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May 1, 2014 4:03 PM

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Men shouldn't cry unless in certain situations.
Why?
It displays lack of masculinity and emotional immaturity.
How?

And why is that a bad thing?
Men are meant to be strong and reliable.
Why?
Still waiting for a response.
That's how it's always been, if we're not strong and reliable then who will? Bit of modernization or questioning of gender roles won't change our nature and biology.
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May 1, 2014 4:04 PM

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GuusWayne said:
I don't care what you think of my opinion with your close minded views but you're lying or you wouldn't bother to respond.
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That's what it ultimately comes down to and my points were all objective, none of them are my opinion or rather they are because they're all true. It comes down to basic sociology. There were no facts in your posts so I don't know what you're talking about.
You're a clown.
 
May 1, 2014 4:07 PM

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You're a clown.
No you simply have low reading comprehension, it's not my fault you're stupid.
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May 1, 2014 4:09 PM
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GuusWayne said:
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You're a clown.
No you simply have low reading comprehension, it's not my fault you're stupid.
I haven't laughed this much in a long time, gj guuswayne
 
May 1, 2014 4:11 PM

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JD2411 said:
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You're a clown.
No you simply have low reading comprehension, it's not my fault you're stupid.
I haven't laughed this much in a long time, gj guuswayne

Kineta made me laugh a lot more today though.

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Hitler was good, objectively.
 
May 1, 2014 4:13 PM

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How did you get that much from a single phrase he said?

Also, there's no objectiveness there, but just to drop that because it's not necessarily a moot point but it kind of nullifies discussion.

Why would you go to such heights to deny facts?
That's what it ultimately comes down to and my points were all objective, none of them are my opinion or rather they are because they're all true. It comes down to basic sociology. There were no facts in your posts so I don't know what you're talking about.

Indeed, you're wrong.
No and unfortunately you lost this argument for that poor attempt of an argument without reason.
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May 1, 2014 4:14 PM

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GuusWayne said:
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How did you get that much from a single phrase he said?

Also, there's no objectiveness there, but just to drop that because it's not necessarily a moot point but it kind of nullifies discussion.

Why would you go to such heights to deny facts?
That's what it ultimately comes down to and my points were all objective, none of them are my opinion or rather they are because they're all true. It comes down to basic sociology. There were no facts in your posts so I don't know what you're talking about.

Indeed, you're wrong.
No and unfortunately you lost this argument for that poor attempt of an argument without reason.

I accept my defeat, oh almighty Guus.

But don't forget, if you ever find yourself rustled, that's my curse telling you that these attempts are utterly retarded and should be stopped before getting your hands chainsawed.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
 
May 1, 2014 4:14 PM

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GuusWayne said:
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Men shouldn't cry unless in certain situations.
Why?
It displays lack of masculinity and emotional immaturity.
How?

And why is that a bad thing?
Men are meant to be strong and reliable.
Why?
Still waiting for a response.
That's how it's always been, if we're not strong and reliable then who will? Bit of modernization or questioning of gender roles won't change our nature and biology.

Don't generalize men. Gender roles are versatile. Nobody has the same nature.

What I'm trying to say is that men aren't supposed to be strong and reliable per se. Atleast not where I live.
 
May 1, 2014 4:17 PM

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You're a clown.
No you simply have low reading comprehension, it's not my fault you're stupid.


I'm liking the casual discussion part of these forums :D
 
May 1, 2014 4:19 PM

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Well we live in a feministic society where the concept of masculinity gets twisted but Idgaf. We may be different as individuals but we all have the same nature as men which is more or less influenced by the world around us.
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May 1, 2014 4:25 PM

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Neither. People cry because they are sad. It doesn't take strength to cry, at least not for me. I don't think it shows weakness either. There's nothing weak about crying. Its just a sign that you are sad. Or maybe its a sign that you are overjoyed by something or really moved by it.
 
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GuusWayne said:
I don't care what you think of my opinion with your close minded views but you're lying or you wouldn't bother to respond.
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That's what it ultimately comes down to and my points were all objective, none of them are my opinion or rather they are because they're all true. It comes down to basic sociology. There were no facts in your posts so I don't know what you're talking about.
My reading comprehension is fine, thank you.

So let's see those "objective" "points", shall we?

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Crying often makes you a little bitch
Hmm. Yes. Good point.

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and it's not to your benefit because it will drive people away from you.
That is factually incorrect and is the exact opposite of the evolutionarily survival focused function and purpose of crying.

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Nobody likes an emotional wreck or a crybaby.
Objective indeed.

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I never claimed I knew for sure all is well but it doesn't have to mean that person is holding in sadness and being concerned about a happy person for not crying shows the incredible negative worldview of the one who believes he/she is putting on a mask as if it's not possible to be well without faking it.
For somebody commenting on reading comprehension, that sure was a fucking nightmare to read. Punctuation please.

This terrible run on sentence is a whole bunch of nothing, and said with a pretty strong sense of absolutely no self awareness.

"It is impossible to know for sure what somebody is feeling on the inside if they mask it, so assuming that they are in emotional distress is negative....but I'm going to continue to shame and insult people who don't mask their emotions to the general public, and overall encourage and perpetuate the already strictly enforced societal gender role that men are not allowed to show any signs of emotion...but no, totally. If somebody isn't showing emotional distress on the outside, there's totally no way that they are actually feeling distress".

Brilliant job. You are a clown.
 
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Red_Keys said:
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I don't care what you think of my opinion with your close minded views but you're lying or you wouldn't bother to respond.
GuusWayne said:
That's what it ultimately comes down to and my points were all objective, none of them are my opinion or rather they are because they're all true. It comes down to basic sociology. There were no facts in your posts so I don't know what you're talking about.
My reading comprehension is fine, thank you.

So let's see those "objective" "points", shall we?

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Crying often makes you a little bitch
Hmm. Yes. Good point.

GuusWayne said:
and it's not to your benefit because it will drive people away from you.
That is factually incorrect and is the exact opposite of the evolutionarily survival focused function and purpose of crying.

GuusWayne said:
Nobody likes an emotional wreck or a crybaby.
Objective indeed.

GuusWayne said:
I never claimed I knew for sure all is well but it doesn't have to mean that person is holding in sadness and being concerned about a happy person for not crying shows the incredible negative worldview of the one who believes he/she is putting on a mask as if it's not possible to be well without faking it.
For somebody commenting on reading comprehension, that sure was a fucking nightmare to read. Punctuation please.

This terrible run on sentence is a whole bunch of nothing, and said with a pretty strong sense of absolutely no self awareness.

"It is impossible to know for sure what somebody is feeling on the inside if they mask it, so assuming that they are in emotional distress is negative....but I'm going to continue to shame and insult people who don't mask their emotions to the general public, and overall encourage and perpetuate the already strictly enforced societal gender role that men are not allowed to show any signs of emotion...but no, totally. If somebody isn't showing emotional distress on the outside, there's totally no way that they are actually feeling distress".

Brilliant job. You are a clown.

Well put. My money is on you.

I think we are past the generation where men should be/act tough and I think it will diminish throughout the years.
 
May 2, 2014 3:16 AM

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*Takes a sip of cocoa*

This feels like one of those things... you know where you see a bunch of homeless people beat up some some other homeless guy who found money on the floor.
You cant help but just watch the strange seen playing out.
dis feels liek wan of dos tings... u noe wer u c sum poverty stricken children beating up dey want d moni dat d kid fond n d ground n order to feed dmsellves or family but den u think of d other kid; wat f dat kid has same thought as dem to feed d little sibling coughing from thirst and withering from hunger.

ahhh..... nevermind weird story. twas gna put sum analogy but den pepal might go ruin it for some sick thing

senyways it alllll depends on ur society dat u live in yah?
if ur prideful with the thought of men should be manly and fearless then okay crying is weak
if u live in the chic world were guise luk liek gurls n der liek emotional n smth den okay whichever floats

u guise r weird with arguments srs.
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Nanakomori said:
*Takes a sip of cocoa*

This feels like one of those things... you know where you see a bunch of homeless people beat up some some other homeless guy who found money on the floor.
You cant help but just watch the strange seen playing out.
dis feels liek wan of dos tings... u noe wer u c sum poverty stricken children beating up dey want d moni dat d kid fond n d ground n order to feed dmsellves or family but den u think of d other kid; wat f dat kid has same thought as dem to feed d little sibling coughing from thirst and withering from hunger.

ahhh..... nevermind weird story. twas gna put sum analogy but den pepal might go ruin it for some sick thing

senyways it alllll depends on ur society dat u live in yah?
if ur prideful with the thought of men should be manly and fearless then okay crying is weak
if u live in the chic world were guise luk liek gurls n der liek emotional n smth den okay whichever floats

u guise r weird with arguments srs.
Son, who the fuck taught you grammar? You're weird af.
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May 2, 2014 3:28 AM

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Son, who the fuck taught you grammar? You're weird af.

That's called joking.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
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It's called lame.
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May 2, 2014 4:20 AM

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grammar?


wat? Is.... Is this that one thing where I see the sign: Do not feed troll but still do it anyways?

mai bad :(

guise. its my fault for replying, ruining d fun, n dat me grammar, not perfect but simple, is completely unreadabel

ueehee. uwaaaaaa *hick* *sniff* *walks away while crying*

n dats how crying became a strength in aiding escape from unwanted situations
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May 3, 2014 9:02 AM

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And why is that a bad thing?
Men are meant to be strong and reliable.
Why?
If you're in a relationship, the man is usually the emotional rock in that relationship, and women tend to despise weak men.

If you want your son to be successful, career-wise, sexually, emotionally, then you should teach him that it's not okay to be wallowing in self-pity all the time, while we're used to the idea of women doing just that (as women are more emotional creatures). If my daughter is crying her heart out, I will comfort her, while if my son did the same, I'd ask him to tough it out. Maybe it's because we're instinctively more protective/sympathetic towards women, and we shape our children to be much like ourselves.
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May 3, 2014 9:22 AM

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If you're in a relationship, the man is usually the emotional rock in that relationship, and women tend to despise weak men.


Many weak men do not cry, many weak men work out and appear tough only to save their own skin when danger comes because they are real pussies. Whilst the so called weak emotional man would stand up for someone even if it means getting hurt.

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If my daughter is crying her heart out, I will comfort her, while if my son did the same, I'd ask him to tough it out.


Bryan thats the worst thing ive heard you say, thats horrible.
 
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If you're in a relationship, the man is usually the emotional rock in that relationship, and women tend to despise weak men.
Many weak men do not cry, many weak men work out and appear tough only to save their own skin when danger comes because they are real pussies. Whilst the so called weak emotional man would stand up for someone even if it means getting hurt.
Yep, I definitely agree. I hate many of the modern notions of what it means to be a man, including machismo bullshit.

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If my daughter is crying her heart out, I will comfort her, while if my son did the same, I'd ask him to tough it out.
Bryan thats the worst thing ive heard you say, thats horrible.
There are a number of different circumstances to consider, young boys and girls cry about the same amount, and then it might be reasonable to treat them the same. This would be my instinctual reaction however. I'd be tougher on boys because I expect them to be tougher in return, and because I expect them to be able to handle it. If he's looking for comfort, he'll have to go to his mother.
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Can you prove to us Jenny that my son will become a successful individual if I impede his own emotions and force him into an unnecessary role? I don't remember sexual relationships and relationships in general necessarily needing somebody to be an "emotional rock".

I'd cry if I'd need to, the only reason I don't cry is because I don't feel the need to do so, yet I cried when I was a kid and nobody ever told me "Man the fuck up.", instead people comforted me. It's also because I've reached a level where I know that certain things are useless, thus, certain emotions don't trigger so there's no trigger on other things.




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Can you prove to us Jenny that my son will become a successful individual if I impede his own emotions and force him into an unnecessary role? I don't remember sexual relationships and relationships in general necessarily needing somebody to be an "emotional rock".

I'd cry if I'd need to, the only reason I don't cry is because I don't feel the need to do so, yet I cried when I was a kid and nobody ever told me "Man the fuck up.", instead people comforted me. It's also because I've reached a level where I know that certain things are useless, thus, certain emotions don't trigger so there's no trigger on other things.
And what role would that be? Where would I be forcing him? Being in control of one's emotions is a sign of maturity, and I don't believe in coddling teenage boys.

Of course I can't prove that, since there are too many variables to consider (stupid question). You'll have to specify what you mean by ''impede his own emotions'' anyway, since we're always telling children how to act even (or especially) if this is in conflict with their emotions. ''Don't break down and cry in the face of adversity'' seems like good advice to me.

I didn't say that the man being an emotional rock was a necessity, that's simply how it is in most cases.
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Crying is completely natural. Some do it more than others, but everyone does it at some point. It has nothing to do with weakness or strength. When people are sad, most of them cry. For the ones who don't, that sadness manifests in some other way. Some people can cry and then let whatever was bothering them go, but for some it's not that easy and that's okay.
 
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Are you saying I'm a little bitch for crying when my dog iedd? Are you FUCKING kdding me? I'll FUCK you up IRL okay?
I know you didn't ask me, but I'd say you most likely are.
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if it's tears of blood it's strength,anything else is weakness in my book.
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Trolls will be trolls. Everyone cries. It's what it means to be human. And saying that men shouldn't be allowed to cry is stupid and old fashioned. Everyone should be allowed the right to express their emotions. If you seriously believe this then you haven't experienced a sadness or loss worthy of tears (which might be a good thing?). I used to try to bottle up but I've lost family members and friends every year for the past 5 years(violence in Mexico is horrible...) and at some point I just couldn't hold them back anymore.
 
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Trolls will be trolls. Everyone cries. It's what it means to be human. And saying that men shouldn't be allowed to cry is stupid and old fashioned. Everyone should be allowed the right to express their emotions. If you seriously believe this then you haven't experienced a sadness or loss worthy of tears (which might be a good thing?). I used to try to bottle up but I've lost family members and friends every year for the past 5 years(violence in Mexico is horrible...) and at some point I just couldn't hold them back anymore.


This.
 
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It's not a strength or weakness, it transcends both..
 
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crying reveals how weakness the one is, and everyone on this planet are weak from inside, what i mean is: if you're gonna cry then cry somewhere where there's no any people out there to see or hear you crying, that will save your dignity and your pride :)
 
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And what role would that be? Where would I be forcing him? Being in control of one's emotions is a sign of maturity, and I don't believe in coddling teenage boys.

Of course I can't prove that, since there are too many variables to consider (stupid question). You'll have to specify what you mean by ''impede his own emotions'' anyway, since we're always telling children how to act even (or especially) if this is in conflict with their emotions. ''Don't break down and cry in the face of adversity'' seems like good advice to me.

I didn't say that the man being an emotional rock was a necessity, that's simply how it is in most cases.

The role you keep on giving the human male, the male that always has to be disciplined and to be a "true manly man" that picks his partners based on your retarded opinions without any basis whatsoever. Maturity is simply responding to your environment in an appropriate manner, there's no rule that crying is deemed immature, tearing up also makes it easier to cope with whatever made you cry, crying also helps cleaning your eyes, etc.

No one cries randomly Jenny, you're talking like one would cry all the time because you didn't educate him otherwise, that's complete bullshit. Do know that tearing up because something entered your eye is also deemed crying, that's pretty involuntary, it doesn't matter how "manly" you are it seems, your body doesn't give a fuck about that.

I never said you might be wrong Jenny, I'm just saying you are.




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The role you keep on giving the human male, the male that always has to be disciplined and to be a "true manly man" that picks his partners based on your retarded opinions without any basis whatsoever. Maturity is simply responding to your environment in an appropriate manner, there's no rule that crying is deemed immature, tearing up also makes it easier to cope with whatever made you cry, crying also helps cleaning your eyes, etc.
And what's wrong with discipline? Sure, I think men should serve a role in society, in the family etc.

I don't know about a rule, but as I said before, most people despise men who are crybabies. We are generally more accepting towards women crying.

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No one cries randomly Jenny, you're talking like one would cry all the time because you didn't educate him otherwise, that's complete bullshit. Do know that tearing up because something entered your eye is also deemed crying, that's pretty involuntary, it doesn't matter how "manly" you are it seems, your body doesn't give a fuck about that.

I never said you might be wrong Jenny, I'm just saying you are.
Of course there's a difference between that, and outright sobbing. I don't know why you even need to bring it up, seeing as it doesn't have much to do with my argument at all.

I won't go outright and say that raising a boy like a girl will turn him into a girl, but it definitely matters what kind of attitude you have towards it all.
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No, roles are limiting individuals most of the times.

"Most people", who again? Are you most people?

Eye tearing is crying, if somebody sobs that means he has to, you don't cry that hard if what happened is not threatening in any way, or he has problems like depression or whatever. And it has to do with your argument considering that you say "crying is for crybabies" when anyone can cry for most trivial reasons without their own consent too.

You don't have to say anything Jenny, it's okay, it's okay. Crying is a really bad thing because femininity and masculinity, ho-ho, totally.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
 
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If not fear, then what?

Why should they not in general?
Because it's unmanly.

If a man cries from a sprained ankle, then that is a sign of weakness. Men like to avoid looking weak.


Pls go. I (and many other men) have gone through a lot of shit, and keep on moving forward. That is the sign of my strength. If I need to cry I'll do it, because I am sad and that is what people do when they are sad. I respect a man a million times more if he gets up form his falls and cries doing it than some coward who runs from his problems and happens to also be the type to not cry because of what people think.
 
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This is obviously subjective. Though my opinion is that it's a sign of emotional weakness as we cry when we are exposed to pain. Not to say the effect of those experiences makes you stronger or weaker, but it is due to a lack of control over our emotions that we cry, and controlling your emotions and impulses is the psychological necessity for maturity. If anything, experiencing weakness allows us the chance to get stronger.
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And what's wrong with discipline? Sure, I think men should serve a role in society, in the family etc.

I don't know about a rule, but as I said before, most people despise men who are crybabies. We are generally more accepting towards women crying.


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And what's wrong with discipline? Sure, I think men should serve a role in society, in the family etc.

I don't know about a rule, but as I said before, most people despise men who are crybabies. We are generally more accepting towards women crying.


1950's America called, they need you back.


I see Jenny still loves to throw around the words most or few etc, when it suits him.

He always brings in statistics then fails entirely to prove his claims. You can have your opinion, but don't get too deluded you enforce it on others.
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Crying in public is a sign of weakness (unless its physical pain)
 
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Crying in public is a sign of weakness (unless its physical pain)


Crying is not weakness, even in public. Been able to hide feelings has no impact on strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b3_-pPzDVk
 
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Kibura_Iburasa said:
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Crying in public is a sign of weakness (unless its physical pain)


Crying is not weakness, even in public. Been able to hide feelings has no impact on strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b3_-pPzDVk
Of course it is. Children that start crying because they want something but they can't get it are weak. People that cry because they broke up with their girlfriend/boyfriend in public are weak, they should not distribute their bad feelings to the others
 
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Kibura_Iburasa said:
lupadim said:
Crying in public is a sign of weakness (unless its physical pain)


Crying is not weakness, even in public. Been able to hide feelings has no impact on strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b3_-pPzDVk


This is false.

We live in a logically modeled civilization. Being able to control, not get rid of your emotions, is how people become strong in contemporary society.

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Kibura_Iburasa said:
lupadim said:
Crying in public is a sign of weakness (unless its physical pain)


Crying is not weakness, even in public. Been able to hide feelings has no impact on strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b3_-pPzDVk
Of course it is. Children that start crying because they want something but they can't get it are weak. People that cry because they broke up with their girlfriend/boyfriend in public are weak, they should not distribute their bad feelings to the others


I don't think it's a case of other people being victimized because of others' negative feelings themselves, but rather, it is inherently a sign of weakness and that evokes a response of pity.
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This is false.

We live in a logically modeled civilization. Being able to control, not get rid of your emotions, is how people become strong in contemporary society.


This is also false.

We live in a society modeled on flat out denial and suppression of feeling, under the idea that they are a sign of weakness in a society dominated with the idea of dog eat dog. This leads to lack of empathy and understanding of the complex nature of human emotions and how bottling them away is harmful to the development of a stable individual.

Our society doesn't teach control of emotions, it teaches repression of emotions as perverted or weaknesses.
 
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Kibura_Iburasa said:
Autocrat said:

This is false.

We live in a logically modeled civilization. Being able to control, not get rid of your emotions, is how people become strong in contemporary society.


This is also false.

We live in a society modeled on flat out denial and suppression of feeling, under the idea that they are a sign of weakness in a society dominated with the idea of dog eat dog. This leads to lack of empathy and understanding of the complex nature of human emotions and how bottling them away is harmful to the development of a stable individual.


This is also false.

We live in a society modeled with concepts that were developed within thousands of years. Controlling your feelings is essential if you want to be strong. A kid that cries when he/she can't have a toy is not any different from someone that cries in public after breaking up with his/her girlfriend/boyfriend. Both are weak. In order to measure a man, you just need to measure the size of the things that worry him.
 
May 4, 2014 2:24 PM

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lupadim said:
In order to measure a man, you just need to measure the size of the things that worry him.


Thats your opinion.
 
May 4, 2014 2:27 PM

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Kibura_Iburasa said:
lupadim said:
In order to measure a man, you just need to measure the size of the things that worry him.

Thats your opinion.
Not at all.

Every rule has an exception, so of course you can't apply that rule to every men, but still. Kids worry with the stupidest of the things (toys, candies, etc). An adult crying for similar reasons would be as weak as a kid.
 
May 4, 2014 2:29 PM

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lupadim said:
Kibura_Iburasa said:
lupadim said:
In order to measure a man, you just need to measure the size of the things that worry him.

Thats your opinion.
Not at all.


I'm still seeing one persons opinions based on their own feelings and whatever facts from social scientists they can find to support their own opinions.

There is no universal law to judge a mans strength unless its psychical.
 
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Kibura_Iburasa said:
Autocrat said:

This is false.

We live in a logically modeled civilization. Being able to control, not get rid of your emotions, is how people become strong in contemporary society.


This is also false.

We live in a society modeled on flat out denial and suppression of feeling, under the idea that they are a sign of weakness in a society dominated with the idea of dog eat dog. This leads to lack of empathy and understanding of the complex nature of human emotions and how bottling them away is harmful to the development of a stable individual.


You said it yourself, we live in a metaphysical dictatorship par hierarchy of survival of the fittest.

As such, there is no immediately calculable way of observing potential, strong after-perceptions that would be suggestive of strength. Freak incident of nature...You almost seem to be basing your belief that crying is not weak because it makes one stronger according to the perception that an emotionally and logically stable individual is strong. As opposed to, how people perceive the person thereafter.

You're confusing opinion with fact.
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May 4, 2014 2:31 PM

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Kibura_Iburasa said:
lupadim said:
Kibura_Iburasa said:
lupadim said:
In order to measure a man, you just need to measure the size of the things that worry him.

Thats your opinion.
Not at all.


I'm still seeing one persons opinions based on their own feelings and whatever facts from social scientists they can find to support their own opinions.

There is no universal law to judge a mans strength unless its psychical.
The topic is not about an universal law.

The title is clear: Is crying a sign of weakness?

And the answer is simple: Depending on the reason you are crying and the place you are crying, YES.
 
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It's neither, it's just crying. And there isn't really anything wrong with it if there's a reason to.
"If you died, would anyone care? Would they really care? Maybe, they'd cry for a day. But, let's be honest no one would give a shit. They wouldn't. The few people that would feel obligated to go to your funeral would probably be annoyed and leave as early as possible. That's who you are. That's what you are. You are nothing to anyone. To everyone."
-Mr. Robot

"I can take another name, and build a new life.. But on the inside I'll always have that instinct, no matter how much I hate it. I'm yakuza through and through. Guile only gets you so far in this game. Remember that. You won't get another chance."
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May 4, 2014 2:33 PM

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lupadim said:

The title is clear: Is crying a sign of weakness?

And the answer is simple: Depending on the reason you are crying and the place you are crying, YES.


By Lupadims personal opinion.
 
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