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Apr 14, 2014 6:43 PM

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Kibura_Iburasa said:
You know what crying gets you? nothing but dry sore eyes. Its not going to make problems go away or any better, sometimes I suppose it just happens depending on the situation, if so get it done and get over or in control of the problem after. If it helps someone then so be it, its just tears but if someone just cries at anything or all the time then its not helping is it.


Yeah man, fuck crying, that's totally pointless and isn't an outlet at all when something is out of your control, let's just bottle it all up and punch a wall when you get really pissed off.
 
Apr 14, 2014 6:43 PM

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You shouldn't be afraid of crying or showing weakness.
Everyone has some weakness.
Of course if you cry all the time that's not exactly a sign of strength either.
That's just weak.

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Apr 14, 2014 6:45 PM

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Ferolex said:

Yeah man, fuck crying, that's totally pointless and isn't an outlet at all when something is out of your control, let's just bottle it all up and punch a wall when you get really pissed off.


Did you read anything I wrote or did you just react.
 
Apr 14, 2014 6:46 PM

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Kibura_Iburasa said:
Ferolex said:

Yeah man, fuck crying, that's totally pointless and isn't an outlet at all when something is out of your control, let's just bottle it all up and punch a wall when you get really pissed off.


Did you read anything I wrote or did you just react.


Mainly applies to your first sentence, people who cry over EVERYTHING are just looking for attention/being crybabies... but crying sometimes isn't pointless and doesn't only result in dry eyes... it feels good to cry sometimes.
 
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Ferolex said:
Kibura_Iburasa said:
You know what crying gets you? nothing but dry sore eyes. Its not going to make problems go away or any better, sometimes I suppose it just happens depending on the situation, if so get it done and get over or in control of the problem after. If it helps someone then so be it, its just tears but if someone just cries at anything or all the time then its not helping is it.


Yeah man, fuck crying, that's totally pointless and isn't an outlet at all when something is out of your control, let's just bottle it all up and punch a wall when you get really pissed off.

Get a hand fracture and go to hospital and pay for the charges.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Apr 14, 2014 6:48 PM

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Ferolex said:

Mainly applies to your first sentence, people who cry over EVERYTHING are just looking for attention/being crybabies... but crying sometimes isn't pointless and doesn't only result in dry eyes... it feels good to cry sometimes.


Thats why I said if it helps someone then go at it but don't cry all the time over your problems because that won't make em go away.

I was a kid once (shocker I know) and I cried every day and night and it didn't change a god damn thing. I certainly didn't feel any better, in fact I felt smaller, weaker every time I did it.
 
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My fault, I do agree with that, but I think the same applies with women.. you shouldn't just start crying in front of a bunch of random people for attention... and you should be able to hold it back a bit more when you're an adult.
Yes, but women shouldn't have the same pressure on them, as they feel more pain, and are weaker both mentally and physically. Same with children.


"Mentally" weaker?

...seriously?!1/


Stick an equal number of men and women through SF selection and see which side has the most drop outs.
 
Apr 14, 2014 6:49 PM

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People who desperately cling to gender roles are really pathetic in my opinion, and honestly holding society back.

It's primitive.
Not that I'm gonna disagree, but there is some pride to be had in what you were born as by doing so.
Maybe I'm just not reading right, but I actually don't know what you are saying.
 
Apr 14, 2014 6:55 PM

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I think crying is a sign of being able to emphathize, whether that shows strength or weakness? Depending on the situation could be either.
 
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mclovinballz said:
LadyRenly said:
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My fault, I do agree with that, but I think the same applies with women.. you shouldn't just start crying in front of a bunch of random people for attention... and you should be able to hold it back a bit more when you're an adult.
Yes, but women shouldn't have the same pressure on them, as they feel more pain, and are weaker both mentally and physically. Same with children.


"Mentally" weaker?

...seriously?!1/


Stick an equal number of men and women through SF selection and see which side has the most drop outs.


That's physical, and not what I was talking about...
 
Apr 14, 2014 6:57 PM

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Red_Keys said:
Korrvo said:
Red_Keys said:
People who desperately cling to gender roles are really pathetic in my opinion, and honestly holding society back.

It's primitive.
Not that I'm gonna disagree, but there is some pride to be had in what you were born as by doing so.
Maybe I'm just not reading right, but I actually don't know what you are saying.

I think he's saying that by acting like how a man is supposed to act (following his gender role), you're showing the pride you have to be born as one?
Hell, that was confusing.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

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Apr 14, 2014 6:59 PM

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LadyRenly said:
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Ferolex said:
My fault, I do agree with that, but I think the same applies with women.. you shouldn't just start crying in front of a bunch of random people for attention... and you should be able to hold it back a bit more when you're an adult.
Yes, but women shouldn't have the same pressure on them, as they feel more pain, and are weaker both mentally and physically. Same with children.


"Mentally" weaker?

...seriously?!1/


Stick an equal number of men and women through SF selection and see which side has the most drop outs.


That's physical, and not what I was talking about...


Go watch "Two weeks in Hell" and see what kind of fuck fuck games the instructors do to play with people's minds.
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LadyRenly said:
mclovinballz said:
LadyRenly said:
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My fault, I do agree with that, but I think the same applies with women.. you shouldn't just start crying in front of a bunch of random people for attention... and you should be able to hold it back a bit more when you're an adult.
Yes, but women shouldn't have the same pressure on them, as they feel more pain, and are weaker both mentally and physically. Same with children.


"Mentally" weaker?

...seriously?!1/


Stick an equal number of men and women through SF selection and see which side has the most drop outs.


That's physical, and not what I was talking about...


It's actually both physical and very much mental/emotional, just saying. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with either of you because I'm not in the mood to deal with the inevitable bullshit that'd ensue.
 
Apr 14, 2014 7:03 PM

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Sapewloth said:
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Yes, but women shouldn't have the same pressure on them, as they feel more pain, and are weaker both mentally and physically.

Source plz.
If I told you the earth was round, would you also be asking for a source?

For one, women have more pain receptors than men, and this is a commonly known fact. There's a reason why women need more painkillers than men do.

As to being mentally weaker, this is also a known fact. Women are more prone to stress, depression, PTSD, and are more likely to attempt suicide (you can attribute some of this to social factors, but I think it's clear who the weaker sex is). Men are simply better at dealing with pain, whether emotional or physical.

mclovinballz chose to mention SF selection, which is another good example. Feel free to google ''women in the army'', and see what comes up.

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That's physical, and not what I was talking about...
One needs both a strong mind and body to be able to handle that stuff, and women lack both (generally speaking).
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Apr 14, 2014 7:06 PM

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Red_Keys said:
Korrvo said:
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People who desperately cling to gender roles are really pathetic in my opinion, and honestly holding society back.

It's primitive.
Not that I'm gonna disagree, but there is some pride to be had in what you were born as by doing so.
Maybe I'm just not reading right, but I actually don't know what you are saying.
There is pride to be had in acting like what you were born as, basically.

Too tired to english today.

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I think he's saying that by acting like how a man is supposed to act (following his gender role), you're showing the pride you have to be born as one?
Hell, that was confusing.
Yea what he said.^
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And you still need a source, Bossling, they've recently relaxed women not being in infantry roles in the Marines -- you're telling people to go look up outdated regulations not allowing women into specific military roles and using that as proof? . . . lol

I could say the opposite of everything you just said and sound just as accurate, the earth being round is definitely not a good analogy here
 
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And you still need a source, Bossling, they've recently relaxed women not being in infantry roles in the Marines -- you're telling people to go look up outdated regulations not allowing women into specific military roles and using that as proof? . . . lol
Actually, I didn't mention anything about regulations. I just asked people to look up women in the army in general.

http://www.livescience.com/433-ouch-women-feel-pain.html

http://www.livescience.com/10707-study-women-sensitive-stress.html

Lime_ said:
I could say the opposite of everything you just said and sound just as accurate, the earth being round is definitely not a good analogy here
It is the perfect analogy to make.
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Apr 14, 2014 7:24 PM

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BryanBossling said:
Sapewloth said:
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Yes, but women shouldn't have the same pressure on them, as they feel more pain, and are weaker both mentally and physically.

Source plz.
If I told you the earth was round, would you also be asking for a source?

For one, women have more pain receptors than men, and this is a commonly known fact. There's a reason why women need more painkillers than men do.

As to being mentally weaker, this is also a known fact. Women are more prone to stress, depression, PTSD, and are more likely to attempt suicide (you can attribute some of this to social factors, but I think it's clear who the weaker sex is). Men are simply better at dealing with pain, whether emotional or physical.

mclovinballz chose to mention SF selection, which is another good example. Feel free to google ''women in the army'', and see what comes up.

There's a difference between a known and undeniable fact that can be confirmed via google, countless school books and satellite pics and a blanket statement made by an internet user & based on data which itself depends on a even larger number of factors.
Of course you're gonna be biased in your interpretation of said data and disregard the influence on other social factors so that it fits your point.

I already know the percentage of women in the army (at least in the french and US armies) no data available for the rate of drop outs so what to do with mclovin' example?
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Apr 14, 2014 7:25 PM

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Sapewloth said:
Red_Keys said:
Korrvo said:
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People who desperately cling to gender roles are really pathetic in my opinion, and honestly holding society back.

It's primitive.
Not that I'm gonna disagree, but there is some pride to be had in what you were born as by doing so.
Maybe I'm just not reading right, but I actually don't know what you are saying.
I think he's saying that by acting like how a man is supposed to act (following his gender role), you're showing the pride you have to be born as one?
Hell, that was confusing.
My take on this is that while it's reasonable to "reject" gender roles on an intellectual level, it's not reasonable, or even possible, to divorce yourself from them entirely—and that's okay. It doesn't bother me when men engage in masculine behavior with the explicit purpose of being more masculine, provided that their behavior isn't too destructive—which, unfortunately, it often is.

For example, I don't really have a problem with Manly Beards. My own pro-beard bias is totally at work here, but I think that there are more pressing gender role issues than some men feeling that their smooth cheeks are inadequate.
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Apr 14, 2014 7:33 PM

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My take on this is that while it's reasonable to "reject" gender roles on an intellectual level, it's not reasonable, or even possible, to divorce yourself from them entirely—and that's okay. It doesn't bother me when men engage in masculine behavior with the explicit purpose of being more masculine, provided that their behavior isn't too destructive—which, unfortunately, it often is.

For example, I don't really have a problem with Manly Beards. My own pro-beard bias is totally at work here, but I think that there are more pressing gender role issues than some men feeling that their smooth cheeks are inadequate.
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crying actually helps rid the body of a hormone related to stress, which is one of the reasons you feel 'better' after doing so. as such, i think crying is an important bodily function and shouldn't be not done to conform to gender stereotypes or anything of the sort.
 
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There's a difference between a known and undeniable fact that can be confirmed via google, countless of school books and satellite pics and a statement made by an internet user & based on data which itself depends on a even larger number of factors.
Of course you're gonna be biased in your interpretation of said data and disregard the influence on other social factors so that it fits your point.

I already know the percentage of women in the army (at least in the french and US armies) no data available for the rate of drop outs so what to do with mclovin' example?
We are all biased of course, in one direction or the other. I said there are social factors, but that you shouldn't try to attribute everything to said social factors. You're free to do so, to tell me it's the patriarchy's fault that women are worse than men at practically everything, I just won't accept it.

The army is just another good example of men outperforming women.

I think this is going off topic, however, and I would hate for this thread to get locked, so I'll be the first to drop this.
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Lime_ said:
And you still need a source, Bossling, they've recently relaxed women not being in infantry roles in the Marines -- you're telling people to go look up outdated regulations not allowing women into specific military roles and using that as proof? . . . lol

I could say the opposite of everything you just said and sound just as accurate, the earth being round is definitely not a good analogy here


Just because they are allowed in doesn't mean they make good soldiers. The US military has lowerd its physical standards across the board, and most special forces and combat troops in protest over it have left to become PMC's. (well that is the veterns at any rate plus there has been a generally quite purge of older officers and enlisted men)
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BryanBossling said:
Sapewloth said:
There's a difference between a known and undeniable fact that can be confirmed via google, countless of school books and satellite pics and a statement made by an internet user & based on data which itself depends on a even larger number of factors.
Of course you're gonna be biased in your interpretation of said data and disregard the influence on other social factors so that it fits your point.

I already know the percentage of women in the army (at least in the french and US armies) no data available for the rate of drop outs so what to do with mclovin' example?
We are all biased of course, in one direction or the other. I said there are social factors, but that you shouldn't try to attribute everything to said social factors. You're free to do so, to tell me it's the patriarchy's fault that women are worse than men at practically everything, I just won't accept it.

The army is just another good example of men outperforming women.

I think this is going off topic, however, and I would hate for this thread to get locked, so I'll be the first to drop this.

Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not discussing women vs men physical performance here, so none of that shit please. The only thing I've been telling you so far is that your interpretation of the data you presented me is biased for reasons I've already given, hence why I can't take your word for it.
You're not the one to reject my point, cause I didn't make any; you just didn't prove yours.
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Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not discussing women vs men physical performance here, so none of that shit please. The only thing I've been telling you so far is that your interpretation of the data you presented me is biased for reasons I've already given, hence why I can't take your word for it.
I said they're physically and mentally weaker, and you asked me for a source. You never said you only wanted to discuss the mental part.

In my opinion, the latter is just as self-evident as the former.
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Apr 14, 2014 8:18 PM

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I RESPECT A MAN WHO CAN CRY

thats right, caps. a man who can cry shows more humanity imo. the ability to transcend gender roles and just feel what they fucking feel

honestly? i wouldn't want to be with a man who cried at the drop of a hat. but if its called for - something truly sad - i rather see them deal with it in whatever way is possible
 
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Sapewloth said:
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Sapewloth said:
There's a difference between a known and undeniable fact that can be confirmed via google, countless of school books and satellite pics and a statement made by an internet user & based on data which itself depends on a even larger number of factors.
Of course you're gonna be biased in your interpretation of said data and disregard the influence on other social factors so that it fits your point.

I already know the percentage of women in the army (at least in the french and US armies) no data available for the rate of drop outs so what to do with mclovin' example?
We are all biased of course, in one direction or the other. I said there are social factors, but that you shouldn't try to attribute everything to said social factors. You're free to do so, to tell me it's the patriarchy's fault that women are worse than men at practically everything, I just won't accept it.

The army is just another good example of men outperforming women.

I think this is going off topic, however, and I would hate for this thread to get locked, so I'll be the first to drop this.

Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not discussing women vs men physical performance here, so none of that shit please. The only thing I've been telling you so far is that your interpretation of the data you presented me is biased for reasons I've already given, hence why I can't take your word for it.
You're not the one to reject my point, cause I didn't make any; you just didn't prove yours.


Well, there do happen to be significant neurological differences observed between the brains of men and women.

This is very basically speaking, but women generally have significantly more active insulae than men. The insula is a part of the brain that basically allows the individual to recognize and integrate emotions.

The significance of this plays an important role in an individual's response to (emotional) distress. Generally speaking, a woman will encounter this the distress, and the insula will be very active throughout the whole scenario, and even after the scenario. On the other hand, generally speaking, there will be an initial/shorter increase in activity of the insula of a man, after which other parts of the brain take over to solve/overcome the distress.

There are also functional differences between the male and female amygdalae . The amygdala is the region of the brain responsible for various rudimentary survival mechanisms. One of the most important functions is the encoding of memories of acute situations (this includes ones in which there is fear). In females, the most active hemisphere of the amygdala is the left one, while in males, it is the right one – this, combined with the fact that the region of the brain involved with emotional response to (acute) emotional memory is in the left hemisphere, means that emotional memories are recalled with significantly greater accuracy and intensity in women than in men.

There are tons of other differences but basically, all this means is that women are generally more overwhelmed by their emotions than men are. If we describe “mental strength” as the ability to to stay calm ("ignore" emotion) in the face of any stressor, then I’d say that men are generally mentally tougher.
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Why, thank you Champ'. That's already a lot more convincing.
I'm no neurologist but if we go by that definition of 'mental strength' it certainly makes sense.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
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For anybody interested, since the topic is emotional and physiological differences between the sexes, you might want to listen to this woman talk about the concept of Neoteny.

As defined by Dictionary.com:

ne·ot·e·ny [nee-ot-n-ee]
noun Biology

1. Also called pedogenesis. the production of offspring by an organism in its larval or juvenile form; the elimination of the adult phase of the life cycle.

2. a slowing of the rate of development with the consequent retention in adulthood of a feature or features that appeared in an earlier phase in the life cycle of ancestral individuals: Neoteny in the ostrich has resulted in adult birds sporting the down feathers of nestlings.

Here is the wikipedia link if you don't feel like watching the video. But the video specifically goes into detail applying the evolutionary concept to our societal gender roles. I definitely say it's worth the watch and most certainly related to the topic.
 
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Crying means you were being strong for too long.

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Why, thank you Champ'. That's already a lot more convincing.
I'm no neurologist but if we go by that definition of 'mental strength' it certainly makes sense.


yea im no neurologist either, but i do spend the prime of my life sitting at a desk and reading about this stuff...

to be honest, i didnt even read the whole topic/discussion lol. i might be using a different definition than you guys were lol
 
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i think it is weakness for all people
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i guess daria would say that ^^
 
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Crying is a sign of tears.
 
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Lime_ said:
And you still need a source, Bossling, they've recently relaxed women not being in infantry roles in the Marines -- you're telling people to go look up outdated regulations not allowing women into specific military roles and using that as proof? . . . lol
Actually, I didn't mention anything about regulations. I just asked people to look up women in the army in general.

http://www.livescience.com/433-ouch-women-feel-pain.html

http://www.livescience.com/10707-study-women-sensitive-stress.html

Lime_ said:
I could say the opposite of everything you just said and sound just as accurate, the earth being round is definitely not a good analogy here
It is the perfect analogy to make.

That study was done on rats, not human beings -_-
 
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Both. If you cry too much, people will use this to their advantage but if you cry too little, you have less sympathy. You need to cry out the right amount of tears.
 
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Both. If you cry too much, people will use this to their advantage but if you cry too little, you have less sympathy. You need to cry out the right amount of tears.
Yeah like cry in a cylinder and measure your tears.
 
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Emotions have nothing to do with strength or weakness, because they are not something you have conscious control over, and anyone who claims otherwise is a moron.

Granted, you can suppress physical reactions to emotions, and in some cases it's for the best (you really shouldn't kill someone, even if they make you so mad that you want to) but in other cases, it's really unhealthy (if you're embarrassed to smile because you think you look like an orangutan, showing way to much of your upper gums, it's because "normal" smiles are fake... just look at their eyes).

So then the question becomes whether or not it's healthy to suppress crying... and there are far too many different emotions that can cause a person to cry for a simple answer... shit, crying can even be caused by physical stimuli (dicing onions, stubbing your toe, etc) instead of emotions... in which case, it's also not something you can consciously control.

A few major points, though:

If you cry every time you don't get your way, because people usually feel sorry for you and give you what you want, then you should be ashamed of yourself.

If you don't cry when someone you love dies, you either didn't really love them, or you seriously need to swallow your pride.

If you cry in response to something that should make you feel happy, then you need to find a new group of people to associate with.
 
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Weakness probably, at least for me. I'm a coward and I cry at heavy happy and sad moments while watching anime, while most people don't.
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depends on the situation.
 
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It really depends. Crying can indicate humility, remorse and empathy, which are all good traits to have, but someone who cries a lot could also just be very weak.
 
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Crying is for the weak!! yeah Im edgy as fuck!!
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It all depends on the situation I guess, but, perhaps our eyes need to be washed by our tears once in a while, so that we can see life with a clearer view again.
 
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BryanBossling said:
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If not fear, then what?

Why should they not in general?
Because it's unmanly.

If a man cries from a sprained ankle, then that is a sign of weakness. Men like to avoid looking weak.


Manliness is overrated~ Shed some tears with me brah T^T
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Apr 15, 2014 4:24 AM

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sargos7 said:

If you cry in response to something that should make you feel happy, then you need to find a new group of people to associate with.

Really? You know tears aren't limited to situations in which you're supposed to feel sad, right? I mean, you could cry when something you worked your ass off for finally comes true, or something like that.
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GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
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Sapewloth said:
sargos7 said:

If you cry in response to something that should make you feel happy, then you need to find a new group of people to associate with.

Really? You know tears aren't limited to situations in which you're supposed to feel sad, right? I mean, you could cry when something you worked your ass off for finally comes true, or something like that.
I cry when I yawn too hard.
 
Apr 15, 2014 4:31 AM

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cabacc2 said:
Sapewloth said:
sargos7 said:

If you cry in response to something that should make you feel happy, then you need to find a new group of people to associate with.

Really? You know tears aren't limited to situations in which you're supposed to feel sad, right? I mean, you could cry when something you worked your ass off for finally comes true, or something like that.
I cry when I yawn too hard.
You weakling.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Apr 15, 2014 6:56 AM

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I don't cry if i'm in pain, i just shake it off and move on if i pay attention to the pain i'm giving it attention, which will make it more painful. Also the people saying woman are mentally weak is because, woman get love / special treatment while men are raised to just suck it up they don't get special treatment, there raised at a very young age to be independent and to believe no one is looking out for them there on there own.

Pretty much preparing them for the day when shit goes down and they have to sacrifice themselves to save woman and children while they die. Being raised to be disposable trash a very primitive concept which was necessary back in the day for survival it still has it's benefits though, it makes you more resilient / stronger /independent and shit doesn't affect you as much.
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Sapewloth said:
sargos7 said:

If you cry in response to something that should make you feel happy, then you need to find a new group of people to associate with.

Really? You know tears aren't limited to situations in which you're supposed to feel sad, right? I mean, you could cry when something you worked your ass off for finally comes true, or something like that.


That was the point. You shouldn't have to work hard to be happy, and if you do, it's likely because you hang out with pricks. Not always the case, but usually.
 
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