Hitorijime My Hero Episode 6 Discussion

Strawberrycake48 said:


Let me guess, the gang that are after Kousuke are gonna turn up and interrupt?
The usual romance cliches...In fact, I'd be more likely to keep watching if we actually got some sort of ero scene lmao

No way that's happening though! XD

Strawberrycake48 said:
Well, that'd be a sure fire way to make the series significantly more interesting than it is at present.

tokinokanatae said:


I think it's been plenty interesting, but I'll admit I'm not really here for sex or romance scenes, so...

Either way, I don't think skipping ten steps in their relationship would help. They're not even to the point where they can admit mutual attraction, never mind getting hot and heavy when Masahiro has a pretty good idea his former gang is looking for him when he didn't answer their summons.

Strawberrycake48 said:


I'm just not keen on their relationship or the way it's written, I guess? Initially, I thought Ken and Hasekura's relationship was bad, but Kousuke and Settie's makes that one much more tolerable in retrospect.
All the melodrama feels forced to me and it's been done so many times in so many other series (albeit better).

Half the time it doesn't even feel like they have any real chemistry or a convincing romantic connection. And if a relationship is going to pull a story, then it needs to be well-written.

For me, this one really isn't...and it doesn't have any fan-service or smut to pull the dead weight either.

I wanted to enjoy this one too. Ah, well.😔

Strawberrycake48 said:

All the melodrama feels forced to me and it's been done so many times in so many other series (albeit better).

Half the time it doesn't even feel like they have any real chemistry or a convincing romantic connection. And if a relationship is going to pull a story, then it needs to be well-written.

For me, this one really isn't...and it doesn't have any fan-service or smut to pull the dead weight either.

I wanted to enjoy this one too. Ah, well.😔

homonanoka said:
Yep, build up this episode. Still nice we got to know Settie prob, he want to keep everyone he loves safe thats was sweet of him, our Cinnamon roll. That cliffhanger ED.
How the fk we need to wait again, the pain..


I think he's doing that because Settie 've been avoiding him, even at school Settie doesnt want to talk or ignoring Kousuke and Kensuke. Thats why even if he knock first or shout through the door, I bet Settie wont answer or open it for Kousuke, he's just want to stay away as far as he can from Kousuke, to keep him safe and away from his gang(he's doing that to protect Kousuke)and he's afraid to tell his prob to Kousuke because it will make Kousuke in danger if he try to beat the gang for Settie sake(at the beginning theres other gang who want to join to attack Kousuke). As for Kousuke he know Settie is the type who like to keep his own prob and something happened that make Settie avoiding him, plus the part when Hasekura tell him to go for it what he want, thats why he's in rush and doing that lmao he's been holding back for a long time.
As for the "pins to the bed" the next part that gonna be happened is not like what you think it is...

TheAwkward-Otaku said:
Damn. This episode was terrible, in all honesty. I might be a singular thought here, but the idea of seeing Kousuke; a man in nearly his 30's going after a teenager makes me feel uncomfortable. Kousuke is pushing this unhealthy relationship on Settie. Not only was the flow of the episode confusing, the entirety of Kousuke's actions were strange. Breaking and entering, pinning him down? This could easily be sexual assault, but, hey! I've been uneasy with the relationship between the two since the beginning. I honestly expected more from a shounen-ai anime that looked promising. Might drop it if more of this pedophilia nonsense continues.

livexevil said:
lol what do you expect from this anime?if you find it uncomfortable to see teacher going after his student, then you should drop it from the start, this story it's about teacher x student romance from the beggining...you should read the description.
Honestly i dont get ppl(I've seen few ppl) who watching this and still hoping theres no romance between kousuke and settie or dont want to watch teacher x student romance, when this show is about their romance...it's like you know your watching a show with ecchi/harem tag but you still complained about it for being too ecchi, "why this have soo many fanservice??" or you hate show with gore thing but you still watch and complain about it later for being gore lol

TheAwkward-Otaku said:


I expected a shounen-ai with potential. I originally started watching Hitorijime for the romance between Hasekura and Kensuke, not for Kousuke and Settie. Honestly, the first 3 episodes looked promising (excluding all the moments between the other two), now, not as much. Most shounen-ai's follow similar tropes, the unhealthy relationship, a pedophilic relationship, etc. I was hoping this was different, therefore the reason I began to watch it.

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

I expected a shounen-ai with potential. I originally started watching Hitorijime for the romance between Hasekura and Kensuke, not for Kousuke and Settie. Honestly, the first 3 episodes looked promising (excluding all the moments between the other two), now, not as much. Most shounen-ai's follow similar tropes, the unhealthy relationship, a pedophilic relationship, etc. I was hoping this was different, therefore the reason I began to watch it.

livexevil said:
Hitorijime my hero is about Kousuke x settie, they're the main couple...Hasekura x kensuke only the side pairing in my hero. If you want to focus only hasekura x kensuke pair, just like you say you start hitorijime my hero for them, then you can read "hitorijime boyfriend" ...theres no kousettie romance/teacher x student romance.. only hasekura x kensuke there and see if you find their relationship more healthy than kousettie....
And what do you expect from show that potraying teacher x student romance?did you expect no pedo? in teacher x student romance theres will be always have the age gap thing, so ofc they're not in the same age(at least settie design is more mature, they're not try to draw him like a fking shota/10yo-12yo). If the next ep you still find it uncomfortable, then this is not for you. Because from the next ep the romance between those two will be start to bloom.

tokinokanatae said:


Just so I understand clearly, your defense for watching SIX episodes of something you think is "pedophilic" in nature is because you are watching the show for the relationship that involves a minor sexually assaulting another minor?

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

Please understand that I had no prior knowledge of Hitojime my Hero before the anime released. Despite the hinting of the first episode, I continued to watch it for the other couple, which I'm aware of what happened in the second episode, in regards to the manga. I simply found those two (Hasekura/Kensuke) to be more fitting for a relationship than the pedophilia; which I see is constantly getting praise although it's wrong. Settie is portrayed maturely, but that in no way changes the fact that he is a minor, and Kousuke is a fully-grown adult in his 30's. My idealogy isnt going to change, and like I've said before, this is a common trope that is followed in multiple animes. As you said, I might drop it. This was something I thought would appeal to me, but I'll see for myself.

livexevil said:
well, I found hasekura x kensuke more cringey despite they're the same age because of the rapey things..hasekura actually raped/forced himself on kensuke so many times in the manga even after they're dating its still have the rapey vibe because of hasekura personality..and I prefer the kousettie romance(despite the age gap and they're teacher & student) but kousuke never "raped" settie like hasekura does to kensuke. Even they're minor but 15yo/16yo already legal in japan tho, they can married. If you dont like romance with age gap you should drop it from ep 4, they're already hint it from the start and Kousuke is 27/28yo not 30.
You say already read the manga, and your bothered with the pedophilia but not bothered by the rape between minor......okay.


For fk sake if ppl hate/uncomfortable with the teacher x student things just drop it, it wont change their relationship even if you try to watch a few more episode and hoping theres no romance between those two, this show is always be about their romance. Expecting/hoping no romance in shounen ai show....like wat

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

I actually do condemn this type of behavior with them, and I do understand it's strange, but to note, you said it was cringey for the relationship of Hasekura/Kensuke, noting that they were still minors, yet you say they're legal in Japan? I'm aware that shounen-ai has romance, I'm a fan of shounen-ai; but when it's done right. Here, not so much. I condemn pedophilia and rape, and I'm not saying it's okay for what Hasekura did, but yet; they're the same age. Did Kousuke not force himself to do things that Settie might not be fine with? Such as kissing, and breaking in entering his home? That's ludicrous. I don't expect anything to change with my ideology, but you, forcing others such as myself to accept it and move on is ridiculous. Almost saying I can't give my own opinion, and having to submit to the populous idea. In my opinion, on another note, Hasekura gives off more of a dominent and posessive vibe, more than anything else. But that's just me. (Also it's you're, not your. c;)

livexevil said:
"but yet" is like you still saying rape is okay and tolareable as long they're the same age....when kousuke kissing settie did it forcefull like hasekura does?(even kensuke bited him and force him away but settie not doing anything) and for breaking his house did you even try to know their situation?why he do that? It's not like he doing that to pinned him to bed and sexually attack him lol.
Ah with hasekura forced himself kissing kensuke 3x times, jerk him off, suck him off, try to do sex even when kensuke says "NO" all the time, thats okay for you and you thought with that kind of action is give hasekura a dominant and posesive vibe?? So thats okay?

And I'm not forcing you to accept it, just like you im stated my opinion about it too, only saying if you hate this kind of relationship why must torture urself to continue to watch it, if you bothered just drop it. It's already clear where this relationship will be headed to.

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

Once again, I said I condemned the behavior that Hasekura was taking. Rape in any way isn't okay, and I'm aware of that. Despite, it seems as if you're okay with this pedophilia, hm? Both rape, and pedophilia, I condemn. And with Hasekura's possessive characteristic, I've seen with multiple characters done correctly. Also, the only reason I got that vibe was from his jealousy towards the relationship of Kesuke/Settie, not for any of the other things he's previously done.

livexevil said:
so you asking my opinion right? im okay with the age gap as long its not bellow the age consent(13) and 15/16yo at japan is already legal so why tf not? It's not western, they're in japan. They're legal and past the age of consent so it's not pedo to me. I'm not okay with rape or incest things.

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

Well, to answer your question; yes it is pedophilia, in fact. Settie despite being characterized as a mature teenager, is still a minor. Kousuke is a fully-grown male in his 30's. Therefore, it is pedophilia. And from what it seems, not only you, both others are praising this for whatever reason. Secondly, I'm aware of what happened in the manga, as I read what happened for myself. Although, I do prefer a same-aged relationship in comparison of a relationship with quite an age gap. What happened in the manga was not portrayed in the anime, and seemingly, what DID happen in the anime, was definitely not as bad as the pedophilia that's being pushed here.

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

God, just because it's legal in Japan, you're okay with it? There's a 13 year age difference. In my opinion, that's just terrible.

tokinokanatae said:


Do you always feel it necessary to watch more than TWO HOURS of pedophilia before you get upset about it?

If I found out something I was watching met my definition of pedophilia (aka, the medical definition) I would turn it off the second I understood what it was, not continue watching it.

livexevil said:
God, just because it's not fit in western culture your not okay with it? As asian I don't find it bothering at all, whats the matter with only 12 yo age gap different?? as long they're in past of age consent why not?? They can choose what they want, if the law says their age are legal then its already legal you can't change it unless you move on other country, and he choose his own life to dating older man, the point is he's in legal age to do what he want, past of age consent so not pedo, they both love each other, so what's the prob?
When I've goes to japan 3 years ago to study, and I've friends there that her parent have 9yo age gap difference between her mom and dad. Her mom pregnant her at 16 when his dad is 25, they got married after that and life like a normal person as one happy family. Theres nothing wrong with them. Why tf you make age gap sound like terrible things. When in real life its not becoming a problem if they love each other.

TheAwkward-Otaku said:


Ooh, my apologies for being raised in a Western country where the age of consent is at 18, and I find it uncomfortable to see a teacher and a student in a relationship. Well, sorry, but I won't change my opinion regarding the pedophilia.
I must give credit where it's due, though. You've been a rather reasonable person to debate with.

livexevil said:
well, mindset vs mindset won't ever finished. If its in japan(age of consent is 13) its not pedo, even in my country china they're past age of consent(14), so not pedo. So idk why you force ur own country age of consent when watching this. But its ur opinion, I wont bother with it again. Yeah you too and sorry if one of my post sound a bit rude.

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

I'm not trying to push my own customs on this, I simply find it strange. But, we're different, so I understand. My apologies as well.

Adellaeda said:


I'm in Germany. Age of consent here is 14 (in case you were thinking that only Asian countries have lower ages of consent). People, please learn that USA is not the only country on this planet. We find strange that you allow drinking at 21, but allow driving at 16. Sorry, but driving requires much more responsibility than drinking a beer (which is sold in Germany next to Coca Cola btw). But we don't start heated debates saying how wrong and sick this is. Chill out and learn to respect the differences between the cultures. "Your way" is not the only "right way". You say you're not trying to push your own customs on this, but this is exactly what you're doing, by calling this "pedo". You throw a generalized insult towards a lot of normal and healthy relationships, just because it doesn't conform to YOUR standards. Please be more mindful about the people around you.

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

I'm aware of different countries and their customs, but as you can have your own individual opinions, I can have my own. I too believe it's a bit odd to learn how to drive at 15, given lots of teenagers are quite immature. Also, I never started a heated debate, only the people, given yourself, are starting arguments. I simply posted my opinion, as anyone else is. But given I have the minority idea, I get attacked. Lol. If I'm not comfortable with it, whatever. Don't pay attention to me and go on with life. And it isn't my standards, anyways, and if you would've read my last response, you would've seen that I understood our differences and I apologized for any rude statements. But, hey, that doesn't matter to you, right? :)

Adellaeda said:


So... basically I just read an entire page of someone shitting on a lot of relationships, including in my family (8 years age-gap and 15 years age-gap and reversed age-gap, where the wife is older than the husband), and I can't post an opinion about it? And you don't call that heated? "Kousuke is pushing this unhealthy relationship on Settie // the unhealthy relationship, a pedophilic relationship // I simply found those two (Hasekura/Kensuke) to be more fitting for a relationship than the pedophilia // Settie is portrayed maturely, but that in no way changes the fact that he is a minor // I condemn pedophilia and rape, and I'm not saying it's okay for what Hasekura did, but yet; they're the same age // God, just because it's legal in Japan, you're okay with it? // I won't change my opinion regarding the pedophilia." Your very condemning words, not mine. All of that was insulting. And I just wanted to point that out. If you post something on a forum, you can expect someone to comment on it even a year or five after that. And what I wrote, as my first post in this, it's not even just opinion. It's facts. Fact: USA is not the only country on this planet. Fact: different countries have different ages of consent. Fact: In a lot of places, age of consent is even lower than what we see in this anime. It's not opinion. It's facts.

Apologies accepted, for writing rude statements in every single post on this forum. Better?

What actually boggles me in this discussion, is that more people focus on the age gap, and the fact that Settie is a minor in a different country than his own, than on the fact that Kousuke is a teacher. That could mean influence. That could mean abuse of power. Though I'm pretty sure this is not the case here, as they've been shown to be friends before he became a teacher. I really hope we get more backstory.

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

Well, I was actually not shitting on lots of relationships, I was focusing on this one in particular. I have no issues with those types of relationships in reality, given it isn't my problem. There's a 10-year age-gap in my family, but that's probably irrelevant, anyways. In my opinion, most age gap relationships in anime (specifically with yaoi/shounen-ai) are portrayed in a way I don't find comfortable; take Super Lovers as an example. Anyways, it's not my issue if people take offense to my opinions when I just said there are age-gaps in my family too. God, people are so sensitive, I never directed anything towards reality, simply towards those two and some others in anime. But, hey, it's the internet, everyone gets offended by everything.

Adellaeda said:


It wouldn't have been insulting if you kept it inside the anime world. But "God, just because it's legal in Japan, you're okay with it?" and "Ooh, my apologies for being raised in a Western country", which sounds at least sarcastic, if not downright mocking, took it outside of it. Especially when you continue with "Well, sorry, but I won't change my opinion regarding the pedophilia.", when it's not pedophilia, even in the country the anime is taking place in. THIS is what me and others had an issue with. YOU took it out of the context of the anime, and compared it with YOUR mighty country-sama, that doesn't even have anything to do with this anime, calling everything else wrong and pedophilic, without a second thought.

MendoxeD said:
@TheAwkward-Otaku Bait?
Look, we get it. Internet is a wonderful place where you can express your opinions,but please educate yourself before speaking about some issues. First of all, from what I see, you don't know what pedophilia actually is and confuse it to age of consent/being minor.
Okay, we get it. You don't like the show, you hate it, but what is the point of arguing on over it? At least learn to express your opinion and criticize something based on valid facts, not just attacking anyone who points out the flaws in your arguments.

On topic: Did he really have to fucking break the window to get into his house?? That was totally retarded. He'd better pay for that window!

TheAwkward-Otaku said:

The only reason why I stated those two quotes was because the reason why I was uncomfortable with it. I was raised in a Western country where the age of consent is 18. I didn't take it out of context anyway, I never mentioned other countries from the start, only when she mentioned Japan. My apologies, but like I said before, I don't plan on changing my position on my opinion. I'm not going to change my ideology to make a couple people happy, sorry, that's not how I work. Also, don't make it seem as if I'm engrossing myself with my country, because I''m not. I'm only half-American, lol. What is "everything else" on your terms? As far as I'm concerned, I only called relationships that I found unsettling in anime (in this case, Hitorijime my Hero) pedophilia. Nothing more, nothing less. Well, I dunno how much more you're planning on stretching out this nonsensical argument. As I said before, everyone gets offended by everything on the internet.

MendoxeD said:
@TheAwkward-Otaku Bait?
Look, we get it. Internet is a wonderful place where you can express your opinions,but please educate yourself before speaking about some issues. First of all, from what I see, you don't know what pedophilia actually is and confuse it to age of consent/being minor.
Okay, we get it. You don't like the show, you hate it, but what is the point of arguing on over it? At least learn to express your opinion and criticize something based on valid facts, not just attacking anyone who points out the flaws in your arguments.

Adellaeda said:


"Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children." Source: wikipedia. Do you also need a definition of what "prepubescent children" means?
That is all.



She won't admit that she's wrong and has been spouting bullshit for an entire page, even if you hit her in the head with a dictionary.

ari-e-s said:
Damn. This episode was terrible, in all honesty. I might be a singular thought here, but the idea of seeing Kousuke; a man in nearly his 30's going after a teenager makes me feel uncomfortable. Kousuke is pushing this unhealthy relationship on Settie. Not only was the flow of the episode confusing, the entirety of Kousuke's actions were strange. Breaking and entering, pinning him down? This could easily be sexual assault, but, hey! I've been uneasy with the relationship between the two since the beginning. I honestly expected more from a shounen-ai anime that looked promising. Might drop it if more of this pedophilia nonsense continues.