Noragami: Stray God
| What the fuck!? Someone hates Hiyori!? Such blasphemy. Oh well, sarcasm aside. TBH OP from the main point, everything that you've said, I think we're not watching the same show. |
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| I don't think so.. I found Hiyori to be funny and entertaining.. Her character design was nice and i don't think a female character need to be badass or super cute to be likable.. And one more thing, while she's useless in the battle, character wise she's far from useless.. Without her, Yato and Yukine would be dead back in eps 9.. |
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Blind_Guardian said: Personally I'd have enjoyed the series significantly more if Hiyori had been erased from the narrative altogether, or at the very least, been a radically different person. Reasons: 1) Useless in combat against actual enemies 2) Hair-trigger violent against her allies 3) Hits on Yukine (leading to his corruption), falls in love with Yato for no reason 4) Stupid subplot that goes nowhere with the half-Phantom thing 5) Boring, generic character design 6) Never funny, entertaining or badass in any way, shape or form Okay. I respect your opinion, but I can't say I agree. 1) Hiyori Iki is a normal high school girl. She is not required to be equipped with combat skills. Last I heard, no normal ordinary high school student has to be either. Her entire role as a character is to be an average, ordinary girl who was thrown into a supernatural setting, which she is executing perfectly. 2) Her acts of "violence" are used as comedic relief. By no means is she abusive and intentionally harming anyone. It is a form of the 'boke and tsukkomi' relationship in stand up comedy which is used as comedic relief quite frequently in animes. 3) She was not 'hitting' on him as you say. She was polite and kind. Yukine did not become corrupted because Hiyori was kind to him, he became corrupted because he had impure thoughts. And it wasn't just his impure thoughts, but immoral actions that landed him there. As for Yato, the sub-plot of romance is definitely present, however she did not instantly fall for him at the drop of a hat. I mean, if anything Yato is the one who falls for her first and she gradually falls in love with him. It went with the flow of their relationship, progressing from strangers to acquaintances to friends and so on and so forth. Remember, neither of them particularly liked each other in the beginning - feelings take time to develop. 4) This subplot has yet to be explained. This is a very slow-paced manga which is still ongoing. How can you expect a now 60 chapter manga to be explained in only 13 episodes? 5) Again, she is a NORMAL high school girl. She's usually seen in her school uniform which makes sense. And when she's not, she's typically wearing casual clothes that you would see any ordinary teenage girl wearing. She's no different than a normal human being - I don't see this point as a valid reason. If we're talking about hair colour and style, than I don't see a problem either. It is quite intentional. Have you noticed that anyone in the series who distinct features or clothes that stick out are supernatural entities, primarily gods? i.e. Kofuku, Yato, Tenjin, Bishamon. Even then, some other gods do still look like normal people. Hiyori is a human being and I assume that's why they made her appearance follow a more realistic agenda; however as this is still an anime, they did give her oddly coloured eyes which I suppose is enough for them. 6) Not everyone is required to be eccentric. There are people who are not naturally funny. There are also people who don't have that 'badass edge' that you claim she lacks. Why does she need to be 'badass'? There are people who are fairly neutral, with their own quirks and hobbies. Not every character has to have these two traits to be considered the slightest bit likable. Hiyori Iki is actually one of the most significant characters for the series. The big share of the plot of the story revolves around her relationship with Yato. Yato, the god with no believers, finally gets his first - Hiyori. She managed to help him get a Regalia, she helped him when his Regalia was corrupted -alongside many other things she's done for him. She was a friend to him. She helped and cared for Yukine and himself. Technically the progression of Yato's journey to succeed to be a well known god and Yato's own character development would have never happened if Hiyori was not there. She is well balanced character and a primary catalyst for this show to even exist. This is just my opinion. Again, to each their own. |
matsuokasouDec 4, 2015 6:55 AM
| I mean people can like or dislike a character, it's perfectly normal, but your reasons make zero sense. |
| I don't like her either |
Go back to being a naked monkey, sweetie! |
| Hiyori is boring. |
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| i don't hate her but i prefer Nora over her |
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| Why hate Hiyori? She saved Yato multiple times and she's really cute |
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| No she adds well to the dynamic of yato and yukine... Reasons for people "hating" her are substandard. In reality, she is just a regular girl who cares deeply for her friends & I enjoy how she amplifies the comic relief in Noragami!! |
| I liked her in the beginning but ended up despising her with her actions during serious situations. Specifically when Yukinne was being bad, Kofuku told her if he kept doing what he was doing Yato would die but instead she ignored it. Then during his punishment she kept crying "yameteeeeeeeeeee" "this is too harsh" "he doesn't deserve this," despite knowing fully well that 1. he stole a skateboard (and she covered for him) 2. he stole CHARITY money 3. he broke a lot of the windows to her school and yet she still thought he was a good boy. Give me a break. Honestly i was so happy when Rabo destroyed her memories but of course my happiness was shattered when she came back all because she smelled Yato?? |
| Even without having any combat skills in battle shounen anime, Hiyori is still a likeable character. Unlike other female leads who made stupid decisions again and again. |
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| It's been a while since I've seen Noragami but I don't really remember hating her. I get a lot of peoples' reasons for not liking her though. They're pretty valid. |
ankuranime54 said: Blarey said: Not me. Think about it, without Hiyori, what would Noragami have been really? Yukine and Yato arguing and bullshitting around all day? Without Hiyori, Yukine never would have changed, so in my eyes she was an important character in the show. Plus, she's cute and has a tail. Now on the other hand if you asked the question: Anyone else hate Yukine? I'm sure you would get some similar opinions. I would suggest you think a little bit more. Even if Hiyori wasn't there, even if Yato himself would have told those exact same words to Yukino at that time, the plot would have turned out to be exact same, except that Yato this time would have turned out to look a little bit more cool. As far as the fights go, I don't think Yato ever took them seriously, bcz, he knew about Yukino's past to begin with and had a fatherly nature towards him right from the start, even without any of the advise of Hiyori I would suggest you don’t quote posts from over 4 years ago. I had just started watching anime, I barely even knew what I was talking about |
| Her phantom thing will be the key plot of the third season if we do get one. |
| She's such an annoying character, she's a huge reason why yukine acts out in the first place and butts in making it harder for yato. Her trying to help makes everything worse and and she doesn't even realize it. |
| She's okay, could be better, could be worse. Why hate on Hiyori if Yukine is in this show as well? |
| Girl still a girl they will rarely used her mind but more on feeling |
| I like Hiyori she's an important character that is there to help Yato and Yukine to change and improve themselves, she gives moral support and love to them and thats really important, she helps the relationship of Yato and Yukine even though I think she could have helped more, also she fights a little even though ofc she's not going to fight extreme dangerous foes since she doesn't have any kind of power like Yato. I think its nice of her to always want to help even though she doesn't know how since she doesn't have any power and many times she wants to help but knows it will put herself in danger and that will make everything worse so its actually smart of her to keep herself away. I like that she helps Yukine to believe in Yato and belive in himself she actually helps Yukine to stay in the right path....Yukine is suppose to be Yato guide but its actually Hiyori that guides both of them |
| This is a pointless thread. OP hates the character and doesn't want to change their POV, so why even bother... This is a typical "personal taste" "discussion". I hate a certain character, certain food, certain drink and so on because of personal bias... Well congratulations, people have different opinions and it's highly unlikely that they'll change their minds because of comments. At least, thanks to the poll, you should have realized that you're a minority when it comes to hating her. Other than that, this thread is Pointless since one can create a new thread with same title on literally every single character!!! |
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