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Apr 27, 2014 1:52 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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LOL, I think Eiichirou should take his learning a little slower unless he wants to overwhelm himself. I find the episode to have a decent balance of comedy. I felt trolled by a few of the scenes though like when he gets nailed by the ball. Heh.

I give some credit to the kid trying though.

I also feel

Not sure if they will adapt it but a 2 cour should be enough for character development at least.
 
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Apr 27, 2014 3:39 AM
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Kinda expected Eiichiro to lose against Takuma, but he definitely adapts fast.
I hope he wins his first match with the help of his arsenal of notebooks.
 
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Apr 27, 2014 4:40 AM

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Looks like someone has a crush on Eiichirou and she wants to confess to him. I'm talking about the girl with glasses at his school. Interesting development there...
 
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Apr 27, 2014 4:56 AM

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Looks like someone has a crush on Eiichirou and she wants to confess to him. I'm talking about the girl with glasses at his school. Interesting development there...

I second that.

Besides that, I'm also curious as to why, near the end of the episode, the guy in the school scowled at Eiichiro. Is his love interest that girl who likes him? I should think not.
 
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Apr 27, 2014 4:59 AM

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Ashishgup said:
Ownsin said:
Looks like someone has a crush on Eiichirou and she wants to confess to him. I'm talking about the girl with glasses at his school. Interesting development there...

I second that.

Besides that, I'm also curious as to why, near the end of the episode, the guy in the school scowled at Eiichiro. Is his love interest that girl who likes him? I should think not.

He looked like he's envious of Eiichirou. Most probably Eiichirou got a higher score than him on the exams, and when he heard that he is also playing Tennis too while studying for the exams at the same time, he probably got more pissed etc...
 
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Apr 27, 2014 5:13 AM

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Very good adptation so far....Can't wait for Maruo first match and surprise everybody.I wish this anime could get more than 25 episodes
 
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Apr 27, 2014 5:17 AM
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Can't wait to see this match animated.
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Apr 27, 2014 5:30 AM

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He's improving way too quickly, bc it usually takes someone a few years to get a good stroke and there's no way a beginner could return an extremely fast serve like that.
There's no way he can win this upcoming match, unless his opponent forfeits or something.

Is this comment too negative?
lol
 
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Apr 27, 2014 5:34 AM
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I have to say, I love this episode. The way the drawing style changes to fit the mood is both cute and great, lol XD
 
Apr 27, 2014 6:34 AM

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epicm14 said:
He's improving way too quickly, bc it usually takes someone a few years to get a good stroke and there's no way a beginner could return an extremely fast serve like that.
There's no way he can win this upcoming match, unless his opponent forfeits or something.

Is this comment too negative?


Yes... lol.

I know what you mean though. Its a sport you just can't walk into at that age, most pros start playing between 4-8 years old. But in the world of anime anything is possible so saying that try not to let it bother you too much.
 
Apr 27, 2014 6:59 AM
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somehow i enjoy this more than haikyuu..am i weird?
 
Apr 27, 2014 7:15 AM
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epicm14 said:
He's improving way too quickly, bc it usually takes someone a few years to get a good stroke and there's no way a beginner could return an extremely fast serve like that.
There's no way he can win this upcoming match, unless his opponent forfeits or something.

Is this comment too negative?


No, it's not too negative.

Ei-chan grow is surely excessive if you must consider it realistic but the series is aware of that so he won't turn into an OP main character in just a little time, actually in some manga forums, for some people it's even considered a boring series because of this.

So, sure it's a manga/anime but yet it's one of the most realistic manga/anime you can find, the next episode shouldn't disappoint you.
 
Apr 27, 2014 7:36 AM

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Good episode :D

Loving how Ei-chan is progressing bit by bit ^^

The way he started returning Takuma's receives was nice. U could feel how flustered Takuma was starting to get. And he was totally getting angry when Natsu was cheering Ei-chan on.

Nice NatsuxMaruo moments there.

Enjoying this more and more each ep. Can't wait for the tournament.
 
Apr 27, 2014 8:13 AM

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Ashishgup said:
Ownsin said:
Looks like someone has a crush on Eiichirou and she wants to confess to him. I'm talking about the girl with glasses at his school. Interesting development there...

I second that.

Besides that, I'm also curious as to why, near the end of the episode, the guy in the school scowled at Eiichiro. Is his love interest that girl who likes him? I should think not.


Maybe it's the guy that Ei's going to play his first match against. He recognized the name from the flyer at school, then found out this top student is indeed the same guy he's facing in the tournament. Or he could be a different competitor in the same tournament.
Ara ara.
 
Apr 27, 2014 8:28 AM

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I'm excited :D
 
Apr 27, 2014 8:46 AM

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I wonder if that girl who was watching ei-chan likes him? And a 5th seed for his first match? Ugh, he is going to pass out again.
 
Apr 27, 2014 8:51 AM

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epicm14 said:
He's improving way too quickly, bc it usually takes someone a few years to get a good stroke and there's no way a beginner could return an extremely fast serve like that.
There's no way he can win this upcoming match, unless his opponent forfeits or something.

Is this comment too negative?


But he didn't return the serves, did he? all his return balls are wayward. It was explained more thoroughly in the manga that he simply predicted where the ball would go and that he has a very keen eye as well as sharp reflex. He simply followed the ball with his instinct but he has yet to acquire the ability to return it.

As for his next opponent, no he won't forfeit but you'll have to see what happen yourself. Ei-chan's growth actually reminds me of Sakuragi from Slam Dunk, it's consistent with the effort that they made. Even if at times it seems fast, you also need to take into account crazy amount of practices that Ei-chan did everyday (which was shown last episode even more than Natsu).
 
Apr 27, 2014 9:04 AM

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Natsu is doing things to my heart~~


 
Apr 27, 2014 9:17 AM

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This episode was good. Eiichiro's first match is about to start. Can't wait to see how he does.
 
Apr 27, 2014 11:45 AM

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As for his next opponent, no he won't forfeit but you'll have to see what happen yourself. Ei-chan's growth actually reminds me of Sakuragi from Slam Dunk, it's consistent with the effort that they made. Even if at times it seems fast, you also need to take into account crazy amount of practices that Ei-chan did everyday (which was shown last episode even more than Natsu).


But Sakuragi had no character develop whatsoever, except for the Kainan match... (and it regressed from there.)

Ei-chan is extremely diligent. I don't think his improvement is too unrealistic, since there are people who have a natural knack for some sports. I doubt he'll win that match though and I expect him to lose, but after impressing the guy. Then, the next tournament he will do very well in because at the start of the series it was a timeskip about 1 year from when he started, right? And he was pretty good so I'm looking forward to that.

Can't wait to see the match.
 
Apr 27, 2014 12:38 PM

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Wow... Takuma was forced to use a slice serve in order to beat Ei-chan, talk about a sore loser.
His grades are starting to drop and he has acquired the "Master at Passing Out" trait it would seem.
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Apr 27, 2014 1:02 PM

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But Sakuragi had no character develop whatsoever, except for the Kainan match... (and it regressed from there.)


Are you talking about character development or skills? because skill-wise he improved steadily through out the series (I don't know if you watch the anime or read the manga but in the manga he definitely improved to the point of being able to do feint dribble). As for character, well every sports shonen has very minimal character development. He remains a hot-headed punk just like Ei-chan will remain a meticulous yet timid person.. or like how Kuroko have the same personality from start to finish.. or how Tsubasa remains the optimistic "ball is my friend" kid from grade school all the way to his professional days.
 
Apr 27, 2014 1:10 PM

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Too bad Eiichiro lost against Takuma.

I'm looking forward to see Eiichiro's first match.
 
Apr 27, 2014 1:26 PM
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This episode had the best English I've ever heard in an anime.
 
Apr 27, 2014 1:35 PM

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*Starts reading the manga* xD

 
Apr 27, 2014 1:38 PM

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Ara ara, looks like the glasses girl has a crush on Eiichi. Really looking forward seeing more of her.
Did my small digging and found out she was top 2. on the finals score.
 
Apr 27, 2014 1:43 PM

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Can't get enough of OP song.
I kinda hope Eiichiro won't win against that guy in tournament, because that would be way too easy, and eh, life is not that easy.Even if you are some kind of talented genius, you won't be able to win against one of tournament's top 5 with 1 month of training...might be negative, but i really want to see some anime taking this risk and go more realistic.
Neverthless it was an good episode, and im liking Natsu.
 
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Even if you are some kind of talented genius, you won't be able to win against one of tournament's top 5 with 1 month of training.


Anime defies that logic ^

The glasses girl was just randomly standing there blushing, twitching and surprised and know one noticed. I notice some interesting development between blonde guy at exam ranking place thing and Ei-chan, didn't think this was going to be yaoi
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Apr 27, 2014 3:40 PM
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iLostReason said:
Can't get enough of OP song.
I kinda hope Eiichiro won't win against that guy in tournament, because that would be way too easy, and eh, life is not that easy.Even if you are some kind of talented genius, you won't be able to win against one of tournament's top 5 with 1 month of training...might be negative, but i really want to see some anime taking this risk and go more realistic.
Neverthless it was an good episode, and im liking Natsu.


Not to diminish what you're saying because you're right but in the preview he says he's been playing for four months when the tournament starts.
 
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epicm14 said:
He's improving way too quickly, bc it usually takes someone a few years to get a good stroke and there's no way a beginner could return an extremely fast serve like that.
There's no way he can win this upcoming match, unless his opponent forfeits or something.

Is this comment too negative?
dude it's an anime.. do you expect things to make sense compared to the 3-D world? Especially in sports shounen? Pls.
 
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epicm14 said:
He's improving way too quickly, bc it usually takes someone a few years to get a good stroke and there's no way a beginner could return an extremely fast serve like that.
There's no way he can win this upcoming match, unless his opponent forfeits or something.

Is this comment too negative?

I'd say to some degree it definitely has that unrealistic anime nature, but Baby Steps does a much more convincing and believable job of it than most sports series. Maruo doesn't get better just because 'he tries his hardest' or any of that kind of stuff.

Rather there is two things that the series does with Maruo's character. The first being his incredible eyesight which this episode noted for the first time (and it comes in at several points), and the second is his analytic nature. He spends a lot of time in matches taking notes, thinking things through, testing stuff out. The whole point of his character is that he isn't necessarily the 'smart' guy but rather incredibly good at organising data and using it to improve himself or adapt to situations.

Edit: Also people talking about the 1 month thing, it has been more time than that. The series has some strange time skips in the earlier part. I think the 4 months someone else said is correct if I remember correctly.
 
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This episode had the best English I've ever heard in an anime.


omg, now that you mention it, you're right! All other anime have the English sounds so sharp, strong, force, and emotionless. This one sounds so much more natural.
 
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iLostReason said:
Even if you are some kind of talented genius, you won't be able to win against one of tournament's top 5 with 1 month of training.

Anime defies that logic ^
I know right, but thats exactly why i wrote that i wish they would try to be more realistic for once.Let me be a dreamer! D:

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Not to diminish what you're saying because you're right but in the preview he says he's been playing for four months when the tournament starts.
Oh, i see.Well this doesn't change things THAT much, of course he can improve even more in 3 months, but he still imo wouldn't have much chances against someone from top 5.We will see, hopefully im going to be surprised and he loses.
 
Apr 27, 2014 5:09 PM

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Great episode. Can't wait to see the match.
 
Apr 27, 2014 6:22 PM
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Ei-chan and his incredible eyesight at work, and it's great that the coach noticed it. Although Ei-chan wasn't able to successfully return the serve, he was still able to connect with it, and was even hit in the face! :D Getting ready for his first match, he needs to build up his endurance.
 
Apr 27, 2014 9:24 PM
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Very enjoyable episode! :D And the episode stated that 4(!!!) months have passed since he started playing tennis, not just one -- for all those people who have said he has progressed too quickly in one month.

And honestly, 4 months is plenty of time to get the basics and such down and consistent enough. Plus, he never actually returned one of Takuma's serves (they all went out). Even if he was to do it once, there's a thing called consistency. I don't think his growth has been all that abnormal, given how meticulous and diligent he is combined with his incredible eyesight.

Rant aside, it's really neat to see Maruo not care that much about his grades dropping a bit because of how much he cares about tennis. Funny Engrish moments too! xD And Maruo passing out so often is pretty amusing too. I really wonder how he's gonna fare in his first match...
 
Apr 27, 2014 10:33 PM

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AWESOME. I haven't read the manga but the pace seems pretty perfect, they did a lot this episode. I'm really enjoying it so much.
 
Apr 27, 2014 10:49 PM

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Nice Episode, looking forward to Ei-chan's match.
 
Apr 28, 2014 5:38 AM

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The serve return match was very interesting with the basic of returning explaining with such detailed information
Following the youth tournament for Eiichiro's first match it's going to be intense again for sure
 
Apr 28, 2014 6:00 AM
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Looks like Inui from Prince of Tennis has a worthy successor.........all we need are the glasses!

Baby Steps becoming more and more fun with every episode. Sports animes are on a roll this season.

 
Apr 28, 2014 8:25 AM
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Ei-chan already entering a tournament and to be drawn against the 5th seed, ouch. The serve challenge ended with the outcome as expected but for Takuma to change to a real match quality serve shows that he doesn't want anyone to know why he was angry, hope we find out one day. Also Ei-chan getting hit from a serve in the face like that has got to hurt.
 
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iLostReason said:
PremiumCascade said:
iLostReason said:
Even if you are some kind of talented genius, you won't be able to win against one of tournament's top 5 with 1 month of training.

Anime defies that logic ^
I know right, but thats exactly why i wrote that i wish they would try to be more realistic for once.Let me be a dreamer! D:

Well, you can always watch a seinen sports anime. Those tend to be more realistic.
 
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iLostReason said:
PremiumCascade said:
iLostReason said:
Even if you are some kind of talented genius, you won't be able to win against one of tournament's top 5 with 1 month of training.

Anime defies that logic ^
I know right, but thats exactly why i wrote that i wish they would try to be more realistic for once.Let me be a dreamer! D:

Well, you can always watch a seinen sports anime. Those tend to be more realistic.

I was going to watch some of those in near future, but thanks anyways ;)
 
Apr 28, 2014 12:40 PM

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I really like this anime. I hope it becomes popular in Japan so we can get a second season.
 
Apr 28, 2014 2:49 PM

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Well...if he's gonna win, he needs to stop passing out lol
 
Apr 28, 2014 6:21 PM
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I really like this anime. I hope it becomes popular in Japan so we can get a second season.


you forget one thing, it's nhk..and i don't think dvd/bluray sales of this anime will bad
 
Apr 28, 2014 8:24 PM

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Damn Takuma you basically lost.

Maruo has his first match : 0

Dat girl is in love with him

Is that guy Oobayashi?? The one who was listening about Maruo being best and in STC? Never mind its someone different.
 
Apr 28, 2014 9:09 PM

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This is starting to get fun.
Dat megane chick.
 
Apr 29, 2014 8:38 AM

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I took notice of people saying they either don't like the style of the show or they don't like the speed of the characters growth. For me the style is rather refreshing in comparison to the many other high def series being animated. The characters growth to may does seem somewhat fast, but it's not out of the realm of impossibility with his skill set. One could say that even with the speed of Takuma's serve that his rather fast reflexes could in fact return the ball.

I do love this series though. It may not be/ become as good as cross game was "imo" but it's great in it's own right so far.
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Apr 29, 2014 9:21 AM

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Love the episode so far! Had fun laughs here and there and chibi ei-chan and nacchan though <3
awww mannn I just wanna know more about the new characters (meganekko and dat blonde guy)

Natsu's "REFUTOOO REFUTOOO!" <3 it's been awhile since the last time I LOVE female character <3
anticipating for Eiichirou's first match!!
 
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