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cantiusFeb 27, 2018 7:57 AM
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| wow he had to shoot at his own dad, but the guy deserved it for trying to steal the mobile suit and go back to the titans |
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| Yay for Char referencing himself. Too bad it backfired on him. |
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| That shitty father deserved to get killed. He even stole a Gundam to go back to his mistress, bastard~ I feel sorry for Kamille, but I still dislike him~ Char was awsome as always~ |
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| Yay. Kamille is one of the orginal whiney complaining brats of anime. ♥ |
| "This blowtorch cuts flesh as well as metal" Captain Obvious has made an appearance I see |
| Quattro just name-dropped himself LAWL |
| 頭脳は子供、見た目は大人！ ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ |
| Pretty good episode, not OMG amazing or anything, but I liked what happened here. I still have a problem connecting with Kamille, though and i could see that hindering my experience with the series. Still, Quattro was great and I liked his story about Char Aznable |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I feel bad for Kamille. He's so bold and passionate about his opinions. What a fiery teenager opposing social injustice. Char's self-reference was pro. |
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| Finally feels like this is picking up a bit of momentum, the series has had an alright start but hasn't really stood out for me until this episode. |
| Kamille's dad deserved to die, what an asshole. |
| Wow, Kamille's dad stole Gundam to get back to his mistress? Way to go... There wasn't slap in this episode! :O |
| Quattro seems more soft-hearted than Char. It's nice. That father was a total idiot. He had the perfect opportunity and yet he goes back because his dick said so? Kamille's Whiny Bitch mode was turned to max in the end of this episode. I can't even feel sorry for him since he kept complaining at the end. How awful his parents were to each other, then how no one had the right to tell him about his parents because they were died in front of his eyes. Yet not once did he complain about how they treated him. How were they terrible parents? Affairs doesn't necessarily make bad parents... And if they were, why are you whining so much about them being dead? I really hope this character doesn't act like this for long. |
| The part where Char referenced himself was awesome. |
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| Oh my, that Char self-reference was pure gold. Also glad to see he seems way more caring and soft-hearted than he used to be (caring about the safety of the colony he and his men infiltrated to steal the MKII's, trying to help Kamille after he lost both parents, pretty much not killing anyone unless necessary) : Quattro Bajeena pretty much seems to be an upgraded Char Aznable. Looking forward to see where that goes. Another crazy shitty sex-obsessed scientist dad who died from his own stupidity. Kamille turned on his hardcore emo mode for this episode and god that was hard to watch: on the one hand it's pretty realistic for a kid like him to be super confused and angry at the sudden loss of his mom and dad, but on the other you can't help but want to slap him back to his senses. |
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| Wow another intense episode!! First off i'm glad Kamille's father died like a fucking idiot. That's what you get for betraying your son once again. I feel bad losing Rick Dias, but they'll make a new one for sure! Did you see Char too off his sunglasses and look pissed off that some asshole went of with his suit?? He even has the scar from the One Year battle! Wow Char referencing himself!! Quattro seems like a nice name, but he will always be Char! Though Kamille was disrespectful to Char, when he himself is giving you advice based on his personal experience. Emma and Reccoa probably knows Quattro is Char :P Still Kamille is such a cry baby. I don't think Amuro cried this much last season! Can't wait for the next episode!! |
| Omg Camille's a whiny angry crazy emo bitch |
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| So Quattro, how does it feel to pilot Gundam Mk II after being defeated by the first Gundam so many times? |
| Ehh. Kamille is really annoying at the moment; first he trash talks his parents, then he says nobody else can talk about them because they died in front of him? I get that they weren't good parents, but he's been way too unreasonable. Like insan3, it's getting to the point where I think it could affect my enjoyment of the series. We'll see how it goes. The Char namedrop was pretty cool though. I don't know if it's just me, but the Gundams don't feel as superior to other mobile suits as it did in the first series. The original Gundam was cutting edge technology. It may just be that I'm accustomed to more mobile suits destroyed per battle, but it doesn't seem like people are hitting each other very often in this, so far. |
TripleSRank said: Ehh. Kamille is really annoying at the moment; first he trash talks his parents, then he says nobody else can talk about them because they died in front of him? I get that they weren't good parents, but he's been way too unreasonable. Like insan3, it's getting to the point where I think it could affect my enjoyment of the series. We'll see how it goes. The Char namedrop was pretty cool though. I don't know if it's just me, but the Gundams don't feel as superior to other mobile suits as it did in the first series. The original Gundam was cutting edge technology. It may just be that I'm accustomed to more mobile suits destroyed per battle, but it doesn't seem like people are hitting each other very often in this, so far. Kamille's a bitch. Many people will say he get's better as the series goes on. He does become more competent and mature... But I maintain that he was a 'lil bitch from beginning to end. And yes the Gundam Mk. II isn't as godly as the original Gundam. This series goes through mobile suit upgrades bitchin' fast, and in fact by the end of the series the Mk. II is completely obsolete. Just wait 'til they get the Zeta Gundam. |
| Alright. I'll steel myself, in that case. I'll look forward to the Zeta Gundam. |
| That moment where Char referenced himself was awesome. |
| Char now knows how Bright felt throughout the entire original series, hihi. I really like how the rebels took it upon themselves to paint their mobile suit in the style of the original Gundam. I wonder what the thought process behind that was... Bitchslap count: 5 |
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fst said: Now you're just being a h8er.TripleSRank said: Ehh. Kamille is really annoying at the moment; first he trash talks his parents, then he says nobody else can talk about them because they died in front of him? I get that they weren't good parents, but he's been way too unreasonable. Like insan3, it's getting to the point where I think it could affect my enjoyment of the series. We'll see how it goes. The Char namedrop was pretty cool though. I don't know if it's just me, but the Gundams don't feel as superior to other mobile suits as it did in the first series. The original Gundam was cutting edge technology. It may just be that I'm accustomed to more mobile suits destroyed per battle, but it doesn't seem like people are hitting each other very often in this, so far. Kamille's a bitch. Many people will say he get's better as the series goes on. He does become more competent and mature... But I maintain that he was a 'lil bitch from beginning to end. |
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TripleSRank said: Ehh. Kamille is really annoying at the moment; first he trash talks his parents, then he says nobody else can talk about them because they died in front of him I have the same problem. It doesn't make sense to me because it changes every second (like with the mom last episode) from the child hating his parents to a child loving his parents. (I know teenagers can be like that, but not in such a short time). At least, it gives another occasion for Casval to show how much more "adult" he became in seven years. Big impression Reccoa and Emma know his true identity (even the captain of the ship). At this point, why does he still use an alias (Quattro)? (btw, since everyone knows Artesia and Casval's story, why does he even reference his past life as Char?) 3.5/5 |
Rei_IIIApr 7, 2016 3:25 AM
| Pretty good episode, loving how this is progression story and character wise! Let's see what's next. |
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| Do not ask me why, but compared to the past, I really enjoyed the story and start to be a participant. The plot moves forward always shipped manner, the story does not show breaks in the events, on the one hand is good but also bad. Drawings and animations, very good. Choreography of more than decent fights, interesting dialogues, shame that I will not be able to understand well the meaning since I have not the right subtitles. |
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| Good episode, however,while i was sympathetic towards Kamille, his attitude in general is starting to piss me off. |
| The last part of this episode really captured why Kamille is so messed up and why he is such a unlikable character. Seeing both your parents die in front of you and have a less than desirable family life is something most people would sympathize with. The problem with Kamille is that regardless of what family problems he has, he is not a functioning human being. If you met a person like Kamille in real life, you would do whatever you could to avoid him because he is not a person you would ever want to be around. He can't control his emotions, and he acts on those emotions without any regard to the consequences of his actions. The only just in the anime is that Kamille is making his own tragedy. Every bad action that has occurred to him throughout the anime is due to his poor decisions. His parents wouldn't be dead if he didn't punch Jared in the first episode, or if he didn't steal the Gundam. I imagine bad things will continue to happen to him until he learns to manage his severe personal flaws. I can at least respect this about the anime. My big question is how did they ever think this would be entertaining. I would rather the main character at least be a functioning human being. |
| Sorry, but this knocking of Kamille for being whiny.. I'm giving him a pass. With all the brats we've seen in anime, this one I understand. I mean, he watched both of his parents die! You can see why he is such a rebel as his dad was a mega dick face. Kamille is deeply flawed, especially with the experiences he has had. I wonder how he'll turn out to be less threatening and more of the good guy as the show goes on. Anybody think it was funny that Char was piloting a Gundam? So I'm now getting the fancations straight: Titans are apart of the Earth Federation, but are now power hungry and are just like the Zeons. Char's rebel group is from the earth federation and they're sick of The Titans. Also, Emma is awesome :). |
| What this kid want??? I put kid in bold because I'm not expect him to always make great decisions/choices (to err is human)… regardles of right ones or wrong ones aside he needs to understand that every decision he made have a consequence and so far, he is acting like he wasn’t the one who make the choice(s). If this is the way that this show is trying to make him likeable their failing miserably... Ston3_FreeN7 said: +1I still have a problem connecting with Kamille, though and i could see that hindering my experience with the series. TripleSRank said: This...Ehh. Kamille is really annoying at the moment; first he trash talks his parents, then he says nobody else can talk about them because they died in front of him? I get that they weren't good parents, but he's been way too unreasonable. Like insan3, it's getting to the point where I think it could affect my enjoyment of the series. We'll see how it goes. I don't know if it's just me, but the Gundams don't feel as superior to other mobile suits as it did in the first series. The original Gundam was cutting edge technology. It may just be that I'm accustomed to more mobile suits destroyed per battle, but it doesn't seem like people are hitting each other very often in this, so far. Phaetons_Folly said: Preach!The last part of this episode really captured why Kamille is so messed up and why he is such a unlikable character. Seeing both your parents die in front of you and have a less than desirable family life is something most people would sympathize with. The problem with Kamille is that regardless of what family problems he has, he is not a functioning human being. If you met a person like Kamille in real life, you would do whatever you could to avoid him because he is not a person you would ever want to be around. He can't control his emotions, and he acts on those emotions without any regard to the consequences of his actions. The only just in the anime is that Kamille is making his own tragedy. Every bad action that has occurred to him throughout the anime is due to his poor decisions. His parents wouldn't be dead if he didn't punch Jared in the first episode, or if he didn't steal the Gundam. I imagine bad things will continue to happen to him until he learns to manage his severe personal flaws. I can at least respect this about the anime. My big question is how did they ever think this would be entertaining. I would rather the main character at least be a functioning human being. |
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| Tbh, I ended up dropping the show because of Kamille. I think these OG Gundam series never really totally connected with me because half the time, Idk what the fuck is going on with the characters. Even 0079 and Turn A had this problem for me, though I did end up finishing the both of them. I probably will come back to this series eventually though because it just feels wrong to not have watched it all. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Busted Char. And Kamille,please change. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
I'm surprised they aren't painting one of the Gundam's Red for Char. I mean, I guess he still had his own mobile suit while the painting was still happening, so maybe now that the Rick Dias is destroyed he will paint one red. Let the record show that Astonaige is a dumbass. A soldier unwilling to give his life (which probably wouldn't have even been necessary, the guy is like 50) to protect an important asset for his military is just pathetic. I love how they are trying to be subtle by connecting "Quattro" with the Red Comet. Note I said trying, as they aren't doing a very good job. "Kamille is a strong boy!" Wonder who it was that telepathically talked to Kamille. I wish I cared that Kamille's dad is dead too, but I just don't. When does Emma become Kamille's lover? The show promised me at least that much. Again, very subtle. I love watching 80s anime so much. |
| Kamille: bawling over his dead parents credits: oh, i can't help believing you How did Kamille know that Char took revenge on the Zabi family? Like, that would have had to become common knowledge just days before this, because Char was living without scrutiny in Zeon/Axis right before the first episode of Zeta. |
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| i mean he should have killed his dad himself cause his dad was trying to kill him overall his dad was a stuipd pos overall but yeah so far im liking the mc even though he can be a bit annoying at times i look forward to when he matures and such and see him being real serious but guess that'll take some time as its still really early in the series |
| "one step at a time" |
| I didn't get what was happening at the very beginning before the title card. It seems from this episode that Char's comrades didn't really realise that he was Char. Suspected him of it though. I wonder where did he get his new name from. I should also say that Zeta seems to have some interesting new ideas so far. For example, flares are used quite a lot for delivering signals and orders in battles. I like that detail. Judging by the talk at the end, it's pretty much well-known now that Char is Casval. The lighting in this scene was strange btw. I also have to say that this seems to be the first episode without a slap. P.S. Char seems to have a Harry Potter styled scar on his forehead now. How did he get it? P.P.S. What's the problem of picking up Kamille's father floating in space? It's not like he disintegrated or something. Same for his mom. I also wonder who shot Rick Dias and whose voice was that. Is it implied to be Quattro? ------------- @Rei_III It seemed to me that the captain and Blex just happened to guess that Quattro = Char, it's not like they knew it all along, I think. As for Reccoa and Emma, I'm not sure at all. Why would Emma know? Why would Reccoa? Only if she had an affair with him earlier, which might be indicated by the fact that Quattro placed a hand on her shoulder, which shows some trust and closeness. Or maybe kindness. The entire scene is so subtle that I can't really say whether Reccoa knew of Quattro's identity or guessed it in the proccess. Or maybe didn't guess at all. I don't know. But I think that it won't be too long until Casval drops his new nickname and returns to his old self. |
St0rmbladeMay 23, 2020 4:28 PM
| @St0rmblade He got his family name from... Tomino keeping pushing the frontiers in provocative names to test the higher-ups. I thought the 4 was simply because it's his fourth identity, |
| The parents are gone...I like where this is going |
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| Man that final scene of Kamille breaking down at his bed really got me. Now I'm finally feeling the right direction coming forward for this story. |
| I like that something is happening and less repetitive than the original Gundam but I'm annoyed by Kamille forced drama. |
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| So far this is a great ride, and I’m so happy we have 40+ more episodes to go! Papa Char will take care of poor down trodden Kamille and steer him in the right direction. I’m excited to watch Kamille grow :) |
| People are just defecting left and right. Almost every episode had a character defecting to the other side, lmao. Kamille now having lost two parents on the same day is tough. Wonder if he'll get even more messed up now than he already was. But I gotta admit I feel a little sorry about him. His parents seemed to be pretty shitty to him. Char talking about himself was entertaining. |
Haha, I can't believe how many betrayals, hostages, and gundam hijacks there have been in the first five episodes. Zeta is looking to be far more interesting than the original's story. |
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| 5 episodes in and there's still no way to take any of the characters seriously. The dialogue is also hilariously bad. |
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