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Aug 27, 2009 11:59 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Just what everyone wanted to know, Barragan's past. Does anyone actually care about him? At least we know what if he really was king of Hueco Mundo.
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Does anyone actually care about him?
Exactly what I was thinking.

At least we get to finally move on though.
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Aug 28, 2009 12:12 AM
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So that's what it was like prior to Aizen =O
Aug 28, 2009 12:20 AM
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"I am the king, and the very sky of Hueco Mundo is the roof of my palace." -Barragan

P.S. That's a very "dope" line. mhh...
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Aug 28, 2009 12:25 AM
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Kinda boring...
I didn't really want to know about Barragan's past :D

Anyways, looking forward to the next chapter
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Aug 28, 2009 12:39 AM
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Hmm, chapter's done. Next?
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Aug 28, 2009 12:43 AM
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and the fans reply with a resounding "meh"
Aug 28, 2009 12:56 AM
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Hum...
I liked this past...
Yes... I wanted his past. ^^
Aug 28, 2009 12:58 AM
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Amagai said:
"I am the king, and the very sky of Hueco Mundo is the roof of my palace." -Barragan

P.S. That's a very "dope" line. mhh...
yeah that was a cool line XD
seriously who needs a roof anyway.
Aug 28, 2009 1:04 AM

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so barragan was actually the king of hueco mundo, so where does stark fit into all this i wonder?
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Aug 28, 2009 1:28 AM

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Good chapter, if only to show how broken Aizen is.
Aug 28, 2009 1:31 AM

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It was interesting to find out that Barragan was once the King of Hueco Mundo, but otherwise I just wanted him dead so we can get on with some other fights.

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Amagai said:
"I am the king, and the very sky of Hueco Mundo is the roof of my palace." -Barragan

P.S. That's a very "dope" line. mhh...

I agree on this.

His past was unneeded, it would have been useful, if his attack to Aizen would have reach and At least put a Scratch on him, but since it didn't it was useless.

and in his past it shows Aizen wearing glasses. Umm if i'm not mistaken, did he not take them out when he was leaving soul society, and let his hair loose or something like that... so he put it back after saying oh look at me look cool, then puts his glasses back on... huh
Aug 28, 2009 2:08 AM

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i wanted to see more of Aizen's zanpaktou.
Aug 28, 2009 2:13 AM

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His past was unneeded, it would have been useful, if his attack to Aizen would have reach and At least put a Scratch on him, but since it didn't it was useless.

and in his past it shows Aizen wearing glasses. Umm if i'm not mistaken, did he not take them out when he was leaving soul society, and let his hair loose or something like that... so he put it back after saying oh look at me look cool, then puts his glasses back on... huh


Saying Bleach has wasteful pages is reduntant, don't you think? Plus, Kubo style characterization demands character development (i.e. flashbacks) after the fact so that we'll care about them as soon as they're useless to the story.

As for the glasses, we just have to assume it was done before the Aizen leaves SS. Remember, the Menos pulled them out, so they already had control at the time.

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i wanted to see more of Aizen's zanpaktou.


that was his zanpakuto... he broke the illusion (I think).
Aug 28, 2009 2:51 AM
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So Kyouka Suigetsu's chant is "Break"

Interesting


Well it was an ok past. Now time for some Stark action
Aug 28, 2009 2:59 AM

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Ah...
I just remark now...
But Barragan launch his axe toward Aizen before dying...
Loved this act.
Aug 28, 2009 3:01 AM

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Ah well it was an OK chapter -.-
but hopefully the battles are gonna be more interesting now ^^
*stark fights* =^^=
Aug 28, 2009 3:13 AM

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In case you wanted another chapter dedicated to number 2's death.

What is the point of giving us background info on someone who's death anyway? It's not as if he'll be important to the story from this point on.
Aug 28, 2009 3:19 AM

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Good chapter I guess, interesting flash back.
But that was really useless, like almost all the chapters of Bleach, now I'm use to it.
Anyway how can he be the king of hueco mundo if he's defeated by a captain and vice captain?
He's surely not a vastrolorde so how?
That's probably a self proclamed title with no real meaning.
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Anyway how can he be the king of hueco mundo if he's defeated by a captain and vice captain?
He's surely not a vastrolorde so how?
That's probably a self proclamed title with no real meaning.



Agreed. Even that time Stark would have been much stronger than him (but he's kinda lazy ass so i think Barragan was running the show there)

But still I don't think he was the supreme ruler or something
Aug 28, 2009 3:43 AM
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Another chapter with Barragan. But, at least we'll definitely don't see him anymore.

This chapter was really unnecessary. I don't like retrospections while the opponent's dying. When we can procide to another interesting battle, we receiving another boring history about the Espada's past.

We'll really see in next chapter the battle between Love, Rose and Stark? I always thinked, that we'll see Halibel death first.
Aug 28, 2009 4:01 AM

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Hopefully "Barragan Arc" is over.
I wonder how strong that Stark is.
Aug 28, 2009 4:09 AM

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One of the few good chapters in Bleach nowadays
Aug 28, 2009 4:51 AM

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I wasnt really intrested in this chapter, I just wanna see Stark and Haribel's fights
Aug 28, 2009 5:01 AM

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I thought it was sweet how Barragan cursed Aizen in his final moments.

Seeing Aizen do something was pretty sweet. Hope we get a more eventfull chapter next week. Wonder what Stark was doing while Barragan was king. And how Aizen got the rest of his vasto lorde...
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Agreed. Even that time Stark would have been much stronger than him (but he's kinda lazy ass so i think Barragan was running the show there)


I don't think Starrk even existed then. Well, at least he wasn't an espada. Remember, it was Aizen that made the espada what they are today. And he was planning the whole thing long before leaving SS, which means the flashback is set in time when:
1. Aizen is still a captain
2. Still wears his glasses xD
3. Is already planning to leave the SS.
4. There are no espada per se, maybe even no hollows that were later made the espada.
5. Hueco Mundo really is under Barragan's rule.

At least that's what I think, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Aug 28, 2009 5:07 AM
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It was Barragan's past but it was indeed good to see Aizen coming to Hueco Mondo...
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i wanted to see more of Aizen's zanpaktou.


yeah me too...!!!
Aug 28, 2009 5:22 AM
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Hmm, so Barragan actually despised Aizen, yet he submitted so that he could become an arrancar? Lame...

Next chapter please and I thought that Stark's fight would be last since he IS the Primera.
Aug 28, 2009 6:15 AM

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One of the best chapters in a couple of months.

Too bad that when we finally get some sort of character development, it's on a character that will never show up again ¬¬
Aug 28, 2009 6:53 AM

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What is the point of giving us background info on someone who's death anyway? It's not as if he'll be important to the story from this point on.


Exactly my thoughts.
Aug 28, 2009 7:01 AM

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That's true. I was actually really interested in the story of Barragan, althought I'm surprised that the Bankai of Aizen is soo strong...
Aug 28, 2009 7:06 AM

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it was alright, now lets move on.
Aug 28, 2009 7:51 AM

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nothing happened :D
Aug 28, 2009 8:17 AM
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meh.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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Aug 28, 2009 9:00 AM

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Learning what the espada were like before meeting Aizen is kinda cool. I hope they do it with the 3 who are left if/when they're about to die.
Aug 28, 2009 9:53 AM

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Fairly pointless chapter...who cares about Barragan?
Aug 28, 2009 10:29 AM

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this was fucking stupid

fuck you kubo tite, you fucking suck

an hero and do us a favor and end this manga
Aug 28, 2009 10:34 AM

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That's true. I was actually really interested in the story of Barragan, althought I'm surprised that the Bankai of Aizen is soo strong...
who the fuck ever even said the word bankai
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*facepalm*
Aug 28, 2009 10:43 AM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Just what everyone wanted to know, Barragan's past. Does anyone actually care about him? At least we know what if he really was king of Hueco Mundo.


No, No I don't...
I am glad they got him out of the way because I am far more interested int he others. I will say he saved himself a bit by chucking the Ax at Aizen ^_^;

@HooHiraiBunny I agree I think he just did the same thing nnoitra did and just gave himself the post it title -_-
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I did not like Barragan, but now I understand why he always wanted to be the leader. Well, now he has my respect, manage to get all that power alone, is complicated =x
I want to see Stark in action o//
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Aug 28, 2009 12:15 PM
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So this is how Aizen started taken over Hueco Mundo. Poor Barragan never had a chance against this overpowered villian. I mean look what his freaking sword can do.

Anyways it was nice little chapter to give us some background on how Aizen took over Hueco Mundo and I'm glad this was only one chapter.
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Hm it's interesting to find out how Aizen took over Hueco Mundo and the Las Noches palace. I'm glad the old guy finally died. Moving on to the next battle~ Starrk. I knew Halibel's gonna be the last one. Kubo saves Boobs to the end. Why didn't he make her Primero then? DDD: watev. mb she will magically become a good character HA LOL.


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RIP Barragan.



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Aug 28, 2009 2:02 PM

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Finally, the least interesting of the top three die. Barragan is surely a self proclaimed king. The Vasto Lorde or probably out there in Hueco Mundo thinking that Barragan isn't even worth their time to prove wrong.
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hJ said:
So Kyouka Suigetsu's chant is "Break"

I'm not so certain. I would bet that the actual release was not at "Break" but rather in the first panel on page 8 instead, where he told Barragan to look at it. From that point forward in the story, Barragan and everyone there was under hypnosis and therefore an unreliable narrator. All of that badassery on pages 12-13 was likely an illusion all in Barragan and company's respective heads.
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Does anyone actually care about him?
Exactly what I was thinking.

At least we get to finally move on though.

^this *sigh*
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I liked Barragan's backstory, however brief and uninspired it seemed. It is nice to know a little about Hueco Mundo before Aizen conquered it. To only be able to be defeated by his own power makes me wonder how Aizen defeated him without killing him.
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