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Oh wow, this kid's fantasy scares me a bit too....

With a power like that I mean. Dat cookie analogy.
Mar 12, 2014 1:26 AM
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Now we got one that can turn imagination into reality. Kenpachi is finally back!
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thats one powerful ability turning imagination into reality but glad that Kenpachi is back
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Turning imagination into reality is definitely a fearful technique!

So, Kensei and Rose are dead along that creepy quincy?


Kenpachi is back. Now, what will be the fate of that imaginary powered quincy? We'll see.

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Fuck...I can't believe Kensei and Rose are dead just like that. Kubo's sadistic side is finally showing through. Seems like since Bleach is in the final arc he'll continue to be kill happy and make his "Shounen" more into a "Seinen". Also Fucking yes! Kenpachi is back!
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Whoa. The return of Kenpachi is soooo surprising ! Sure didn't expect him to come back with this timing.
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I wonder just how powerful Kenpachi has become after awakening his zanpakuto. Will he have a Bankai though I doubt we will see it in the first fight his in but my god that entrance was perfect.
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Kenpachi is back. Really want to see if he has a bankai.
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too sad for kensei and rose....another vizard has gone. can inoue get them back alive? i thought inoue has that kind of power or maybe i'm wrong..

BUT ROCK KENPACHI IS BACK AND I LOVE THIS IMAGINE KIDS! what is the letter than for this kid! haha cool appeareance, just imagine and it all become reality, and kenpachi nothing change, but i think he is such a superhero noww! love it
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Ken-san in the game again! I like cookies.
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Great, now we have a reality warper and those two guys just randomly died. Whatever. At least that other Quincy is dead. Kubo is kind of fickle I guess ("So you thought I'd actually let Yachiru fight one-on-one? Naw"). And Kenpachi is back. Never saw that coming.

If the fight against a guy like this ends in typical Bleach style (without any strategy and figuring out the opponent's ability's weakness, simply overpowering him because of a huge power gap) I'll finally lose all hope for Kubo. Seeing how it's Kenpachi fighting him I fear the worst...
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so, what do you think, are they really dead or is it just 'I imagined them dead so they are'?
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"IMAGINE MY SURPRISE TO FIND THIS LITTLE SHIT CAUSING ALL THIS RUCKUS". What a great entrance. I really hope to see his shikai now.
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is it right if i'm the imaginary kids than i would be able to imagine soul society exploded by itself , or kenpachi's heart stop beating? or imagine that the kid himself has a bankai...by just ...imagine
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so, what do you think, are they really dead or is it just 'I imagined them dead so they are'?

I can totally see this ending in "everything I imagined didn't REALLY happen" and everything going back to normal once he's dead. I sure hope not...
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first decent chapter of bleach in a while. i wonder if that kids power is to manifest imagination into reality using the power of suggestion or just straight up bend reality to what he imagines. i hope its the former or else he's will be way too OP. kenpachi being back was cool too but i think he'll just end up using his strong will to negate this kids power. one draw back of this chapter is that i know for a fact that kubo isn't going to kill those shinigami off and once again just troll a character death just for the sake of suspense.
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Yes! "My boyfriend's back and there's gonna be trouble!!" LOL!! I missed you, my darling Kenpachi Zaraki!!

Now, make haste and lay waste to that annoying, little piece of Quincy shit!!!
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Bleach makes me high... this neverending kaleidoscope of antagonist and protagonist entries interrupted by short fights... Bleach is really something! There is an entrance almost every chapter!
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Yachiru was cute in the first part, and the second part was pretty decent with the new enemy and KENPACHI! It was still boring reading through the part with the old geezer and the chick from Unohana's division.

But whatever, freakin KENPACHI!

Edit: Oh but, couldn't the guy just imagine Kenpachi's dead, and wouldn't Kenpachi be dead? Or will there be BS like Kenpachi is instilling fear in that weak shit's mind so that he can't imagine beast like that dead? Hmm.. Or.. Kenpachi could just go for the immediate kill.
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Death itself is back yohoho
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Wow, change of enemies so fast. Imagination becoming true is scary.
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Shaniyaz said:
Though, this is the power of the imagination turning into reality; if the enemy is defeated; won't the illusion be broken?


Pretty much what I believe will happen.
People will get overexcited because of a few 'deaths' without really thinking about it at all and when the fight end and it turns out they are alive these same people will be the one who call bullshit.

ToG25thBaam said:

Edit: Oh but, couldn't the guy just imagine Kenpachi's dead, and wouldn't Kenpachi be dead? Or will there be BS like Kenpachi is instilling fear in that weak shit's mind so that he can't imagine beast like that dead? Hmm.. Or.. Kenpachi could just go for the immediate kill.


If his power was that much omnipotent he would have the power to end this war in a split second. Actually he could make it so that shinigami never existed and the Quincies ruled instead.
It's very likely that like any power in Bleach, for it to work as intended you must power it with more reiatsu than the enemy can handle.
Ken is the perfect character to handle that power.
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Jouten said:
Fuck...I can't believe Kensei and Rose are dead just like that. Kubo's sadistic side is finally showing through. Seems like since Bleach is in the final arc he'll continue to be kill happy and make his "Shounen" more into a "Seinen". Also Fucking yes! Kenpachi is back!


if you remember every soul that dies powers up the quincy lord ... so basically he powers up the quincy boss for the battle between him and ichigo or somesuch

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too sad for kensei and rose....another vizard has gone. can inoue get them back alive? i thought inoue has that kind of power or maybe i'm wrong..


the vaizards were damn useless and overhyped so far :(

i wish they could have been more but they simply weren't
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God dammit Bleach i was looking forward for a badass fight between Yachiru and that guy and in the end nothing that was so anticlimatic and like with the fight with Rukia Yachiru cannot beat this new guy and has to depend on Kenpachi saving her. Even though i'm happy to see Kenpachi again but seriously Bleach let the female characters have a badass fight they can actually win.
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And Kenpachi is back. Never saw that coming.


i thought that was expected most of all at this point since his vice captain is fighting and would eventually bump into someone to strong for her ...

grandy_UiD said:
If the fight against a guy like this ends in typical Bleach style (without any strategy and figuring out the opponent's ability's weakness, simply overpowering him because of a huge power gap) I'll finally lose all hope for Kubo. Seeing how it's Kenpachi fighting him I fear the worst...


i expect something more like kenpachig having the perfect counter ability, or he himself through his personality and such be the counter ... i believe he might not even reveal his bankai yet, maybe we will see the shikai but that's it :/

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first decent chapter of bleach in a while. i wonder if that kids power is to manifest imagination into reality using the power of suggestion or just straight up bend reality to what he imagines. i hope its the former or else he's will be way too OP. kenpachi being back was cool too but i think he'll just end up using his strong will to negate this kids power. one draw back of this chapter is that i know for a fact that kubo isn't going to kill those shinigami off and once again just troll a character death just for the sake of suspense.


he is controlling an area only ... note when the surprise came in this chapter "since when am inside a forcefield" most likely it has some range restriction

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Oh but, couldn't the guy just imagine Kenpachi's dead, and wouldn't Kenpachi be dead? Or will there be BS like Kenpachi is instilling fear in that weak shit's mind so that he can't imagine beast like that dead? Hmm.. Or.. Kenpachi could just go for the immediate kill.


I think it will be something like kenpachi simply lacking imagination. All he thinks about is fighting and slaying down his opponent. It is really as if he can NOT think of anything else. :)



I wanna see this imaginative guy go vollstanding.
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If his power was that much omnipotent he would have the power to end this war in a split second. Actually he could make it so that shinigami never existed and the Quincies ruled instead.
It's very likely that like any power in Bleach, for it to work as intended you must power it with more reiatsu than the enemy can handle.
Ken is the perfect character to handle that power.

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I think it will be something like kenpachi simply lacking imagination. All he thinks about is fighting and slaying down his opponent. It is really as if he can NOT think of anything else. :)

Oh yeah I actually misunderstood how that power works. The target must be imagining these things, not the user. If Kenpachi imagines himself to be the strongest one, then lol, I feel bad for his opponent for having to go against Kenpachi with that kind of power that backfires.
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Kenshi and Rose are dead. Well that is what you get from blabbing about your abilities and their weaknesses to the enemy. Well I hope they are not really dead, but we will see.

Anyway Yachiru got her moment to shine and beat her opponent, who I thought wasn't good enough for Kenpachi, so I thought she would beat this guy, another enemy would show up, and than Kenpachi would show up to save the day.

I can't wait to see Kenpachi's zanpaktu, his shikai, and his bankai. Though I rather use that on a opponent we already know is strong, not this new guy, but I will take it.
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ToG25thBaam said:
Shangetsu said:

If his power was that much omnipotent he would have the power to end this war in a split second. Actually he could make it so that shinigami never existed and the Quincies ruled instead.
It's very likely that like any power in Bleach, for it to work as intended you must power it with more reiatsu than the enemy can handle.
Ken is the perfect character to handle that power.

Peralisc said:

I think it will be something like kenpachi simply lacking imagination. All he thinks about is fighting and slaying down his opponent. It is really as if he can NOT think of anything else. :)

Oh yeah I actually misunderstood how that power works. The target must be imagining these things, not the user. If Kenpachi imagines himself to be the strongest one, then lol, I feel bad for his opponent for having to go against Kenpachi with that kind of power that backfires.


I think Quincy must imagine it not his/her opponent:
http://mangafox.me/manga/bleach/vTBD/c572/17.html

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Shaniyaz said:
Though, this is the power of the imagination turning into reality; if the enemy is defeated; won't the illusion be broken?


Pretty much what I believe will happen.
People will get overexcited because of a few 'deaths' without really thinking about it at all and when the fight end and it turns out they are alive these same people will be the one who call bullshit.

ToG25thBaam said:

Edit: Oh but, couldn't the guy just imagine Kenpachi's dead, and wouldn't Kenpachi be dead? Or will there be BS like Kenpachi is instilling fear in that weak shit's mind so that he can't imagine beast like that dead? Hmm.. Or.. Kenpachi could just go for the immediate kill.


If his power was that much omnipotent he would have the power to end this war in a split second. Actually he could make it so that shinigami never existed and the Quincies ruled instead.
It's very likely that like any power in Bleach, for it to work as intended you must power it with more reiatsu than the enemy can handle.
Ken is the perfect character to handle that power.

I think the same as you.
As he/she killed(?) only severely wounded Captains (Vizards). He/she slowly makes people powerless and THEN he/she will kill them. Well... that's what I think.
And he/she is similar to Fulbringers: Gamer and "Doll house user". AFAIR, Ichigo broke Gamer's dimension.

ps. Too bad... that we won't see Yachiru in fight too much, I guess. Her power, telegraphing her attack to her 2 comrades, makes her vulnerable. Someone, like this "Imaginary person", can "read" it. Well.. she must encrypt it somehow :D
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Wannabiteme said:
ToG25thBaam said:
Shangetsu said:

If his power was that much omnipotent he would have the power to end this war in a split second. Actually he could make it so that shinigami never existed and the Quincies ruled instead.
It's very likely that like any power in Bleach, for it to work as intended you must power it with more reiatsu than the enemy can handle.
Ken is the perfect character to handle that power.

Peralisc said:

I think it will be something like kenpachi simply lacking imagination. All he thinks about is fighting and slaying down his opponent. It is really as if he can NOT think of anything else. :)

Oh yeah I actually misunderstood how that power works. The target must be imagining these things, not the user. If Kenpachi imagines himself to be the strongest one, then lol, I feel bad for his opponent for having to go against Kenpachi with that kind of power that backfires.


I think Quincy must imagine it not his/her opponent:
http://mangafox.me/manga/bleach/vTBD/c572/17.html

Shangetsu said:
Shaniyaz said:
Though, this is the power of the imagination turning into reality; if the enemy is defeated; won't the illusion be broken?


Pretty much what I believe will happen.
People will get overexcited because of a few 'deaths' without really thinking about it at all and when the fight end and it turns out they are alive these same people will be the one who call bullshit.

ToG25thBaam said:

Edit: Oh but, couldn't the guy just imagine Kenpachi's dead, and wouldn't Kenpachi be dead? Or will there be BS like Kenpachi is instilling fear in that weak shit's mind so that he can't imagine beast like that dead? Hmm.. Or.. Kenpachi could just go for the immediate kill.


If his power was that much omnipotent he would have the power to end this war in a split second. Actually he could make it so that shinigami never existed and the Quincies ruled instead.
It's very likely that like any power in Bleach, for it to work as intended you must power it with more reiatsu than the enemy can handle.
Ken is the perfect character to handle that power.

I think the same as you.
As he/she killed(?) only severely wounded Captains (Vizards). He/she slowly makes people powerless and THEN he/she will kill them. Well... that's what I think.

ps. Too bad... that we won't see Yachiru in fight too much, I guess. Her power, telegraphing her attack to her 2 comrades, makes her vulnerable. Someone, like this "Imaginary person", can "read" it. Well.. she must encrypt it somehow :D

But then I remember he said "You must be thinking if the bones of your arm turned into cookies, the rest of the bones within your body must've been turned into cookies too" and that led me to think that the target must think that way. I cannot be sure of it yet.

@Shangetsu
I think his power has a range, the vice captain said something like "when was I in this box(?)"
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Yes Kubo, yes...that's how you did it in the past...suspense creation is your best strength...stick to that...and Kenpacchi Zaraki is a legendary creation by you...great work with this scary new Quincy and great work with the entrance of the ultimate bad ass...although that imagination power is more suitable for Yachiruo to handle I believe...so it willl be Yachiruo vs the new quincy...great work Kubo
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Kotetsu's Face!!! XD Lol....Tough after I saw the Reason...Very understandable reaction.... Yachiru...it has been so clear for so far, but...she really is Child...even if she is Lieutenant and somewhat wild beast.

O.O WHAT!!!!!!!!!!????? Rose!!! Kensei!!!! Nononononononoo!!! Don't you dare do this Kubo....You Piece of Shit Don't YOU DARE!!!

Well, that Imagine Quincy Just Died right now...Kenpanchi Is In the House... Though It Captains Deaths better just be Imagination..
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What is Yukine from Noragami doing in Bleach? He got lost?
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This guy seems like mince meat for Zaraki, I think he's going to let Yachiru handle the fight and have his fight a little later on.
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Jouten said:
Fuck...I can't believe Kensei and Rose are dead just like that. Kubo's sadistic side is finally showing through. Seems like since Bleach is in the final arc he'll continue to be kill happy and make his "Shounen" more into a "Seinen". Also Fucking yes! Kenpachi is back!

lmao this is kubo we're talking about you know how many "deaths" he's had during the series and then somehow the characters end up being alive. momo, hitsuguya, hiyori, byakuya, kira, ginjou, the list goes on and on...don't worry kensei and rose aren't dead.
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Oh boy, here's just what Bleach needed: a smug, overpowered, reality warping Mary Sue with an ability that is essentially a big "I win" button. Kubo obviously didn't have enough of Byakuya, Gin, Aizen, Slazyel, Barragan, Tsukishima, that PSVita Fullbringer kid that just had to add yet another villain like those. Hopefully, Kenpachi will mop the floor with him.

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so, what do you think, are they really dead or is it just 'I imagined them dead so they are'?

I can totally see this ending in "everything I imagined didn't REALLY happen" and everything going back to normal once he's dead. I sure hope not...


Also, this will totally happen, mark my words.
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Quincy doesn't fight with the arrow anymore ...
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Quincy doesn't fight with the arrow anymore ...

Lol
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This kid is both OP and creepy, but since Zaraki fucking Kenpachi is in, we don't have to worry about anything! Tho...i wanted Yachiru to get all the spotlight she deserved.Hopefully this is not her last fight.
Also, if his power is simply imagination, then captains are probably not dead.Its only what Isane's imagined after all.
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NOOOO ! Kensei was one of my fav. character in bleach. Did that bastard quincy kill kensei and love in their bed ??? DAMNNN !!
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Bleach's writing is just laughably bad, everytime someone with a new overpowered spell appears the shinigami who meets him will just be a natural counter.
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Quincy doesn't fight with the arrow anymore ...

This has been bugging me for a couple of chapters already. Well there are only so many different fighting styles you can come up with if it's always just bows, so Kubo probably decided to fuck that and now anything goes as far as abilites are concerned.
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This kid is both OP and creepy, but since Zaraki fucking Kenpachi is in, we don't have to worry about anything! Tho...i wanted Yachiru to get all the spotlight she deserved.Hopefully this is not her last fight.
Also, if his power is simply imagination, then captains are probably not dead.Its only what Isane's imagined after all.

Is this an innuendo? If yes, you sir, are good.

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But then I remember he said "You must be thinking if the bones of your arm turned into cookies, the rest of the bones within your body must've been turned into cookies too" and that led me to think that the target must think that way. I cannot be sure of it yet.

@Shangetsu
I think his power has a range, the vice captain said something like "when was I in this box(?)"

Well... it can be bat translations so we both can be right.
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grandy_UiD said:
Jim_Heart said:
Quincy doesn't fight with the arrow anymore ...

This has been bugging me for a couple of chapters already. Well there are only so many different fighting styles you can come up with if it's always just bows, so Kubo probably decided to fuck that and now anything goes as far as abilites are concerned.
im sure they said that they abandoned the old age quincies ways?

also this kid didnt get surprised from kenpachi? hmm.
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Nice! I thought the creepy guy was gonna get a powerup and then kenpachi was going to step in but this new quincy sure is scary. Nothing kenpachi can't handle though.
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Bleach's writing is just laughably bad, everytime someone with a new overpowered spell appears the shinigami who meets him will just be a natural counter.


Yeah I agree.
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Fuck...I can't believe Kensei and Rose are dead just like that. Kubo's sadistic side is finally showing through. Seems like since Bleach is in the final arc he'll continue to be kill happy and make his "Shounen" more into a "Seinen". Also Fucking yes! Kenpachi is back!

lmao this is kubo we're talking about you know how many "deaths" he's had during the series and then somehow the characters end up being alive. momo, hitsuguya, hiyori, byakuya, kira, ginjou, the list goes on and on...don't worry kensei and rose aren't dead.

Kira?, he haven't appeared since Bazz-B make a hole in him, why you say he isn't dead?
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Oh damn, Kenpachi is back. Shit is about to go down now.
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Nooo Kensei! Rose! This can't be happening like this. So if that guy tells you "imagine if they are dead" then it will become true? I won't believe it! He is playing some simple mind games by planting the idea of something happening in his opponent's head. Hax ability with very dangerous effect on ones mind and body, look at Yachiro, her body might not be broken, it's just in her head. I still wont believe they are dead just because of imagination. (Hisagi will lose another captain, please no).

Oh, hey Kenpachi, nice of you to drop by.
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Well, at least she wasn't treating Unohana. And hooray for fucking random deaths. Also, thank you, Quincy, for pointing out the obvious to the Shinigami, since they don't seem to fucking get that explaining your power to your enemy is not a good idea.

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tankoubon-feind said:
Jouten said:
Fuck...I can't believe Kensei and Rose are dead just like that. Kubo's sadistic side is finally showing through. Seems like since Bleach is in the final arc he'll continue to be kill happy and make his "Shounen" more into a "Seinen". Also Fucking yes! Kenpachi is back!

lmao this is kubo we're talking about you know how many "deaths" he's had during the series and then somehow the characters end up being alive. momo, hitsuguya, hiyori, byakuya, kira, ginjou, the list goes on and on...don't worry kensei and rose aren't dead.

Kira?, he haven't appeared since Bazz-B make a hole in him, why you say he isn't dead?


Because this is Bleach.
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