Have you ever been to the deep webs? What were your experiences of it?

DesuMaiden said:

It doesn't really matter if you are visiting illegal sites with Tor because the FBI can't track your ip address if you are using Tor. If you do visit an illegal website on Tor, just make sure you don't post any identifying personal info, because Tor only hides you ip address. If you post what city you live in, the cops can still figure out who you are. Tor makes it impossible for the FBI to track your ip address, as long as you have Javascript disabled.

ElPysCongroo said:
4chan is as deep as I go on the internet, Tor is wholly different kind of beast, and I have no intention of ever using it.

ElPysCongroo said:
4chan is as deep as I go on the internet, Tor is wholly different kind of beast, and I have no intention of ever using it.

DerpHole said:


pussy

xRatatosk said:

Tor is just a browser, if you use it, you don't automatically access the Deep Web.

ElPysCongroo said:


I don't want the party van outside my house, I ain't beta enough



I know, but using Tor and then just using it as a normal browser is pointless.

xRatatosk said:


No it doesn't, they can track you no matter what if they feel like it. They only bother if you're on the real bad shit though, cuz that's where they camp.

I don't remember exactly what they do, but it's similar to what some Hackers do in order to get your info even when using Tor. Tor is not 100% safe, not even close.

DesuMaiden said:

That's not true. The FBI can't track your ip address if you are using Tor properly. As long as you have javascript disabled and you don't post personal info, there is no way they can find out that you are browsing an illegal website. It is impossible for the FBI to track your ip address with Tor. The only way you can get caught doing illegal things is if you post personal info or if you aren't using a proxy like Tor.

xRatatosk said:


They shut down Silk Road 1.0, and a child CP site, both that were being used by people that have much better knowledge of computers and the Web than you. They caught people through their Tor addresses that visited that CP Site. If you Google, "Is Tor 100% safe", "Can the FBI get you on Tor" etc. it isn't 100% safe, you're just ignorant.

DesuMaiden said:

Well the people they caught using Tor had javascript enabled. The people who had javascript disabled weren't caught. While Tor is not 100% safe, it is still much safer than using no proxy.

xRatatosk said:


Java has nothing to do with it....you do realize the owners of Silk Road aren't retarded enough to forget to disable Java right? And yeah it is safer than a regular proxy and is fun to use to bypass bans and shit.

DesuMaiden said:

Silk Road was taken down because the owner of the website used the same username on the clearnet as he did on the deep webs. As for getting busted while using Tor, you really need to have javascript enabled. The people who were identified while using Tor did have javascript enabled. Silk Road getting taken down had nothing to do with Javascript. It was because the owner used the same username on the clearnet as he did on the deep webs.

Tor can hide your ip address from the FBI. Otherwise people wouldn't be using it on illegal websites. Like I said, the people identified on Tor have javascript enabled, were posting personal info or were dumb enough to use the same handle on the clearnet as they use on illegal sites.

The FBI isn't omnipotent. They even admit they can't do shit to Tor users.

DesuMaiden said:

Silk Road was taken down because the owner of the website used the same username on the clearnet as he did on the deep webs. As for getting busted while using Tor, you really need to have javascript enabled. The people who were identified while using Tor did have javascript enabled. Silk Road getting taken down had nothing to do with Javascript. It was because the owner used the same username on the clearnet as he did on the deep webs.

Tor can hide your ip address from the FBI. Otherwise people wouldn't be using it on illegal websites. Like I said, the people identified on Tor have javascript enabled, were posting personal info or were dumb enough to use the same handle on the clearnet as they use on illegal sites.

The FBI isn't omnipotent. They even admit they can't do shit to Tor users.

IktIkn said:


nice try, FBI

Two servers in Germany - in Berlin and Nuremberg - are under surveillance by the NSA.

xRatatosk said:


You're pulling shit out of your ass, but it's fine. You can believe false info if you like. However even the Tor FAQ admits to insecurities that can easily be abused, and hackers do it. And the FBI is adapting hacker methods to track down IPs on illegal sites.

Noboru said:
two things:

@ xRatatosk: 1) Java ≠ Javascript

@ DesuMaiden: 2) disabled Javascript ≠ no more tracking possible

Haven't you heard anything about a browser fingerprint?
See for yourself how unique your browser is:
https://panopticlick.eff.org/

You would most likely have to change at least the network card, use a common resolution like 1920X1080 or 1920X1200, change the fonts, add/remove extensions and then you'd admittedly still have an unique fingerprint, but not the same one.

Also, TOR doesn't help anything if some of the main servers are under surveillance.
From my second link from here, you could have went to a report there, if you had read it, which contains the following:

http://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/aktuell/nsa230_page-1.html
And now replace "Germany" with every country you want and tell us again that using TOR with Javascript disabled is 100% anonymous.

Noboru said:
two things:

@ xRatatosk: 1) Java ≠ Javascript

@ DesuMaiden: 2) disabled Javascript ≠ no more tracking possible

Haven't you heard anything about a browser fingerprint?
See for yourself how unique your browser is:
https://panopticlick.eff.org/

You would most likely have to change at least the network card, use a common resolution like 1920X1080 or 1920X1200, change the fonts, add/remove extensions and then you'd admittedly still have an unique fingerprint, but not the same one.

Also, TOR doesn't help anything if some of the main servers are under surveillance.
From my second link from here, you could have went to a report there, if you had read it, which contains the following:

http://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/aktuell/nsa230_page-1.html
And now replace "Germany" with every country you want and tell us again that using TOR with Javascript disabled is 100% anonymous.

DesuMaiden said:
Then if you feel paranoid, then add another proxy behind Tor.

xRatatosk said:
I know Java and Javascript are diff, I'm just lazy soz.

ComicConReviews said:
Tor browsers are very unsafe because if you're using the software you are essentially an exit node for someone else your activity may be hidden but good luck trying to explain the activity on your computer is someone else's.

ComicConReviews said:
Tor browsers are very unsafe because if you're using the software you are essentially an exit node for someone else your activity may be hidden but good luck trying to explain the activity on your computer is someone else's.

Also when people are talking about the 'deep web' for god sake post screenshots, stop being vague about which sites you go on it doesn't make you 20% cooler.

xDaboi said:
too much effort to try :L

GoMarcia said:
I heard that there are a lot of scientists who publish the results of their unconventional studies, is that true?

GoMarcia said:
I heard that there are a lot of scientists who publish the results of their unconventional studies, is that true?

PerfectScore said:

Hate to point this out, but browser fingerprints don't provide that much information when it comes to precisely tracking a person down without having the targeted computer compromised.

bacchi said:
I've been on the deep web a couple of times and used to regularly visit some (non-English speaking) forums, I don't go anymore. I find it hard to find anything interesting outside of forums anyway.

Dark_Chaos said:
As much as I like being flooded with information, I'd like to know whether this "TOR" is good or bad or whatever, because I'm not reading all that.

azzuRe said:
While Tor could hide the route of your packet, it is much easier for people to sniff your packet or injecting it with trojans (careful with your downloads).