Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic Chapter 216 Discussion

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Omg that kid is cute imo, also that Megane <3

Mar 3, 2014 6:05 AM

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HIPSTER UGO!........that is all.

Mar 3, 2014 6:13 AM

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Really fun chapter :D

Solomon's subordinate's that are now Djinn and Ithnan...etc are so hilarious XD
Megane Ugo and how he hides behind Ithnan and Solomon was lololol.

Solomon looks so BA! Aladdin definitely is related to him someway or another because he looks exactly like him there ^^

I also noticed how Sheba has some Aladdin in her too...so maybe she'll be his mother? And Solomon the father?

One thing I know for sure is that Sheba will have massive character development from now onward. She's hilarious with her monologues and her split personality when she goes mad mode XD

Loved the last page how Solomon looked at her like that saying "U're a despicable woman" while smiling XD So BA!! ^^

Really excited to see what their relationship will be.

Glad that this arc seems to be longer than I thought. Last chap I thought it'll be over already but now with the new events seems no need to worry about that :D

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Mar 3, 2014 6:22 AM

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Wow, that's Solomon? He looks way younger than I had expected and kinda familiar..

I am surprised that he is acting a bit different than what I had expected at the end there. Interesting. I'm also curious now on how their relationship will be like. Heh, humanity gaining the power of magic.

Mar 3, 2014 6:55 AM

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Solomon reminds me of Aladdin. His last lines caught me off guard, though.

kato5 said:
HIPSTER UGO!........that is all.

Well said. For characters who just made their first appearance, they're pretty likable.

Mar 3, 2014 6:55 AM

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I'm really fascinated by the story of Solomon I wonder how it really happened to their world and also to his companion Ithnan !!

Mar 3, 2014 7:02 AM

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A drunken Ithnan looks cute :3

Sheba (apparently based on the queen of Sheba) looks more like she could be Aladdin's mom rather than Gyokuen. The only thing she has in common with Gyokuen so far is their obssession with "father" and the moon staff, which makes me think that Sheba might not be Gyokuen and the staff might've fell in someone else's hand, or that we're in for a big mind f*ck.

Also, I don't know if it's just me, but does anyone else think that there are similarities between Solomon and Hakuryuu's father? They both reuntited their people, were great kings and were both betrayed by Gyokuen. There's even a panel where Hakutoku was greeting his people after he became king that was kind of similar to that panel where Solomon was greeting his people. I wonder if these similarities are intentional or I might be just reading too much into it.

Overall, Al-Thamen look like a cool bunch who are very loyal to Solomon. I wondervwhat went wrong between them.

Mar 3, 2014 7:19 AM

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Hipster Ugo for the fucking win

This was a good chapter, I can't wait to see what's next.

Mar 3, 2014 7:23 AM

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Hayayandere said:
A drunken Ithnan looks cute :3

Sheba (apparently based on the queen of Sheba) looks more like she could be Aladdin's mom rather than Gyokuen. The only thing she has in common with Gyokuen so far is their obssession with "father" and the moon staff, which makes me think that Sheba might not be Gyokuen and the staff might've fell in someone else's hand, or that we're in for a big mind f*ck.

Also, I don't know if it's just me, but does anyone else think that there are similarities between Solomon and Hakuryuu's father? They both reuntited their people, were great kings and were both betrayed by Gyokuen. There's even a panel where Hakutoku was greeting his people after he became king that was kind of similar to that panel where Solomon was greeting his people. I wonder if these similarities are intentional or I might be just reading too much into it.

Overall, Al-Thamen look like a cool bunch who are very loyal to Solomon. I wondervwhat went wrong between them.

You might want to link those panels (preferably batoto) so we can a better grasp of your theory. It does sound interesting I admit.

What makes you think that Sheba isn't Gyokuen? Who said that her name in both worlds was Gyokuen?

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Mar 3, 2014 7:25 AM

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Im gonna say this now, im sure alot of people probably have similar thoughts as me on this.

Solomon = Aladdin Father (kind of a given considering his appearance)

Sheba = Ren Gyouken = Aladdins mother? (will find out later i guess)

Ill Ilah (god?) = the person ren gyouken called father during black rukh incident in magnoshutatt?

ahmedkhan94Mar 3, 2014 9:37 AM

Mar 3, 2014 7:45 AM

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You might want to link those panels (preferably batoto) so we can a better grasp of your theory. It does sound interesting I admit.

What makes you think that Sheba isn't Gyokuen? Who said that her name in both worlds was Gyokuen?

This is when Solomon was greeting his people:

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/226205/magi_ch215_by_sense-scans/14

And this is Hakutoku (I said in my previous post that it took place after he became king, but my mistake, it was when Hakuryuu was a kid):

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/133226/magi_ch129_by_sense-scans/5

As for Sheba and Gyokuen, appearance-wise it doesn't add up so far (no beauty spot and the eyes are a bit difefrent). But like I said, maybe we're in for a big mind fuck and Sheba might've went through some sort of a change before she became the Gyokuen that we know.

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Mar 3, 2014 7:53 AM

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Hayayandere said:

GuiltyKing said:

You might want to link those panels (preferably batoto) so we can a better grasp of your theory. It does sound interesting I admit.

What makes you think that Sheba isn't Gyokuen? Who said that her name in both worlds was Gyokuen?

This is when Solomon was greeting his people:

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/226205/magi_ch215_by_sense-scans/14

And this is Hakutoku (I said in my previous post that it took place after her became king, but my mistake, it was when Hakuryuu was a kid):

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/133226/magi_ch129_by_sense-scans/5

As for Sheba and Gyokuen, appearance-wise it doesn't add up so far (no beauty spot and the eyes are a bit difefrent). But like I said, maybe we're in for a big mind fuck and Sheba might've went through some sort of a change before she became the Gyokuen that we know.

Personally I wouldn't make a connection just yet. But who knows, you might be on to something there.

For a magician of Gyokuen's caliber changing her appearance should be easy as pie. Part of me is certain that Sheba's Gyokuen, while another part can't forget about your doubts and is starting to doubt it itself. What are the chances of Sheba being the third Magi at Ugo's side and Gyokuen being a completely different being and a character that has yet to appear? Sure, the former possibility is the more likely one, but keeping the latter one in mind might not be bad for now.

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Mar 3, 2014 9:18 AM

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So Solomon is Aladdin right? (at least they look really similar). Cute kid, can't wait to see Solomon transform her into someone who isn't completely prejudiced toward other species.

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Mar 3, 2014 11:03 AM

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Makes sense why Aladdin has Solomon's wisdom now, other than the standard "he's the protagonist so he has to have THE special power".

Mar 3, 2014 11:03 AM

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okay am confused, in this chapter solomon looks exactly like aladdin but on the previous chapter a guy that looked exactly like aladdin was in solomons side WTF is going on???

oh btw i start falling for king solomon cause omg that damn line he said to that girl!! with that smile to die for!!!
but yeah wtf is going on here i didn't get a thing of what's happening

Mar 3, 2014 11:14 AM

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Ugo...Lol, This Was Quite Awesome.

Yep, Even if Aladdin is not Solomon Son he at least has some of his Blood in His Veins.. Similarities are too close to each other But It would have been revealed already..and It Would Be Too Obvious and Cliche if Aladdin were to be Solomon Son.

So Magicians started to Control everything when they Learned Their Skills From Illah... How I am Not Surprised..Humans have Much Potential yes, But It Is for Both Good And Evil. AND When You Give Humans Ultimate Power Like Magic....Of Course They Will Start Use it For The Creed and Other So Called "Deadly Sins"....Well Solomon's Group is different at least.

Sheba, Even if she is now somewhat Cute for some reason and Her Hate is more understandable because of the Brainwashing, She Is That or Will Be "The Traitor Magi" eh, Future Ren Gokyuen. Or at Least that is What I thought, especially after We Saw That Staff that She Was Holding in Her Hands when she Was Used by those Magicians in The Tower....Who Want's To Bet that Her Hate For The Non-Human and Sub-Humans will be Part of the Reason she will Betray Solomon in the End...

other Reason I can think Is Jealousy for IF King Solomon Falls In Love with Someone...Maybe with that Former Servant(Future Wife?) Abra? Who, By the way, I think is That Third Member of the Magi In the Next of the Ugo (mystery woman I mean)

So Solomon Really says what he Thinks without holding Back Eh? XD How Refreshing...AND DAMN COOL!!!

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Mar 3, 2014 11:53 AM

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Ahhh shit, Solomon is a bad ass.

Mar 3, 2014 12:14 PM

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I'm getting very confused with this flashback. In chapter 215 they seemed to be celebrating the unification of Alma Toran. In chapter 216 the world is thrown into chaos and Solomon seems really young and looks like Aladdin.

Mar 3, 2014 1:05 PM

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^ Yeah same here, I was really thrown off by this random flashback.

For Solomon, I'm kinda disappointed in his design, I imagined him as a classy bro dude Sinbad/Kouen look-a-like, not some JudalxAladdin love kid.

Still we will see where will all of this go, love that little girl tho.

Mar 3, 2014 1:18 PM

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SwordsmanDan said:
I'm getting very confused with this flashback. In chapter 215 they seemed to be celebrating the unification of Alma Toran. In chapter 216 the world is thrown into chaos and Solomon seems really young and looks like Aladdin.

indeed, they were celebrating the unification as you say. Aladdin began his story by telling us about how the magicians in Alma Torran came to be, then jumped to the part where the common goal had been accomplished, but before he went on to tell us how exactly that happened, he made a little jump back to tell us about Solomon and his household. We are seeing part of how Solomon managed to unify the world; something we really need to see.

The adult Aladdin look-alike was Gyokuen, while Solomon's adult face wasn't shown. Now we know what he looked like as a kid. And that is an exact copy of Aladdin as far as I can tell. There might be some connections in there as to why the similarities are *that* striking, but personally I'd wait for more to be revealed before making any crazy theories.
Hope you get it now.

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^ Yeah same here, I was really thrown off by this random flashback.

For Solomon, I'm kinda disappointed in his design, I imagined him as a classy bro dude Sinbad/Kouen look-a-like, not some JudalxAladdin love kid.

Still we will see where will all of this go, love that little girl tho.

The flashback's hardly random. At the end of last week's chapter there even was a note foreshadowing a possible flashback.

Me, I'm glad that King Solomon looks the way he does. He might look similar to Sinbad in his adult form (speculating here), but him looking like Aladdin as a teen makes him even more awesome.

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Mar 3, 2014 3:35 PM

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GuiltyKing said:

SwordsmanDan said:
I'm getting very confused with this flashback. In chapter 215 they seemed to be celebrating the unification of Alma Toran. In chapter 216 the world is thrown into chaos and Solomon seems really young and looks like Aladdin.

indeed, they were celebrating the unification as you say. Aladdin began his story by telling us about how the magicians in Alma Torran came to be, then jumped to the part where the common goal had been accomplished, but before he went on to tell us how exactly that happened, he made a little jump back to tell us about Solomon and his household. We are seeing part of how Solomon managed to unify the world; something we really need to see.

The adult Aladdin look-alike was Gyokuen, while Solomon's adult face wasn't shown. Now we know what he looked like as a kid. And that is an exact copy of Aladdin as far as I can tell. There might be some connections in there as to why the similarities are *that* striking, but personally I'd wait for more to be revealed before making any crazy theories.
Hope you get it now.

Ramkec said:
^ Yeah same here, I was really thrown off by this random flashback.

For Solomon, I'm kinda disappointed in his design, I imagined him as a classy bro dude Sinbad/Kouen look-a-like, not some JudalxAladdin love kid.

Still we will see where will all of this go, love that little girl tho.

The flashback's hardly random. At the end of last week's chapter there even was a note foreshadowing a possible flashback.

Me, I'm glad that King Solomon looks the way he does. He might look similar to Sinbad in his adult form (speculating here), but him looking like Aladdin as a teen makes him even more awesome.

I dont know why they are confused when this arc is clearly named the Alma Toran Arc.

Mar 3, 2014 3:41 PM

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GuiltyKing said:

SwordsmanDan said:
I'm getting very confused with this flashback. In chapter 215 they seemed to be celebrating the unification of Alma Toran. In chapter 216 the world is thrown into chaos and Solomon seems really young and looks like Aladdin.

indeed, they were celebrating the unification as you say. Aladdin began his story by telling us about how the magicians in Alma Torran came to be, then jumped to the part where the common goal had been accomplished, but before he went on to tell us how exactly that happened, he made a little jump back to tell us about Solomon and his household. We are seeing part of how Solomon managed to unify the world; something we really need to see.

The adult Aladdin look-alike was Gyokuen, while Solomon's adult face wasn't shown. Now we know what he looked like as a kid. And that is an exact copy of Aladdin as far as I can tell. There might be some connections in there as to why the similarities are *that* striking, but personally I'd wait for more to be revealed before making any crazy theories.
Hope you get it now.

Thanks, I get it a little bit more. I'm wondering if the assembly of world leaders is having as much trouble understanding as I am;)

Mar 3, 2014 3:53 PM

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That girl Solomon is with is very suspicious. Can't wait to see where it goes from here.

Mar 3, 2014 4:51 PM

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looks like theres a lot of twist and betrayal in this arc..I think i understand why Ugo and Arba is looking sad last ch, Ithnan and the rest are their former comrade who take side with Sheba(for now I'll say shes Gyokuen).

I'm not disappointed with Solomon's appearance since its a flashback of another flashback, look at Ithnan hes still have baby face in this Ch..

I dont know if I can bear to watch these betrayals since Falan is already my liking aru..

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Mar 3, 2014 5:27 PM

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power of magic goes to the human and 800 years of greed and dark time . other 9 species are stripped out of their intelligence and the plan to create a perfect alma toran is long forgotten . church is in autonomous rule to control magic and people are brainwashed !! an alliance of resistance faction is on run and doing revolutionary missions to take the world to the correct path !!!----

now thats what called an epic setting !! and what grand way to kick off an arc !! aladin's grand storytelling is on and soon we will see the betrayal . ohataka shinobo is getting close to oda in terms of arc structure and plotting . really eager to read whats coming next ! loving this arc !

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SwordsmanDan said:
I'm getting very confused with this flashback. In chapter 215 they seemed to be celebrating the unification of Alma Toran. In chapter 216 the world is thrown into chaos and Solomon seems really young and looks like Aladdin.

okey think of it like the trailer for the grand story thats coming next . its like a small narration of the setting before getting into the main story . like a sneak peak told in advance to show the overview of aladin's grand storytelling event.

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Hayayandere said:
Sheba (apparently based on the queen of Sheba)

Last time Solomon married Sheba, nothing good came from it.

Mar 3, 2014 6:50 PM

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nseika said:

Hayayandere said:
Sheba (apparently based on the queen of Sheba)

Last time Solomon married Sheba, nothing good came from it.

In the Islamic tradition. It ends up quite well.

Mar 4, 2014 1:08 AM

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Really interesting chapter. I think this arc has a lot of potential and seeing Solomos as a very young man instead of the all powerful King makes for a more interesting narrative. Sheba looks like a ignorant abused girl, and while I'm assuming that she might be Gyouken, we might still be in for a surprise later.

I have to admit I don't like the glasses look for the Alma Toran setting. Feels so out of place.

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Mar 4, 2014 1:41 AM

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Raigerzero said:

KanameFujiwara said:

nseika said:

Hayayandere said:
Sheba (apparently based on the queen of Sheba)

Last time Solomon married Sheba, nothing good came from it.

In the Islamic tradition. It ends up quite well.

True. In Islamic tradition, Solomon does not become corrupt and such (and the Queen of Sheba becomes a monotheist, which is a good thing in Islam). I'd also like to make clear that they didn't get married in the Islamic tradition.

I won't say that they didn't get married. Perhaps they did, perhaps they didn't. Where I come from however people used to tease my sister because her named is Balqis saying she might end up with someone named Solomon.

Mar 4, 2014 1:40 PM

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I think it's safe to assume that the girl talking to Solomon here (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/226205/magi_ch215_by_sense-scans/17) is Sheba. They are holding the same staff and the girl's probably using that hat thing (turban I think?) to hide those two things in her hair that stick out. That might also explain why Solomon is happy to talk to her, seeing as he had saved her and all and at this point believes she's not thinking too much like she did when she was younger. Anyways, I don't think that Sheba is Gyokuen, though there is always a chance that she is. There's a (probably extremely small chance) that Gyokuen is actually Sheba's and Solomon's daughter. And then Aladdin either turns out to be their son or Solomon's and Arba's son, or neither of course. If he was related directly to Solomon that might explain why he was kept in the Holy Palace for so long by Ugo. (Oh and hipster Ugo is the best). That's just another idea for those of you who hadn't thought of it.

Mar 4, 2014 10:08 PM

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I have a hunch that Arba is Gyokuen. Just a hunch.

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Mar 5, 2014 5:17 PM

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I'm always wondering....if there is Solomon, where the hell is David? xD

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Asfaria said:
So Solomon is Aladdin right? (at least they look really similar). Cute kid, can't wait to see Solomon transform her into someone who isn't completely prejudiced toward other species.

It seems that now we saw him is pretty much confirmed that Aladdin is Solomon's reincarnation.
I mean the Jins even said so back on chapter 186.
http://www.mangareader.net/magi/186/19.

So this girl is Gyokuen? I means this girl looks very similar to the crazy little shrimp we saw in the previous chapter getting asked if she was ok with it etc, so it must be her.
It seems Solomon never managed to completely convince her. Not only that but she even too some of his people to follow her.
Gyoken as we see her now is probably a reincarnation of her and that will explain the differences.

What am curious about is Illah. I assume it the same creature Gyokuen now calls "father". What could have made a God change like that and from a being of light become dark. Gyouken was crazy faithful to that creature it seems even in Alma Torran as we can see by this little girl(if it really is her) being fanatical about Illah and her faith remained even when it became a dark creature.

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Sheba looks cute, too bad that they brainwashed her, hopefully she'll change.

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