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Sep 21, 2009 9:05 AM

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EmeraldBliss said:
Bakemonogatari in a nutshell

Pretty artwork
Almost no animation
Gimmicky character reactions
Manface women
Constant eye shots
Constant splash screens with random text
Contrived dialogue
Generic characters
Shallow plot

Instead of being monster of the week, it's oddity of the week. Protagonist helps women with their problems because he's nice. Some of which fall for him. The structure of the series is that of a standard harem.

Why do people like this show?


It's easy to like it. Instead of counting how much "animations", "Constant splash screens random text" etc..does an episode have, just try to watch and enjoy the whole stuff.

This is just for chilling because it's a cartoon, no one was complaining on Flintstone's "animation" either, you just watched and thats all.
 
Sep 21, 2009 9:09 AM

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Hi.
Gief MOOOAAAAAAR Senjougahara!
But sure it was pretty nice having some story behind Hanekawa.
Black Hanekawa is White. lol
"Nyahahahah~"

Araragi made an Awesome-face!
: D (No, not an awesome face, but an awesome-face xD)
Actually, he made a bunch of funny faces, but I think that one takes the price : p

And that's a strange caleidoscope-way of showing pictures : p

There is something about SHAFT.. They have this tendency to make things interesting without really doing anything : o
And those screens with some random color (usually the 'red', 'black' or 'white' screens) are somehow really making this captivation O.o

Also, Great picture at the end, after the preview xD


Say.. did the animation get like.. sometimes great, sometimes awesome, and sometimes kinda crappy (but not all that bad anyway), at pretty much random occations?O.o

Oh and btw, Staple Stable's back : D Awesome! And the ED is still as awesome as always : 3

Anyway all in all, awesome episode is awesome : 3
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Sep 21, 2009 9:11 AM

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EmeraldBliss said:
Bakemonogatari in a nutshell

Pretty artwork
Almost no animation
Gimmicky character reactions
Manface women
Constant eye shots
Constant splash screens with random text
Contrived dialogue
Generic characters
Shallow plot

Instead of being monster of the week, it's oddity of the week. Protagonist helps women with their problems because he's nice. Some of which fall for him. The structure of the series is that of a standard harem.

Why do people like this show?


Don't need reason, i just enjoyed the series
 
Sep 21, 2009 9:17 AM

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Laevantein said:
EmeraldBliss said:
Bakemonogatari in a nutshell

Pretty artwork
Almost no animation
Gimmicky character reactions
Manface women
Constant eye shots
Constant splash screens with random text
Contrived dialogue
Generic characters
Shallow plot

Instead of being monster of the week, it's oddity of the week. Protagonist helps women with their problems because he's nice. Some of which fall for him. The structure of the series is that of a standard harem.

Why do people like this show?


Don't need reason, i just enjoyed the series


True, no reason needed.
Although there's always Senjougahara : D And that's a pretty darn good reason!
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Sep 21, 2009 11:20 AM

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Tell your comments over the school swimming suit and bloomer of Nadeko.
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Sep 21, 2009 11:58 AM
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I'm getting really, Really, REALLY annoyed that we haven't seen Senjougahara in like 3 episodes. She was what made this show. I mean what the hell man? This other stuff is getting boring without her. I'm like not even looking forward to this show anymore.

UGH!
^Well i feel it too, so Senjougahara is just an Arc's character? not a female lead? i hope there is an OVA for Senjougahara..>,<


Sorry to break this to you but Senjougahara was never the LEAD female, she was just the arc character that just so happens to be Araragi's girlfriend. Btw, if SHAFT ever decides to animate Koyomi Vamp you will realize that Tsubasa plays a much more important role in Araragi's life than Senjougahara. If anyone has read the novel than they will know that it is 100% surprising that they didn't starting dating after that story.
 
Sep 21, 2009 12:46 PM

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omimon said:
Laevantein said:
mcjazzman32 said:
I'm getting really, Really, REALLY annoyed that we haven't seen Senjougahara in like 3 episodes. She was what made this show. I mean what the hell man? This other stuff is getting boring without her. I'm like not even looking forward to this show anymore.

UGH!
^Well i feel it too, so Senjougahara is just an Arc's character? not a female lead? i hope there is an OVA for Senjougahara..>,<


Sorry to break this to you but Senjougahara was never the LEAD female, she was just the arc character that just so happens to be Araragi's girlfriend. Btw, if SHAFT ever decides to animate Koyomi Vamp you will realize that Tsubasa plays a much more important role in Araragi's life than Senjougahara. If anyone has read the novel than they will know that it is 100% surprising that they didn't starting dating after that story.


lol you missed the point. Regardless of what the novel did (which you're not supposed to reference here. =\) Senjougahara is what makes this show. Point. End Point.

And boo to the guy who talked trash about the show. Contrived dialogue?? This is some of the best dialogue I've heard in years!
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Sep 21, 2009 12:49 PM

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After last week's fiasco, animation was still quite sloppy on this episode. Such a shame.
 
 
Sep 21, 2009 12:51 PM

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Senjougahara is what makes this show. Point. End Point.

And boo to the guy who talked trash about the show. Contrived dialogue?? This is some of the best dialogue I've heard in years!

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Heed his words, and imprint them in your brains, because this is, undoubtedly the truth.
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Sep 21, 2009 1:36 PM

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After last week's fiasco, animation was still quite sloppy on this episode. Such a shame.

Unfortunately you're telling the truth. This episode was quite poor.
Thank god there was Nadeko ^^
 
Sep 21, 2009 1:49 PM

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Another enjoyable episode. After a very cute loli now we have a dangerous white sexy nekomimi. I just love this series, they are awesome. The whole flashback was amazing and i liked the fact that we learned more about that little vampire girl.
All girls are so cool in this anime.

Really not much else to say, everything was nice. And hope we have another interesting arc.
O yeah! what was Araraki doing crabbing the dress of Nadeko?

Am certain Senjougahara will appear in the next episode. If the episode is good you don't have to go crazy because you didn't saw her people. I kind of missed her too but i disagree that she is what makes this anime good.

So i was wondering fansubers will stop because of stream after the next episode? We will never get to see the completion of the story until the DVD comes out?
And when will the other 3 episodes air?
 
 
Sep 21, 2009 3:05 PM

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oo interesting ep
and interesting arc >_<
cant wait for part 2
 
Sep 21, 2009 3:30 PM

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Araragi: Wushaaaaaa.... "my life is completed"


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Sep 21, 2009 3:31 PM

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HANEKAWA AS A CRAZY CATGIRL HNNNGGG
 
Sep 21, 2009 4:35 PM

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HANEKAWA AS A CRAZY CATGIRL HNNNGGG


This.

Plus, give me my Senjougahara.


 
 
Sep 21, 2009 4:48 PM
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Seriously, all I've been thinking the last 3 episodes was, "Hitagi! Where are you?! Come back!!! NOW!"

Still, I think this Tsubasa Cat arc looks promising.
 
Sep 21, 2009 5:23 PM

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Yay, a cat arc :D Not sure I love the way they went about it, but it looks promising.
Nadeko was cute :O
 
Sep 21, 2009 5:25 PM

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Better directed and animated, but about a third of this episode did absolutely nothinng--the conversation between Araragi and Nadeko. The Doraemon analogy was clever, but it almost seemed like it existed just so they could make that connection. Regardless, I think this was a step in the right direction, and I think it's pretty clear Koyomi is the source of Tsubasa's stress now.
 
Sep 21, 2009 7:44 PM

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Monad said:
So i was wondering fansubers will stop because of stream after the next episode? We will never get to see the completion of the story until the DVD comes out?
And when will the other 3 episodes air?


What do you mean? Not that I have looked but I have not heard anything. So what is supposed to happen after the next episode? They won't air the last 3?

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Arcanus said:
After last week's fiasco, animation was still quite sloppy on this episode. Such a shame.

Unfortunately you're telling the truth. This episode was quite poor.
Thank god there was Nadeko ^^


Forgive my ignorance, but it would be great if you could explain. What do you guys mean that the animation was poor and sloppy. I thought it was great, but maybe we are talking about/looking at different things. Would be great if you guys could tell me what I should be looking for so I can spot it as well.

Is it overall stuff, or the actual movement of the characters, or how they are drawn?

Thanks in advance! ^_^

 
Sep 21, 2009 9:14 PM

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A very good episode.
 
Sep 21, 2009 9:34 PM

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he actually held on those bloomers and swimsuit, in the street, just before going to see her girlfriend
i hope senjousajara appears soon, i dont really liked that cat tsubasa, its just like the will of abyss of pandora hearts, but craizier and less powerfull
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Sep 21, 2009 11:28 PM

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I get ice pick headaches and migraines, so I couldn't help but relate. I don't remember turning into a killer cat girl and taking out pedestrians... but I wouldn't care either way.

Good episode, hope they have another special intro soon.
 
Sep 22, 2009 12:20 AM

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Nadeko in school uniform was lovely ! yeah !!
But what shocks me is Tsubasa Cat, it was so goddamn smexy !!
 
Sep 22, 2009 12:40 AM

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Tsubasa Neko ^^ Cute, strange and sexy.. 3 in 1 XD
and.... next ep will be the last TV episode! ^^
I can't wait for it~
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Sep 22, 2009 2:25 AM

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I need my Senjougahara fill... she hasn't been on very much lately

:(
 
Sep 22, 2009 3:35 AM

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I need my Senjougahara fill... she hasn't been on very much lately

:(

^This
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Sep 22, 2009 5:48 AM

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Noobstar21 said:
Forgive my ignorance, but it would be great if you could explain. What do you guys mean that the animation was poor and sloppy. I thought it was great, but maybe we are talking about/looking at different things. Would be great if you guys could tell me what I should be looking for so I can spot it as well.

Is it overall stuff, or the actual movement of the characters, or how they are drawn?

Thanks in advance! ^_^

their faces lacked details and the animation was a bit too framing sometimes.
this episode was incomparable to the first few. in fact after those, the quality of graphics started decreasing. but i still love bakemonogatari. it's not that i started hating it or something just cause it looks worse. the anime is a true masterpiece, everyone knows that .

about the quality: [he looks like a woman doesn't he xD]

thats an example of what i mean
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Sep 22, 2009 8:04 AM

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I really wanna know more about Shinobu more so than anyone else right now.
 
Sep 22, 2009 10:41 AM

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Hahaha trust me I would hold on those clothes just like Araragi-kun!!!
Haha!!
 
Sep 22, 2009 12:53 PM

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I was little bored with this episode.. BUT..
NYAHAHAHA!
and Nadeko..so cute. :3333

Where the hell is Senjougahara?
 
Sep 22, 2009 1:26 PM

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Noobstar21 said:
Monad said:
So i was wondering fansubers will stop because of stream after the next episode? We will never get to see the completion of the story until the DVD comes out?
And when will the other 3 episodes air?




last 3 wont be on tv
but would be streaming on the site,
now how would the fansubbers get a hold of that ?
find a way to dl it? i guess
 
Sep 22, 2009 5:45 PM

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and I think it's pretty clear Koyomi is the source of Tsubasa's stress now.


Yeah, that was my thought too. It's painfully obvious Hanakawa is conflicted with the relationship between Senjougahara and Araragi.

But...ah...I don't know. They should have put her arc more towards the beginning of the show, imo. Well, I guess I should wait till the whole thing is over before I make that distinction. Also, I love how they talk about Senjougahara, but don't even bother showing her.
 
Sep 22, 2009 7:29 PM

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Average, pretentious, and boring episode. Remember when Shaft was good?

Also...
 
Sep 22, 2009 9:50 PM

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about the quality: [he looks like a woman doesn't he xD]

indeed.

 
 
Sep 22, 2009 9:53 PM

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Also, I love how they talk about Senjougahara, but don't even bother showing her.

They should talk about her like that, and show her imo ;_;
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Sep 22, 2009 9:55 PM

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Nyahahaha annoyed me to no end, but good episode.
 
Sep 23, 2009 3:12 AM

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Nadeko was awesome this episode xD although wouldn't mind some more SNejougahara time =O
 
Sep 23, 2009 4:18 AM

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Nyahahahaha was freaking awesome.

Great episode, Nadeko went up a few points.

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Sep 23, 2009 5:40 AM
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Awesome character interactions as usual, but the Hanekawa stuff seems to be just thrown into the mix of the show. IMO it should have been discussed a lot sooner than this since she has been one of the main characters for the entirety of the series. Anyway, still a great episode and I'm looking forward to the next.
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Sep 23, 2009 8:13 AM
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A cat this time hm.
 
Sep 23, 2009 9:43 AM

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A lot of Hanekawa this time. Never thought she could be so interesting when you peek inside her life/personality more. She looks a bit like Senjougahara in her cat-form, does anyone else think that?

Apart from that, I found that stuff with Sengoku confusing. She's awfully cute and I enjoyed the part with their conversation, but what did Araragi want with her?

Oh, also, terrific beginning, what with the music, scenery and all. The art looked crisp.
 
Sep 23, 2009 11:55 AM

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Black Hanekawa is so cute XD

I wonder when Senjougahara will appear?
 
Sep 24, 2009 8:39 AM

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Puni said:
Remember when Shaft was good?

nope
 
Sep 25, 2009 12:45 AM

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This episode was completely different from the last episode. I really like this episode. I'm anticipating frot he new OP.

I thought that this was only a 2-ep arc. If its 5, and the 3 ep is going to be streamed online, it kinda makes the ED pointless.

 
 
Sep 25, 2009 1:22 PM

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hanekawa poor girl =( this arc is dark and sad

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Sep 26, 2009 3:22 AM

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Hanekawa became a psycho, meowhaha XD

It seemed like Koyomi is after Nadeko.
 
Sep 26, 2009 9:31 AM

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Nadeko is mega cute

specially when she ran away

and loved the references to Doraemon :D

I also want to see more Senjougahara

new op should be good

episode 12 is coming out tommorow i think :)


 
Oct 7, 2009 10:03 PM

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good ep


 
Oct 8, 2009 9:11 AM

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Meowhahaha! Dark Tsubasa is totally awesome =D

Really sad back story though, I hate it when they get abused by their parents, always make me so sad and angry =(
Especially when they accept it and think it's their own fault.

Looks likes there's been a serious cut down in animation quality now, it's way worse than before, though only a few episodes left so no point it dropping it now.
 
 
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I liked Nadeko's moeness in this episode and interesting plot going on... but when are they ever going to show Senjougahara?
 
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