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May 18, 2014 4:55 AM
#1
Many people ay they have lost their faith in humanity, andfor understandable reasons; The worldis acold cruel fucked up place. so,based on your experiences, what are things people could do, to increase your faih in humanity? They could be simple gestures or something complex likeachange of mentality/philosophy. For me, I'llstart off by saying I'm pretty optomistic. It takes a lot for me to get discouraged,especially in humanity as a whole.The big thing in my experience that would help my doubt in humanity is if everybody would stop being so shallow. This is something I can be guilty of too from time to time. I wish wewould all stop judging people with first impressions, because they're usually wrong. at leasr, I wish we would just not assume things and wait to talk to someone and ask about what puzzles us about them. I know we don't always get that chance, but we get it a lot more than we use it, me thinks. Also if everybody just became totally honest with themselves and everyone around them. Stop hiding behindfake personality, or fake politness when you really don't give a shit about how someone iss doin. As a bagger I am asked to talk to people, and I ask them how they are doing, because from experience I know that people are cheeredup when people talk to them at public places like this, when people show interest in what they're doing/going through. (Not in a nosy way, just acasual friendly "You doing anything this weekend?" way.) my point is, I wish we would all be honest to see what peoplle really think, andgo from there rather than build our society on liesand watch it crumble. |
"Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
May 18, 2014 4:57 AM
#2
When people start to embrace logic and stop being superficial, that would be enough for me. |
May 18, 2014 5:00 AM
#3
When people start to realize that what really matters is not logic or science, but love. |
May 18, 2014 5:05 AM
#4
lupadim said: you know... both, logic and love, are possible at the same time.When people start to realize that what really matters is not logic or science, but love. Also, this really seems like an empty rhetoric to me. Care to elaborate your statement? |
May 18, 2014 5:06 AM
#5
cabacc2 said: If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion, etc. Some countries already using those methods, which is terrible. We need more love and forgiveness.lupadim said: you know... both, logic and love, are possible at the same time.When people start to realize that what really matters is not logic or science, but love. Also, this really seems like an empty rhetoric to me. Care to elaborate your statement? |
May 18, 2014 5:15 AM
#6
When people start to take correct grammar and punctuation seriously. On topic though, my nihilistic views will only perish when understanding between people of all kinds becomes a reality. |
May 18, 2014 5:17 AM
#7
lupadim said: You are just making a claim: "death penalty and abortion are terrible per se". Thats an extremely narrow mindset, you think in black and white.cabacc2 said: If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion, etc. Some countries already using those methods, which is terrible. We need more love and forgiveness.lupadim said: you know... both, logic and love, are possible at the same time.When people start to realize that what really matters is not logic or science, but love. Also, this really seems like an empty rhetoric to me. Care to elaborate your statement? "If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion" what. bullshit. |
May 18, 2014 5:18 AM
#8
When people stop with all the faith in humanity bullshit. |
May 18, 2014 5:18 AM
#9
cabacc2 said: Not really. There is no reason to keep murderers alive. No logical reason, other than forgiveness.lupadim said: You are just making a claim: "death penalty and abortion are terrible per se". Thats an extremely narrow mindset, you think in black and white.cabacc2 said: If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion, etc. Some countries already using those methods, which is terrible. We need more love and forgiveness.lupadim said: you know... both, logic and love, are possible at the same time.When people start to realize that what really matters is not logic or science, but love. Also, this really seems like an empty rhetoric to me. Care to elaborate your statement? "If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion" what. bullshit. |
May 18, 2014 5:24 AM
#10
lupadim said: resocialisation would be a logical reason. It depends on the background of the murderer, in some cases where resocialisation isnt possible at all (Jeffrey Dahmer for instance), death penalty is in fact an appropiate solution. I dont see whats wrong with this.cabacc2 said: Not really. There is no reason to keep murderers alive. No logical reason, other than forgiveness.lupadim said: You are just making a claim: "death penalty and abortion are terrible per se". Thats an extremely narrow mindset, you think in black and white.cabacc2 said: If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion, etc. Some countries already using those methods, which is terrible. We need more love and forgiveness.lupadim said: you know... both, logic and love, are possible at the same time.When people start to realize that what really matters is not logic or science, but love. Also, this really seems like an empty rhetoric to me. Care to elaborate your statement? "If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion" what. bullshit. |
May 18, 2014 5:25 AM
#11
cabacc2 said: Do you see? My faith in humanity decreases every time I read something like that. "So as that human is not useful anymore for the humanity we are just going to kill him"lupadim said: resocialisation would be a logical reason. It depends on the background of the murderer, in some cases where resocialisation isnt possible at all (Jeffrey Dahmer for instance), death penalty is in fact an appropiate solution. I dont see whats wrong with this.cabacc2 said: Not really. There is no reason to keep murderers alive. No logical reason, other than forgiveness.lupadim said: You are just making a claim: "death penalty and abortion are terrible per se". Thats an extremely narrow mindset, you think in black and white.cabacc2 said: If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion, etc. Some countries already using those methods, which is terrible. We need more love and forgiveness.lupadim said: you know... both, logic and love, are possible at the same time.When people start to realize that what really matters is not logic or science, but love. Also, this really seems like an empty rhetoric to me. Care to elaborate your statement? "If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion" what. bullshit. If people could just stop thinking like that... That would be great |
May 18, 2014 5:29 AM
#12
It's not about what the other people should do, it's about what you should do. |
May 18, 2014 5:34 AM
#13
I have plenty of faith in Humanity. Every generation acts like they have it worse. Like things have never been worse. Now that the internet supplies us with all the dirty details every second of the day, that thought process is even worse. People love to ignore the good and just focus on the bad. Which is fine but I refuse to be brought down by it all. Maybe past me would soak it all in. However I dedicate that self loathing time to gather ideas for how I can be the thing that helps give people faith. Go talk to some old people at your local nursing homes. Donate time to the Big Brother/Big Sister program. Help your friend move, or ask your neighbor if they need a hand with the yard. Be a cross-dresser for an event doing a miss universe competition for your local cancer fighting charity (oddly specific... but it happens to me so you never know). If you act positive, you see a lot more positivity. Doesn't mean you wont wonder why you try at all some days. However, in my experience people will surprise you if you give them the chance. |
May 18, 2014 5:38 AM
#14
Dageki said: It's not about what the other people should do, it's about what you should do. *slow clap* Give this guy a medal. |
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
May 18, 2014 5:38 AM
#15
FREE FOOD. Nope seriously, I have no idea. I think there are already plenty of reasons to have faith in humanity. You just have to look for them. Of course there are also bad things that happen, bad behaviors and all, but I guess it's a part of this world that cannot be erased and we have to accept it. |
May 18, 2014 5:38 AM
#16
lupadim said: cabacc2 said: Do you see? My faith in humanity decreases every time I read something like that. "So as that human is not useful anymore for the humanity we are just going to kill him"lupadim said: resocialisation would be a logical reason. It depends on the background of the murderer, in some cases where resocialisation isnt possible at all (Jeffrey Dahmer for instance), death penalty is in fact an appropiate solution. I dont see whats wrong with this.cabacc2 said: Not really. There is no reason to keep murderers alive. No logical reason, other than forgiveness.lupadim said: You are just making a claim: "death penalty and abortion are terrible per se". Thats an extremely narrow mindset, you think in black and white.cabacc2 said: If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion, etc. Some countries already using those methods, which is terrible. We need more love and forgiveness.lupadim said: you know... both, logic and love, are possible at the same time.When people start to realize that what really matters is not logic or science, but love. Also, this really seems like an empty rhetoric to me. Care to elaborate your statement? "If we were going to use logic, then we would be using death penalty, abortion" what. bullshit. If people could just stop thinking like that... That would be great You dont use arguments, you just spit out your vague idea of what "right ethics" should look like. That makes your opinion useless and not noteworthy. I mean what is this? A modified version of this "Nobody deserves death"-argument? here is my opinion on death penalty if you bother to read it. I'm actually against it in most cases. But: Death penalty can be good and useful for society, but only in rare cases. When the chance of resocialisation is 0%, the probability of the subject killing someone again is extremely high, and probability of punishing the wrong guy is also 0%, death penalty would be better than imprison them. |
May 18, 2014 5:47 AM
#17
Boombawks said: Threads that are not like this http://puu.sh/8R3Kv.png This is going to be a classic. |
May 18, 2014 5:51 AM
#18
cabacc2 said: Of course I am not using arguments. Are you even aware of the topic's theme? WE are supposed to discuss about the faith in humanity, not death penalty.just spit out your vague idea of what "right ethics" should look like. That makes your opinion useless and not noteworthy. |
May 18, 2014 6:05 AM
#19
The best thing you can do for your faith in humanity is to stop using the internet, stop watching the news, and start taking people's actions and words at face value. You'll be lying to yourself. |
May 18, 2014 6:06 AM
#20
a large order of nuggets from burger king this wednesday. if someone could do that for me, i'd really appreciate it. |
May 18, 2014 6:16 AM
#22
lupadim said: You said that people need to embrace love instead of logic to make your faith in humanity increase.cabacc2 said: Of course I am not using arguments. Are you even aware of the topic's theme? WE are supposed to discuss about the faith in humanity, not death penalty.just spit out your vague idea of what "right ethics" should look like. That makes your opinion useless and not noteworthy. I asked you why, and you started that death penalty crap as a specific example to answer my question. Its part of your argument about why love makes your faith in humanity increase, and not logic (because logic -> death penalty, which is 100% bad... according to you. That aside, already logic -> death penalty is a wrong statement. whatever.) It is relevant for this topic. Also, if you dont want to bring some arguments, I suppose you dont start something like this in the first place. |
May 18, 2014 8:24 AM
#23
If I stayed as far away from them as I could |
May 18, 2014 8:54 AM
#24
If certain people wouldn't reproduce my fait in humanity would increase. |
May 18, 2014 8:57 AM
#25
Chill_ said: If certain people wouldn't reproduce my fait in humanity would increase. If these "certain" people are on MAL you won't have much trouble getting your wish. |
May 18, 2014 9:18 AM
#26
A guided long term thinking society, the end of corrupt political parties and originizations, space exploration and colonization takes a huge leap forward, a global pay and living standard, a social system based on merit. The End of the college and university system, replace with limited universities and the old scribe/master-learner system. And standarization of the education system that produces those that are suited for work into the work force, and those who are suited for learning to higher educational facilites. Dual use people armies (conscripts with a professional officer corp.) that rather than sitting around wasting billions doing nothing, work in the fields, or as law enforcement, or medical clincs for the poor. So that the money spent is money earned. Also the end of Capitalist Consummerism Replaced with a form of Spartanish Statism, capitalism is useful in some aspects after all, but no one man, or orginization should have the industrial output, or wealth to influence and threaten the state. I don't see any of that happening however. |
May 18, 2014 9:20 AM
#27
getting back my stolen 10$ if you're out there, please |
May 18, 2014 9:23 AM
#28
People who've lost all hope in humanity are cynical master hoodlums who refuse to do anything but embrace the shittiness of the world. There is no hope for them unless they decide to change their views. |
May 18, 2014 9:27 AM
#29
Moog- said: People who've lost all hope in humanity are cynical master hoodlums who refuse to do anything but embrace the shittiness of the world. There is no hope for them unless they decide to change their views. What you mean? Hope for what? |
May 18, 2014 9:34 AM
#30
There is a zero percent probability that they'll suddenly have faith in humanity if they refuse to step out of their negative mindset. |
May 18, 2014 9:35 AM
#31
My faith in humanity is just fine. I never expected magic anyway. There are shit things, worrying trends, but also fantastic things and changes I welcome. It's all fine. |
May 18, 2014 9:39 AM
#32
Moog- said: There is a zero percent probability that they'll suddenly have faith in humanity if they refuse to step out of their negative mindset. Ah, I see. |
May 18, 2014 9:49 AM
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May 18, 2014 10:04 AM
#34
Cigarette said: Agreed. There is something special about happy old people.seeing happy old people |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
May 18, 2014 10:50 AM
#35
Post-Josh said: Cigarette said: Agreed. There is something special about happy old people.seeing happy old people Yeas some of those grannies are aged to perfection nom saiyin I love to make them happy nom saiyin ;) |
May 18, 2014 10:59 AM
#36
Having faith isn't necessary so I couldn't care less |
May 18, 2014 11:04 AM
#37
When people learn to have a sense of compassion and not be rigorously unconcerned for others. |
May 18, 2014 11:29 AM
#38
When the HxH fandom accepts the possibility that Killua is gay for Gon. Also, when people stop being excessively materialistic. |
May 18, 2014 1:10 PM
#39
I have no honest hope in humanity, unless everyone all agrees on that we should all get along and stop living on lies, greed and money and stop murdering each other for 20$ in your wallet or bashing each others skulls in because they owed you 50$ in drugs, idk i can't see any option but world wide death for everything. The world needs to start over, we dun fucked up. |
May 18, 2014 1:12 PM
#40
Post-Josh said: fuck yeah happy old people are the shitCigarette said: Agreed. There is something special about happy old people.seeing happy old people |
May 18, 2014 1:29 PM
#41
i'll tell you. MAKE A GOOD FUCKING MOVIE!!! honestly ,ovies nowadays are just awful and are like 95% of movies in the past 3 years are remakes, reboots, rip offs, sequels, prequels and are ALWAYS JUST ABYSMAL. |
May 18, 2014 2:08 PM
#42
Do things that show they care about (or at least have the common courtesy to respect) the environment and others around them. Stop focusing on other peoples' shit (celebrities and how much "better" you are than your peers) and do your own stuff. Human beings have great potential but because most people are braindead it ends up being a negative due to the massive amount of waste they generate. They buy so much useless crap without a thought, just because they don't have the capacity or moral inhibition to think that far ahead, and only act to satisfy their immediate consumer wants, because they subconsciously think those products will save them or add to their personal value, which they don't. I've given up on humanity for the time being. |
May 18, 2014 3:31 PM
#43
I renewed my faith in humanity some days ago when reflecting on what a breakthrough the formulation of quantum mechanics is in understanding nature. I found it amazing that we are able to develop such an accurate and elegant model to predict phenomena which contradicts common intuition and describes the behavior of things unseen to the naked eye. I think that proofs humanity can be cool sometimes. |
May 18, 2014 3:36 PM
#44
Raticate said: 40% of USA's population refuses to accept that evolution is accurate and correct.I renewed my faith in humanity some days ago when reflecting on what a breakthrough the formulation of quantum mechanics is in understanding nature. I found it amazing that we are able to develop such an accurate and elegant model to predict phenomena which contradicts common intuition and describes the behavior of things unseen to the naked eye. I think that proofs humanity can be cool sometimes. |
May 18, 2014 3:39 PM
#45
There's really nothing that can be done. Humans are the most fucked up species in the world. They also have the capacity to be the kindest. Only issue is it just so happens that most of the humans would rather reflect on the bad things instead of really talk about the good things that happened. |
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit. |
May 18, 2014 3:41 PM
#46
cabacc2 said: 40% of USA's population refuses to accept that evolution is accurate and correct. Yep, humanity can be cool sometimes, but it can also be lame as well. |
May 18, 2014 3:42 PM
#47
When there is no longer any such thing as religion. If we spend all our time believing in something other than ourselves, trusting some divine power to 'save' us, then we are never going to get anywhere. |
May 18, 2014 3:56 PM
#48
Too late. Humanity has been going downhill for centuries. |
"Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
May 18, 2014 3:57 PM
#49
When my niece and nephew will finally watch Mulan and like it. |
May 18, 2014 4:37 PM
#50
Seeing people or groups with two very opposing viewpoints reaching a middle ground. Compromise is beautiful. It just gives me a lot of hope that many of our issues today can be compromised on rather then used as weapons. |
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