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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Mm, some flashbacks. Mini Saya is pretty cute <3 We get more sweet moments with her and Riki this episode too. Still, they have to fight their final battle. LOL, Riki's hair this episode.... So much feels. |
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| SAYA'S SONG FTW ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4yKSiRPG2o And J.C staff's only explanation about the ending in the booklet : 答えがなく、視聴者の想像に委ねられる |
| okay, I do understand the manga part and the fact she's kinda a outsider in that world, but can someone explain me how Saya was inside the fake world? If I understand right, Saya had an accident, then she enter to the fake world, but she was only a little girl so I can assume the artificial world did not exist at that time since the bus accident did not happen yet so how she enter to the world? Or I'm missing something? |
SinnonApr 22, 2014 1:14 PM
| Saya's Song. Such feels. Next episode, it's time to hear The Cat, The Glass, and The Round Moon~. |
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| Pretty sad what happened to Saya but overall a very good episode indeed. |
| Amazing episode indeed. God damn feels. |
Murasa22Apr 24, 2014 2:46 AM
| Sad what happened to her :( Damn amazing episode that was. May have taken 4 episodes but it does done well. |
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| I almost like this adaptation as much saya's vn story! ...*crys :,o |
| Jun Maeda's stories always make me cry. This is the best one. This is story about life, love, will to live, will to love, will to fight for it. |
| They cut out 90% of Aya's past,no minigun,no bento scene,Aya's accident right after she met shota Riki is such a nice awful coincidence,no indications whatsoever about Saya taking away Riki from LB! group. They basically took out everything I like about Saya's arc but at least it's a good things Saya's song still sound as wonderful. |
| Really liked Saya! Wished she was the girl Riki ends up in the original/parent story instead of Rin. |
You can just be yourself. Do things your own way, one step at a time. You'll get there. Just be yourself, you'll be fine." ~Fruit Basket |
| The song was great! It really went along with the atmosphere. That was depressing T.T, glad they showed what happened with Saya in the aftermath. Really happy with the ending yet sad overall. Haven't played the VN, but the anime adaption was done in a good way. Kyousuke was really nice! The scenes were Saya dies are hard to watch at times... |
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| aaand with that I'm breathing a sigh of relief, think it was a really good adaptation of the finale at least obviously the entire route is a bit weird to adapt given how much it relies on gameplay mechanics in the VN but given the circumstances I think JC did just fine Saya-tan <3 |
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| Ending as expected, gotta say I was expecting a bit more though. |
| Part of Refrain Subs for Little Busters!: Refrain Recently Played/Read VNS (Most Recent to Oldest): - Da Capo - Grisaia no Kajitsu - ef - a fairy tale of the two - G-senjou no Maou - Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo & Sharin no Kuni, Yuukyuu no Shounenshoujo (Fan Disk) - Rewrite - Hoshizora no Memoria -Wish upon a shooting star- - Clannad - Little Busters EX! |
| I didn't play EX so this was epic for me :DD Did Saya's soul maybe wander into the world... because the bus accident took place near where she died years ago or smth? Anyway this was surprisingly good cos I was getting a bit bored of Saya's route for the first few eps, but now I know what the hype was about. i luv key~ Dat ending gave tears of joy TwT |
| That was a sad past for Saya. I love that ending. Made me cry a bit. |
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Sinnon said: okay, I do understand the manga part and the fact she's kinda a outsider in that world, but can someone explain me how Saya was inside the fake world? If I understand right, Saya had an accident, then she enter to the fake world, but she was only a little girl so I can assume the artificial world did not exist at that time since the bus accident did not happen yet so how she enter to the world? Or I'm missing something? Basically Saya's soul wouldn't rest because it was full of regret so it had been wondering around since she died until it wondered into Kyousuke's created world. It could very well be why she appears older (the same age as Riki) |
| Gotta admit I expected a bit more. The sad scenes were not sad for me. I expected to at least shed a tear. Well its still a great episode. Hope I see Saya/Aya more on the next episodes. |
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| What the? I don't get it. Why Saya alive and come back as a child? Didn't she died when she was a child, her soul wandering and when Riki in his teenage, got an accident, Kyousuke created the dream world. And Aya got in as Saya in the dream world. That means if she came back alive, she should be in her teenage too. Or was it because of that 'time machine' thing? Saya come back to the day before the flood accident and alive till her teenage? Summary, to the parallel world? But if that's the truth, Kyousuke, what a god are you, first create the dream world for everyone, now you can send back Saya/Aya to her child age, create a parallel world for her, and save her. Why don't you use that time machine for everyone so that they come back to the time when the bus accident didn't occur yet? Everyone who has the answer, please bring me some light to this >< But, that Saya's Song was indeed touching and set the mood right. Great episode btw, but lacking some mood because that complicated things. |
| For godsake ! Kyousuke was lying about the time machine ! Stop believing his white lie like Riki did ! |
| Yeah,Kyousuke doesn't know what happened to Saya after her leaving. He told Riki that about the time machine to cheer him up because Riki need to concentrate in the main problem (become stronger) again. I'm still amazed in Riki ability to accept things so fast though lmao About the episode,I didn't like how they handled the thing about her accident, it was very confusing indeed. |
kohalicApr 24, 2014 11:49 AM
| Nice little arc. Quite possibly better than the actual main series. |
majestix1988 said: goshujin_sama241 said: Sinnon said: okay, I do understand the manga part and the fact she's kinda a outsider in that world, but can someone explain me how Saya was inside the fake world? If I understand right, Saya had an accident, then she enter to the fake world, but she was only a little girl so I can assume the artificial world did not exist at that time since the bus accident did not happen yet so how she enter to the world? Or I'm missing something? Basically Saya's soul wouldn't rest because it was full of regret so it had been wondering around since she died until it wondered into Kyousuke's created world. It could very well be why she appears older (the same age as Riki) nope wrong answer technically she is not really dead...it just Riki doesnt remember her while her future self so caring about him that could technically could not approach him[think of Tomoya of Clannad: He forget everything about Kotomi due her death of her parents and that fire incident] it could affect him if he remember her that could lead more necrolepsy and pain on Riki meanwhile on that world created by kyousuke [ she is more pushy/childlike personality due being a child on teenage body] meanwhile that fake world is like Afterlife of Angel Beats[everyone can enter on different timelines or near death experience or dream world] its puppy love.... She is dead or was. It is even stated by Kyousuke that her soul wondered into his world. However just like all members of Little Busters (minus Riki and Rin) their lives are save due to the events that happened in Kyousuke's world. Saya even repeats the same same scenarios over and over again just like Riki did during his time in Kyousuke's world. She may be alive now but she was definitely dead from her childhood accident til the Kyousuke's world. Look up Saya's arc in the visual novel. A lot is omitted from the anime. |
It was beautifully adapted and "Saya's Song" song by Lia as just amazing. If the whole story was told, Saya's Arc could have been a "10" by itself. It was almost like being teased. |
goshujin_sama241Apr 24, 2014 2:35 PM
| I just let the tears flow :') very good episodes though but we only get 4 episodes now with two more characters left. Not going to be as climatic, i assume :( |
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| Saya's Song. That is all. Feels to the max!!! |
| They didn't add my fav scenes from Saya's route but I guess with only 4 episodes at hand, they wanted to get to the point. Still love saya and her route :) scared for next episode thought cause based on the preview, animation quality went down. |
| In the spoiler tag of Saya's character description it said that she was on the verge of death when she noticed Kyousuke creating the artificial world. How was she able to do that if her incident took place years before the Little Busters' accident? |
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| This is not okay i cried so much ;___; and then in the last few minutes key did that and just made me flip over in my chair, i seriously did not see that coming (i couldn't breathe for a few minutes it was scary but right). Key really knows how to punch their fans with their works dear god |
| I made a whole post about this before but it got deleted... Screw that. Saya has one of the saddest back-stories in this anime... What a bittersweet/ almost sweet turned into happy end. Really liked the end scene. One of the best routes of Little Buster imo. 9/10 |
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| It was great until they reached the 60th floor. Then shit was crammed in order fit the episode length. I really hope JC Staff didn't shoot themselves in the foot by giving themselves only 8 episodes of standard length to work with. |
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| Damn, JC Staff did a pretty good job for Saya's route, though it felt rushed towards the end. But it was tear-jerking during their final moments at the end. Lets see how they handle the next 4 episodes. |
| Not shabby little arc for Saya. I really oughta play the game to see the full route in all its glory. Saya's song is quite beautiful too! :) |
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| Who takes their daughter to a war zone? |
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gamer2710 said: It was great until they reached the 60th floor. Then shit was crammed in order fit the episode length. I really hope JC Staff didn't shoot themselves in the foot by giving themselves only 8 episodes of standard length to work with. Good thing I'm not only one who thinks that it crammed on the later parts of this episode. |
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-Riptide- said: In the spoiler tag of Saya's character description it said that she was on the verge of death when she noticed Kyousuke creating the artificial world. How was she able to do that if her incident took place years before the Little Busters' accident? Key's magic Lol And talk about that spoiler tag in Saya's profile. One day, when Saya and her father were about to return to Japan and end their traveling, Aya became involved in an accident due to a flood. This part is little bit wrong since Aya got in the accident when she was already back in Japan. And some people seem to misunderstood but at the end Aya wasn't wake up in a hospital/clinic,she woke up in the worker's shack,she and her father was living in near a construction site. The landslide was caused by heavy rain+ construction accident,Aya got caught in landslide while trying to help her father evacuating the wounded workers there. |
Sinnon said: okay, I do understand the manga part and the fact she's kinda a outsider in that world, but can someone explain me how Saya was inside the fake world? If I understand right, Saya had an accident, then she enter to the fake world, but she was only a little girl so I can assume the artificial world did not exist at that time since the bus accident did not happen yet so how she enter to the world? Or I'm missing something? Well, time is abstract in the fake world. It's not connected to the real world's time, so it just exists and anybody within the real world can jump in at any point in history. The way I like to see it is that the artificial always existed in some way or another, but it wasn't until the Little Busters found it that it took any kind of form. Or another way of looking at it, if you really want to look deep into it, is perhaps the artificial world is a type of time machine, which is why Saya talks about time machines (I know this is a stretch, but hey, it works) and when the Little Busters were essentially dead, they came across the artificial world and by entering it, went back to the creation of the universe, so in some way the artificial world was always there as a copy of their school and they lived through it over and over. |
| I have so many questions..... Fuck you kyousuke... |
| Nice ending to this arc. |
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| Great arc^^ Ishoku said: Quite possibly better than the actual main series. I seriously like this more than the main series. |
| Toddler Saya and Riki! x3 So cute! Anyways....so it seems that there was no other way for Saya to....survive? o-o Or, something like that? It seems that way, but wow! What a sad route....I didn't expect it to end like that: Happy, but really sad ending. :/ It was fun watching these specials, so far, I mean. :3 Can't wait for the last 4 episodes~! x3 |
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Tha_Na said: Great arc^^ Ishoku said: Quite possibly better than the actual main series. I seriously like this more than the main series. yay saya for best arccc i dun care anymore |
trasal said: planetarian said: I have so many questions..... Fuck you kyousuke... Lol, thats also what I felt the first time I finished Saya's route although I respected him so much in the main story. But can't really blame him, the existence of Saya could make Riki wouldn't want to realize that there's something weird about their world or would even make him stay after knowing it, and Saya herself knew it. That world gave her the first experience of being a youth, gave her a chance to meet her childhood friend, gave her a chance to experience love. That's why, like the lyrics in Saya's Song "anything more would be just my selfishness". I'm probably one of the few ones who didn't felt like 'fuck you Kyousuke' at all after Saya's route in the VN even Saya being my fav girl, but Kyousuke is the best character imo and actually I quite like Kyousuke more after her route and he's my husbando, I mean, his position just sucks, being him the only one who can deal with the situation. Firstly I think he was too nice with her, I say 'too nice' because hell, even Saya stated: "You could've gotten rid of me anytime if you really wanted to", basically that, Kyousuke could snap his fingers and *baff* Saya disappear without know anything, but I think he still feel bad for her situation and try to help her in a way, allowing her to replay the game and thus she could spend short periods of time with Riki until she get satisfied, however, that kinda mess things up more because Saya love for Riki become stronger after each replay, so she'll never be satisfied and I think that was his bigger mistake, not rid of her since the very beginning but hell, who can blame him, eliminate the existence of somebody is even more cruel. Basically he tried to help her, but he can't help Saya THAT much, because help her to be happy mean allow her be with Riki as a couple and that's just impossible, not just because it'll contradict the main reason for him creating the world, but because Saya is dead, no matter how hard she fight, she can't win against her destiny, and Riki would be the most affected in the end. But as you said, "anything more would be just my selfishness" and basically that's the main reason of why Saya decided to moving on and leave. Not to mention that Saya existence for itself is like a living proof of the secret of the world. Just imagine that, Kyousuke never do anything and: "hey Riki-kun, the truth is, I had an accident some years ago and I supposed to be dead and I just wanted to meet with you again but now is time for me to moving on, and sorry for make you stray away from your friends, actually they're going to die too and the only survivor will be Natsume Rin so forget about me and take care of her." Srly, poor Riki. Everything is more complicated than it seems, and don't forget that actually, in the VN, Riki start to stray away from the LB because he prefer spend his time with Saya and he even start to act kinda like a jerk with Rin, and in the anime it was completely removed, if I remember correctly, most the the funny activities of the LB as a group are locked in Saya's route because Riki is too busy being with her. Actually that's the main reason of why I like Saya's route, because I could relate with both, the heroine and the 'villian' at the same time, and that doesn't happen everyday. |
kohalicApr 28, 2014 1:48 PM
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