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Mar 17, 2014 12:35 PM
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Aoba is being stupid this eps, he could just capture Hina and solve things later.
 
Mar 17, 2014 12:47 PM

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Did anyone notice this?
ep.1
http://imgur.com/3hpRYXa
ep.11
http://imgur.com/H5usNKK



Or Hina could be from around the same area as Aoba is.. It was mentioned that the area was attacked 8 years ago, though I don't know how common it is for elementary schools and high schools to have similar uniforms.

The city that was mention by Hina's dad is Zagreb, which might be a fictionalized city of Zagreb in Eastern Europe and not Japan.

I think that theory about the real Hina being sent to the future ten years earlier than Aoba can be true.
 
Mar 17, 2014 1:04 PM

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1. More hina show time is needed. Loved the intensity/drama

2. Enemies finally get a win. Wonder when the time travel will be explained.

6/10
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Mar 17, 2014 1:40 PM

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I liked how they FINALLY understood some things about each other (at the end)
When the coupling system finally shared memories...

And I like the idea Hina is beginning to have 2nd thoughts... but... I don't see how this can end in 13 episodes.

 
Mar 17, 2014 2:06 PM
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ugh still barely any answers about this time travelling thing since ep 1
 
Mar 17, 2014 4:12 PM

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Well Dio should believe that Aoba is from the past now.
 
Mar 17, 2014 4:38 PM

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Dat reveal for Hina. Bizon grudge for Aoba has begun.

Dio will finally believe Aoba story.
 
Mar 17, 2014 5:52 PM
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Bizon is creepy.
 
Mar 17, 2014 6:10 PM

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Haha Bizon's creepy mode is in overdrive.

I can't believe how Zogilia's owning their asses every single turn. The Cygnus always gets shot down, their bases always get attacked and now their new mechs have been stolen.
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Mar 17, 2014 6:55 PM

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Woah. It's like Hina's whole existence is a paradox.
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Mar 17, 2014 7:10 PM

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Not sure if Aoba could suck any more. Kira was a better MC than this tool.

Well, if this ends up being a split cour, hopefully the second season can turn the show around from this train wreck.

What is wrong with him? He's pretty good protagonist, definitely best of recent mecha.

And learn what's trainwreck because you clearly don't know what are you talking about.
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ugh still barely any answers about this time travelling thing since ep 1

It's obvious that it's related to coupling system.
 
Mar 17, 2014 7:41 PM

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Too bad, Aoba and Dio's mechas got stolen.

Bizon was getting more jealous at Aoba x Hina moments.
 
Mar 17, 2014 8:14 PM

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Aoba is Hina's father as well as the scientist whose face was hidden in the photograph in an earlier episode.
EXPECT IT
 
Mar 17, 2014 10:32 PM

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I'll give the show credit, it actually has added some interesting parts to this time travel business. I didn't really expect Hina to be so tied into it. I assumed she was just a regular solider the first time around who got involved with Aoba, went to the past to save him and thus the loop began. But more going on here. This might be the answer as to where the Hina who sent Aoba to the future went. She was sent to the future, just not as far. Maybe Hina was originally from that place where her father found her. But with the time travel (ep1) Hina went to that point and because she already existed merged with the Hina that was there thus causing the memory loss. Apparently time travel was also kind enough to shrink down the school uniform for her :).

Just a strong episode overall. A solid mission by Zogilia, a pretty cool way to exit the stage for Hina's father, some serious drama for Hina, and perhaps Dio finally gets that Aoba was from the past.

While a lot of things have been set up I honestly think this has to go split-cour. Maybe if they really pushed the plot they could resume the time loop, but even that would be a stretch.
 
Mar 18, 2014 3:19 AM

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Luxon & Bradyon has been stolen, it's a good news.. there will be a new valiancer... XD , maybe ? :v
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Mar 18, 2014 3:51 AM
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Geez im in love with this anime even more now! cant wait for next ep
Bizon super jealous
Aoba in serious mode is super badass!!
The old Coupling system > New coupling system

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Aoba is being stupid this eps, he could just capture Hina and solve things later.
Aoba isnt that kind of person and he wouldnt force hina.

Good Catch!!!
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Mar 18, 2014 4:19 AM
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When Aoba gets serious he puts everything he has to reach his goal. Hes also the type of person who can easily depressed when he doesnt. People call him stupid because his relationship with Hina and because of the time travel problems.
He isnt a military person nor he will ever he always go out of his to protect someone even if it gets him into trouble. He went against gengos orders to protect someone who he clearly cares for. Hes fighting to protect everyone. He clearly told hina he doesnt want her to force her to do anything. Dio now believes Aobas story and he will defend Aobas choice he made and to prove be isnt crazy and he was telling the truth.
I think future Hina the one who came to the past wanted Aoba to reach out her thats the point knowing she would lose her memories and merge with the existing hina in that timeline. Aoba isnt stupid this was future hina wanted from the start.
 
Mar 18, 2014 4:44 AM

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Pretty good episode...but to think its that easy to infiltrate enemy bases...guess they planned it that well...or security was just too lax?

Hina was adopted, well, why am i not surprised? i think the real question is where does she come from? is she even from the same timeline as Dio? or as Aoba?

Bizon, the hate and jealous guy, comes to the rescue and takes Hina away...

and the part were there emphater waveforms rose to abnormal condition gave me goosebumps... xD


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Mar 18, 2014 5:28 AM

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Not gonna lie, that was very exciting. I have to compliment how long the episode felt since they jam packed it with alot of content and kept up a pretty good pace to match that. I liked the characterization in this ep and this was the first time where the fights felt like they were entertaining since all the other ones just felt like pretty curb stomps.

Though a couple stupid things that dont detract too much but, why the hell did dio just stand around in the middle of the hallway in the gunfight against bizon, just use cover theres a wall right next to him. Also i didnt like how hina and aoba had their conversation right in the open during an enemy raid, aoba should had grabbed her and took her to secluded area like one of the room so they wouldnt had been caught by bizon or dio like they did

im hoping the 2nd half will continue showing more episodes like this

Shangetsu said:
Aoba is Hina's father as well as the scientist whose face was hidden in the photograph in an earlier episode.
EXPECT IT
im actually half expecting this, the thoughts crossed my mind alot that aoba is her gandfather or something

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
Mar 18, 2014 6:02 AM
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Ok I thought this episode showed that there is actual depth to the time travel. This episode was a major improvement for the series.
 
Mar 18, 2014 6:43 AM
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I did not notice the tatter school uniform...but now you mention it.. O_o

And where the hell did that cat hairpin come from?? Future Hina obviously didn't have it, but and future Hina got it from Aoba, but Aoba got it from Past Hina...the hairpin might be from the start of the timetravel loop.
 
Mar 18, 2014 7:05 AM

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Predictable episode. In the first episode we have seen Bizon wearing a helmet that is similar to the coupling system so from that episode alone I knew they will eventually capture the coupling machines.

This episode further proved that Zogilla is like the Nazi Germany and the Alliance is run by a bunch of idiots. The former is even worst because they just kills every alliance people and even go as far and swears to it.

Stop praising Hina's character because he just took three (3) soldiers and made three (3) family fatherless with his so-called "cool" death. That's not cool to me, unless you're a minor then I understand if that was cool for you.

I understand that the Alliance is losing the war so it's pretty much obvious that they have no choice but to go defensive. But that kind of gets annoying specially now that we have 11 episodes.

The episode is so, so but if you have low standard in which you take everything as it is without even questioning then you'll rate it to "i love it 5/5."
 
Mar 18, 2014 7:54 AM

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What? People actually liked this episode? I thought this was the worst one yet.
I knew her father was gonna die in some cheesy way and then comes the "I am not your father" trope >_>.

Hina's confused and actually considering betraying her friends and father to join Aoba, Aoba sprouting some more stupid crap and the rest of the fools listening to his stupid crap. This could compete with Valverave's first season's retardedness.

I am half expecting Aoba to be Hina's father.

Dropped the score from 7 to 6/10
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Mar 18, 2014 9:11 AM
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Hina's confused and actually considering betraying her friends and father to join Aoba,

She gets to know that she was adopted over 10 years ago, and she does? Considers switching sides to another country... Who cares about her only (at least that she knows about) family, friends, comrades and duty, right?

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Aoba sprouting some more stupid crap and the rest of the fools listening to his stupid crap.

Alliance only weapon that gives them a chance against Zogiria (spelling?) gets stolen and you don't do anything about because some newbie from god-knows-where says that it was his friend? What's worse, we are getting the same situation every freaking second episode.

This complete lack of any logic in (pretty much all of the) cast behavior is killing this show.
 
Mar 18, 2014 9:19 AM
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The episode is quite good, i think the new coupling will create problems between Aoba and Dio;
said this, i really, really, don't know how they could finish this anime in 2 episodes :/
for this, I hope in a second season that explain much better all the anime situation, because it have a lot of outstanding questions.
 
Mar 18, 2014 9:35 AM
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I think this anime is going to end up trolling us and end with Hina going back to start the time loop again.
 
Mar 18, 2014 10:52 AM

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Bizon had Braydon (red mech) so that related to the first episode! It has to be!

Loving his jealousy face (lol). Nice ep.

But wait, where was the other dude who was in Luxon (o-O); Whatever happened, will we finally see Zogilia Coupling?!

 
Mar 18, 2014 11:05 AM

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Bizon had Braydon (red mech) so that related to the first episode! It has to be!

But wait, where was the other dude who was in Luxon (o-O); Whatever happened, will we finally see Zogilia Coupling?

No it was diffrent mecha, Koyasu build it.
That was hacker.
 
Mar 18, 2014 11:48 AM

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Predictable episode. In the first episode we have seen Bizon wearing a helmet that is similar to the coupling system so from that episode alone I knew they will eventually capture the coupling machines.

This episode further proved that Zogilla is like the Nazi Germany and the Alliance is run by a bunch of idiots. The former is even worst because they just kills every alliance people and even go as far and swears to it.

Stop praising Hina's character because he just took three (3) soldiers and made three (3) family fatherless with his so-called "cool" death. That's not cool to me, unless you're a minor then I understand if that was cool for you.

I understand that the Alliance is losing the war so it's pretty much obvious that they have no choice but to go defensive. But that kind of gets annoying specially now that we have 11 episodes.

The episode is so, so but if you have low standard in which you take everything as it is without even questioning then you'll rate it to "i love it 5/5."

Honestly I think you're a bit off the mark with this episode. I mean how on Earth did Zogilia end up as Nazis? They are no more patriotic than any other country in the middle of a major conflict. And they are attacking a base, casualties are kind of a given. Of course they are going to get rid of anyone that gets in the way. They are stealing key weaponry not going to a grocery store.

And yeah we should get on Hina's father for his death while ignoring the people who wanted to shoot someone they figured was already dead. That's cool after all, they were so going to go and get him medical care right?

If you don't like an episode, that's not a big deal. But don't pretend that people who do have inferior standards to your own.
 
Mar 18, 2014 1:08 PM

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Well someone called it in the last thread about Hina's father not being her real dad. I for one stayed hopeful and thought that was her real father, I was mistaken.

I thought this episode was pretty damn great! I really enjoyed it from start to finish. It definitely seemed longer than what it was, and there was so much going on. The coupling part with Dio and Aoba was pretty nice. I loved it when they began to witness each others memories and the OST that went along with that made that part even more wonderful. Dio will finally believe Aoba and understand him more :) and vice versa. This episode truly made some plot developments and really pushed the anime forward for me. There are still many questions left unanswered but what fun would come from them giving us those answers right away? relax and enjoy, in due time they will reveal themselves.

 
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Predictable episode. In the first episode we have seen Bizon wearing a helmet that is similar to the coupling system so from that episode alone I knew they will eventually capture the coupling machines.

This episode further proved that Zogilla is like the Nazi Germany and the Alliance is run by a bunch of idiots. The former is even worst because they just kills every alliance people and even go as far and swears to it.

Stop praising Hina's character because he just took three (3) soldiers and made three (3) family fatherless with his so-called "cool" death. That's not cool to me, unless you're a minor then I understand if that was cool for you.

I understand that the Alliance is losing the war so it's pretty much obvious that they have no choice but to go defensive. But that kind of gets annoying specially now that we have 11 episodes.

The episode is so, so but if you have low standard in which you take everything as it is without even questioning then you'll rate it to "i love it 5/5."

Honestly I think you're a bit off the mark with this episode. I mean how on Earth did Zogilia end up as Nazis? They are no more patriotic than any other country in the middle of a major conflict. And they are attacking a base, casualties are kind of a given. Of course they are going to get rid of anyone that gets in the way. They are stealing key weaponry not going to a grocery store.

And yeah we should get on Hina's father for his death while ignoring the people who wanted to shoot someone they figured was already dead. That's cool after all, they were so going to go and get him medical care right?

If you don't like an episode, that's not a big deal. But don't pretend that people who do have inferior standards to your own.
yah those are pretty dumb complaints since they essentially boiled down to "why are they killing people in a war" yah hit the nail on the head pretty well.

And this was one of the episodes that made the zogilia NOT seem like nazi's, in some of the early episodes we only saw them being strict oppressive military that treats their soldiers like shit while the alliance was all happy and care free, while these recent episodes have shown them in their free time enjoying themselves and in the last episode that they have a sense of humor of some kind and emotional connection to eachother. For the first time in the series they made the alliance seem like assholes for a bit

its the first ep in this series where it feels like a war and not a good vs evil match

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
Mar 18, 2014 1:48 PM

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Was Dio able to see that Aoba's been telling the truth about where he came from?

I've just about had it with Hina and Bizon. They should've just shot those Valiancer's down.

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Mar 18, 2014 3:50 PM
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I really liked the episode, except I would have loved for them to get the Valiancers back...:(

I think BC is a really good Anime (better than Valvrave) and for me this ep was just another proof for that.
They show more of the developing relationship between Dio and Aoba and don't just throw random supernatural things in it...;D

When I saw the pic of Hina as a kid (when she was found) I didn't know it for sure but I thought: Oh this could be a school uniform...Is there anyone else who thinks, that she may be the same Hina (Aoba thinks) and just became a kid instead of dying???

I really love the Anime, also because I love friendship, but I really wonder how they are going to solve the "Am I going bakc into my time or staying in the future" part of the story...also I think Sunrise (that was it, right?) is going for a season 2...since I seriously doubt they'll be able to put it in 13 eps...
 
Mar 18, 2014 5:40 PM
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This show is to damn unpredictable!
 
Mar 18, 2014 6:08 PM

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Aoba had a problem shooting and killing someone, but hasn't he killed countless people in their mechas already? Also what this idiot Aoba doesn't understand is that just because your friends with the enemy that doesn't make her the friend/Ally of everyone else.
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Mar 18, 2014 6:27 PM

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Well at least now Dio knows that Aoba really knows Hina and that he's really from the past
 
Mar 18, 2014 7:45 PM
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To all the people who constantly complaining about about Aobas personality Hes not a friggin soldier hes a high school student pulled into time travel mess forced into piloting a mech that can cause a mental breakdown.
The person who rescued him was put back in time 60 years instead of the 70 years he was pulled into the timeline where she first met him. Episode 1 she told him to trust her and he does and she also told him to believe in her. She almost knew what she was going to do. She also wanted Aoba to reach out to her and have his
trust in her break it only to help him out later. His personality is a direct result of losing his own father who was a firefighter. Hes not fighting a war because he hates zogillia. Hes clearly fighting for people he cares about even if it means disobeying orders to protect someone who he does actually care about. It doesnt matter what side she is on he will continue to protect her.
 
Mar 18, 2014 9:53 PM

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No it was diffrent mecha, Koyasu build it.
That was hacker.


That son of a bitch!
 
Mar 18, 2014 10:28 PM
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Read on chia-anime that the Past Aoba may had die in the future so Hina went to the past and told the past Aoba that Dio is waiting for him...
So sad...i thought of that to in the beginning ep but i don't want him to die! and about Aoba being Hina's father, I WON'T ALLOW IT! HINA X AOBA!
 
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I haven't seen that many mecha anime by Sunrise, but wow, this is already the third where a daughter gets told by dying father (who is some sort of important person) that he's not really her father. Even though I didn't predict it, it was definitely not surprising...

Anyways, I love how Dio gives up fighting against Aoba who says that he will not shoot Hina down. Not only that, but Dio's definitely warmed up to Aoba since he was shouting at Bizon to let go of Aoba. And lastly, he will finally believe that Aoba is not lying about coming from the past, and about Hina. Must've been one hell of a confusing moment (not to mention, that seemed painful). The valiancers were cooler though than the new mechs.
 
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Kind of a boring episode in my eyes. The second part was a lot more interesting though, and now I'm beginning to wonder how time travel works in this series' universe. Also, there is no way this is a 1 cour show, it's impossible to reach a conclusion in the amount of episodes left.
 
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I think this anime is going to end up trolling us and end with Hina going back to start the time loop again.


Or maybe only her memory passed to another Hina on the past.
About her giant mech..... errrr.

lol so confusing
 
Mar 19, 2014 12:36 AM

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Didn't like it too much at the start because the part with Hina and her father seemed rather anticlimatic. The aftermath of Hina's emotional breakdown was also handled poorly imo.
It got better towards the end though now that Dio knows his situation. His story will be taken more seriously.

I also think Hina traveled back further than Aoba and for some reason as a child. That will link things in nicely.

Annnd...Ryazan revealing his secret before dying (while refusing treatment), Hina breaking down, Aoba telling Hina to join him, sharing of memories during intense fight...Wow, this show really will use all the cliches of mecha anime :P
 
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CodeST said:
Did anyone notice this?
ep.1
http://imgur.com/3hpRYXa
ep.11
http://imgur.com/H5usNKK


Time loop over and over again. No good.
 
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Can anyone please report Aoba for assisting enemy forces during their invade, promptly sentence him to death for high treason and make Dio main character?

Please? Just to make that "Hina. Hina. Hina!" stop.
He looked different from usual mecha protagonists in that he was actually capable and did stuff at first. Now he's just whining about Hina 90% of his script.

Just shoot the bastard and retrieve your mechas with pilots capable of following orders and engaging enemy.

Hell, for all high command might see it, Hina blatantly lied to Aoba to reduce his morale, make him feel sorry for her and not fight anymore. It would be a great strategic choice. Of course, expecting any kind of military logic in anime would be too much. If this was 2nd episode I'd probably drop it right now.
However, it's 11th so no point dropping a show 2 episodes away from ending. If I survived through Kurogane no Linebarels I'll survive through this as well.
 
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Can anyone please report Aoba for assisting enemy forces during their invade, promptly sentence him to death for high treason and make Dio main character?

Please? Just to make that "Hina. Hina. Hina!" stop.
He looked different from usual mecha protagonists in that he was actually capable and did stuff at first. Now he's just whining about Hina 90% of his script.

Just shoot the bastard and retrieve your mechas with pilots capable of following orders and engaging enemy.

Hell, for all high command might see it, Hina blatantly lied to Aoba to reduce his morale, make him feel sorry for her and not fight anymore. It would be a great strategic choice. Of course, expecting any kind of military logic in anime would be too much. If this was 2nd episode I'd probably drop it right now.
However, it's 11th so no point dropping a show 2 episodes away from ending. If I survived through Kurogane no Linebarels I'll survive through this as well.

you dont seem to clearly understand aobas actions in this episode hes not person with a military mindset.

He now knows the truth to what happend she lost her memories and everything she knew was a complete utter lie. She was a confused panicked state. The point of this episode wasnt going against aobas back. When they performed that coupling with firebrand and skynight triggered something and because of that dio and aoba exchanged memories
. Aoba has very high morals and a strong sense of justice like his father his mindset is more of a firefighter. Dio now knows why he lied to him in episode 8 tried to save her in episode 3 stopped him from killing her in episode 5. It was because he was telling truth. The hina from the future seemed to know the events taking place and that is why she told him trust her. She knew this was going to happen. She also wanted Aoba to reach out to her.
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Hina turned into a child? That's just plain STUPID.
 
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No she didnt she was 10 years earlier and her existence merged with her past self with no memories and her only remembered her name yet she was wearing the same uniform as Aobas highschool. It makes sense.
 
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Mordant said:

Alliance only weapon that gives them a chance against Zogiria (spelling?) gets stolen and you don't do anything about because some newbie from god-knows-where says that it was his friend? What's worse, we are getting the same situation every freaking second episode.

This complete lack of any logic in (pretty much all of the) cast behavior is killing this show.


I think their decision still plausible. Because his natural compatibility with coupling machine aoba is as good as a wildcard and irreplaceable. If the stolen machine got shoot down and kill hina in the process, possibly aoba will break down or rebel. That way alliance will loose 2 couplers, because dio cant do coupling without him. In other hand zogilia's chance to get compatible coupler are slim.
For me it just like gambling, both choice have its own merit and demerit.
 
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Hina having a breakdown and actually considering switching sides after all the "ZOGILIA'S ENEMY IS MY ENEMY" shit in the previous episodes was kinda unrealistic
I liked the super coupling with Aoba and Dio, though...reminds me a bit of Gundam 00 Second Season with all the "sharing memories".
 
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