| Man, that reaction Rudy had when Roxy didn't recognize how much he'd grown was silly, but at the same time he should have realized that he has changed physically so much in the years since they last saw each other. The fifth level of the labyrinth ends at a room with three teleportation circles, but Rudeus realizes the room looks familiar, and with Geese's help he locates a hidden staircase leading to a fourth circle. From here on, the team is entering uncharted territory, as the book does not cover anything beyond this point. Paul telling Rudeus about carrying two swords now when he used to be fine with only one could be interpreted another way as well, like say, having two wives, perhaps. Maybe Paul has caught wind of Roxy becoming smitten for his son. |
| Failure is always an option. |
| That was great. Best episode of the season. Some really funny stuff too; Rudy's reaction to Roxy not recognizing him, Paul's little lecture about two swords, Rudy pacing around in front of Roxy and thinking that he could put her in his lap. (When I first read that I thought it said laptop. lol) Roxy's being all shy around Rudy and asking him to go into a labyrinth with her was super cute. |
| Cursive is the future. - Nate Bargatze |
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Damn these 5 minute episodes. I guess it would only be natural for Roxy's reaction, you forget how long it's been since she last saw Rudy. Her acting like shy, nervous schoolgirl was kind of weird though, I'm so used to her rebuffing the advances of the kids she was teaching. Paul with the great fatherly advice only a scumbag like him could give, as usual.
MenchiK1 said: Her acting like shy, nervous schoolgirl was kind of weird though, I'm so used to her rebuffing the advances of the kids she was teaching. Don't forget what she told Elinalise her ideal romantic moment would be though...she just had it. |
| Episode 22 Into the unknown they go as the party advances to the 6th stratum, and there awaits the dungeon boss, a hydra dragon, an Zenith is imprisoned in a block of ice. Paul charges straight in and after seeing just how powerful that beast is, the party retreats. Paul really lost his composure there and nearly got everybody killed with his reckless actions. After calming down, the party talks things over and comes up with a new plan of attack as Roxy has a plan to deal with the crystal whereas Rudy comes up with slice and burn strategy refering to what Hercules did. So it's back to the boss room where Rudy's plan is put into action, and for the most part it works as they defeat the hydra. But it comes at a great cost as Paul is killed saving Rudy, while Rudy loses his left hand. Four days later, Zenith awakens, but she has lost her memories. That was quite a heavy episode there as Rudy loses his father and his hand in that excursion, but at least his mother lives even if she doesn't remember anything. |
| Down to level 6, where Zenith is encased in crystal guarded by a hydra that can deflect magic. Paul loses his cool, and the group has to retreat to come up with a new plan. Rudeus comes up with the idea of emulating the myth of Heracles and the hydra, and the strategy works. However, Rudeus loses his left hand, and Paul gets killed saving him from the last head's attack. Even worse, it seems Zenith is incoherent once she wakes up. |
| Failure is always an option. |
| That episode was 5 seconds long...tops..... I knew Paul was going to die, but it still hit hard, and did they really have to air this episode on Father's Day? |
| I assume his father would have failed without him, meaning he'd lose both parents and Roxy otherwise. Did Rudy not use his Demon Eye? Or are we saying Paul can see the future further than he can... |
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@Xuhybrid Rudy seems to have gotten myopic. Or was too close to see things in the periphery.
Adrenaline rush plus he's used to partying with 'invincible' people.
Adrenaline rush plus he's used to partying with 'invincible' people.
marklebid said: I think that only applies to Ruijerd...although even he was afraid of Orsted. Other than that, probably only Gislaine was stronger than Paul of all the people Rudy has fought along side.used to partying with 'invincible' people. |
| Well regardless of all that, a mage coming up to the frontline was always a risky strategy, and they all knew what was necessary for it to work. I don't think anyone is to blame. |
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@HOOfan_1 I don't think anyone in a party with him actually died though?
| @marklebid Technically Rudy did....when they met Orsted. Ruijerd and Eris probably would have if Orsted wanted them dead. I think Paul dying is just a testament to how dangerous a hydra is compared to most of the other stuff Rudy has faced before. As for Rudy using his Demon Eye...I imagine it has its limitations when he is fighting something with 8 heads. |
| We all know that Rudy's biggest mistake was failing to introduce mayo into this world. The best integration of a cg--or partially cg--monster with more traditionally animated characters that I can recall seeing. Well, we finally got to see just how strong Paul really was. I watched it a few times and I think Rudy was having a hard time keeping track of everything that was happening. The thing had nine heads and a lot of the necks were thrashing around all over the place at the end there. With all that movement around him it's understandable that he would have had a hard time trying to decipher what he was seeing with his eye of foresight while also paying attention to what was going on around him in real time; and he always has suffered from paralysis by analysis. He was in close enough where one of the necks almost came down on top of him. He started to react before it hit him, but Paul also pushed him out of the way. Idk if he would have got out of the way in time since he doesn't have the quick reactions Paul does. After that I think he got distracted when he saw Roxy almost get hit before Talhand stepped in to shield her. That's when the last head came after him and Paul knocked him out of the way again. I do wonder if they could have hit it with magic from farther away after there was only one head left. If he hadn't gone Roxy wouldn't have survived that's for sure. Who knows what would have happened with Paul and Zenith, but I'd guess it would have taken them at least a year to get all the way down to that room with the three teleportation circles in it. If it was just about Rudy I think he'd take a Roxy for Paul trade every day of the week, but he's gotta have some mixed feelings considering his sisters. |
| Cursive is the future. - Nate Bargatze |
| Episode 23 Rudy is hurting in so many ways as he lost his left hand, his father, and his mother's memories of him. Pretty much, Rudy is catching up her the best he can given that she doesn't remember anything as seeing his father die in front of him really hits him hard, and it reminds him of the time he ditched his parents' funeral from his previous life and how much he totally regretted it. So after everything that happened, Rudy and company head back to the teleportation circle that brings everybody back to the Northlands where Rudy confesses his love to Roxy, even though he's already married to Sylphie. Of course knowing that, Roxy can't return the confession unless Sylphie is okay with it as after all him cheating on Sylphie is just a bad look. After everything that happened last week, this was all about the dust settling as Rudy is just a mess. One more episode left to go. |
GridironOtakuJun 23, 2024 9:27 AM
| Zenith's lost her memories, and according to Elinalise there's no hope of regaining them. Rudeus is quite the emotional wreck, and Roxy does her best to cheer him up. After everyone returns through the teleportation circle, Elinalise outright tells Rudeus that it's okay for him to have more than one wife, so it looks like Rudeus is now set on marrying his magic teacher, though Roxy wants him to get Sylphie's approval first. |
| Failure is always an option. |
| I noticed that they all out in the art for the scene in the woods. |
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| This show makes use of his old life far better than any other isekai. I love how he admits he never really thought of Paul or Zenith as his parents until pretty much just now. |
| It's good to see his growth when comparing his contrasting reactions to his parents dying. I'm also glad Zenith isn't a complete vegetable, but may need to start her ABCs again. |
MenchiK1 said: And so it is officially a harem, I guess it was inevitable since this is a hikimori/NEET wish fulfillment fantasy but not sure it makes the show better. I guess we will see. He might as well go full harem though if he is going to add Roxy, bring back Eris and throw in the animal girls too. Personally, I don't think it's a harem unless there's at least three love interests. Right now, it's basically a love triangle. And if Eris does come back, she's going to have to properly explain why she left Rudeus in the first place. I mean, the way she did it was basically a Dear John letter, and he definitely has the wrong idea about her feelings at the moment. HOOfan_1 said: I love how he admits he never really thought of Paul or Zenith as his parents until pretty much just now. Well, as the saying goes, you don't know what you got until it's gone. |
| Failure is always an option. |
| Remember, this is the story that 90% of the other isekais looked at and said 'hey that looks good, we're gonna copy you and do a crappy version of your homework.' This was foreshadowed multiple times in the first season. So no one should be too surprised. Having just said that, I was kind of surprised. lol. I really shouldn't have been though. The biggest telegraph that Roxy was going to do this was just a couple episodes ago when she thought she was going to die and was thinking about all the things she hadn't been able to experience yet. That was her personal turning point where I'm sure she decided, much like Rudy did in the first episode, that she didn't want to live with having any regrets and wasn't going to pass up on opportunities that were right in front of her. We've also had plenty of signals that a lot of people in this world don't view having multiple wives, or concubines, to be in any way immoral. And it hasn't exactly been abnormal all over our world for most of human history. Whether you want to view this as a 'harem' show now or not you can't deny that it's taking this stuff seriously and it isn't just throwing it all in as an afterthought. I personally don't see this as a harem show because it's not relying on the typical harem tropes. I also don't see this as a self insert wish fulfillment show either. It shows the harsh realities of a world like this much too plainly for that. I thought they would actually get all the way back home this episode. With just one more ep, and so much that could happen, I really wonder how much they'll be able to do in that time. marklebid said: Well, if we're gonna go that far, Zenith is just a blank slate at this point. :P The people who view Rudy as just an older guy, from another world, in a younger body wouldn't be able to complain at least.Hell Lilia's on the rebound too now. |
| Cursive is the future. - Nate Bargatze |
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Remember, this is the story that 90% of the other isekais looked at and said 'hey that looks good, we're gonna copy you and do a crappy version of your homework.'
This was foreshadowed multiple times in the first season. So no one should be too surprised.
Having just said that, I was kind of surprised. lol. I really shouldn't have been though. The biggest telegraph that Roxy was going to do this was just a couple episodes ago when she thought she was going to die and was thinking about all the things she hadn't been able to experience yet. That was her personal turning point where I'm sure she decided, much like Rudy did in the first episode, that she didn't want to live with having any regrets and wasn't going to pass up on opportunities that were right in front of her.
We've also had plenty of signals that a lot of people in this world don't view having multiple wives, or concubines, to be in any way immoral. And it hasn't exactly been abnormal all over our world for most of human history.
Whether you want to view this as a 'harem' show now or not you can't deny that it's taking this stuff seriously and it isn't just throwing it all in as an afterthought. I personally don't see this as a harem show because it's not relying on the typical harem tropes. I also don't see this as a self insert wish fulfillment show either. It shows the harsh realities of a world like this much too plainly for that.
I thought they would actually get all the way back home this episode. With just one more ep, and so much that could happen, I really wonder how much they'll be able to do in that time.
This was foreshadowed multiple times in the first season. So no one should be too surprised.
Having just said that, I was kind of surprised. lol. I really shouldn't have been though. The biggest telegraph that Roxy was going to do this was just a couple episodes ago when she thought she was going to die and was thinking about all the things she hadn't been able to experience yet. That was her personal turning point where I'm sure she decided, much like Rudy did in the first episode, that she didn't want to live with having any regrets and wasn't going to pass up on opportunities that were right in front of her.
We've also had plenty of signals that a lot of people in this world don't view having multiple wives, or concubines, to be in any way immoral. And it hasn't exactly been abnormal all over our world for most of human history.
Whether you want to view this as a 'harem' show now or not you can't deny that it's taking this stuff seriously and it isn't just throwing it all in as an afterthought. I personally don't see this as a harem show because it's not relying on the typical harem tropes. I also don't see this as a self insert wish fulfillment show either. It shows the harsh realities of a world like this much too plainly for that.
I thought they would actually get all the way back home this episode. With just one more ep, and so much that could happen, I really wonder how much they'll be able to do in that time.
marklebid said:
Hell Lilia's on the rebound too now.
Well, if we're gonna go that far, Zenith is just a blank slate at this point. :P The people who view Rudy as just an older guy, from another world, in a younger body wouldn't be able to complain at least.Hell Lilia's on the rebound too now.
zkeleton said: Having just said that, I was kind of surprised. lol. I really shouldn't have been though. The biggest telegraph that Roxy was going to do this was just a couple episodes ago when she thought she was going to die and was thinking about all the things she hadn't been able to experience yet. That was her personal turning point where I'm sure she decided, much like Rudy did in the first episode, that she didn't want to live with having any regrets and wasn't going to pass up on opportunities that were right in front of her. I saw a video the other day explaining that in the Light Novel, Elinalise goads Roxy into sleeping with Rudy because she thinks that sex is the best medicine for depression in men....then Elinalise makes Rudy believe he got Roxy pregnant in order to goad him into suggesting marriage. Kind of like the situation with Paul and Lilia. |
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zkeleton said:
Having just said that, I was kind of surprised. lol. I really shouldn't have been though. The biggest telegraph that Roxy was going to do this was just a couple episodes ago when she thought she was going to die and was thinking about all the things she hadn't been able to experience yet. That was her personal turning point where I'm sure she decided, much like Rudy did in the first episode, that she didn't want to live with having any regrets and wasn't going to pass up on opportunities that were right in front of her.
Having just said that, I was kind of surprised. lol. I really shouldn't have been though. The biggest telegraph that Roxy was going to do this was just a couple episodes ago when she thought she was going to die and was thinking about all the things she hadn't been able to experience yet. That was her personal turning point where I'm sure she decided, much like Rudy did in the first episode, that she didn't want to live with having any regrets and wasn't going to pass up on opportunities that were right in front of her.
I saw a video the other day explaining that in the Light Novel, Elinalise goads Roxy into sleeping with Rudy because she thinks that sex is the best medicine for depression in men....then Elinalise makes Rudy believe he got Roxy pregnant in order to goad him into suggesting marriage. Kind of like the situation with Paul and Lilia.
| @HOOfan_1 They left some stuff out in the anime that in my perception was pretty important. Roxy, Elinalise and Gesse are hanging out drinking after all that happened and they all are worried about rudeus and if he will be able to recover from that and Gesse keeps pushing Elinalise to do something about it, but in the end she declined. Roxy watching all the conversation between the two keeps asking herself if even an "unatractive" girl like her can do something about it and remembering their time in buena vista. She does not go to his room with her mind made up. |
| A 3rd season was just announced for Mushoku Tensei ! |
| Episode 24 (Season 2 Finale) After a long time away, Rudy finally returns home, and he acts as if he has seen a ghost since he kinda did. He delivers the new about Paul's death and Zenith's amnesia, as well as having them meet the party they went on that quest with. It was quite an emotional return as after all, it comes after experiencing tragedy. After everybody else takes their leave, Rudy asks Sylphie about taking in Roxy as a second wife, and Norn gets all confrontational about it that she almost scared Roxy away. But Sylphie approaches Rxoy telling her that she's fine with it seeing that after all she kept Rudy upright during a tough time. And then it ends with the birth of Rudy's and Sylphie's daughter Lucie and Rudy visiting his father's grave to deliver the news. And then Eris makes a brief appearance seeing that she didn't appear in this season. Final Thoughts After the first season sets a strong foundation, things really take off in this season as the storytelling is better, all while the drama (like how Rudy would figure out that Fitz is Sylphie) is well-utilized, and the character development takes things to the next level seeing that Rudy started out as a wreck at the beginning, and develops into a more responsible person by the end. So pretty much, this season does everything that made the first season great, and does it even better and it helps that Rudy is much more mature this season that made it great to watch. Grade: A (9/10) |
| So Sylphie's all right with Rudeus marrying Roxy. It's actually Norn who's opposed to it. And Sylphie and Rudeus's child is a girl, who they name Lucie. I knew a third season was coming, since the studio's intent is to adapt the entire light novel series. |
Galaxy-CrisisJun 30, 2024 10:33 AM
| Failure is always an option. |
| Well that went a lot more smoothly than I was expecting. I really thought the season might end with something tragic happening or with some of the characters pissed off at Rudy. Or maybe some kind of cliffhanger with Eris suddenly appearing out of nowhere. I mean she kind of did but not like that. :P Now we know where Badi disappeared to. I had to giggle at Lucie being a combination of Sylphie and Rudy's names. Engrish! Makes me think of I Love Lucy. "Rucie! You can't be in de cho!." Oh yeah, Sylphie best girl. |
| Cursive is the future. - Nate Bargatze |
| Good series, but not perfect. I did like it and taking Rudy's left hand. You rare;y see MC getting maimed. 9/10 for me too. |
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| No, the Roxy situation still don’t set right with me, but handling it any other way probably would’ve felt out of tone. Likewise, I’ve seen plenty of criticism of the adaption from followers of the source material, but I’m anime only right now. So I’m still giving it a 10. Best of the season, will be hard to knock off as AOTY for me. And am looking forward to season 3. |
OhayotakuJun 30, 2024 10:48 AM
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| Good job not translating the after credit announcement of season 3 Crunchyroll....🙄 I thought that was a perfect ending to the season. Norn has been trained by her grandmother who is an ardent follower of the Millis religion which believes in monogamy. Yet Sylphie for about 7 years had a 2 wife family as her second home, and has learned her grandmother has slept with hundreds or thousands of men. I think I can see where she might not be too affected by it. I think in her eyes, it's better to have Roxy in the family than risk having Rudy constantly longing for her. There were several episodes this season which were easy 10/10, and a few episodes early on that were fun, but felt like filler. This was 100% the anime of the season for me, not that it really had much competition. This is a 9.5/10 for me. I think I may give it a 9 on MAL, but I wouldn't be surprised if I go back and raise it to a 10. |
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Ooof that was rough especially Norn and at Paul's grave. I assumed Sylphie would be OK with Roxy so that really wasn't a big surprise, just odd that despite the age difference Sylphie is acting like the more mature one. (Roxy's 'I may be small but I'm still an adult' didn't really resonate IMO). Also does anyone besides Lilia know about Rudy's shrine to Roxy's panties? Would have been funny if Sylphie was like "c'mon I'll show his 'shrine'". And a girl, now he has a house full of women, serves him right ;P And only in Japanese does taking the beginning of Rudy + Sylphie = Lucy o_0 (Lu/Ru[di] + Shi[lufi]= Lushi/Lucy for anyone checking the math). Would have been a nice place to end it if they had to but OK I'll take season 3 as long as the plot isn't so contrived. I had no problem with the disaster scattering/killing everyone that lead to this season but stuff like his mom being in a crystal in a labyrinth guarded by a hydra was a little too much. (why was she the only one in a crystal, how did she end up there and why would the hydra guard her? also how the hell did anyone know she was there? no one could even make it that far down to see, it took Rudy's maps of the teleportation things to get there and no one else had them since his mom ended up there, none of that made sense). Not as good as Season one but still better than 90% of isekais out there.
One last thing, also weird Rudy still has the same female seiyuu.
One last thing, also weird Rudy still has the same female seiyuu.
MenchiK1 said: also how the hell did anyone know she was there? The Loli demon lord who gave Rudy his demon eye told Roxy where to find her after Roxy paid a drinking debt for her. It was in the last episode of season 1 |
MenchiK1 said: I can't say for sure, but my guess is that the hydra was using her as a kind of mana battery. They said the hydra absorbed the mana of the spells cast at it so it must then need to use mana for something; my guess is it's regeneration ability. It probably takes the person with the highest mana that it can find and seals them in the crystal on it's back to use their mana.why was she the only one in a crystal, how did she end up there and why would the hydra guard her? |
| Cursive is the future. - Nate Bargatze |
MenchiK1 said: It's not that it wasn't working it's that there was simply too much going on around him for him to be able to sort out everything he was seeing. It's like if a baseball player had that same ability, but instead of facing one pitcher he had nine of them all throwing at the same time. Being in close with all nine hydra heads--well, eight necks and one head--thrashing about all around him it was all just a blur. In a situation like that his eye probably hurt him more than helped him. They probably all should have backed off until Paul chopped off the last head before worrying about burning it. It's not like any of them had experience fighting a hydra though.oh yeah Rudy has that ability but for some reason it wasn't working (this time) and Paul had to sacrifice himself to save him. |
| Cursive is the future. - Nate Bargatze |
| Exploring the Healing Power of Intimacy in Mushoku Tensei S2 Episode 23 from the Psyculturists channel. (he's the psych that reacts to various anime and examines them from a modern psychological perspective, in case you were wondering) With citations and everything! |
| Cursive is the future. - Nate Bargatze |
| Season 3 coming next year YEEHAW |
| When I first watched Jobless Reincarnation I would have been like "Meh' But after watching it for a second time it's really growing on me. Lookin forward to season 3. |
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