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Sep 6, 2009 1:15 AM
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Laevantein said:
And did Araragi just broke his promise to Senjougahara again? he kept the abnormality incident by himself again, just like Kanbaru Monkey incident.


I wouldn't say he broke his promise (yet) because they barely found out about her problem. Plus, it doesn't really have anything to do with her for the most part unlike Kanbaru. Also, hasn't Senjougahara stated that she dislikes children? So choosing her over Kanbaru isn't really logical. I think he'll eventually tell her about it. Though you and I could be totally wrong and off track. IDK because I've never read the light novels.
 
Sep 6, 2009 1:29 AM

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Laevantein said:
And did Araragi just broke his promise to Senjougahara again? he kept the abnormality incident by himself again, just like Kanbaru Monkey incident.


I wouldn't say he broke his promise (yet) because they barely found out about her problem. Plus, it doesn't really have anything to do with her for the most part unlike Kanbaru. Also, hasn't Senjougahara stated that she dislikes children? So choosing her over Kanbaru isn't really logical. I think he'll eventually tell her about it. Though you and I could be totally wrong and off track. IDK because I've never read the light novels.
Same here, never found the translations for the novel, but i was surprised on how Senjougahara's getting a little off from the series, but without Senjougahara this series still good, Kanbaru can make up for it
 
Sep 6, 2009 2:52 AM

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The huge yellow banana and ballz were forshadowing p0rno mags and the sudden loli fanservice. Good stuff!
 
Sep 6, 2009 3:53 AM

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so this arc is about snakes?

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Sep 6, 2009 4:11 AM
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Defiance said:
This just proves that you don't need Senjougahara to have a really good episode. Imo, Kanbaru's relationship with Araragi is almost as entertaining as Senjougahara's.


THIS

Seriously. People should just stop moaning about senjou not having enough screen time, just because your favorite character isn't shown that much doesn't mean the episode itself is bad :X
 
Sep 6, 2009 4:14 AM

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Nobody missed Mayoi? I want Mayoi back! :(
 
Sep 6, 2009 5:19 AM

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I felt dirty.

Pretty good intro episode though. I wonder if Kanbaru and Hanekawa feeling strange is in any way related to Nadeko.
 
Sep 6, 2009 6:08 AM

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NEED MORE SENJOUGAHARA~
Anyway, I was thinking why Kanbaru was so affected at the shrine while Araragi was alright. Then I remembered that big snakes are one of the natural enemies of monkeys!
Whoa nice info there, now things are getting interesting, but when Kanbaru and Nadehiko together with Araragi in his room, nothing really happened
 
Sep 6, 2009 6:23 AM

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Actually there is a Senjougahara in the episode...just not there in the flesh, but in the flashback, but Kanbaru and Nadeko sure makes up for it a lot. Hooray for fanservice.

Well, I'm not exactly devastated by the lack of Senjougahara since Nadeko is finally here...plus fanservice on her first debut episode.
 
Sep 6, 2009 6:27 AM
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kairuu said:
it really is too bad that ive never heard of that "reaction guy" meme.



I also have never seen nor heard of the "reaction guy" meme. Does anyone have a link?

To some degree, this show is a "realistic harem," although less so than the effective harem in Code Geass. When a guy stands out as exceptional, he typically gets a lot of female attention. And if the guy already has a steady girl, all the other girls say, "Hey, he must be good or the other girl wouldn't want him."

Most harem shows are silly IMHO because a total loser gets girls for no reason.
 
Sep 6, 2009 7:13 AM
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I guess I shoud have read about this anime before watching it because I had no clue it was going to be a harem in disguise with unnecessary violence and nudity.

This episode disappointed me again and I realise now that I've been liking this show less and less since the end of the first arc. Mayoi sticking around, after the second arc, was probably the beginning of the fall for the quality of the show.

There were good aspects in this show, though. For instance Araragi being criticized for his selflessness (which is not a quality as it can actually put people you try to save in danger).

As always, Bakemonogatari manages to convey some depth of meaning and it probably will again in the next episodes. I suppose if I had not been expecting so much after the 2nd episode of the first arc, I would not be so disappointed.
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Sep 6, 2009 8:57 AM

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I loved this episode! ^_^
I've been waiting for little Nadeko almost sense the show stared and then her very first episode Fan Service! ^_^
Poor little Nadeko though, she doesn't want to kill the snakes but somethings seems to be forcing her too. T_T
Can't wait to see the next episode to see how this plays out.

One more thing, anyone who loves Nadeko should go and join her club, she deserves more fans/members then she currently has.
Plus I can promise plenty more fan service. ^_^

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Ok Let me just get one thing straight for all you 'There's not been enough Senjōgahara!':
SHE IS NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!
Araragi is the main character, not Hanekawa, not Hachikuji, not Kanbaru, not Senjōgahara, or anyone else Ararragi IS!
Sure she might be dating Araragi but that still doesn't make her the main character.

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Sep 6, 2009 9:20 AM

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Although this is the beginning of Nadeko's arc, it's not her who's in the spotlight, but Kanbaru. And now I know that she looks better with Koyomi than Senjougahara does, they just get along great and look nice together.

Like someone said before, the harem builds up and maybe we'll even get a few more romance-oriented scenes, which could be good, but who knows.

About the arc and Nadeko herself - seems interesting to me, after crabs, snails and monkey's, we get snakes. I hope there won't be no spiders, ugh.

The rating is lower this time because I found the ep a little boring in the beginning and we don't get enough Senjougahara!

8/10
 
Sep 6, 2009 9:31 AM

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Well senjougahara indeed a great added point for this Anime, but please without Senjougahara in this arc the Anime itself is still great, it's a Ghost Story not Senjougahara Story..

But of course i missed her, let's bare it for a while, and enjoy Nadehiko's fan service..oops Nadehiko Snake
 
Sep 6, 2009 10:02 AM

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Wow...Kanbaru and Araragi really have good chemistry together. Almost as good as Araragi with Senjougahara.

Regardless, interesting episode. I like the new arc with the snake skin. Although Sengoku seems a little too shy to begin with, I do that once they go about solving the problem, her dialogue and conversation pieces become just as interesting.

And yeah, need more Senjougahara as well. But wasn't too bad.
 
Sep 6, 2009 10:24 AM

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Delightful with more Kanbaru, her arc was too short to begin with :v

Now here's for hoping they manage to turn Nadeko's so-far seeming oniichan-syndrome into something freshly interesting. Which I trust them to do.

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I also have never seen nor heard of the "reaction guy" meme. Does anyone have a link?

Here ya go. It pops up now and then. The occasion in this episode was indeed a oh-wait-press-pause-did-I-see-that-correct moment.
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Sep 6, 2009 10:25 AM

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Naked loli is pure win.
 
Sep 6, 2009 10:46 AM

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Nice episode.



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Sep 6, 2009 11:29 AM
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<3 Kanbaru/Arararararagi. Monkey is so freaking hot. Best sporty girl I've seen in a long time.

Still loyal to Stapler-ojou, of course!
 
Sep 6, 2009 12:03 PM

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I swear, these episodes are getting worse and worse. I'm dropping this if the next ep doesn't pick things up. :/
 
Sep 6, 2009 12:17 PM

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hakufirefox said:
I swear, these episodes are getting worse and worse. I'm dropping this if the next ep doesn't pick things up. :/

I can't even begin to imagine why you'd find this bad.

I surmise you mean that the pace is slow, but is it, really? This is a dialogue-driven show, and dialogue happens all the time, so the pace is actually quite passable. We find out more and more about the characters through it; which considering the equalization of character and plot here is quite akin to plot progression. Well, not that the pace is high, but high pace is not the same as good, nor vice versa.

So allow me to slightly condescendingly raise one of my eyebrows, adjust my monocle, sip my tea and ask what you meant?
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Delightful with more Kanbaru, her arc was too short to begin with :v

Now here's for hoping they manage to turn Nadeko's so-far seeming oniichan-syndrome into something freshly interesting. Which I trust them to do.

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I also have never seen nor heard of the "reaction guy" meme. Does anyone have a link?

Here ya go. It pops up now and then. The occasion in this episode was indeed a oh-wait-press-pause-did-I-see-that-correct moment.


Ah, NOW I remember. That's quite cool that they insert subtle stuff like that.

I'm still glad I gave this show another go when I watched the first ep three times over when deciding which subs to go for. It's far better than I originally thought.

I'm stating to like Kanbaru more now that she shows a more humorous side to her.

And Nadeko is an interesting character. I guess we'll have to see what the deal is with her snake skin.
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Sep 6, 2009 12:27 PM

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Loved this episode, and this arc looks promising. I like Kanbaru more now after this ep (used to hate her D:), she is funny. Needed more Senjougahara though. :p
 
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hakufirefox said:
I swear, these episodes are getting worse and worse. I'm dropping this if the next ep doesn't pick things up. :/
I hope you are not regretting it
 
Sep 6, 2009 12:51 PM

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People don't drop this series! It has potential. an ok episode. 4/5.
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Sep 6, 2009 2:12 PM
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Wow, the animation and art were perfectly horrible this time, I believe the episode was entirely subcontracted in China ;) Direction was rushed too and far weaker than usual, but the episode was quite good despite that, thanks to the apparition of a nice new character and the obvious Bakemonogatari creativity/uniqueness. Interesting but I hope the next one will be better, at least from a technical point of view.

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Sep 6, 2009 4:09 PM

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Jacut said:
Wow, the animation and art were perfectly horrible this time, I believe the episode was entirely subcontracted in China ;) Direction was rushed too and far weaker than usual

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I get the feeling this episode will get some fixing up on the DVD release as a result. I also suppose that if Bakemonogatari were most other shows I wouldn't have as much of a bone to pick with this episode as I do, but when the rest of this series has been of such high quality a completely mediocre episode like this stands out that much more. The dialogue between Araragi and Hanekawa was downright boring as opposed to the engaging dialogue between Araragi and Senjougahara/Kanbaru and Shinbo's directing was wavier than Araragi's ahoge. Really disappointing.
 
Sep 6, 2009 4:55 PM

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CapuChuuu said:
This Anime is really unique.


Haha agreed.
 
Sep 6, 2009 5:07 PM

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good epd, Kanbaru was hilarious


can't go wrong with naked loli i guess :o
 
Sep 6, 2009 6:49 PM

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Needs....more....Tsundere....chan....
 
Sep 6, 2009 7:15 PM

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controlmajortom said:
Needs....more....Tsundere....chan....

*sigh*
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Ok Let me just get one thing straight for all you 'There's not been enough Senjōgahara!':
SHE IS NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!
Araragi is the main character, not Hanekawa, not Hachikuji, not Kanbaru, not Senjōgahara, or anyone else Ararragi IS!
Sure she might be dating Araragi but that still doesn't make her the main character.


I really want to know why so many people have the idea in their heads that the show is about Senjōgahara.....
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Needs....more....Tsundere....chan....

*sigh*
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Ok Let me just get one thing straight for all you 'There's not been enough Senjōgahara!':
SHE IS NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!
Araragi is the main character, not Hanekawa, not Hachikuji, not Kanbaru, not Senjōgahara, or anyone else Ararragi IS!
Sure she might be dating Araragi but that still doesn't make her the main character.


I really want to know why so many people have the idea in their heads that the show is about Senjōgahara.....
-_-


Uh, they don't. Some people just think she's more entertaining than the rest of the cast. Sheesh. Isn't that why we have favorite characters in all anime?

Just because other people want to see more of her doesn't mean they don't understand that she's not the main focus of the show. I don't see how wanting to see more of a supporting character is wrong. Sorry, I just don't.
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I have to admit, I do get annoyed as well when people go berserk because their favorite character isn't on the screen at all times. It's practically Déjà vu of the Hayate no Gotoku boards with Hinagiku.
 
Sep 6, 2009 9:03 PM

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Ok episode. I think the environments looked quite good, and I'm really happy that we got to see Bakemonogatari's industrial, art deco design in a more organic environment. I was reminded a little bit of Samurai Jack looking at the bamboo thickets, which has its good and bad points.

Overall though, I thought the beginning was pretty disconnected from the last, and didn't do well to address the issue of Kanbaru being so clingy until she had her spiel on why Senjougahara was noticeably missing. This is a case where having lots of dialogue was a bad thing, so the direction was definitely lacking. Top that off with what looked like some reused frames (chibi Araragi shaking his head) and some very static, lingering scenes led me to believe that they blew a bit of their load last week. But it's fine overall to me, since this was an introductory episode.

Speaking of the episode itself, I'm not too fond of it, because I'm really not interested in this character. I suppose after Hitagi, Mayoi, and Kanbaru, it's bound to get a little generic and vapid, but hopefully the story will go in a much more interesting direction than previous to make up for it.
 
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cute loli and somehow went to naked but NO SENJOUGAHARA!!!!!
AHHH BOOOM!


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Sep 6, 2009 9:39 PM

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Bedroom scene was hilarious. Kanbaru talking dirty with Araragi is still as funny as always. :)

"Koyomi Onii-chan", haha so cute.
 
Sep 6, 2009 10:40 PM

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Where's Hachikuji?


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Nobody missed Mayoi? I want Mayoi back! :(
T_T

Kanbaru kinda shined in this episode.
 
Sep 6, 2009 11:18 PM
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Hot almost kiss, Sengoku was cute, and Kanbaru and the rest of the ep was pretty damn funny lol.
 
Sep 6, 2009 11:38 PM

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Just for the hell of it, I'm posting the image wich describes the episode..
I had to double-take at this just make sure I wasn't seeing things. XD
 
Sep 6, 2009 11:39 PM

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Not having internet yesterday was horrible, I had to wait with watching this episode until now ;_; (Yep, 2 animes this season that I'm addicted to, this one and Spice & Wolf II, those two are the only ones I actually care about watching them as quickly as possible after release xD)

Anyway, This Episode Needs Moar Senjougahara! ٩๏_๏)۶
Still, this was a bit fun, and kind of creepy at the same time, what with the dismembered snakes and all.
And as usual, Can't wait for the next episode ٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶
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Hm. It was an average episode though. but i kinda like Nadeko. In wikipedia episode 10 will be her opening song. XD, I hope the animation is as good as Ambivalent World and the song as good as Staple Stable.

On the offtopic, Nadeko is voiced by a person who is going to voice CLAMP's Kobato. Hmm..

 
Sep 7, 2009 12:07 AM

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Enjoyable episode but I'm not sure about the topless loli with bloomers at the end.

Also, Hanekawa is now mai waifu.
 
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but I'm not sure about the topless loli with bloomers at the end.

No, that felt pretty weird O.o
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Sep 7, 2009 12:14 AM

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No, that felt pretty weird O.o

You feelin' a little bit dirty thar, oosran?
 
Sep 7, 2009 12:39 AM

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Good episode, would have liked more Senjougahara... but as others said, the show isn't all about her.

Also, I really can't stand looking at monkey girl and her ape eyebrows.
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Needs....more....Tsundere....chan....

*sigh*
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Ok Let me just get one thing straight for all you 'There's not been enough Senjōgahara!':
SHE IS NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!
Araragi is the main character, not Hanekawa, not Hachikuji, not Kanbaru, not Senjōgahara, or anyone else Ararragi IS!
Sure she might be dating Araragi but that still doesn't make her the main character.


I really want to know why so many people have the idea in their heads that the show is about Senjōgahara.....
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It's not like that really, this show just deserves more Senjōgahara : D
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No, that felt pretty weird O.o

You feelin' a little bit dirty thar, oosran?

Not really : o that was just something that I don't think I've seen before xD.
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Oosran said:
It's not like that really, this show just deserves more Senjōgahara : D
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Lesbian & Virgin discussing, a naked little girls underwear... Lovely.

Who liked the porn mags part? "I know your fetishes" XD
 
Sep 7, 2009 1:40 AM
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hm so far this arc doesn't seem as interesting as the first 3....

i want to see some more Araragi x Senjougahara
 
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