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evyyy said: Lucoa is a pedophile confirmed Lol the kid is named shouta. I really don't approve of shouta but in this case it's actually funny. I wouldn't have expected kyoto animation to go that far but I guess they will follow the manga exactly. |
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DatRandomDude said: better make that rating a 10/10 cuz why not? It shits on every other slice of life lol. It is actually funny and cute where as all the other slice of life anime tries too hard to be so. This anime doesn't have to try so hard because it is in fact what it is: funny, cute, artistic, well thought out for a slice of life.DAMN YOU SHOUTA After this episode, i just cant, i have to up my rating to an 8/10 now, its just so good. Anyway, the water dragon girl hasnt appeared yet. Really curious about her, when are we going to see her ? Let us name a few slice of life that try hard to be good (funny and cute). Tamako market K-on Lucky star These all suck. in comparison. Also Demi-chan is airing this season but it isn't as good. The opening and ending for maid dragon is stellar. |
Yuki_NonakaFeb 16, 2017 7:41 PM
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SeasonADay said: evyyy said: Lucoa is a pedophile confirmed Lol the kid is named shouta. I really don't approve of shouta but in this case it's actually funny. I wouldn't have expected kyoto animation to go that far but I guess they will follow the manga exactly. Oh no, I really meant that Lucoa is a pedo xD |
SeasonADay said: Let us name a few slice of life that try hard to be good (funny and cute). Tamako market K-on Lucky star These all suck. in comparison. They're all good in their own different ways. That's the message of Maidragon and I think it would be good to internalize it. evyyy said: Lucoa is a pedophile confirmed Lucoa is not ageist confirmed. |
ActarFeb 16, 2017 10:01 PM
Hidorai said: Newprimus said: Might it surprise you to learn that girls sometimes as young as nine can start masturbating? Children can become sexually curious and try to explore their sexuality on their own. Parents usually put a brake on that, but in this case Kobayashi wasn't in the mood to notice, and Tooru probably didn't care since I don't know, probably dragons have different standards for those things. It doesn't matter if the scenario where two prepubescent girls are trying to have sex is relatively possible or not. The problem here lies in fact that it's morally wrong to fuck children, alright? And in order to avoid childrenfucking we have to avoid turning children into an object that can be fucked. And the exact oposite happens in this episode. And her saying "licking" doesn't make it any fucking better, mate. All the trope pedo excuses in the world won't be enough to save this scene Face, meet plam. Palm, meet face. I'm sure you'd agree that it's "morally" wrong to kill humans right? Therefore, by your logic, we should avoid turning humans into mere targets for execution in violent video games! Civilian X was going to retire tomorrow, damn it! The objectification... The horror! But seriously, morals are subjective. Saying something is morally wrong or right and expecting others to agree just because is fallacious. Get off your moral high horse and drop the holier-than-thou attitude. No one is going to turn into a pedophile by watching anime or turn into a violent criminal after playing GTA. Just because you depict something as killable or fuckable, doesn't mean that people should do it. There are laws in place for a reason. Fortunately, the people on this planet are pretty well adapt at differentiating fiction from reality, unlike you. Though, I still disagree with you on the very premise that the children were depicted as fuckable in this sense. It's like when females show sexual agency or assertiveness, they're automatically advertising themselves as sluts. Jeez. |
DracomFeb 16, 2017 11:19 PM
| I love this series!!! Kanna and Saikawa are just so cute!!!! Except for that one par... I'm not sure how I should feel about that yet |
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eyesalad said: Then we have a segment about an adult woman making sexual advances at a young boy (who clearly isn't fond of it top that off) which also doesn't seem like a funny thing on it's own, didn't stop the creator from trying to make it a running gag though. Man, I thought it was supposed to be a feels-good show... But I don't really know how to feel about this episode. So... you say "sexual advances". Other than Lucoa offering her body as a last resort to remain relevant, where else has she made "sexual advances" on Shouta? Is it Lucoa's fault that she's well-endowed and that Shouta feels embarrassed or uncomfortable around her? Ironically, we're the ones sexualizing Lucoa and making her feel unwelcome because she "happens to have" big boobs. The show is making fun of people like you who feel awkward just in the presence of big boobs and assigning them sexual meaning regardless of context. Grow up. |
DracomFeb 17, 2017 12:00 AM
SeasonADay said: DatRandomDude said: better make that rating a 10/10 cuz why not? It shits on every other slice of life lol. It is actually funny and cute where as all the other slice of life anime tries too hard to be so. This anime doesn't have to try so hard because it is in fact what it is: funny, cute, artistic, well thought out for a slice of life.DAMN YOU SHOUTA After this episode, i just cant, i have to up my rating to an 8/10 now, its just so good. Anyway, the water dragon girl hasnt appeared yet. Really curious about her, when are we going to see her ? Let us name a few slice of life that try hard to be good (funny and cute). Tamako market K-on Lucky star These all suck. in comparison. Also Demi-chan is airing this season but it isn't as good. The opening and ending for maid dragon is stellar. I'd say Maid Dragon is a lot more "funny" than "cute". Like Acchi Kocchi. But K-ON is more on the "cute" side. Haven't seen Tamako Market, but it seems to be on the "cute" side too. Lucky Star is about meta humor, so it always depends on the viewer, and I think all of us non-Japanese fans miss out a lot. Demi-chan works in a totally different way, and goes for maximum heartwarming. In the end, it's all about your preferences. Dracom said: eyesalad said: Then we have a segment about an adult woman making sexual advances at a young boy (who clearly isn't fond of it top that off) which also doesn't seem like a funny thing on it's own, didn't stop the creator from trying to make it a running gag though. Man, I thought it was supposed to be a feels-good show... But I don't really know how to feel about this episode. So... you say "sexual advances". Other than Lucoa offering her body as a last resort to remain relevant, where else has she made "sexual advances" on Shouta? Is it Lucoa's fault that she's well-endowed and that Shouta feels embarrassed or uncomfortable around her? Ironically, we're the ones sexualizing Lucoa and making her feel unwelcome because she "happens to have" big boobs. The show is making fun of people like you who feel awkward just in the presence of big boobs and assigning them sexual meaning regardless of context. Grow up. That's a nice speech, but I would like to notice that Lucoa's outfits are quite provocative. Way more than any other female in the series, and most anime females in near-modern settings in general. With fashion sense like that and her attitude, she doesn't need big breasts to be considered sexy. |
What a lewd episode, they covered so many fetishes |
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flannan said: She could definitely stand to put some clothes on, but people are still blowing her interactions with Shouta of proportion. If she were slimmer, you'd probably have more people noticing she's too much of an airhead to realize why she makes him uncomfortable.That's a nice speech, but I would like to notice that Lucoa's outfits are quite provocative. Way more than any other female in the series, and most anime females in near-modern settings in general. With fashion sense like that and her attitude, she doesn't need big breasts to be considered sexy. |
eyesalad said: Dracom said: So... you say "sexual advances". Other than Lucoa offering her body as a last resort to remain relevant, where else has she made "sexual advances" on Shouta? Is it Lucoa's fault that she's well-endowed and that Shouta feels embarrassed or uncomfortable around her? Ironically, we're the ones sexualizing Lucoa and making her feel unwelcome because she "happens to have" big boobs. The show is making fun of people like you who feel awkward just in the presence of big boobs and assigning them sexual meaning regardless of context. Grow up. Yup, "I'll give you my body" doesn't have any sexual connotation whatsoever, even when she's shoving his boobs into his face, with the tone of voice she's using and blushing. Nope. Nothing sexual there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8 |
DracomFeb 17, 2017 4:39 AM
Wooh! Ad hominem attacks! I can do that too! Can't have a sound argument with someone who is as sensitive, emotionally charged and outraged as yourself. But in all seriousness, you didn't even bother to read my original comment properly. For your convenience, let me reiterate. As I mentioned already, her offering her body was a last resort and guess what? It fails. If it were really advocating pedo, he'd be sucking on her tits like any other sane person. Honestly, I would have thought that Shouta denying Lucoa's sexuality would be a good thing in your guys' books. Like a commentary on how sex isn't the solution or something. But then again, I don't give a toss either way, being a pedo and all. ;^) |
DracomFeb 17, 2017 4:50 AM
| ravioli ravioli pls dont lewd the dragon loli :( |
| people getting triggered over lucky bastard shota get to fuck hot busty dragon milf lol |
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| Worst episode so far.Not even grinned once.Too much loli pandering , unfunny jokes.Fafnir is the only redeeming factor. 2/5 |
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MaahHeim said: This anime just have such an amazing vibe. Also, happy valentine's day! Couples everywhereeeeeee~ "I wish we could be more like Tohru and Kobayashi" "I'd marry you" "You're a hit" I can't even. This is really cute. Also, also, did anyone get wanna Kanna said? I thought about セックス (sex), but I think it had four syllables... Hnmnmnm okay, checking the manga I really think it was something sexual. ANYWAY WAHTEVER its obvious I juist ughufjosidk OH god my haert What she said? WHAT SHE SAID?! |
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| Kanna and Saikawa are officially the first loli couple I ever met. xD The relationship between Fafnir and Takyia is growing stronger. Fafnir's obsession for games as well. Still waiting for Elma's debut. |
BlancchetFeb 17, 2017 9:19 AM
eyesalad said: Dracom said: Wooh! Ad hominem attacks! I can do that too! Can't have a sound argument with someone who is as sensitive, emotionally charged and outraged as yourself. But in all seriousness, you didn't even bother to read my original comment properly. For your convenience, let me reiterate. As I mentioned already, her offering her body was a last resort and guess what? It fails. If it were really advocating pedo, he'd be sucking on her tits like any other sane person. Honestly, I would have thought that Shouta denying Lucoa's sexuality would be a good thing in your guys' books. Like a commentary on how sex isn't the solution or something. >replies with a movie clip >calls me out for ad hominem attacks. The problem I have with this is that nobody takes any issue with what Lucoa is doing, especially Kobayashi, who has been living in the human world her entire life and should know that shoving your tits in a 10 year old's face is wrong. Dragons are being a bad influence on her. Her tsukkomi power is waning. Or maybe that's her fetish. |
Somuchgamer said: MaahHeim said: This anime just have such an amazing vibe. Also, happy valentine's day! Couples everywhereeeeeee~ "I wish we could be more like Tohru and Kobayashi" "I'd marry you" "You're a hit" I can't even. This is really cute. Also, also, did anyone get wanna Kanna said? I thought about セックス (sex), but I think it had four syllables... Hnmnmnm okay, checking the manga I really think it was something sexual. ANYWAY WAHTEVER its obvious I juist ughufjosidk OH god my haert What she said? WHAT SHE SAID?! なめあいっこ (nameaikko) -> Lick (each other). It's a reference to a mention of mutual dragon-licking in a previous episode. More of a sign of closeness and trust than anything sexual. |
| I like Lucoa and Shouta's bond lmao Fafnir is facing his own little problems on that chat, Fafu-kun tho Yes, this loli got taste. I like rain too |
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| Great episode, very endearing last half. |
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| another amazing ep Kanna x Riko is the best they could make a spin off series about these 2 and the times they spend together and it would be something amazing god just love it but also love how everything is moving nicely for the others aswell, but i do have to say i wonder when the other dragon will finally show as from the looks of next ep she's not gonna appear next ep either but hopefully its soon again great ep and love them Kanna x Riko moments <3 |
| "one step at a time" |
| I enjoyed this episode a lot. Not as funny as last ep, but definitely way cuter~ As expected some griping about deviant stuff, but whatever, no harm done, all in good fun. Riko is always amusing... she's addicted to the cuteness. |
GenesisAriaFeb 17, 2017 3:38 PM
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: @Hidorai about paragraphs Stop wasting your energy trying to justify a false premise. Pretty much everything you said in those paragraphs is nothing more than self-righteous gratification. People will always rant their faces off, but at the end of the day, you're bitching about fictitious representations. If you want to talk dehumanization, try complaining about business, desensitization, censorship, propaganda... Not this pedophilophobia crap. If you see a real pedo, then you can complain, until then don't bother. Fanservice sells, sex sells, akiba-culture is the most morally ambiguous and all-welcoming culture in the world. No matter your absurd fetishistic interests, everyone is welcomed and given a place in it. The biggest misconception people have is fiction leading to imitation - but that only occurs in those already with the predisposition. However the anomaly in akiba's case, is that generally the fiction is considered superior to reality, thus imitating it in reality would be downgrading. It gives deviants a place to direct their urges in a safe environment. Result: the world's most successful unintentional utopia project. Stop bitching and get with the program. Rather than obsessing with cynicism, try realizing how outstandingly tame and honest it all is. Shows like there handle it respectfully and seriously. Cute sells, fanservice sells, sex sells, put them together and you got loli H. No legions of pedos, no pedo promotion, just cute loli yuri, which will excite some lolicons and just make some other people die of moe. It's actually a good thing that things like this can put pressure against ignorance and emotional mongering. You deserve a cookie. In the end it's just an anime, there is no need for over thinking this. Sane person allowed walking outside should have enough brain capacity to realise difference between real and imaginary world. There are *billions* of people worldwide enjoying fiction with murder and violence and yet we don't live in anarchy. |
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Hidorai said: It's relative to reality, but it's not reality. Just like a picture of a sunset is not a real sunset. You can draw someone being murdered, but nobody was murdered, because it's a drawing. 99% of humans have the sense to realize that many of their bizarre interests can't be realized in reality (because of moral or ethical reasons, or them being physically impossible), so they imagine it instead. Enjoying things they like makes people happy. It's as simple as that.@GenesisAria ye cool exagerations mate but can you first explain your view on fiction/reality relation? It's hard to see how fiction is anything but an imaginative rearangement of different concept we get from reality. You're very good educator I'm ready to listen please you have an audience If someone enjoys sexualized caricatures of vaguely child-resembling characters, then so be it. They're not harming anyone, and you have no right to criticize harmless interests. PS: i've never seen an anime or manga loli that looked like an actual child. Keep in mind there are numerous adult voice actors who voluntarily audition for and want these roles knowing what to expect. As goes for any context: the world is never what it seems at first.  |
GenesisAriaFeb 17, 2017 5:49 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| It took me 6 episode to realize it's an yuri anime. |
| Glad that Fafnir finally started liking humans ;) He is having a great time with that guy. Loving this anime. |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
| the fafnir and takiya man, wow. "i don't mind. you're a hit." gave me the feels man ;___; |
| :-) <3 |
Hidorai said: Dracom said: Though, I still disagree with you on the very premise that the children were depicted as fuckable in this sense. It's like when females show sexual agency or assertiveness, they're automatically advertising themselves as sluts. Jeez Didn’t understand that soz im very foreign honestly I have no idea where are you from, and I don't even know your gender, so some of the things I'll say might seem obvious, and others insane. 1) In general, western society (and other societies too) tend to suffer from a perception bias known as "madonna-whore complex". That is, they perceive a woman as either not thinking about anything sexual ever ("madonna", after the mother of Jesus Christ), or as being infinitely sexual and willing to have sex with anybody anytime ("whore"). 2) Most real women do not fit either extreme. Even most anime women do not fit these extremes. They have different ways of dealing with their sexuality. (and this is a good thing, if you ask me) 3) In the modern world, as women are getting equal to men, it stands to reason that some of the women will make sexual advances on men. Well, if you have ever seen a harem anime, I'm sure you've seen it. This is a simple synthesis of "A human is the forger of one's own happiness" and "Women are people too". 4) But the perception bias in point 1 tends to make many people assume that point 3 means that the woman is a "whore" with no control over her sexuality. This is wrong, and can lead to all kinds of unhappiness, with rejection and rape being the most obvious. 5) Why rape? Because the rapist thinks something along the lines of: "she approached a man on her own => she's a whore => she wants to have sex with anybody anytime => she wants to have sex with me now". And then proceeds to ignore any communication of refusal from his victim. 6) Dracom said that your line of thought is subject to the same kind of bias. Just because Kanna might want to do anything sexual to Riko, does not mean it's okay for anybody else to do anything sexual to Kanna. For that matter, it does not mean it's okay to do what Kanna did - Kanna isn't meant to be a paragon of virtue, even if she isn't trying to destroy humanity at the moment. |
Hidorai said: Ehhh I was talking about more of an epistemological side of matter, I wasn't quite clear sorry. I'm not mentally challanged despite the way I might seem. Ideas =/= real, physical world, sure! I think there's a fundamental disagreement between us on how we see things though. I see mental representations of objects as bundles of atributes that don't really amount to anything above the sum of the components. Ideas of atributes come directly from experiences, and, again, when you imaginatively rearange those atributes in your mind - fiction happens (when coming up with a minotaur you combine a human and a bull, but first you need to know what those two are). Destinctions between things thus become strictly psychological. I know it's a very simple way to look at things but I don't get complicated things. Anyways, idea of a loli seems like mostly an idea of a human child even though it's obviously still pretty far from what an avarage child usually seen as. That's why it looks very bizarre that a depiction of a 100% child doing something saxual in a lighthearted way is prohibited and a 70% one is not. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the main appeal of a loli is that she's young and innocent? If that's wrong then I'll just fuck right off forever. The problem with that line of thinking is that no ideas reside in a vacuum. You have got to take into consideration the context in which the ideas are created and consumed... Which brings me to my original comment: Hidorai said: Dracom said: I'm sure you'd agree that it's "morally" wrong to kill humans right? Therefore, by your logic, we should avoid turning humans into mere targets for execution in violent video games! Civilian X was going to retire tomorrow, damn it! The objectification... The horror! . That’s dumb bad joke 0/10 This was not a joke, but a sarcastic comment that completely flew over your head. Do you honestly believe that killing people in video games is tantamount to real-life murder? |
| Fafnir and Takiya was very nice. I want to see more Kanna x Reko. |
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Hidorai said: Young has nothing to do with it. It's because they're cute and small and act in in exaggeratingly cute/pure vaguely child-resembling ways that adults don't (or is strange when adults do). Hence why 300 year old loli still counts as loli. Often jokingly called "loli-baba" because they're old even though they have the cute facade.Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the main appeal of a loli is that she's young and innocent? If that's wrong then I'll just fuck right off forever. Occasionally the taboo adds an extra +1, but isn't the reason. Dracom said: I'm a writer with a lot of deep subjects, and in my field you quickly come to realize the harsh reality that humans are unimaginative, there can be no ideas without inspiration. Every idea either wholly or fragmentally originates somewhere.The problem with that line of thinking is that no ideas reside in a vacuum. You have got to take into consideration the context in which the ideas are created and consumed... Hidorai said: I know exactly what you're trying to say. You're suggesting that showing excess sexuality in media promotes additional sexuality, and excess violence in media promotes additional violence. Sorry, but they're unrelated. In USA, sex and porn are generally very taboo, yet everyone's fucking like rats, and there's sex crime everywhere. Go to Japan, where they have semi-taboo yet pretty damn open sexual media culture, and there's actually an alarming lack of sexual activity and practically nil criminal activity.No it isn't. But it also doesn't mean that warping moral canons via popular media isn't wrong. I understood your comment well enough but it seems I failed to make my point clear enough if you actually mean what you're saying here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlipperySlopeFallacy Random example: stealing panties doesn't imply they intend to proceed to the next step and start stalking or molesting or eventually rape. Maybe the only thing on their mind was merely only the panties. From their perspective, stealing a pair of panties could be the most risqué thing they ever dare try, making anything farther beyond their imagination or too cruel to consider. Especially in Japan, there's lots of things you can think about and imagine, but never dare do, because it's just culturally inappropriate. It's a culture where even touching someone randomly is generally something you try and avoid, or stuff like that. If there's something sexually suggestive, it's supposed to be left to your imagination, not be an open invitation to proceed to the next step. Like the whole Schrödinger's Panties thing, it's just for fun and arousal entertainment between guys, it doesn't mean "oh i think she has no panties therefore i should rape because she's a slut!". Hentai play on that stuff for contextually arousing sale value, but it it's not reality. More likely, the thought is of a super sexy clumsy mistake "oh she forgot to put on panties". It's called reservation. |
GenesisAriaFeb 18, 2017 11:54 AM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| I actually felt touched by Fafnir and Takiya's relationship with each other, especially when Fafnir called Takiya a "hit" and finding such comfort in a human he usually disdains. |
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| the thoughts about Hits and Miss was good |
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Hidorai said: Dracom said: This was not a joke, but a sarcastic comment that completely flew over your head. Do you honestly believe that killing people in video games is tantamount to real-life murder? No it isn't. But it also doesn't mean that warping moral canons via popular media isn't wrong. I understood your comment well enough but it seems I failed to make my point clear enough if you actually mean what you're saying here. My reasoning wasn't enough and I'm not going to try again. You won the argument. I'm out Let me tell you about Soviet Union and its fall. Soviet Union had its dumb moments, but for a long time it seemed that it could last for a long time. Until most revolutionaries died out, and their children were left to run the place. Now, Soviet Union was never ashamed to use outright propaganda, but it also made a point of making a lot of popular media that promoted its values. If it worked, you would expect that the new generations of Soviet citizens and bureaucrats would grow up loyal to the ideology. But they were not. Hence, I am quite sure you can't really influence people all that much. You might want to read "The Master and Margarita" novel to see that all the might of Soviet propaganda machine could not change human nature all that much. |
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