Psycho-Pass 2 Episode 4 Discussion

Orochiro said:
If Aoyanagi had the resolve to attack that old man with a shard of glass then I can't see why she didn't just shoot him with the nail gun instead when she had the chance.

And I also don't understand why the "sniper" had to shoot blindly when it was obvious that the door was opening up...

Also what is up with the stupidly high amounts of violence/gore in recent anime series?

Arcana_Vicarious said:
As for the rise in violence in anime? I dunno, maybe people think they're being 'innovative' and 'edgy' the more blood there is LOL

rihan1 said:
Sadly they got the wrong inspector this episode. Hopefully though its only a matter of time before that Shimotsuki bitch dies as well.

edit: Its also hard to believe how powerless the Inspectors are without their Dominators lol

Gymkata said:
I've yet to hear anyone propound a theory on how the old guy was taken out. Did I miss something obvious, or does Kirito have himself a modified Dominator?

BlackShock_ said:


My theory is the inspectors/enforcers outside the facility shot him after cleaning out the victims, judging from how his hand blows up before the rest of his body.

Anybody has a theory on how his crime coefficient went over 300? He seemed to be fine at 70, then 280 when slashed.

jumpingjunkie said:

With the help of Kamui the people are somehow able to suppress their hue so numbers don't rise. After the old man said to Kamui that he wanted to stay he probably just let his barrier fall, so his "real" hue was showing.

yngtadpole said:
Wow. That was utterly ridiculous. How could the enforcers and inspectors from division 3 just kill all those people simply because their hue was that high... They trust in Sibyl's crime coefficient so much but we've already seen countless times that it can't be trusted. And because it can't be trusted the whole system needs to be stopped. That was one of the questions posed by the previous season and now it seems to continue.

I would be very angry if all of Division 3's hue's don't get clouded from that slaughter. Even it was under orders, even if Sibyl wanted it, even if you utterly trusted the systems..there's gotta be some doubt evoked when they kill every single hostage there running in their damn underwear.....

Gymkata said:
I've yet to hear anyone propound a theory on how the old guy was taken out. Did I miss something obvious, or does Kirito have himself a modified Dominator?

Gymkata said:
I've yet to hear anyone propound a theory on how the old guy was taken out. Did I miss something obvious, or does Kirito have himself a modified Dominator?

Seta19 said:
Where are the fucking haters now??? LOL. This shit is absolutely INSANE

rihan1 said:
Sadly they got the wrong inspector this episode. Hopefully though its only a matter of time before that Shimotsuki bitch dies as well.

edit: Its also hard to believe how powerless the Inspectors are without their Dominators lol

skudoops said:
This episode was terrible.. something like 12 young people get overpowered by an unarmed old man and allow themselves to get pummeled one by one because .. I dunno? For the lulz?

Then the inspector drops the nail gun and picks up the dominator.. I can understand this from a legal standpoint, but not a practical one.. why the hell didn't she just shoot him with the nail gun. Did she forget that the dominator did not work the first time?

Also the scene where they all instantly saw when her dominated was activated.. I mean.. what happened with that when it was activated on the mia detective in episode 3? Why didn't the sniper rifle identify Aoyanagi as an inspector like dominators normally do?.. I dunno about you guys but there's a lot of inconsistency that's bothering me in this season.

Kreion said:


Sup, I'm still not feeling this season of Psycho-pass.

First of we have Kamui whose been pretty eh thus far. He's raised interesting questions but hi himself doesn't seem to be that interesting and compared to the amount of time we had with Makishima we haven't really seen him thus far - still it is only episode 4.

Secondly I'm not really sure why every inspector who gets beaten the shit out of/killed is a woman...that's a bit weird to me - diversity among all levels please?

Thirdly none of the mini-villains this season have been interesting. In the first season we had the hunting guy, the artist's daughter as vaguely interesting characters. Now we have some random assortment of drugged up(?) people and this time we got some old guy with a fetish for stripping and beating people FOR NO REASON.

It feels like last season we had intelligent crazies with a purpose, now we just have crazies who use Kamui as a justification.

I mean i will admit that this episode had an interesting point to make, but I thought that it was a bit ham fisted in making it. Which has been the overall feeling of the season thus far, a show which has the right idea, but without the writing talent to make it any other way but bluntly.

Still I'll keep watching...I also feel like Aoyanagi didn't have to die there - she was one of the few interesting character's we've got this season after all. But it depends what they make of her death.

One final point - the new inspector could have been written a bit better too, her lines make her feel less like someone who's sticking to the rules, and more someone who's spiteful of Akane and uses the rules as justification of that. :/

Xynic said:
What's wrong with those hostages? why are they afraid of an old guy with a baton? again, like the background characters in season one, very unrealistic. It's like the writers have never heard of the fight or flight response.

AlliedG said:


In season 1 bystanders just walked by as a woman was randomly beaten in the middle of a busy street.

It's implied these drugs which control your hue affect mental processes, so it could that the vast majority of the population is in an almost sedated like state.

Also this show hasn't shown people having fun (for fear of clouding their hue i suppose).

Xynic said:
What's wrong with those hostages? why are they afraid of an old guy with a baton? again, like the background characters in season one, very unrealistic. It's like the writers have never heard of the fight or flight response. And that woman who got hit in the head, is it really that hard to block a baton with your hands? you just let him hit you in the head? no defensive relexes? really? But my biggest problem with this season so far is that ITS A COPY OF THE FIRST SEASON. Only with new antagonist, new motives and new crimes but the overall structure (so far) is the same as the first season. Just plain lack of new ideas.

witchhuntress said:


This is plain "trying to reason out by thinking of how PP society works and not how OUR real society works."

Reasons why people in the hostage scene could not act like real people:

1. They are in the mental care facility for one reason: help clear their hue. They were probably just buying meds, and they were assaulted by this old man. Their hues are probably elevated beforehand—though not as high as to be judged for Eliminator. They may be unstable mentally then.

2. They don't have "fight or flight" response because they are not exposed to numerous situations wherein this "instinctual" mechanism can be repeatedly tested. Sybil usually eliminates people with POTENTIAL to be criminals, even if you've already did something "bad" or just a victim yourself. Basic survival skills are lacking because there is hardly a situation where they need these skills, because of Sybil protecting them before it can happen—as you can see by people being evacuated when Area Stress levels begin to rise.

3. Was it realistic? Their submissiveness? I mentioned the Stanford Prison Experiment by Zimbardo before—a real life social experiment that happened and is parallel to what happened to the hostages here. (You can google it.) They are already vulnerable people; this just made them more so.

4. Sybil's judgment is absolute. Using other methods/judgment is not advisable. These people are utterly not trained self-defense because of Sybil.

Those are the "ways around loopholes/stupid plot points" I can think of that some people also pointed out. I'm not saying these reasons are correct, but examining PP world not in what we think is supposed to be in real life may not be seeing the PP world in the PP people's perspective.