the series tbh. |
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| Ugh Kunato, this isn't a fucking game. Can't believe he also pushed the blame on Nagate for "killing" Hoshijiro. AND he told Nagate "don't even think about blaming me." Well good for him that Nagate has patience that is out of this world. Hm they changed a few things. I remember it snowing when Nagate and Izana went out, and he got pretty beat up by a few citizens, though as always with their changes, it's no biggie. I also liked Nagate's flashback as a child with his grandfather, which I think is anime original content. And yay, Yuhata finally gets her time to shine! Except I don't remember seeing her as the commander's aide at this time. Again, it's fine, because I liked the scene where the Seii tells Yuhata that she has great talent, as well as how she would be wasted as a pilot. Overall, great episode, and nice cliffhanger. |
Ferax said: ex_necross said: Botato said: 7 dead, that makes 12 deaths in battle so far. Damn, and they only have like 256 pilots or something? 12 deaths is nothing compared to Gundam lol. But yes I agree this is a great anime and very underrated. only 12 pilots deaths without counting the ones from the splat scene Just 12? |
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| I am not buying it. Sorry, I just can't. It is one thing to want to control Tanikaze and not want him seen as hero but this is flat out retarded. I love this show, it is briliant, but I can not get over this. Kunato risked WHOLE mission, potentially placing Sidonia at risk of extermination and nobody is gonna bat an eyelash? Da fuck? Further on, Kunato could not have known upper command sees Tanikaze as risk and will not check recording. By doing what he did he not only endangered every single person on mission (himself included) but he was pretty much guaranteed to get sentenced death penalty upon return. His plan was not smart or calculated or whatever, it was both stupid, nonsensical and, I dare say, out of character. As big of an asshole he is he was also shown as 2nd place fighter on that training tournament, great and smart student and is capable of making strategies. What he did was not a plan, it was suicide by all means. Either by he hands of Gauna or court martialed immediately upon return. Now, this could be wrong if he knew higher-ups consider Tanikaze a risk, but it was not shown or even given a hint of that. I am still holding this show in very high regard, the animation seems to have stepped up as well, visually this episode looked marvelous, sounds have always been great, atmosphere is great, story and events were explained very well up to this point. This last part is the exact reason I hated this episode. Unlike everything up to this point, it made no sense. None. 2/5 for this episode, 8/10 so far for the show. |
KazuhoYoshii said: Ferax said: ex_necross said: Botato said: 7 dead, that makes 12 deaths in battle so far. Damn, and they only have like 256 pilots or something? 12 deaths is nothing compared to Gundam lol. But yes I agree this is a great anime and very underrated. only 12 pilots deaths without counting the ones from the splat scene Just 12? nina4life said: It is one thing to want to control Tanikaze and not want him seen as hero but this is flat out retarded. I love this show, it is briliant, but I can not get over this. Considering Council had no qualms discussing about offing him, I'd say they would see this as an win/win - They still can control him. They have scapegoat for people's hatred. AND they have a martyr to rally the masses to their cause. AND they have a new "hero" public face that they actually can blackmail if they actually gathered up the evidence. Kunato risked WHOLE mission, potentially placing Sidonia at risk of extermination and nobody is gonna bat an eyelash? Da fuck? There's a reason for that. Further on, Kunato could not have known upper command sees Tanikaze as risk and will not check recording. By doing what he did he not only endangered every single person on mission (himself included) but he wasnpretty much guaranteed to get sentenced death penalty upon return. I honestly doubt he though things through beyond "ha ha, puny Nagate will look bad now instead of me" His plan was not smart or calculated or whatever, it was both stupid, nonsensical and, I dare say, out of character. As big of an asshole he is he was also shown as 2nd place fighter on that training tournament, great and smart student and is capable of making strategies. He is smart student. But he is a fool. He is still an average rich teenager, jealous of the new-kid taking away his position he achieved with all of his hard-work, with no effort at all. |
AhenshihaelMay 23, 2014 1:08 PM
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| Man, I expected Kunato to have been behind it. Sneaky SOB, I wonder why no one checks the communications logs. But Tanikaze gets back on the saddle very quickly and I look forward to seeing him kick tail next ep. The scene with the Captain floating in zero G was beautiful but strangely ominous. I don't think those protesters are going to get very far to be honest. Anyone notice that the flashback scene with the grandpa was in standard2D character design? I wonder what the score would be on MAL if they had done "conventional" animation for this series? I've said before, but I'll say it again: The sound on this series is amazing. I recently got some brand new circumaural headphones from a certain well known German brand, and Sidonia has some sound effects that you expect in multimillion dollar Hollywood blockbusters. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
nina4life said: His plan was not smart or calculated or whatever, it was both stupid, nonsensical and, I dare say, out of character. As big of an asshole he is he was also shown as 2nd place fighter on that training tournament, great and smart student and is capable of making strategies. It was not. He worked hard his entire life to earn his title, and then all of a sudden some rookie gets special treatment. Of course he will get jealous, frustrated, and wants to do something about it. Actions by someone with this kind of motivation are not always smart and calculated, on the contrary, they are usually stupid. Edit: Ninja'd |
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Marzan said: Man, I expected Kunato to have been behind it. Sneaky SOB, I wonder why no one checks the communications logs. But Tanikaze gets back on the saddle very quickly and I look forward to seeing him kick tail next ep. The scene with the Captain floating in zero G was beautiful but strangely ominous. I don't think those protesters are going to get very far to be honest. Anyone notice that the flashback scene with the grandpa was in standard2D character design? I wonder what the score would be on MAL if they had done "conventional" animation for this series? I've said before, but I'll say it again: The sound on this series is amazing. I recently got some brand new circumaural headphones from a certain well known German brand, and Sidonia has some sound effects that you expect in multimillion dollar Hollywood blockbusters. You know I'm glad this series is a CGI and yeah the sound effects are definitely top class. |
Marzan said: Anyone notice that the flashback scene with the grandpa was in standard2D character design? I wonder what the score would be on MAL if they had done "conventional" animation for this series? If this instead catered to lowest common denominator and did every single generic thing possible, instead of having its own distinct identity, this would be called Mahouka. |
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| Quality time yet again. I got some serious eargasms when the Gardes accelerated. I loved the scene in which the captain of the ship was floating in the light. Usually she only shows up so prim and proper, but there she was floating around naked. |
cupcMay 23, 2014 1:22 PM
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Fai said: *random Mahouka bash* Oh c'mon, don't start this now... The thread is going brilliantly discussing Sidonia, let us keep it this way. |
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Botato said: Fai said: *random Mahouka bash* Oh c'mon, don't start this now... The thread is going brilliantly discussing Sidonia, let us keep it this way. Bashing Mahouka aside (I do that enough on Mahouka threads, no reason to repeat anything here), was it just me getting used to animations or was this episode simply beautiful? The opening fight with gauna looked amazing. Unlike first 2 episodes where I could barely see what is going on during the fights everything seemed fluent and clear and easily recognizable. Again, maybe it's just me getting used to CGI, but it felt different. Also, personally, I think CGI adds flavor to this show. I hated it at first and now I couldn't imagine these characters in any other form. There was another show with similar CGI, Kingdom, I hated the guts out of that one though. Not only were characters as obnoxious as it gets but CGI looked worse and worse each new episode. Not here though. |
Botato said: Fai said: *random Mahouka bash* Oh c'mon, don't start this now... The thread is going brilliantly discussing Sidonia, let us keep it this way. He's right...mahouka isn't worth being mentioned here. |
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