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Apr 23, 2014 6:25 PM

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shadowcattiger said:
No, I don't feel judged for like naruto hentai...oh emo fags.


Dafuq?

Apr 23, 2014 6:42 PM

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It's not the big 3, but Rurouni Kenshin was one of my first 10 anime and it's still remained with me as a favorite so I feel you on that.

There's a difference between liking the big 3 and only knowing the big 3. Personally I like them all, but humans love to generalize and once they see lots of fans that give off a bad impression, guilt by association kicks in. Also despite what several people will claim, a surprising amount of people really do try to figure out who someone is based on their tastes/interests. That's why you'll see people get treated as retards for loving Angel Beats or people get high-fived and told they're boss if FMA:B is in there.
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with bleach gone and naruto turning into a comedy/spoof in the manga why are we still talking about the big three?
Apr 23, 2014 7:39 PM
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Yes.

It's taboo.
Apr 23, 2014 7:43 PM

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Feel free to enjoy any anime you want. It is not like you need our approval. While haters can be frustrating we are each entitled to our opinion.

I personally enjoyed the big three (well besides the filler episodes).
But that's just one opinion.
Apr 23, 2014 7:45 PM

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StefanHere said:
with bleach gone and naruto turning into a comedy/spoof in the manga why are we still talking about the big three?


Because we still have one piece
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Cupquake said:
StefanHere said:
with bleach gone and naruto turning into a comedy/spoof in the manga why are we still talking about the big three?


Because we still have one piece


It's suppose to end soon.
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mclovinballz said:
Cupquake said:
StefanHere said:
with bleach gone and naruto turning into a comedy/spoof in the manga why are we still talking about the big three?


Because we still have one piece


It's suppose to end soon.
i suppose they're going to find the ultra secret second piece?
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Heredity said:
mclovinballz said:
Cupquake said:
StefanHere said:
with bleach gone and naruto turning into a comedy/spoof in the manga why are we still talking about the big three?


Because we still have one piece


It's suppose to end soon.
i suppose they're going to find the ultra secret second piece?
If that was a spoiler I will end you.
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Heredity said:
mclovinballz said:
Cupquake said:
StefanHere said:
with bleach gone and naruto turning into a comedy/spoof in the manga why are we still talking about the big three?


Because we still have one piece


It's suppose to end soon.
i suppose they're going to find the ultra secret second piece?


No, it turns out it was under Luffy's bed the whole time, they got drunk one night and the finale is going to be like The Hangover.
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mclovinballz said:
Heredity said:
mclovinballz said:
Cupquake said:
StefanHere said:
with bleach gone and naruto turning into a comedy/spoof in the manga why are we still talking about the big three?


Because we still have one piece


It's suppose to end soon.
i suppose they're going to find the ultra secret second piece?


No, it turns out it was under Luffy's bed the whole time, they got drunk one night and the finale is going to be like The Hangover.
and then there's going to be a another piece anime.

'yo dude there was this other pirate and he died and stuff and he was all "i gots meself another piece o' gold 'ere in dunny island" so luffy the strawhat poorat gets up and sails his audi to find another piece (of ass).'

that''s another piece's plot synopsis.
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I personally don't watch any of the big three but there are a lot of people who do and that is perfectly fine.
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Apr 24, 2014 12:58 AM

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I'm being judged upon whether I put Naruto Shippuden in my favorites or not, so it won't make any difference (oh this post just radiates with positive-ness) :P
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Not for One Piece. The others, maybe.
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Yes but I still don't get why you would judge someone for it. I mean, it's no to your tastes, and yes Naruto and Bleach have been going downhill, but it's popular for a reason. It's not like I really care, I'll continue to like whatever I like but I don't really get it. Same with SAO, yes it was bad, but if there are people who still like it let them?
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Shirayukishi said:
Yes but I still don't get why you would judge someone for it. I mean, it's no to your tastes, and yes Naruto and Bleach have been going downhill, but it's popular for a reason. It's not like I really care, I'll continue to like whatever I like but I don't really get it. Same with SAO, yes it was bad, but if there are people who still like it let them?
People judge other people for all anime they watch, not just the big 3.
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Shirayukishi said:
Yes but I still don't get why you would judge someone for it. I mean, it's no to your tastes, and yes Naruto and Bleach have been going downhill, but it's popular for a reason. It's not like I really care, I'll continue to like whatever I like but I don't really get it. Same with SAO, yes it was bad, but if there are people who still like it let them?

In movie sites, people judge other people for what movies they like.
In comic-book sites, people judge other people for what comic-books they like.
In series sites, people judge other people for what series they like.
In music sites, people judge other people for what music they like.

Anime sites are no different.
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It's not my right to judge people based on the anime they like. It's also a non factor in the end anyways because what someone chooses to watch does not necessarily define them.
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IntroverTurtle said:
People judge other people for all anime they watch, not just the big 3.
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Zergneedsfood said:
IntroverTurtle said:
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Yes but I still don't get why you would judge someone for it. I mean, it's no to your tastes, and yes Naruto and Bleach have been going downhill, but it's popular for a reason. It's not like I really care, I'll continue to like whatever I like but I don't really get it. Same with SAO, yes it was bad, but if there are people who still like it let them?
People judge other people for all anime they watch, not just the big 3.


Yeah, it's kind of sad since people discount other's opinion just on the basis that you didn't like or liked a certain work they abhor.

I'm sure it's not just anime, but I rarely have the same kind of ignorant/antagonism when I discuss other mediums with people.


Isn't it natural though? Don't you identify to some degree with your favorite series and what they transport? I certainly don't like my favorite because I can't identify with them at all. As soon as some identification happens it's not that far-fetched to use the favorites or most hated shows of a person to judge them to some degree, especially in the context of an anime website.


@galimx: yes.
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Apr 24, 2014 9:36 AM
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I think it's really fucking stupid how One Piece fans look down on Naruto and Bleach fans in this forum
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I think it's really fucking stupid how One Piece fans look down on Naruto and Bleach fans in this forum

I really don't. As long as they don't spread hate about OP (and even then I don't judge tsud that much). I do enjoy Naruto a lot, I just love One Piece that much more.

@Zerg: Well, that's more of a general problem. You CAN judge people based on their taste or anything else, but you should reflect on how strongly you judge them, is what you're saying, or not? I totally agree, I do judge people for thinking series I consider utterly bad in every form and shape are the 'best animu ever', but it's not set in stone that I can't find any similarities with them.

It's more of a general problem that people judge too harshly and too 'definitely' on relatively irrelevant aspects, anime is just one example. I just wanted to clarify that simply judging someone based on their taste is not that absurd, but the degree to which they do it makes it either reasonable or not.
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Andan210 said:
Shirayukishi said:
Yes but I still don't get why you would judge someone for it. I mean, it's no to your tastes, and yes Naruto and Bleach have been going downhill, but it's popular for a reason. It's not like I really care, I'll continue to like whatever I like but I don't really get it. Same with SAO, yes it was bad, but if there are people who still like it let them?

In movie sites, people judge other people for what movies they like.
In comic-book sites, people judge other people for what comic-books they like.
In series sites, people judge other people for what series they like.
In music sites, people judge other people for what music they like.

Anime sites are no different.
Andan210 said:
Shirayukishi said:
Yes but I still don't get why you would judge someone for it. I mean, it's no to your tastes, and yes Naruto and Bleach have been going downhill, but it's popular for a reason. It's not like I really care, I'll continue to like whatever I like but I don't really get it. Same with SAO, yes it was bad, but if there are people who still like it let them?

In movie sites, people judge other people for what movies they like.
In comic-book sites, people judge other people for what comic-books they like.
In series sites, people judge other people for what series they like.
In music sites, people judge other people for what music they like.

Anime sites are no different.
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Well that's actually true, that's a good one. I guess it's just human nature to judge. Well, it's something we all do.
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galimx said:
One Piece > Naruto > Bleach

yes/no?


I consider one piece to be the worst one out of those 3. the fishmen arc finally made it clear to me that I don't want to continue watching that never ending sad excuse of a "story". I'll read the manga in 20 years from now to find out how (or if) it ends...
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Zergneedsfood said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:

It's more of a general problem that people judge too harshly and too 'definitely' on relatively irrelevant aspects, anime is just one example. I just wanted to clarify that simply judging someone based on their taste is not that absurd, but the degree to which they do it makes it either reasonable or not.


I mean, yeah, I never said it's wrong to judge people.

I am merely saying that, in my experience, the hate that people receive for liking anime, especially stuff like OP/Naruto/Bleach is disproportionately worse compared to other discussions I've had concerning books or film, and this includes discussions I've had on YA Fiction (which can get a bad rep) and summer action blockbusters (which people often label as brainless entertainment).

And often times the Big Three (or whatever other anime in question) is rarely brought up in the discussion. Someone just sees a statement by someone, disagrees with it, and then goes to their profile to load up on their ammunition with stuff like "Wow this moeshit" or "Big Three noob" without bothering to formulate a more critical response.

That's my big problem, that people are just judged on their tastes without even openly displaying it, their opinions secondary to whatever things that they've liked, which shouldn't be happening.

I mean, I could change up all my favorites to display all the moe that I like (so like K-On/Nichijou), and I guarantee my opinions would be way more likelier to be made fun of regardless of whether or not said opinions have anything to do with my like of the above shows.


It's probably true, but I think you're slightly exaggerating here. I've been in many debates and if you want to talk about content you'll also find people to talk about content. Sometimes it's just easier to dismiss a person from the start though if you think chances are 90% or higher you'll never agree on anything in the first place because of how different your tastes are. The easiest way out is to disregard the other person's taste and deny the possibility of getting through to him because of that. It's not nice, but I think it's often for the better of both parties.

As for your last paragraph, sure some people will judge solely based on favorites and not on overall taste, but that's kinda stupid. As long as your list doesn't back up whatever cliché the other party is trying to use to discredit you, it can usually be dismissed with a one-liner, no big deal. Also if you write coherent posts and don't have extremely stupid/uninformed opinions that you try to spread, people are much less likely to ignore your contents and just insult you with a one-liner based on your taste. Sure there are assholes who don't care, but mostly the content or the way people posted are partly responsible for people being quick to judge them. Personally I've never been attacked for my favorites, worst thing that has happened was being called an elitist because of LOGH and given that I'm in the LOGH Elitist Club I can very well live with that.
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I´ve seen only 1 episode of Bleach so far so I can´t judge. Naruto would be actually pretty good without all them fillers. And one Piec is just One Piece, the same as Fairy Tail, you either like it or hate it. Also, I don´t like people who assume that any "mainstream" anime is bad.
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I'd say, people can like and dislike, watch and ignore whatever they want.
But what pisses me the most is when people butt in specific anime forum discussions, and start to bash the show because it has suddenly jumped up few spots on MAL top anime list.

Hey, if you like Naruto. Good for you. Go into Naruto forum and have fun discussing the episodes with other people who like Naruto.
And if you like OP, go into OP forum and have fun discussing the episodes there.
If you like both, even better for you.

But when some anime suddenly jumps up on MAL ranking, and surpasses your big 3, you instantly go into the other anime forum discussions and ask for a fight from that shows fan-base.

Just because this other "now popular" anime is conflicting with your taste of anime, that doesn't mean it's conflicting with other members taste of anime.

Just as your free to rank your show 10, everyone else is free to rank their "now popular" show a 10.

So the best advice here on MAL it would be:
Stick to what you want to watch, and don't butt in other specific forum anime just to bash the shows.

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Zergneedsfood said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:

It's more of a general problem that people judge too harshly and too 'definitely' on relatively irrelevant aspects, anime is just one example. I just wanted to clarify that simply judging someone based on their taste is not that absurd, but the degree to which they do it makes it either reasonable or not.


I mean, yeah, I never said it's wrong to judge people.

I am merely saying that, in my experience, the hate that people receive for liking anime, especially stuff like OP/Naruto/Bleach is disproportionately worse compared to other discussions I've had concerning books or film, and this includes discussions I've had on YA Fiction (which can get a bad rep) and summer action blockbusters (which people often label as brainless entertainment).

And often times the Big Three (or whatever other anime in question) is rarely brought up in the discussion. Someone just sees a statement by someone, disagrees with it, and then goes to their profile to load up on their ammunition with stuff like "Wow this moeshit" or "Big Three noob" without bothering to formulate a more critical response.

That's my big problem, that people are just judged on their tastes without even openly displaying it, their opinions secondary to whatever things that they've liked, which shouldn't be happening.

I mean, I could change up all my favorites to display all the moe that I like (so like K-On/Nichijou), and I guarantee my opinions would be way more likelier to be made fun of regardless of whether or not said opinions have anything to do with my like of the above shows.


It's probably true, but I think you're slightly exaggerating here. I've been in many debates and if you want to talk about content you'll also find people to talk about content. Sometimes it's just easier to dismiss a person from the start though if you think chances are 90% or higher you'll never agree on anything in the first place because of how different your tastes are. The easiest way out is to disregard the other person's taste and deny the possibility of getting through to him because of that. It's not nice, but I think it's often for the better of both parties.
Not nice? That's one hell of a euphemism. No matter how you look at it dismissing someone's taste to justify the impossibility of coming to an agreement at the end of a potential discussion is pretty fucking rude. There are more sensible ways to do this without coming off as a dick just because you and you only are certain a discussion with the other partie will go nowhere or because you don't feel like getting into an argument at the moment.
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Sapewloth said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Zergneedsfood said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:

It's more of a general problem that people judge too harshly and too 'definitely' on relatively irrelevant aspects, anime is just one example. I just wanted to clarify that simply judging someone based on their taste is not that absurd, but the degree to which they do it makes it either reasonable or not.


I mean, yeah, I never said it's wrong to judge people.

I am merely saying that, in my experience, the hate that people receive for liking anime, especially stuff like OP/Naruto/Bleach is disproportionately worse compared to other discussions I've had concerning books or film, and this includes discussions I've had on YA Fiction (which can get a bad rep) and summer action blockbusters (which people often label as brainless entertainment).

And often times the Big Three (or whatever other anime in question) is rarely brought up in the discussion. Someone just sees a statement by someone, disagrees with it, and then goes to their profile to load up on their ammunition with stuff like "Wow this moeshit" or "Big Three noob" without bothering to formulate a more critical response.

That's my big problem, that people are just judged on their tastes without even openly displaying it, their opinions secondary to whatever things that they've liked, which shouldn't be happening.

I mean, I could change up all my favorites to display all the moe that I like (so like K-On/Nichijou), and I guarantee my opinions would be way more likelier to be made fun of regardless of whether or not said opinions have anything to do with my like of the above shows.


It's probably true, but I think you're slightly exaggerating here. I've been in many debates and if you want to talk about content you'll also find people to talk about content. Sometimes it's just easier to dismiss a person from the start though if you think chances are 90% or higher you'll never agree on anything in the first place because of how different your tastes are. The easiest way out is to disregard the other person's taste and deny the possibility of getting through to him because of that. It's not nice, but I think it's often for the better of both parties.
Not nice? That's one hell of a euphemism. No matter how you look at it dismissing someone's taste to justify the impossibility of coming to an agreement at the end of a potential discussion is pretty fucking rude. There are more sensible ways to do this without coming off as a dick just because you and you only are certain a discussion with the other partie will go nowhere or because you don't feel like getting into an argument at the moment.


It's the easiest and quickest way though, which are the most important factors on the Internet for most people. It's just how people work.
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entTaff said:
I'd say, people can like and dislike, watch and ignore whatever they want.
But what pisses me the most is when people butt in specific anime forum discussions, and start to bash the show because it has suddenly jumped up few spots on MAL top anime list.

Hey, if you like Naruto. Good for you. Go into Naruto forum and have fun discussing the episodes with other people who like Naruto.
And if you like OP, go into OP forum and have fun discussing the episodes there.
If you like both, even better for you.

But when some anime suddenly jumps up on MAL ranking, and surpasses your big 3, you instantly go into the other anime forum discussions and ask for a fight from that shows fan-base.

Just because this other "now popular" anime is conflicting with your taste of anime, that doesn't mean it's conflicting with other members taste of anime.

Just as your free to rank your show 10, everyone else is free to rank their "now popular" show a 10.

So the best advice here on MAL it would be:
Stick to what you want to watch, and don't butt in other specific forum anime just to bash the shows.

Sorry for the somewhat big post. Here is a picture of a banana:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Banana-Single.jpg


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anyone who would just immediately write you off for something like that isn't worthy of your time anyway...
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Fairy tail > the big 3

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rederoin said:
Fairy tail > the big 3

Noooo sorry I'd have to disagree.
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rederoin said:
Fairy tail > the big 3
Almost any other battle shounen > Fairy Tail
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IntroverTurtle said:
rederoin said:
Fairy tail > the big 3
Almost any other battle shounen > One Piece

Fixed.

Sorry couldn't resist.


Someone is probably gonna fix it into ''Almost any other battle shounen < One Piece''
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IntroverTurtle said:
rederoin said:
Fairy tail > the big 3
Almost any other battle shounen > Fairy Tail

C'mon now.. =/
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Fairy tail > the big 3
Almost any other battle shounen < One Piece

Fixed.

Sorry couldn't resist.
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IntroverTurtle said:
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Fairy tail > the big 3
Almost any other battle shounen > Fairy Tail

C'mon now.. =/
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Stop lying to yourselves, we all know fairy tail is #1
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Stop lying to yourselves, we all know one piece is #1


Fixed (and actual fact).
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People judge you for everything you like whether it's anime/manga or not. Personally it doesn't really bother me if someone I don't know on the internet judges me for liking One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, or Toriko.
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I personally am not much for the big 3. Naruto has never appealed to me, since I started watching anime. Though I have considered watching Bleach and One Piece, but I doubt I ever will.

But I don't judge people for liking those anime's. My personal genre favourites are Shoujo (atm) so I am clearly not going to favour types like the big 3. My favourite anime though is Fairy Tail and I almost didn't watch it due to so much hate towards it from people saying that "it's not all it's cracked up to be" etc. I watched it just to see if it was and I was proven wrong.

It's likely that these who are haters have either never watched one episode of any of the big anime's and just follow the crowd or are just major a-holes that aren't worth the time.
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JD2411 said:
Stop lying to yourselves, we all know Inferno Cop is #1


Fixed (and actual fact).


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I don't give a shit what these hardcore anime elitists think about me if I am watching the big 3. If I am not a "real" anime fan then be it.
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Who cares what people think about your favorite cartoons/comic books haha. One Piece doesn't get much hate because it is widely loved, and Bleach doesn't get much either ever since the anime ended. Naruto and Fairy Tail get it the worst these days.
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Since Bleach has ended I assume the current big three is Toriko, One Piece and Naruto.

Of which I all like. Though naruto tends to enter filler phases once in a while.

Well it IS true that Naruto Shippuden has been going downhill after the Pain arc. I like Naruto a lot, but ever since the war arc I don't enjoy it as much really, the same was for Bleach in it's last episodes. I guess that's also a reason why people dislike the series, yet I wish people would just recognize the worth of the original storyline.
One Piece on the other hand is still getting better and better with the episode.

Confining the Jinchuuriki arc
-Naruto vs Kurama
-Kushina flashbacks (best episodes in the series in my opinion)
-Gaara's speech
That arc was near-perfect in my opinion, had some of my favorite moments in the whole series and it was relatively short. Kage Summit was more entertaining than most of the stuff in the series as well imo

Thought the war arc was pretty awesome from when (Spoiler for people who aren't past episode 321 of Shippuden)
(though it had its ups and downs mind you).
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Stop lying to yourselves, we all know Inferno Cop is #1


Fixed (and actual fact).


QFT


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Fairy tail > the big 3
Big 3, Dragon Ball Kai >>>>>Fairy Tail.
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I judge you all regardless of what you watch.
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Only one of the Big 3 I like is One Piece. Bleach is horrid and Naruto is somewhere in between, but closer to Bleach than One Piece. Even then, if you like Bleach or Naruto, it's not like I'm gonna hate you. I think these threads subtly attacking "elitists" need to go. They really don't do much for discussion, but rather just vent the OP's frustration with their own insecurities about their cartoons.
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Good question,

I just mentally cringe going, "those shows . . .are just so for profit . . .such awful storytelling . . ." As long as I can be sure said person watches other anime, I will be content.
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3 of my top 5 are shounen (hajime no ippo, one piece, and hunter x hunter) and i've watched a good amount of anime to say that i really do like shounen and im fine with that
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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