Why do you rather the anime?

Kaira-Chan said:
Ever since I became a otaku, I've wondered why people like watching the anime over reading the manga.

Kaira-Chan said:
Usually, you get more out of the manga and get to know exactly what the mangaka wants you to know.

Kaira-Chan said:
In the anime, there's a bunch of stuff the mangaka never intended for people to see or even thought of putting into the series.

Kaira-Chan said:
But, seriously, what draws you more to the anime than the manga?

Scynt_Skunk said:
Manga is too hard to follow. I only like action stories, and most mangaka cannot draw action it seems. You have to be very good at directing the viewer's attention and clarifiying actions that are occuring with a picture to be able to draw an action scene and most are incapable of doing that, so have art styles that are also blurry or overly shaded, which also cause more confusion in action scenes.

The fact that they are in black and white and not moving compound these factors even more. If manga was 100% in color all the time, I might consider reading it over the anime, because at least everything can easily be discerned in a picture quickly instead of having to stare at it for 15 whole minutes to try and figure out what I'm looking at.

moving and color > Black and white, stationary, and poorly drawn.

Kaira-Chan said:
lol I love the replies.

Kaira-Chan said:


That's true, I find it hard to concentrate on ill drawn manga. But I find it rather easy to follow along with the magakas artwork

zefiris26 said:
i would like reading manga if i could go and get it and read from the book. but i don't have to time to go and get it and it's kinda expensive... so i will just watch the anime online. for free.

KyuuA4 said:


One more thing with manga -- I'd rather read it -- as a book -- in my hands -- flipping pages -- instead of -- looking at -- scanslations. I used to do that, but I got annoyed. However, I'm not willing to pay extra for manga -- that I may just read -- once.

Kaira-Chan said:
Do you guys not know you can read it for free?

Alexstratz said:
I prefer mangas to animes because most of the time (I say most of the time), there's less censorship and more freedom for the author to to develop any ideas he has while animes have more standards to respect.

Pierre_Bezukhov said:


True. I haven't seen anything in manga that approaches the density that Watchmen and From Hell have reached. I wonder if it is possible to stay true to the nature of manga and still have a comic that is mostly cerebral and dense. The closest thing that I can think of is Akira (especially the ending) and Nausicaa. But they are told in a very different manner. In the two comics mentioned above, the readers are kept at a distance from the characters, both visually and emotionally. This is so the readers can focus on the larger picture of the story and themes.

Take GTO as a contrast. In that manga, there is an intense emotional connection make between the characters and the readers. The readers are drawn into the story as though they were partipents and actullay in class 3-4. By having the reader feel as though they were there, they can't take the position of an observer and ask questions on the theme (unless you are like Kanzaki and a genius). Instead, you care about the characters as a person (one of the strongest points in manga compared to Western comics) and whether or not it advances the theme or plot, you still care for the characters (or really hate them). The techniques that are used to do this are the usage of large panels that take up much of a page (or all of it), close-ups, subjective motion (blurring of the background during motion to take away a point of refrence and thus creating the illusion that you are going faster then you really are), and slanted panal borders, to name a few. A good example is below:



Another reason why it would be hard to animate Watchmen and other very dense comics would be the flow of the panels. Since the reader is removed from the action, they see time flow in a different manner. Instead of being there and feeling every moment (or what it seems like for that is an illusion created), they see only from moment to moment and not what happens inbetween (the illusion of a continuous and flowing time is broken). By adding a constant stream of time (as in film and animation), the reader/watcher would be much more immersed into the story.

It can be inferred from what I am saying is that Western comics (the works of Allen Moore in particular) stay true to the definition of a comic (sequential art where the reader is given images of moment in time to tell a story (or something like that (from Scott McCloud))) and manga is closer to animation, but that isn't entirely true. It is possible to stay true to the nature of manga (in regards to time) while still differencing your work from animation. Good examples are the later works of Osamu Tezuka (Adolf in particular) and TekkonKinkreet (as well as all works by Taiyo Matusmoto). Though it is possible to break the illusion of time while also remaining a manga (YKK and The Walking Man are the best example).

As you probably can tell, I am really interested in the theories of comics and the theoritcal differences between manga and Western comics. I am curious what your ideas on the subject are. I don't want to be the only one thinking about the subject.

Scynt_Skunk said:


I'll get some examples from manga I recently tried to read:

Abara


Rust Blaster


Majin Devil

Kaira-Chan said:
Ever since I became a otaku, I've wondered why people like watching the anime over reading the manga. Usually, you get more out of the manga and get to know exactly what the mangaka wants you to know. In the anime, there's a bunch of stuff the mangaka never intended for people to see or even thought of putting into the series. But I've always found the manga more interesting and because of it, I've been called colored blind and possibly deaf. >_< LOL But, seriously, what draws you more to the anime than the manga?

Pierre_Bezukhov said:


Television is much more addicting because it moves and grabs your attention.







These posts are from the Manga you like but not popular thread. Yes, I do prefer manga over anime.

Pierre_Bezukhov said:



I will admit that anime/film in general presents action much better (unless the author is focusing on the mental state of the characters).

However, black and white is actually a plus because it often stripes down all of the superficial details and emphasizes the emotions more. Take Red Color Elegy or Screw-Style, if that was colored, the atmosphere would be lost.

As for the mangas that you showed, give some background because if you ask what is going on with nothing to back it up, then you will get nothing. I don't know what the names of the creatures are, so I won't comment on the first one, but I do find it beautifully drawn. I don't understand what you are saying about the second one, it is perfectly clear. Again for the last one, I believe no one is familar with the story to actually answer. From what it looks like, he fllicked a guy back into the ground with a lot of strength. It the third panel, the guy knocked down is gettin up.

Scynt_Skunk said:


Here is a the picture of the two just before they get into the fight:
http://www.onemanga.com/Abara/1/29-30/

The pages of Abara may be beautifully drawn, but beauty doesn't mean much when you completely lack definition of shapes and edges, which is what the fight becomes in the panels I posted before.

How is the second one perfectly clear? Tell me what color the force that it hitting him is. What is it made out of? What texture does it have? Exactly what is the force doing to the character's flesh? Is it ripping his flesh? Burning it? Freezing it? Searing it? What is it doing?

Here is the page before the one I posted in Majin Devil:
[url=http://www.onemanga.com/Majin_Devil/1/35/]http://www.onemanga.com/Majin_Devil/1/35/

As you can see, the character is facing him. If he flicked him with his finger, from the height of where his hand was, the character would be on his back, but the character is on his stomach/side in the first panel on the next picture. It doesn't add up.

Pierre_Bezukhov said:


For the first one, in the large panel at the bottom, the large black creature in the upper-center-right is ripping one of the "guana"'s spine in half. As for everything else, it isn't part of this world and of the imagination. So therefore I couldn't say what the things were doing.

For the second one, what he is hitting him with is entirely within the context of the story. I haven't read it so I don't know what the guy's powers are. If he has no supernatural powers, then what he hits him with doesn't matter. I don't know if it Why does the color of the force matter. Hell, except smaller then an atom (theoritically), forces are invisible to the eye. Does the power Tetsuo from Akira have any color? What color is gravity? I have a question for you, have you read any colored comics? It's fiction so the author can make anything up since he has complete control.

Third one, again does it matter how he landed. Also maybe he was flicked on the shoulder? I flipped through the pages and the story was non-linear, so it was naturally confusing at first. Yes, some of the thick white spikes are there to show that the ground is breaking. The other lines are subjective motion that is part of manga (see my entry above).

These aren't the complete answer to what the pictures depict. I'm not going to spend all of my time reading those mangas up to that point. Before you judge all manga, read more of it because it you have to get familar with its language.

Don't use just a few to represent all of comics. Use this one as an example, it is clear, easy to read, and colored (read right to left):



It is "I Want You to Like Me" by Martain Cendra. Published in Kramers Ergot vol. 6.

Kaira-Chan said:
I buy the manga and read it online, for free..... Do you guys not know you can read it for free?

Scynt_Skunk said:

But that is what I'm saying. You SHOULD NEVER have to guess what happened in a fight. You're explainations of all three (barring the first panels of the first one you speak of) are guess or assumptions. If you can't, within 10 seconds of looking at a picture know exactly what is going on in the fight without ANY room for argument, guessing, or debate, then the mangaka did a horrible, horrible job OR it should never have been a manga and been an anime instead, where you can tell all these things without such guesswork.

It's a fight. It isn't a plot, or symbolism, or a metaphor. Certain things happened in one certain way, and they should be depicted to show all the certain things that happened exactly as they did.

As for what you said with the second manga, yes, all the weapons have a supernatural ability. One girl's produces a flame in the shape of a bird, another can produce ice (the only why I know what they are, as in flame and ice is because of how they called them out as "burn," and "freeze," or something to that extent. "kill them all is to vague to get any understanding of what that power is), and those are the only two I was ever able to figure out.

I'm going to assume you are not in the same mind-frame about manga/anime as I am, so I'll explain. I get enjoyment out of viewing the abilities of each character, discovering all of them and catorgorizing them all away in my brain. I need to know all there is to know about each and every characters' powers and I need to see every single fight that any of them are in in detail. You can keep all that plot and characterization crap, I just want the power and the fights.

As for that last comic you posted, you see, I HATE comedy, I HATE drama, I HATE romance, slice of life, yaoi, yuri, hentai, music, ecchi, historical, kids, etc.
I like action. I like nothing but action. So that doesn't apply to me. Because it is something I would NEVER read because people aren't beating the shit out of each other.

Anomalous said:

Reading something from a screen is very different from reading it from a book, so people tend to get manga in book form when they can or just don't read manga.

Whereas watching anime from a computer screen vs. from a tv screen isn't that different.

OP: I definitely prefer manga, personally, and I know tons of people who feel the same way.

Mari-chan said:
The only thing I have a problem with is when manga fans get so bent out of shape when the anime adaption doesn't follow religiously to the manga.
Seriously, tell me, what's the point in making it 100% like the manga?
Why's it so bad for it to be even a tiny bit different?