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Jul 25, 2009 8:32 PM

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Ok, I've just started reading Oniichan Control and it made me wonder, do the Japanese have a low population that they have to resort to their siblings because all i'm reading/watching these days have some sort of sis/bro love(eg. Oniichan no Koto Nanka Zenzen Suki ja Nai, Akane-Iro ni Somaru Saka to name a few)

Or is it a new fad which I've just missed? I mean my sister is hot(or so my friends tell me), but there's no way I could even think of her as someone i'd date and family ties are one thing, but not to the point it becomes perverted and yet here I am reading it as if its new entertainment for the new generation...

Anyone got some insight to this?

Oh, and I've put a poll up to see if you would date your sis/bro if society deemed it ok, please feel free to be honest, as it is anonymous so you won't get laughed at..
 
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Jul 25, 2009 8:33 PM

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It's ~forbidden~, so people get off to it.
 
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Jul 25, 2009 8:36 PM

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Incest is awesome. As long as it's only for the sex and doesn't involve procreation.
 
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AW, HELL NAW!
 
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Jul 25, 2009 8:47 PM

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Asako said:
Incest is awesome. As long as it's only for the sex and doesn't involve procreation.


Basically.

Wait, what?
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Jul 25, 2009 8:49 PM

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Best as twincest. It's just an easy way to make a complicated relationship and lots of drama. Not a new fad and not exclusive to Japanese media.
 
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Asako said:
Incest is awesome. As long as it's only for the sex and doesn't involve procreation.


so are you telling me that you would do it with your own flesh and blood? even though theres a whole school of fish out in this great big pond of society

I get the whole forbidden/taboo thing, but the last time i saw it was on jerry springer and they were a couple of hicks proclaiming their love to each other

i guess its each to their own, as the saying goes

shinkeikaku said:
Best as twincest. It's just an easy way to make a complicated relationship and lots of drama. Not a new fad and not exclusive to Japanese media.


yes...kiss x sis is a great example of what i'd dig as they're not blood related and find it to my taste of how far i'd go for the term 'forbidden'

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obliviouz said:
so are you telling me that you would do it with your own flesh and blood? even though theres a whole school of fish out in this great big pond of society


If I had a hot relative who was as in to the idea as I am, sure. Why not? If there's no procreation involved there's absolutely no reason not to. At least being close family spares you the need to go through the whole dating process and getting to know people and all that other crap.
 
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You totally just reminded me of a time my friend got drunk and said his sister was hot. We still give him shit for that from time to time and that was like 3 years ago.

As to your question i have no sisters and don't really spend any time with any of my female cousins even if i found it acceptable i would not because im not particularly attracted to any of them.
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Asako said:
obliviouz said:
so are you telling me that you would do it with your own flesh and blood? even though theres a whole school of fish out in this great big pond of society


If I had a hot relative who was as in to the idea as I am, sure. Why not? If there's no procreation involved there's absolutely no reason not to. At least being close family spares you the need to go through the whole dating process and getting to know people and all that other crap.


well i guess thats one way of putting it, and its good your honest....but there's just no way I could go through with it(could be the way I've been brought up)...I mean I have relatives who are half casts and whom I would see as fit...but this invisible line called 'Not allowed' is what, I guess is stopping me...

I guess some people just have that freedom of being open-minded, and these days, with manga and anime making it seem deemable, sooner or later society will just follow
 
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Good luck you Otaku sickos. Your 13 year old sister will not blow you like in anime. Stop saying that a 13 year old "imotou" is going to want to hang on to your nasty otaku figures while you bang her. I just had to throw that out there.

This disgusts me for the most part:
http://www.theanimereality.com/2009/07/21/incest-is-a-okay-fuck-your-sibling-today/
 
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KanjiiZ said:
Good luck you Otaku sickos. Your 13 year old sister will not blow you like in anime. Stop saying that a 13 year old "imotou" is going to want to hang on to your nasty otaku figures while you bang her. I just had to throw that out there.


my thoughts exactly but not to that extreme...
 
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Incestuous fantasies usually belong to those who have no siblings or those fantasizing about a completely fictional sibling. If someone is actually wanting to have sexual relations with their real sibling, they probably have issues(abuse, neglect, etc.).

I'm an avid believer of Jung's theory on this matter. It's not just the fact that they are your sibling, but most people just have a mental block that makes you not want sexual relations with those you grew up around.
 
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Wincest Anime stuff is usually good if you ask me ;) they are my favourite type of Hentai's and junk like that..When it comes to real life I would never commit incest or anything because that just not how I role but when it comes to anime its A-OK
 
Jul 26, 2009 10:18 AM

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Its all just fantasy, I try not to read too into it.

Oh and uh... no.
 
Jul 26, 2009 10:23 AM

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I hate my cousins but if they were cute i'd go for it.
 
Jul 26, 2009 10:24 AM

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have you ever even been outside the city you live in?

Go hang out at a farm and meet the "UNCLE FATHER" and "SISTER MOTHER"
 
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Reijin94 said:
Its all just fantasy, I try not to read too into it.


sooner or later, those fantasies become realities(just watch jerry springer), and even if you can pass it off as just a light anime, incest is incest and like ppl who get violent after watching an action flick....whats stopping the pervs from startin to hit up their family members since they're the safest bet.....my 2cents >.<
 
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obliviouz said:
(just watch jerry springer)
Please tell me you didn't just use Jerry Springer as a source lol.
 
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Defiance said:
obliviouz said:
(just watch jerry springer)
Please tell me you didn't just use Jerry Springer as a source lol.


i'm aussie, and live in a land of prude television, so the best source we can get on that type of 'real' content is jerry(whether the shows are real)
 
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obliviouz said:


i'm aussie, and live in a land of prude television, so the best source we can get on that type of 'real' content is jerry(whether the shows are real)


This is a good point, australian television sucks.
 
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Kurtz said:
obliviouz said:


i'm aussie, and live in a land of prude television, so the best source we can get on that type of 'real' content is jerry(whether the shows are real)


This is a good point, australian television sucks.


when you only have 5 free channels to choose from, it don't really take a scientist to think i live in a backwater country....thats why, instead of watching tv, we aussies sit out on our backyards feedings the kangaroos and wrestling the crocodiles
 
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when you only have 5 free channels to choose from, it don't really take a scientist to think i live in a backwater country....thats why, instead of watching tv, we aussies sit out on our backyards feedings the kangaroos and wrestling the crocodiles


Dont forget the radio-active koalas and spiders with health bars.
 
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It's fun listening to girls scream ONI-CHAAAAN~~
 
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Tendragroden said:
It's fun listening to girls scream ONI-CHAAAAN~~


the last thing i wanna hear is my gf calling me 'oniichan'.....all though she's more like an ane-go
 
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Anime fans are weirdos
 
Jul 26, 2009 11:26 AM

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Anime fans are weirdos


i 2nd that
 
Jul 26, 2009 12:06 PM

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obliviouz said:
the last thing i wanna hear is my gf calling me 'oniichan'.....all though she's more like an ane-go

Why do you automatically have to connect a fantasy scenario (like in manga) with reality? It's healthy to keep them separated. I don't refuse to watch action movies because I'm not into brutally murdering people. So I can read manga about screwing a sibling without actually wanting to.
 
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obliviouz said:
Ok, I've just started reading Oniichan Control and it made me wonder, do the Japanese have a low population that they have to resort to their siblings because all i'm reading/watching these days have some sort of sis/bro love(eg. Oniichan no Koto Nanka Zenzen Suki ja Nai, Akane-Iro ni Somaru Saka to name a few)

Or is it a new fad which I've just missed? I mean my sister is hot(or so my friends tell me), but there's no way I could even think of her as someone i'd date and family ties are one thing, but not to the point it becomes perverted and yet here I am reading it as if its new entertainment for the new generation...

Anyone got some insight to this?

Oh, and I've put a poll up to see if you would date your sis/bro if society deemed it ok, please feel free to be honest, as it is anonymous so you won't get laughed at..


Ok here's the deal. If your sister walked into your bedroom dressed in a baby doll bare assed, yes your cock WILL harden mainly because cocks are not very cooperative. If she strips you and TELLS you to fuck her, chances are good it ends with you filling her with your load somehow.

Now of course if she's considerably over weight, or someone beat her to hell and gone with an ugly stick you might require additional convincing.

But if my life has taught me anything, and I've been around a lot longer than most of you, it's your sex organ doesn't give a damn what your mind has to say on anything.

I'm fairly sure though, if you walked into your sister's room naked all stiff and ready for use, your life is likely in danger. I guess it's a gender thing.

Now would all you sexually confused teens please stop claiming all sorts of crap and just live with being male. The girls her all know the truth.

And for the record, yes, I'd fuck my sister if SHE demanded it.
But that's not relevant, as that's NEVER going to happen.
It's not that I would want to, I a just ok with accepting I'm an ordinary male, and I'm not full of shit.
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obliviouz said:
Tendragroden said:
It's fun listening to girls scream ONI-CHAAAAN~~


the last thing i wanna hear is my gf calling me 'oniichan'.....all though she's more like an ane-go
I dont fucking care. I do.
 
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Sukunai said:
Ok here's the deal. If your sister walked into your bedroom dressed in a baby doll bare assed, yes your cock WILL harden mainly because cocks are not very cooperative. If she strips you and TELLS you to fuck her, chances are good it ends with you filling her with your load somehow.

Now of course if she's considerably over weight, or someone beat her to hell and gone with an ugly stick you might require additional convincing.

But if my life has taught me anything, and I've been around a lot longer than most of you, it's your sex organ doesn't give a damn what your mind has to say on anything


Funny thing, you rest assured I'd slap any of my 3 attractive sisters If that happens. Ironically, we used to get along but now being basically adults we hate each other. I know it's usually the other way around. About cousins I don't know, I don't have any around.

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Now would all you sexually confused teens please stop claiming all sorts of crap and just live with being male. The girls her all know the truth.


What's the big idea about this girl thing anyway? Obviously being a guy makes it easier to have any kind of sexual relationship with your, err, desired object; the sole fact of having a penis and with heterosexual girls being majority. Of course it's hard to explain the confused teen he won't be necessarily hot in his desired girl form.
 
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obliviouz said:
Reijin94 said:
Its all just fantasy, I try not to read too into it.


sooner or later, those fantasies become realities(just watch jerry springer), and even if you can pass it off as just a light anime, incest is incest and like ppl who get violent after watching an action flick....whats stopping the pervs from startin to hit up their family members since they're the safest bet.....my 2cents >.<


Just a question, but are you in any way involved with those feminist bitches trying to get rid of the Japanese adult game industry?

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when you only have 5 free channels to choose from, it don't really take a scientist to think i live in a backwater country....thats why, instead of watching tv, we aussies sit out on our backyards feedings the kangaroos and wrestling the crocodiles


Dont forget the radio-active koalas and spiders with health bars.


And the snakes... oh god the snakes... 9 out of 10 of the most poisonous in the world are here, and they are EVERYWHERE.

And as I've only met 7 of the 60+ female family members I have, I can't actually comment, but I agree with Sukunai on his point of view. Having a penis is hard XD

 
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obliviouz said:
i'm aussie, and live in a land of prude television, so the best source we can get on that type of 'real' content is jerry(whether the shows are real)


There are better sources. Go to Queensland and meet the in-breeders in person.

Also, we have more than five FTA channels. And there's always Channel BT. Not to mention the plethora of streams these days if you're in to that.
 
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Asako said:
obliviouz said:
i'm aussie, and live in a land of prude television, so the best source we can get on that type of 'real' content is jerry(whether the shows are real)


There are better sources. Go to Queensland and meet the in-breeders in person.

Also, we have more than five FTA channels. And there's always Channel BT. Not to mention the plethora of streams these days if you're in to that.


You mean Tasmania right?

You better bloody mean Tasmania...

 
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Bere said:
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Ok here's the deal. If your sister walked into your bedroom dressed in a baby doll bare assed, yes your cock WILL harden mainly because cocks are not very cooperative. If she strips you and TELLS you to fuck her, chances are good it ends with you filling her with your load somehow.

Now of course if she's considerably over weight, or someone beat her to hell and gone with an ugly stick you might require additional convincing.

But if my life has taught me anything, and I've been around a lot longer than most of you, it's your sex organ doesn't give a damn what your mind has to say on anything


Funny thing, you rest assured I'd slap any of my 3 attractive sisters If that happens. Ironically, we used to get along but now being basically adults we hate each other. I know it's usually the other way around. About cousins I don't know, I don't have any around.

Sukunai said:
Now would all you sexually confused teens please stop claiming all sorts of crap and just live with being male. The girls her all know the truth.


What's the big idea about this girl thing anyway? Obviously being a guy makes it easier to have any kind of sexual relationship with your, err, desired object; the sole fact of having a penis and with heterosexual girls being majority. Of course it's hard to explain the confused teen he won't be necessarily hot in his desired girl form.


It does help if you don't actively 'hate' the person.

"What's the big idea about this girl thing anyway?"
I suggest you ask one :)

"Obviously being a guy makes it easier to have any kind of sexual relationship with your, err, desired object"
That has me wondering about your point.
We are talking about how a willing female can likely get an unstoppable reaction out of a healthy human male. Not inanimate objects.
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At least I can go see her in concert.
 
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Otakus in japan love younger sister and brother love. that is all there is too it.
 
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Akito38 said:
Otakus in japan love younger sister and brother love. that is all there is too it.


Yeah, note most of the anime fans here aren't from Japan. Also, that doesn't make it any less creepy.
 
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You mean Tasmania right?

You better bloody mean Tasmania...


No. QLD is the hick state, not TAS. QLD is our 'south' (pole reversal and all).
 
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Asako said:
chinlamp said:
You mean Tasmania right?

You better bloody mean Tasmania...


No. QLD is the hick state, not TAS. QLD is our 'south' (pole reversal and all).


nah, QLD ok since its just hillbillies still in the midst of coming out of the dark ages, whereas TAS is where the in-breeders are and i wouldn't be surprised if you here each and everyone there calls each other oniiichan and imouto...

anyways back to topic;

it looks like we have an alarming 33% so far who think doing the deed with your immediate family is an ok if the other party consents to it

hmmmm...
 
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Asako said:
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so are you telling me that you would do it with your own flesh and blood? even though theres a whole school of fish out in this great big pond of society


If I had a hot relative who was as in to the idea as I am, sure. Why not? If there's no procreation involved there's absolutely no reason not to. At least being close family spares you the need to go through the whole dating process and getting to know people and all that other crap.
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I have a friend like that
He's always together with his sister
THought That it's not weird in the beginning, but for some reasons they're look like a romantic couple after I see them many times
It make surprised when he told me that his sister "Has Kissed Him on the lip"
I'm shocked so much...Is that what you called Forbidden Love?





 
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Best as twincest. It's just an easy way to make a complicated relationship and lots of drama. Not a new fad and not exclusive to Japanese media.
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I have a friend like that
He's always together with his sister
THought That it's not weird in the beginning, but for some reasons they're look like a romantic couple after I see them many times
It make surprised when he told me that his sister "Has Kissed Him on the lip"
I'm shocked so much...Is that what you called Forbidden Love?
Forbidden? If they're perfect together, let em bone.
 
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truthfully, i think family love is nice and all but once you start trying for 2nd & 3rd base then there's something definitely wrong

my advice: get out more...its a whole ocean of fishes out there, and who knows, they might dig your fetish and start calling you oniichan from there onwards...at least they wont be blood
 
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Am I the only one who saw the title and thought this was a thread about a Fratboy Convention?
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Are you using some kind of advanced logic I don't know about? Have you decided to assign new meanings to English words? Are you just intentionally burning a straw man and knowing full well that you're changing the subject and misrepresenting a claim?
 
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Definitely not. It's weird and unacceptable.
 
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Definitely not. It's weird and unacceptable.


my point exactly...its weird after the age of 10

i guess its just hard to understand for those without siblings
 
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obliviouz said:
my point exactly...its weird after the age of 10

i guess its just hard to understand for those without siblings


I have a brother. But he's a douche. And has had a gf for many years. And he's not hot. So never been on the cards really. It has nothing to do with having siblings or not. It's a matter of general principal. There's nothing wrong with sex with whoever you want to do it with as long as both parties are consenting. The only issue with incest is potential for generic issues (which take more than one generation to show, anyhow) but if it's only for sex, not for procreation, why should it be a problem at all?
 
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but if it's only for sex, not for procreation, why should it be a problem at all?


i guess its how some ppl were brought up....i grew up in a strict religious background where even the word sex was taboo, so i guess if i was open minded i'd be in the right mind frame as you

..but even then, regardless of all that, and the other half was consenting, don't you find it weird though? i mean i remember when i first slept with a childhood friend out of drunken stupor and it took us a week to get finally talk about it....we stayed friends but we found it weird as we were basically like family since i grew up with her since like birth....so imagine if it was blood?
 
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..but even then, regardless of all that, and the other half was consenting, don't you find it weird though?


No. Not in the slightest. People are free to do whoever they want, as long as it's all involving informed consent, which is the stickler, really. A good bit of incest are cases of abuse from a young age where the other party is raised to believe it's normal, or that they have to do it or whatnot. I only believe incest is okay as long as it is a conscious choice between adults who are otherwise aware of the outside world and that they have other options. If they then still choose family, that's fine.
 
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