Do you know what this is?

Kibura_Iburasa said:
Its because you are looking for it, like people seeing patterns in things when they are subconsciously looking for it.

GuusWayne said:
How can I be looking for it when I don't think about it and all of a sudden it's there like when I walk into the kitchen.

idungoof said:

It's because there are plenty of other times when you look and it's an arbitrary number that you don't particularly take note of. However the greater meaning you place on the numbers that look intriguing to you despite being just as arbitrary in reality means that you take much greater note of them comparatively, so it feels like you're always running into them.

Either that or it means the world is going to end.

idungoof said:

It's because there are plenty of other times when you look and it's an arbitrary number that you don't particularly take note of. However the greater meaning you place on the numbers that look intriguing to you despite being just as arbitrary in reality means that you take much greater note of them comparatively, so it feels like you're always running into them.

Either that or it means the world is going to end.

GuusWayne said:
That actually makes sense but I wouldn't place value on them if they didn't keep appearing all the time.

Noldorin said:
The psychological approach makes a lot of sense. But here're some other approaches for variety hehe.

The XY:XY clock pattern happens once every hour/24 times a day. If you look at the clock 10 times a day the possibility of seeing this pattern once that day becomes 1/6. I'd say that's a substantial possibility :D

If you're saying that you see the same specific XY:XY pattern all the time though, it maybe that you tweaked your biological clock in a way that your body knows it's that time of the day again and you look at the clock.

cabacc2 said:
Selective perception as a result of a basic quality of the human brain: Seeking and finding patterns even if there are none.

Basically: your brain will notice when you see a "special" time, (like 16:16) and ignores the not-special times. The rest is simple probability.


btw, your definition of coincidence is just plain wrong, please dont write something like that again.

GuusWayne said:
coincidence
1. a chance occurrence of events remarkable either for being simultaneous or for apparently being connected
2. the fact, condition, or state of coinciding
3. (Electronics) electronics (modifier) of or relating to a circuit that produces an output pulse only when both its input terminals receive pulses within a specified interval Compare anticoincidence: coincidence gate.

and

coincidence - an event that might have been arranged although it was really accidental.
Stay butthurt.

Noldorin said:

The XY:XY clock pattern happens once every hour/24 times a day. If you look at the clock 10 times a day the possibility of seeing this pattern once that day becomes 1/6. I'd say that's a substantial possibility :D

cabacc2 said:

No. That would mean that the possibility of seeing it once if you look at the clock 120 times, is 200%, which is nonsense.

Noldorin said:


Care to make the correct calculation then?

azzuRe said:
Let me help you OP. I believe it is related to Baader-Meinhoff phenomenon, but in this case, you find some odds combination, and then your brain starting to develop a frequency bias towards a certain patterns.

GuusWayne said:
I see, well I should tell you this first developed years ago but only lately have gotten more frequent. This thread have helped me understand why I see them and why I'm almost always being exposed to it at the right time. I've put together a little theory, I think this is my subconcious mind counting the clock 24/7 and alerting me to specific numbers that Inspires random action such as picking up my phone.

cabacc2 said:

sure. The correct trial to use would be not simply taking the probability (0,16666) and adding it up with every try, but the Bernoulli Process
Going with your logic, the probability of having "head" once after 2 coinflips, would be 100%, because the probability of having it after one try = 50%.

the correct trial is here, with p = probability of success (0,1666) k = number of succesful tries (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, .., 10 you have to calculate 10 times and add up), n = number of tries (10)

The probability is around 83%.
the probability of seeing it once is about 32%

Noldorin said:

Highschool maths is to blame lol

%32 sounds a bit too high though :/ Hope you're sure about that.

GuusWayne said:
That could be it but it's not the way it was described as being an overnight process. Besides, I don't just see one same digit numbers, I experienced a wide array of them + my theory is also based on what I said before about waking up an exact time you decided you would wake up in prior to sleeping. That's something I've done countless times, this being a similar case of time I think the same applies.

cabacc2 said:
In that case, coincidence is still more probable than
"supernatural causes" or
"your subconscious mind that works together with your inner clock, that is somehow extreeeemely accurate, to wake you up at specific times for no reason"

GuusWayne said:
Maybe to you who have never experienced something like this. I choose the latter because it's the most sound explanation imo.

Red_Keys said:
It's like that one Jim Carrey movie.

cabacc2 said:
I am sure

cabacc2 said:

You are free to choose what you want.

But I want you to know that modern psychology has a valid and logical explanation for the phenomenon you experience.
Two kinds of cognitive biases that "work together".
selective attention and confirmation bias.
This is a confirmed explanation.

What you choose is the other option.
"your subconscious mind that works together with your inner clock, that is somehow extreeeemely accurate, to wake you up at specific times for no reason"
this isnt a logical explanation, because your inner clock isnt, or to be more accurate, cant be that accurate. Thats just not possible. Thats simply not how the human brain works. You cant determine the exact time with a deviation of just 30s while being in "sleep mode". Its impossible.

Noldorin said:


That's cheating lol

There's something else to consider though. Say you look at the clock at 10.11. Next time you look wouldn't the probability be lower than 1.666, which the formulae doesn't take into consideration?

GuusWayne said:
Wtf no it's not. I've been there done that.

cabacc2 said:

ok, firstly, the probability isnt 1,666 but 0,1666. Thats an important difference.
and secondly, we said that you look at the clock at random times, didnt we?

what is 10.11 ? 11th october?

cabacc2 said:

ok, firstly, the probability isnt 1,666 but 0,1666. Thats an important difference.
and secondly, we said that you look at the clock at random times, didnt we?

what is 10.11 ? 11th october?


what you did was not confirming that your inner clock has an accuracy of 30s,You woke up and saw a random number, that you considered "special", multiple times.
Thats not even remotely the same.

the "your subconscious mind that works together with your inner clock, that is somehow extreeeemely accurate, to wake you up at specific times for no reason"-theory is untrue with a very high probability, thats all I can say.
You can accept the facts or deny them. I gave you the facts, the rest's up to you.

Noldorin said:


Ok sorry for the typos.
So you look at the clock and see it's 10:11. The next time you look, wouldn't you calculate the probability of seeing an XY:XY pattern between 10:11 and 00:00 that day? Which would be a lower probability than 0,1666.