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| My interpretation of the ending: They established from the start that they would die in one way or another when Elen discovers her homeland. In the final scene Elen looks at the sky and tells Reiji that they don't have to travel anymore. At that time Reiji goes away from her and leaves his bag, he could of gone for about an hour because the sky was somewhat at dawn. I think they also knew that they were followed and Reiji was prepared to die at the hand of an assassin and not in front of Elen. In the end Elen shot herself in the grass (we see that empty cartridge). They died in the same period of time because their clothes were the same as in the bus scene and at the start of the final scene. I think that they choose to die this way because neither of them could kill the other and after commit suicide These are just my thoughts, I really wished that they shot themselves embraced in the mongolian grass. |
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| Elen maybe die because eat the petal of the flower. Read here http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=414869 |
desertkona said: Elen maybe die because eat the petal of the flower. Read here http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=414869 nope http://www.ehow.com/facts_5626911_geraniums-poisonous-humans_.html |
| Yeah this ending is good for me. Idk why people need happy ending for the killers |
Sorry for my bad English  Humans see what they want to see |
| Whole japan part was weird.I didn't like it at all and it ruined the show for me but it is still a good show 7/10 |
| The closer you get to the light,the greater your shadow becomes. |
| Well, this end is very vague :/ We don't really know who kills who, but I don't think that Eren kills Reiji because she haven't got any reason to kill him. But I think in this anime, everybody who use a gun die like Ein, Zwei and Drei. If Zwei dies, automatically Ein dies it's logical ^^". After some passages unlogical, this anime stills good :) |
| In the end, we see the flower that Elen had was missing a petal, and we see her lying down, not moving with a smile on her face. I think she was happy that she discovered who she was and turned around to smile at Reiji. She sees him dead, and decides " No point in living now!", takes a petal from the flower, and eats it. Flower was probably poisonous. She dies happy, knowing who she was. The end. Both die |
| Screw this, the ending was really bitter. Ugh I really liked this series, but after the half way point, the absence of Ein, the changes of Zwei, and the introduction of Drei just didn't resonate well with me. Drei was fine as a kid, but her adult self was intolerable. Basically, the second half was crap to me. I couldn't stand all the cringey sentimental talks in the second half. The soundtracks were amazing, well, mostly. I have no idea what that "orgasmic/moaning" soundtrack was for though. My biggest disappointment with this series is the animation department, not only the action scene was uninspired, the emotional / important scenes lacked all sort of impact. It was so awkward watching those scenes. The ending was not terrible, but in my opinion it was unnecessary. It did felt like the author has no way of writing a happy ending, so he/she just killed off everyone. They also could have spent more time expanding on Inferno, and the head boss, rather than spending a lot of time on some nonsense. The head boss, whose name I couldn't even remember, was a total tool. He based his entire decision on what the others told him, didn't even bother to verify the truth, nor did he do anything significant other than holding the spot of the top dog. I really thought I would end up loving this series, but it's one disappointment after another in the second half. P.S. I wish this wouldn't have ended at a point where everyone was killed. P.S.S. Why is the series censored again after showing nipples in the first episode? |
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| Oh COME ON!!!!! After slogging through all those fights they die like that?!?! By some guy from a horse drawn carriage?!?! God damn it!!! 8/10, excellent series but damn it that ending. |
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| For some odd reason, I decided to go back and watch the final minutes of the series, oh boy, it was a huge mistake, I am all depressed again. The scene after Reiji was shot, the playing of the insert music, paired along with the look on Reiji's face, those hit a perfect stride within the symphony that makes it so painful watch. It doesn't help that Elen slowly fades away in the background after that.. Gosh.. :( |
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malonur said: WolfWood37 said: Oh COME ON!!!!! After slogging through all those fights they die like that?!?! By some guy from a horse drawn carriage?!?! God damn it!!! 8/10, excellent series but damn it that ending. Only one of them is killed by the guy. You obviously didn't get the ending. Okay I was typing enraged. One was shot, the other committed suicide. It was still such a cruel end for them. |
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| At first I felt like it was utterly and completely unfair for the ending to be that way. Almost like despair.. I mean, how could he possibly get shot so suddenly like that?? He could have prevented it since they both have a keen instinct sense of things in their surroundings I thought. I wanted them to keep struggling to live in that chaotic world of theirs, to live on with more meaningful memories, to not let go of that urge. But I guess they lost their drive to live as they found something that surpassed that and they have finally accepted everything that was done until now and their death. I also agree with the analysis about the ending of the series too. When I look at it from the title of the anime why it was called Phantom, Requiem for the Phantom. I felt the title matched the ending as well. Requiem=an act or token of remembrance or any piece of music composed or performed to commemorate the dead. I thought that connected to the series ending pretty well. Plus the word Phantom, what does this word mean to you when you hear and think about it. Because to me, that word did play an important role throughout the whole series and like the word interpret for me, to fade away as if one didn't exist in the physical world, to be hollow and unknown and not exposed. Because if the title was different, I would not agree with the ending at all lol. But it was a good insight of the series. But I did not think this was a waste of time to watch for an anime. It was good, meaningful and kind of indifferent feel, but kind of realistic in it's own way too in my opinion. And I like that it made me feel in that sense. In the end, I felt their death was most acceptable and kind of disappointing, but the whole series itself I felt to be reasonable and was quite memorable to watch. I would mourn for both Reiji and Ellen (to me, from watching so many times of him saying her name compare to the translation, it sounds a lot like Ellen, my mind unconsciously substitutes it every time I hear him say her name). But anyway, they were diamonds in the rough. A good anime to watch and I would recommend. I accepted and enjoyed it from beginning to end regardless. Plus, I like Seinen and thriller genres so it worked out for me. This anime will be a part of my memorable collections. |
 Know that there is warmth, love, happiness, kindness and peace in the world. |
| What a terrible ending, just because of the last 30 seconds the show went from a 9/10 to a 8/10. they really killed off reiji just to make the ending more sad? thats so dumb lol, the entire show reiji was easily able to sense people around him but not that? ok... im just gonna pretend that didnt happen since it was obviously just added to make more of an impact and not be a "happy ending" |
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malonur said: Sywed said: What a terrible ending, just because of the last 30 seconds the show went from a 9/10 to a 8/10. they really killed off reiji just to make the ending more sad? thats so dumb lol, the entire show reiji was easily able to sense people around him but not that? ok... im just gonna pretend that didnt happen since it was obviously just added to make more of an impact and not be a "happy ending" You obviously didn't get the ending at all. It's 2deep4u. i get it... it just didnt make sense logically... |
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Dude, i write it in 2016 but.. IT'S BRILLIANT! |
| That troll tho. I honestly thought the ending was brilliant. The show always was set to have a gloomy mood. You can't just slap on a happy ending for a show that's not meant to be jolly. The way the show ending without much explanation leads us to interpret the ending ourselves. I believe it was still implied that Elen died. One could say it was from the flower(No need to go all scientific about how the petals aren't poisonous), or you could say she shot herself or was ultimately assassinated similar to Reiji(Shell casing). That's what makes the ending fantastic- The open interpretation. Rip Cal tho :( I would like to see an alternate ending still (Even after 7 years and probably no chance to get one) |
| Just watch this anime, full of regret. There's no way I can sleep tonight. |
| 4th times getting signature banned wtf |
| Ok, I didn't liked it. For me, a good example of depressing ending is Texhnolyze, not this pseudo-philosofical stuff. Actually this was one of the worst endings that I've ever saw. Those last episodes were a complete disaster. |
| Reiji dies by last gunshot from unknown assassin and Eren commits suicide by eating one of poisonous flower petal.Both Dies Thats the End...😭😭😭 |
PraetorianGuard said: I was philosophically butthurt, yes. But then again, I doubt you would be capable of understanding. You probably like the superficial things in life. shizu said: Ok, I didn't liked it. For me, a good example of depressing ending is Texhnolyze, not this pseudo-philosofical stuff. Actually this was one of the worst endings that I've ever saw. Those last episodes were a complete disaster. Lol philosophical my ass. It's just slightly subtle, and people go around exploding because they can't comprehend the concept. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| (rewatched) I'm not a fan of happy endings... so I rather like this one. Inferno, although almost nonexistent in the 3rd arc, doesn't leave loose ends. 7/10 it stays. The score is worth what it does well: suspense and excitement. The "meh" plot overall and weak 3rd arc keep it from a better score. |
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| Eh. This shows strated as solid 8 maybe even 9/10. Then it goes to 7, and barely ends with 6/10 mostly due stupid Cal. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| I'm convinced the only reason this last arc exists is to put Reiji and Elen in school outfits, as well as to somehow give Cal breasts. I liked the episodes of Phantom immediately after Elen "dies" and before Reiji and Elen flee to Mexico. It was interesting to see Reiji develop as a character, going from a rookie assassin to being Phantom, trying to keep hold of his humanity. Cal was interesting for her influence on Reiji, particularly when he started repeating Elen's words about how killing became saecond nature. Reiji living from getting shot at the pier was kind of strange, particularly due to how he was even found afterwards. I figured he would have washed up on some shore a distance away, eventually fleeing the organization by playing dead. I thought the new Phantom at the time was another man, but I was surprised to see it was Reiji matured. I wasn't too sure about including Cal's character, especially since Elen was apparently still alive, but I accepted her since she did have an interesting effect on Reiji's personality. Though, she looked like she was 10 while he seemed like he was in his 20s, so the prospect of both of them spending their lives together seemed a bit suspect. I get that Reiji was emotionally broken and really needed a crutch, and Cal was entirely dependant on Reiji since she had no one else to turn to, but I guess it just came about...a little fast I guess? Something about that progression seemed to have skipped a few steps. But, it's just weird. I assumed Reiji and Elen would be in their 20s by the last time skip, but they can pass for high school students? Hell, they managed to go from Mexico to Japan, successfully enroll in high school, and befriend the Godoh daughter within two years? Yeah, Elen got the info on Mio from Scythe, but that's still ridiculously convenient. I can sort of buy that, but I just don't get how Cal looks like she aged 10 years while Reiji and Elen seemed to have de-aged. I felt like there could have been an interesting story to wrap all this up. Reiji and Cal thought the other died in that explosion, so I figured they would go their separate ways and meet up at some point, even if it were in a fight. Perhaps in an inverse to how Reiji met Elen on the train? I dunno. There reeeaaaalllyyyy needed to be some time devoted to showing Mio waiting for Reiji to come back. The sudden jump to being driven to kill Reiji is just too sudden. Oh, and yeah, I expected that ending since there was no way an Urobuchi Gen ending was going to go without something bad happening. Though, I'm confused as to why Reiji was the only one shot. Was she not a threat to Inferno? Was she not an accomplice to a lot of actions that went against Inferno? Did she not know a lot of important information that could be used against them? For the amount of divisive opinions on the ending I've heard, I didn't expect this to be my one concern. |
| Wow what an ending Mcquire is enjoying his bath witn no care what a damn mother fucker. I would say this ending was acceptable I enjoyed it Tragedy happenes from time to time so it's only logical to accept it. 7/10 |
| This anime goes back on track after falling apart in the second half (thanks a lot Cal). That ending had me there. Elen killing Reiji and then killing herself by eating a poisonous flower was surprising. I like the ending, its suitable for the series. I want to give this an 8/10, but because of the shitty second half and that piece of filth called Cal, I’m giving this a 7/10 (it would be a 6 if it weren’t for the last episode). |
They didn't HAVE to die, it just so happens that the show is realistic. As much as they made you like the main characters they were still assassins. They killed children. The main characters were good people that were dragged by an evil organization and became BAD people. They knew that they would spend the rest of their lives bearing those sins and running away from assassins so they decided to pick a nice place and end it. Pretty sure Zwei saw his killer coming from a mile away but did nothing on purpose. |
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