| Most of you a probably aware that the Japanese light novel All You Need is Kill by Hiroshi Sakurazaka is getting a Hollywood movie adaptation starring Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt under the name Edge of Tomorrow. Thus I was wondering that since Hollywood has seemed to notice the light novel and adapt it into a movie, why hasn't Japan? Edge of Tommorow movie trailers - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUmSVcttXnI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw61gCe2oqI All You Need Is Kill has also received a 2014 manga adaptation with artwork by Takeshi Obata (Death Note, Bakuman). Manga Artwork - http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3/ddaf91038d4a50891e350acf067bb5db1389304561_full.jpg http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/14260/001.0/compressed/p034.jpg?v=11389260821 http://i9.mangareader.net/all-you-need-is-kill/6/all-you-need-is-kill-4803879.jpg http://a.mpcdn.net/manga/p/26195/476356/4.jpg So what do you guys think, why hasn't All You Need is Kill received an anime adaptation and do you think we will get one? |
AzlanMay 2, 2014 10:51 AM
| So some Hollywood worker happen to be a fan of All You Need is Kill and decided that he want to make a movie out of it, and has the sufficient funding for it. While anime industry worker may/may not have anyone ready to adapt it. Yeah and? |
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AirStyles said: So some Hollywood worker happen to be a fan of All You Need is Kill and decided that he want to make a movie out of it, and has the sufficient funding for it. While anime industry worker may/may not have anyone ready to adapt it. Yeah and? I Don't think it takes just one guy to get a movie green-lit in Hollywood. Yeah perhaps the anime industry is not ready yet. |
stealthdasher said: AirStyles said: So some Hollywood worker happen to be a fan of All You Need is Kill and decided that he want to make a movie out of it, and has the sufficient funding for it. While anime industry worker may/may not have anyone ready to adapt it. Yeah and? I Don't think it takes just one guy to get a movie green-lit in Hollywood. Yeah perhaps the anime industry is not ready yet. If James Cameron wants Battle Angel Alita to be funded, he will get his sponsors. |
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AirStyles said: stealthdasher said: AirStyles said: So some Hollywood worker happen to be a fan of All You Need is Kill and decided that he want to make a movie out of it, and has the sufficient funding for it. While anime industry worker may/may not have anyone ready to adapt it. Yeah and? I Don't think it takes just one guy to get a movie green-lit in Hollywood. Yeah perhaps the anime industry is not ready yet. If James Cameron wants Battle Angel Alita to be funded, he will get his sponsors. Yeah but it is James Cameron your talking about. James Cameron Movie = Big Box Office Revenues Though he still would probably have pitched the idea to a studio to get them interested in the project. |
| No idea. The director isn't particular famous, film wasn't made specifically for tom cruise and is there no other mention of an influential person who may have started the project. The light novel doesn't seem to have been successful enough to warrant studio executives to green light based on that. The script adaptation was written by someone named Dante W. Harper and bought by Warner Bros. so I guess it was a very impressive script and whoever made the pitch was very convincing. |
| You already get Tom Cruise playing the MC! ISN'T THAT GREAT?! Can't wait to see how bad he acts this time. |
| Jojolion anime when? |
| TC as MC? IC! |
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Nicobade said: No idea. The director isn't particular famous, film wasn't made specifically for tom cruise and is there no other mention of an influential person who may have started the project. The light novel doesn't seem to have been successful enough to warrant studio executives to green light based on that. The script adaptation was written by someone named Dante W. Harper and bought by Warner Bros. so I guess it was a very impressive script and whoever made the pitch was very convincing. Yeah I think the script must of impressed Warner Brothers for them to pay $3 million for it, though it has gone through with some rewrites. I think that this movie may be quite successful in Japan as Tom Cruise is worshipped as a god there. Thus perhaps there is a small chance we may see a future anime adaptation of All You Need Is Kill. |
| That title makes me cringe almost as much as Girls of the Wild's. |
stealthdasher said: Nicobade said: No idea. The director isn't particular famous, film wasn't made specifically for tom cruise and is there no other mention of an influential person who may have started the project. The light novel doesn't seem to have been successful enough to warrant studio executives to green light based on that. The script adaptation was written by someone named Dante W. Harper and bought by Warner Bros. so I guess it was a very impressive script and whoever made the pitch was very convincing. Yeah I think the script must of impressed Warner Brothers for them to pay $3 million for it, though it has gone through with some rewrites. I think that this movie may be quite successful in Japan as Tom Cruise is worshipped as a god there. Thus perhaps there is a small chance we may see a future anime adaptation of All You Need Is Kill. I think you're overestimating the figure "3 million"... Considering we're talking about hollywood producers... |
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AirStyles said: I think you're overestimating the figure "3 million"... Considering we're talking about hollywood producers... Aren't most scripts made into big budget movies sold for millions? I think the most expensive hollywood screenplay was like $5 million. This is $3 million which is quite a bit. |
AzlanMay 2, 2014 1:39 AM
AirStyles said: stealthdasher said: Nicobade said: No idea. The director isn't particular famous, film wasn't made specifically for tom cruise and is there no other mention of an influential person who may have started the project. The light novel doesn't seem to have been successful enough to warrant studio executives to green light based on that. The script adaptation was written by someone named Dante W. Harper and bought by Warner Bros. so I guess it was a very impressive script and whoever made the pitch was very convincing. Yeah I think the script must of impressed Warner Brothers for them to pay $3 million for it, though it has gone through with some rewrites. I think that this movie may be quite successful in Japan as Tom Cruise is worshipped as a god there. Thus perhaps there is a small chance we may see a future anime adaptation of All You Need Is Kill. I think you're overestimating the figure "3 million"... Considering we're talking about hollywood producers... It says on wikipedia that they payed 3 million and that doesn't seem too farfetched considering that most blockbuster movies nowadays are made with budgets of 100-300 million and major actors in the film usually get paid at least a few million. |
Nicobade said: AirStyles said: stealthdasher said: Nicobade said: No idea. The director isn't particular famous, film wasn't made specifically for tom cruise and is there no other mention of an influential person who may have started the project. The light novel doesn't seem to have been successful enough to warrant studio executives to green light based on that. The script adaptation was written by someone named Dante W. Harper and bought by Warner Bros. so I guess it was a very impressive script and whoever made the pitch was very convincing. Yeah I think the script must of impressed Warner Brothers for them to pay $3 million for it, though it has gone through with some rewrites. I think that this movie may be quite successful in Japan as Tom Cruise is worshipped as a god there. Thus perhaps there is a small chance we may see a future anime adaptation of All You Need Is Kill. I think you're overestimating the figure "3 million"... Considering we're talking about hollywood producers... It says on wikipedia that they payed 3 million and that doesn't seem too farfetched considering that most blockbuster movies nowadays are made with budgets of 100-300 million and major actors in the film usually get paid at least a few million. I'm talking about him making 3 million sound like that "grand". Considering his subjects are hollywood producers who is ready to employ TC. "overestimating the value of 3 million in the hands of hollywood producers" |
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| because its the kind of fiction that works better as live-action, rather than animated |
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AirStyles said: I'm talking about him making 3 million sound like that "grand". Considering his subjects are hollywood producers who is ready to employ TC. "overestimating the value of 3 million in the hands of hollywood producers" I wasn't trying to imply that is is 'grand'. Screenplays are usually purchased for a few million and since this was purchased at $3 Million it must of garnered some interest from WB. |
stealthdasher said: AirStyles said: I'm talking about him making 3 million sound like that "grand". Considering his subjects are hollywood producers who is ready to employ TC. "overestimating the value of 3 million in the hands of hollywood producers" I wasn't trying to imply that is is 'grand'. Screenplays are usually purchased for a few million and since this was purchased at $3 Million it must of garnered some interest from WB. How much did they pay for Dragon Ball rights to produce Evolution? |
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AirStyles said: stealthdasher said: AirStyles said: I'm talking about him making 3 million sound like that "grand". Considering his subjects are hollywood producers who is ready to employ TC. "overestimating the value of 3 million in the hands of hollywood producers" I wasn't trying to imply that is is 'grand'. Screenplays are usually purchased for a few million and since this was purchased at $3 Million it must of garnered some interest from WB. How much did they pay for Dragon Ball rights to produce Evolution? They already had the rights. |
pacify said: >OVA seriesromagia said: because its the kind of fiction that works better as live-action, rather than animated Not really. The manga is simply great, it could easily be turned into a OVA series >2014 >profitable pick two |
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Nicobade said: AirStyles said: stealthdasher said: Nicobade said: No idea. The director isn't particular famous, film wasn't made specifically for tom cruise and is there no other mention of an influential person who may have started the project. The light novel doesn't seem to have been successful enough to warrant studio executives to green light based on that. The script adaptation was written by someone named Dante W. Harper and bought by Warner Bros. so I guess it was a very impressive script and whoever made the pitch was very convincing. Yeah I think the script must of impressed Warner Brothers for them to pay $3 million for it, though it has gone through with some rewrites. I think that this movie may be quite successful in Japan as Tom Cruise is worshipped as a god there. Thus perhaps there is a small chance we may see a future anime adaptation of All You Need Is Kill. I think you're overestimating the figure "3 million"... Considering we're talking about hollywood producers... It says on wikipedia that they payed 3 million and that doesn't seem too farfetched considering that most blockbuster movies nowadays are made with budgets of 100-300 million and major actors in the film usually get paid at least a few million. It won't be a blockbuster movie. |
AirStyles said: How much did they pay for Dragon Ball rights to produce Evolution? Not sure where your going with this. Is this an attempt at a Chewbacca defence? |
| Maybe they're planning to adapt the manga? Is it even different from the the LN? |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
stealthdasher said: AirStyles said: How much did they pay for Dragon Ball rights to produce Evolution? Not sure where your going with this. Is this an attempt at a Chewbacca defence? Nope, just curious. As DBZ is a huge franchise with strong fanbase, so logically, they'd pay more. |
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AirStyles said: stealthdasher said: AirStyles said: How much did they pay for Dragon Ball rights to produce Evolution? Not sure where your going with this. Is this an attempt at a Chewbacca defence? Nope, just curious. As DBZ is a huge franchise, so logically, they'd pay more. They already owned the rights to DBZ. The all you need is kill movie has like 0 things to do with the novel. Its similar in title and premise alone. |
SolviteSekai said: Its similar in title and premise alone. Ahh... Like GITS to Matrix? (Not quite the right example, but you know what I mean) |
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AirStyles said: SolviteSekai said: Its similar in title and premise alone. Ahh... Like GITS to Matrix? Oh yeah that part where Motoko is guided by Aramaki to become the one and wake up in the real world is the best |
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AirStyles said: stealthdasher said: AirStyles said: How much did they pay for Dragon Ball rights to produce Evolution? Not sure where your going with this. Is this an attempt at a Chewbacca defence? Nope, just curious. As DBZ is a huge franchise with strong fanbase, so logically, they'd pay more. I dunno. I doubt it was much though, the movie had a $30 million budget. They couldn't even hire a decent director or decent actors. geralt said: Maybe they're planning to adapt the manga? Is it even different from the the LN? I think it's probably close to the same story-wise, as the original author of the light novel is credited for the manga's story. |
JeavMay 2, 2014 7:11 PM
AirStyles said: SolviteSekai said: Its similar in title and premise alone. Ahh... Like GITS to Matrix? (Not quite the right example, but you know what I mean) More like they took the names and general universe and changed everything else to be as hollywood as possible. |
pacify said: SolviteSekai said: AirStyles said: SolviteSekai said: Its similar in title and premise alone. Ahh... Like GITS to Matrix? (Not quite the right example, but you know what I mean) More like they took the names and general universe and changed everything else to be as hollywood as possible. Last time i checked its not out yet, so exactly what are you basing this off? The trailer? The Synopsis? News regarding the film? |
pacify said: SolviteSekai said: AirStyles said: SolviteSekai said: Its similar in title and premise alone. Ahh... Like GITS to Matrix? (Not quite the right example, but you know what I mean) More like they took the names and general universe and changed everything else to be as hollywood as possible. Last time i checked its not out yet, so exactly what are you basing this off? Past examples? Like Dragon Ball Evolution |
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AirStyles said: pacify said: SolviteSekai said: AirStyles said: SolviteSekai said: Its similar in title and premise alone. Ahh... Like GITS to Matrix? (Not quite the right example, but you know what I mean) More like they took the names and general universe and changed everything else to be as hollywood as possible. Last time i checked its not out yet, so exactly what are you basing this off? Past examples? Like Dragon Ball Evolution The trailer and currently released story info make it obvious that it has been heavily altered. More than likely the screenwriter just said he read the novel and then wrote the screenplay. |
pacify said: Its true they have obviously made some big changes, but still to say it has nothing to do with the original is going to far. Personally, as long as they keep the ending the same, I'll be satisfied :d. Sure i'd of rather the emotionless killing machine that was Full metal bitch, rather then the character in the trailer, but ohwell. I havnt lost all hope in it yet, it still might be half way reasonable There is some hope for this I guess. Decent Director - Doug Liman (The Bourne Identity, Mr & Mrs. Smith) Decent Music - Christopher Beck (Frozen) Decent Actors - Tom Cruse, Emily Blunt Decent Script - Script has been worked on by quite a few good writers. Decent Budget - $110 million. |
| This could be good like Oblivion. |
| Even though I am interested in the edge of tomorrow movie, I would be even more interested in an anime adaptation of All You Need Is Kill. I think an anime adaptation would capture the story better, as All You Need Is Kill seems to be quite a decent science fiction light novel and the art would most likely be awesome as they would use either the manga art from Takeshi Obata (Death Note, Bakuman) or the light novel art from Yoshitoshi ABe (Serial Experiments Lain, Texhnolyze, NHK ni Youkoso!). |
AzlanMay 2, 2014 7:50 AM
| Because it's not very good, interesting, or notable. It's gore fanservice with a storyline that defeats its own sense of tension and suspense by basically having the entire plot be about a video game character with an infinite lives cheat leveling up. |
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| Both your comments Red_Keys & Zergneedsfood regarding All You Need Is Kill are subjective. The light novel itself has earned wide praise and has received quite a bit of critical acclaim in Japan. The manga adaptation is apparantly quite good, has a score of 8.34 on MAL. As for the movie we'll have to wait and see. |
Zergneedsfood said: And your opinion is fact because...? Like the topic is just stupid to start with. The "why hasn't there been an adaptation for X thing that is super popular and I like it very much" always ends up being answered in a few ways: 1. Difficult to adapt 2. Nobody sees potential in it 3. Source author doesn't want it to be adapted 4. Nobody has the budget to take on the project 5. It hasn't been noticed There are probably two/three more valid reasons for this, but the same reason why "popular" things like All You Need Is Kill" didn't get an adaptation is probably the same reason SnK or Akame Ga Kiru didn't get adaptations despite being out for a very long time or the same reason that Hoshi no Samidare has yet to be given an adaptation or the same reason that Mushishi didn't get an additional season until six years after the first season aired. I don't know why people keep making stupid threads like this. They're shit topics that just bait people to say dumb things. LOL.Feisty one you are. I haven't even really voiced much of an opinion on this so chill. I just posted some stuff I read regarding the novel and manga to counteract your 'It's not very good' comments. To me both your comments just seemed a bit subjective, yours especially. Though there's nothing wrong with that. I actually found myself quite amused by your Zergneedsfood said: It wasn't very good. I read the book as a kid and even then it wasn't that good. I don't care if the thread seems stupid to some people like yourself. I just want to see some decent responses to the question I posted. |
Zergneedsfood said: What makes you think I'm not chill. T__T; Also, all opinions are subjective. I don't understand how stats counteracts any comments made on the grounds of purely personal opinion rofl You did come at me all guns blazing saying my thread was shit and all. Yeah i think most though not all opinions are subjective thus there's nothing wrong with them. I wasn't really trying to change your opinion regarding All You Need Is Kill with the info. Just mentioning the some positives about it to balance with your 'It's bad' opinion for people who may read this thread. |
| The anime adaptation wouldn't sell in Japan. |
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Hoppy said: The anime adaptation wouldn't sell in Japan. Any ideas on why? |
stealthdasher said: Hoppy said: The anime adaptation wouldn't sell in Japan. Any ideas on why? The series is geared more to a Western audience, with the exception of Cowboy Bebop, anime tailored to the West do not sell. |
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Hoppy said: stealthdasher said: Hoppy said: The anime adaptation wouldn't sell in Japan. Any ideas on why? The series is geared more to a Western audience, with the exception of Cowboy Bebop, anime tailored to the West do not sell. The main protagonist in the light novel and manga is Japanese. There are also some other Japanese characters. Also what about Shingeki No Kyojin, it had very little Japanese influence in it's story and had only one Japanese character in it I think (correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't read or seen it). It was still very successful in Japan right? |
stealthdasher said: Hoppy said: stealthdasher said: Hoppy said: The anime adaptation wouldn't sell in Japan. Any ideas on why? The series is geared more to a Western audience, with the exception of Cowboy Bebop, anime tailored to the West do not sell. The main protagonist in the light novel and manga is Japanese. There are also some other Japanese characters. Also what about Shingeki No Kyojin, it had very little Japanese influence in it's story and had only one Japanese character in it I think (correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't read or seen it). It was still very successful in Japan right? Shingeki no Kyojin has some of the most aggressive and widespread marketing of most anime and manga series of the 2010's, it had just about everything in the terms of advertising and merchandise and is well loved in both the West and Japan. |
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Hoppy said: Could the same not be done for this? I personally think the issue with this is that it is quite short for a Japanese Light Novel. It only has 1 volume with 4 chapters, which probably explains why it wasn't noticed much in Japan. Thus a one or two cour anime adaptation is not possible unless they decide to do an anime original story working together with the original author or unless the author decides to give the series a reboot perhaps with a sequel volume and gives some more source material for an adaptation. Though the single light novel still could receive an anime OVA or Movie treatment. Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
JeavMay 2, 2014 7:18 PM
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