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Oct 7, 2008 5:06 AM

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I don't know what the hell they were talking about, but then again, I wasn't really paying attention.

Might drop this if I continue to be confused. I even made more sense out of Evangelion than this show.
Oct 11, 2008 2:56 PM

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A lil bit bored ...
Oct 14, 2008 7:35 AM

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totally agree, Horo is an amazing character ^^. She's cheeky without being bitchy, and cute without being stuck-up, and outgoing without being annoying. I really like her :DD

and omg that ed ><
it's such a cute song, I'm getting addicted. gaaaahhhhhhhhh ><'''

Oct 26, 2008 6:08 AM

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Nice episode.
Horo sure has a great business sense.
Nov 4, 2008 9:56 AM

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This show is turning out to be one of the best things I'm currently watching. Not much is actually happening as such but the dialogue is interesting and the characters are great.
"Males are all stupid and jealous and females are stupid to be happy about it. Idiots are everywhere you look" - Quote is awesome.
Jan 16, 2009 3:43 AM

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Another interesting exchange of words between Lawrence and Horo, keeping me entertained.
Jan 20, 2009 10:53 PM

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Horo is amazing. I'm convinced already.
Mar 30, 2009 12:47 PM

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Merchant talk is a bit overwhelming, but other than that, clearly enjoyable episode. I love Horo uses her age to beat Lawrence at everything he is good at. So cute~
May 15, 2009 3:19 PM

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Horo was so cute when she wanted to learn all the different silver coins ^^ just to want to fall asleep, hahaha!

Jun 9, 2009 6:51 AM

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i have to say that i really enjoy seeing how stock busniess works, quiet a unique show that makes use of supernatural to solve the busness problems

Awesome Sig by Lailide
Jun 9, 2009 6:39 PM

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hahas ... Horo so scheming xD

Jun 12, 2009 11:54 AM

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Practically no action in this anime so far ;/
There's a lot of dialogue and it's hard to keep up with everything they say,
especially when they're talking about money and such.
I hope it'll get better.
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Jun 14, 2009 12:53 AM

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Yeah, was an excellent episode. Continues the story well, keeping it on track to be the best series this season, with no real competition. Horo was as awesome as ever. ^^

I prefer the OP more than the ED, but fortunately they're both coming on the same single, so it's all good. The ED is cute, but the OP is just a gorgeous song.
Jul 4, 2009 1:32 AM

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Refreshing episode, Horo is so awesome xD, and seems Lawrence has caught onto something.
Aug 1, 2009 4:51 PM

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"It's mine!" XD
Horo is so kawaii^^
will definitively keep watching this Anime
Aug 11, 2009 5:14 AM

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Oh, so much 'bout tradeing. And you know? i like that.
Aug 31, 2009 4:08 AM

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I had really a hard time to understand all the stories with the money exchange and market fluctuation.
That's kinda impressive to see how they're able to introduce a whole money system in a single episode.
Really great episode like the two previous.
Sep 3, 2009 1:05 PM

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Spice and Wolf is great! I loved that episode!
Oct 16, 2009 5:54 PM

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Damn. Horo was hilarious in this episode. She also proved that she is indeed Horo the Wise.

Ha, Lawrence got scammed. Good for you that Horo was there to give away opinions about it. Although I didn't have a slightest clue about what was going on since I don't speak merchant. :(

Love the part where Horo went into Lawrence and talked about jealousy and how men and women are idiots. <3
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Oct 29, 2009 11:44 AM
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loving the show, not sure why though. it's about trading in the markets(kinda like watching a show about the stock markets) mixed in with some quick witted conversations. but there's something about this series something genuine that keeps drawing me back to it.
Nov 6, 2009 1:35 AM

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after 3 episodes (which is the time it takes me to determine if an anime is worth my time watching) i've decided: yes, i will continue

a very intelligent anime, different from any i have ever seen ^_^. Actually gets you to think.
Nov 10, 2009 6:55 PM

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Interesting episode.

Nov 26, 2009 11:04 AM

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Makes economic science look interesting!

Jan 28, 2010 6:59 PM

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Horo and Lawrence are the best team.
Feb 28, 2010 6:00 AM

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Holo, u r awsumm~

Really enjoyed this episode, loved it how Holo used the apple scent to trick the guy. XD She's really something.
Mar 9, 2010 8:36 PM

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Great episode! Holo was cute in this one. And Lawrance was jealous too, that is a plus.

Now I'm starting to sense a connection between them.
Mar 11, 2010 4:46 AM

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The plot thickens lol

More changes in their relationship. You can tell how much Lawrence already trusts Holo's judgment and advice. While Holo is still merely amused by him, with some respect thrown in for good measure.

The story is finally going some where and getting interesting. Though I believe that the whole point of this is their relationship and how it develops. The rest is added to help it grow?
Mar 12, 2010 1:35 AM

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I approve of this ep. It's quite interesting to know that there's different coins/silver content. Gives the series a more realistic element.

As usual, wise wolf Horo knows it all. ;DD
Apr 7, 2010 12:58 PM

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I love the way Horo continues on with explenations which Lawrence starts. But then at the same time she's confused about other things, such as the seemingly countless amounts of silver coins. I love it the way she's sometimes serious, other times a kid.

Was completley O.O when she raise the price for the fur from 130 to 210. Though couldn't help but laugh at Lawrence's expression XD

Loving this series more and more with every episode!
May 26, 2010 12:24 AM

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Awesome show. I love the business aspect (that's my major).
Jun 7, 2010 4:35 AM

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God Holo is cute.

...I also like this episode. Reminds me vaguely of Mushishi, don't know why though maybe it has something to do with the traveling.
Jun 23, 2010 5:41 AM

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Horo is just awesome . And damn she was funny when she acted all moe XD.
I loved the merchant talk XDand I'm looking forward to see Lawrence's plan.
Sep 26, 2010 5:49 AM

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Awesome episode. I like the concept of merchanting and do study business already, so the talk about currency exchanges and certain currencies weakening against others and such didn't seem tedious to me. I was impressed with the lead characters' abilities to understand everything. :D I really like Holo and Lawrence. Holo is awesome too - her cleverness and wit definitely can give Lawrence a run for his money in terms of his own intelligence and wit as a merchant...

Both the OP and the ED have grown on me, quickly. Didn't really like either at first. I love the ending animation though - because I LOVE LOVE LOVE apples. :D :D :D :D
Jan 1, 2011 6:52 AM

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Great ep!

I LOL'd at the part when Lawrence was taking an apple, and Horo slaps him and "They're mine!"

Also, just as everyone said, that merchant talk was enjoyable.

It's a very good anime, let's say. About business and such with a cute feeling! ^^

About the songs, I like the ED better. It's cute!
Jan 24, 2011 9:13 AM

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Feb 17, 2011 8:47 AM

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Rewatching this series, and I'm loving it even more the second time.
Feb 18, 2011 12:38 AM

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corroded said:
i think the explanation is that the kid doesn't lose anything. if the coin depreciates, he can just return the 10 coins he borrowed(as promised). if the coin appreciates, he gets the 10 coins and 10 percent profit. looking at those 2 scenarios, its not actually a win-win situation, but a no-lose situation :D(kinda different because the kid doesn't actually 'win' if he has to return the 10 coins)

but understanding the things about currency etc was making my head turn @_@ i didn't quite follow it right.(the ones about countries controlling currencies and the silver content etc) anyone care to elaborate? :D

The different currencies are basically in competition with each other. If people "trust" a particular currency more (low risk of the currency losing value) and so prefer to have that country's coin, it means they are willing to offer more of something to get that coin, and they'll want more in order to part with it. That is literally an increase in the coin's value. With these silver coins, a major factor in people's preferences is the silver purity. Silver is valuable by itself, so the coins with the most silver have the most intrinsic value.

I think it's good for the country to have their currency gain popularity and grow in value because then they can counteract that increase in value by creating more of the currency to spend (only costing them the silver they have to put in the coin, which is less than the value of the coin). It's creating free money without having to collect taxes.

There's also some power from having the currency be widely used. If the country got into a war and needed to spend a lot, they could create a lot more coins to spend and it wouldn't reduce the overall value as much. On the other hand, a country whose currency is only used by a few people would quickly cause their currency to collapse if they produced coins to pay for a war (nobody wants to have it because it drops noticeably in value each day).

What they talk about in this episode is regarding speculation that a country might be reissuing a coin, but with a higher silver purity. They would do this to make their coins more popular and valuable (competing with other coins). If Lawrence and Holo were to buy the coins before their overall value was increased by the reissuing of higher purity coins, they'd make a profit.

But it turns out that the newer coins actually are less pure. It's possible to make money by waiting for the value to drop, then buying the coins. This is because the markets overreact to changes. So a decrease in purity leads the currency to drop in value more than it really should, but then slowly corrects itself by rising slightly to a more accurate valuation.
Apr 20, 2011 10:11 AM
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Ok, this episode got me. I've just decided that I absolutely love this! The merchant talk was great and everything was well explained (especially when Holo reworded what Lawrence had said), the character interactions are as great as in the first two episodes and it turns out that the plot is getting really interesting. I wasn't sure about picking up this series but up until now it has largely surpassed my expectations.
May 9, 2011 10:31 PM

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I didn't expect to see the blushing Holo. And Holo is really smart.

Aug 3, 2011 2:27 AM

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So, apples.
Nov 9, 2011 2:22 AM

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So-o-o-o-o nice episode, I just enjoy this anime at full extent ^__^
Horo appears not to be just a kawaii character but a really wise(wolf).
Lawrence is still my favorite character I can not find a single flaw in him which will make me not like him :P
Jan 3, 2012 8:06 PM

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meneope said:

Jan 3, 2012 9:35 PM
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alpatrose said:
meneope said:


I used to think that a few years back when I first watched this series, but upon re-watching it now, I have to say that I am thoroughly stimulated by the witty dialogue and economics talk.

Perhaps the enjoyability of this series is directly tied to how well-versed/interested someone is in things dealing with currency, as I was pretty naive in this regard years back.
Jan 22, 2012 1:51 PM

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I hope for Lawrence's sake the embarrasment and negative reputation of getting tricked keeps the guy who bought the furs from not getting him blacklisted through the whole company or at least not spreading words about him being unreliable (thought the latter doesn't matter that much if Lawrence just took that route to meet with Zheren and the talk about long partnership was just smooth talk) or Holo might have hurt his trade a bit.

The currency business is very nicely economically accurate, thought I guess they way purity of coins leverages the effect of seigniorage in long and short term might be difficult to understand if you haven't studied economics.
Feb 29, 2012 1:30 AM

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Everyday I'm hustling, everyday I'm hustling~~

Horo<3 ^-^
Apr 4, 2012 8:46 AM

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It's interesting to see a world economy in which the true value of a currency is determined in part by the intrinsic value of its coins. A lot has changed since then -- but then again, even in today's world gold and silver function more like currencies than commodities, so all that's really changed is the disassociation of these precious metals from their former coinage. Also, for all the ramifications of having no standardized currency, I still find the Euro more frightening...

At any rate, watching S&W immediately after watching Code Geass was not a good idea. I was half expecting Lawrence to use his Geass on the trader to negotiate a better price.
Apr 7, 2012 10:30 PM

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The guy was jealous :p
And Holo is pretty smart.
May 20, 2012 10:05 PM

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I don't know why but I loved this episode. I love the chemistry between these two. Although I was a bit annoyed that Holo didn't share her apples with Lawrence. Don't be stingy!
Jun 22, 2012 10:15 AM

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Great episode, it was nice to see the apple trick to make some more profit. Zheren is trying to deceive Lawrence, I wonder if he'll succeed. I'm looking forward to the next episode.
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Aug 24, 2012 5:05 PM

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The apple trick was impressive and one I didn't see coming. But he couldn't figure out that the deal with that guy was a 100% no risk deal for the guy who doesn't invest? >=(. Holo is pretty awesome though, getting down those concepts so easily.

Hmm, and also it seems like the guy might be working for the government. The best way for people to exchange currencies would be to make everyone want to exchange currencies. Using this rumor, people will want to exchange currencies under the illusion that it is profitable. =X.

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