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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Pretty funny episode. The animal mascot gave me a good laugh and we had Aqours having their own fun too. There's also a cafe that they participated in (I think the outfits looks great tbh) Colorful and to the point. Just a pretty fun episode in general after some of the recent drama. |
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| i didn't think i was going to get emotional towards the end very heartwarming episode |
| Everybody singing together at the end almost made me cry. I'm really looking forward to how emotional the final two episodes will get. (But I'm sure I will totally cry no matter how it ends) |
| Beautiful episode again, really heartwarming. :) It was pretty fun watching all the girls setup for the Uranahoshi closing festival. I like You was acting out the very first episode by calling out to people while standing on the box, lovely scene with You and Chika laughing together post that. <3 No one beats Dia when it comes to Love Live trivia. xDD I love how Chika just walked and completely destroyed Yoshiko in her fortune telling booth. XDD That balloon stuff was really nice too. My favorite part of the episode was the monologue that Aqours give towards the end about how we cherish things because we know they aren't gonna happen again and that's why we're always moving forward towards the future. That was really beautiful. <3 ED was wonderful. <3 |
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| Despite all its flaws, this season of Sunshine has been able to put a smile on my face like nothing else has. This episode was the epitome of that with great moments all around. The ED was beautiful. |
(Translator's Note: "nico nico nii" means "SHINY DAYS in My Pocket")  nico nico nii. |
| OMG! That ending <3 Yohane got rekt by Chika-chan LOL |
| Kitan~! |
| Very sweet episode. The school did a great job to show their love towards Aquors and their school as well. It was really touching honestly. Bittersweet towards the end when Mari began to cry but sweet when the other girls began chanting for Aquors. You and Kanan in them outfits were so adorable. The way they were running around the halls was hilarious. Hanamaru's smug face as she was talking to Yoshiko lol  And Chika lots of her in the episode. Love her eating expression as she ate charred mikans. I actually didn't know citrus could be grilled.  |
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| >too much mikan(not chika, the actual fruit) > You paying homage to the first season which is a nice thing but actually looked retarded >ChikaYou set sail(Riko got cucked) >MariKanan engaged >a game where the host is also a participant (Dia) now for the good points xD *the balloon scene. it was cg but it works well for balloons and was presented beautifully. *the message of Aqours. almost forgot this one because what happened after was much better,but anyway... it was a nice message combining the theme of the show and its plot and also how it transitions to the last scene of the episode- *the ending. just when you thought it was over, feels(or drama, whichever you prefer) hits you again. but I have to say,even with that wonderful ending of everyone singing the ED, what captivated me was Ainya's voice acting- she is by far giving the best performance out of Aqours when it comes to dramatic scenes (you could argue that that is because many dramatic scenes were given to Mari or she is connected somehow, but even so Ainya never fails to convey her emotions when it happens) overall it was a nice episode to give closure to everything that has happened and move towards the finale (PLS DON'T END IT I NEED A MOVIE) |
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| The part at the end where everyone sang actually made me laugh... Some of the background character's faces looked really weird and all of the same mouth flaps being used added to that...I mean, I wasn't really expecting them to animate a bunch of different mouths...but still... Despite this I still pretty much liked this episode... ...sort of... |
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| I'm moved here, so much emotional for one episode. xD |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| The second half of the episode was brilliant. Brimming with feels and bittersweet with reflection on the nature of time and its passage. Everything comes to an end someday. |
| Hmm, I didn't like this episode much. It was just slideshow of random would-be funny scenes with no real emotions behind it. Almost felt like kinda waste so close to the end and they didn't make their school justice. It got a little bit better towards the end but... at the time those girls started yelling "Aqours, Aquors" I had to facepalm hard... that scene didn't really fit the mood there (like the whole school was only their petty idol club, come on!). I couldn't feel Mari's tears, everything just felt way too artificial to me. Really, it bothers me a lot that Sunshine S2 mostly resorted to random funny and would-be cool scenes and that it don't take itself seriously at all. It was enjoyable at first but it honestly doesn't work right now. The unfortunate result is that I couldn't get emotional at all during those farewell scenes. Whereas the µ's instantly grabbed my heart pretty firmly during their final episodes - there was certain sense of ephemerality, urgence that made their coming of age story so good. And this feeling is certainly missing here. |
| Lovely & enjoyable episode. Glad to see everyone enjoying the School Closing Festival. The releasing of all those balloons was cool. Sad to see that Aqours is coming to an end. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| Is this the real life? Is this just ｊｏｋｅ? |
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| More Mari screen time <3 The speech of passing time really hit me, and wow I got chills at the singing in the end. |
  Crying doesn't mean you're weak. Enduring doesn't mean you're strong. |
| Everyone helping with the school edging festival. Poor yoshiko with that amazing booth and getting no people :'( Mari saying gomenasai but everyone cheers and sings for aqours :'( |
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| Wow, I got really emotional during this episode. I was actually starting to like this season less and less, but the last episode and this one were so good! I suddenly remember why I love Love Live so much, because of this bittersweet sensation you get when you know everything is going to end soon after seeing all these girls having fun together during 2 seasons. The sensation that you have no control over the time passing, that you know you will remember these moments forever with nostalgia but you don't want them to end; is really well represented in this show. I think we all have experienced that at least once in our lives and it made me nostalgic, exactly like the second season of the original Love Live did. And of course Nozomi's tarot cards on Yohane's stand made me reallyyyyyy happy, she's my number 1 waifu and I highly appreciate that! |
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| Where is my ChikaRiko?????? </3 Replace Yoshiko with Chika in that last scene with Riko at the bon fire would've make this episode the best for me. I mean, that exchange of glances and holding hands! >.< That scene was so beautiful T____T |
Next week, Kanan will give Mari a ring and they will married .... But it's joke |
| Lovely episode! The school event turned out successful really. The girls were so happy. The bonfire scene seemed pretty good with heartwarming song together. |
Mich666 said: I pretty much agree until the second paragraph. For the last part of what you said, all I can say is that the farewells (is it the graduation?) are not the main focus of this season. Think of it like the final episodes of s1 & s2 of SIP either being switched or combined for Sunshine s2. µ's graduation was given greater focus because Love Live was already finished, it was set to the side. For Aqours, its pretty much the opposite, the 3rd years had their episode last week to give them closure and give focus on winning the finals. also, from me, the emotional aspect of the Aqours 3rd years graduation was less of an impact because it kinda became a Love Live trope among other things even though it was more fleshed out even in the first season. That said, what I talked about is based on the assumption that the 'farewell' you're talking about is the graduation so this is basically pointless if I misunderstood. |
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Groen90 said: Is this the real life? Is this just ｊｏｋｅ? Erika___ said: Where is my ChikaRiko?????? </3 Replace Yoshiko with Chika in that last scene with Riko at the bon fire would've make this episode the best for me. I mean, that exchange of glances and holding hands! >.< That scene was so beautiful T____T Riko and Dia both got NTR'ed sadly Teneffy said: And of course Nozomi's tarot cards on Yohane's stand made me reallyyyyyy happy, she's my number 1 waifu and I highly appreciate that! did not notice that :o but I did see an offspring of Kotori. |
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Erika___ said: Where is my ChikaRiko?????? </3 Replace Yoshiko with Chika in that last scene with Riko at the bon fire would've make this episode the best for me. I mean, that exchange of glances and holding hands! >.< That scene was so beautiful T____T I'm starting to think there's an OT3 here, not a NTR, just the three of them are shipped |
red-tomato said: Groen90 said: Is this the real life? Is this just ｊｏｋｅ? Erika___ said: Where is my ChikaRiko?????? </3 Replace Yoshiko with Chika in that last scene with Riko at the bon fire would've make this episode the best for me. I mean, that exchange of glances and holding hands! >.< That scene was so beautiful T____T Riko and Dia both got NTR'ed sadly Teneffy said: And of course Nozomi's tarot cards on Yohane's stand made me reallyyyyyy happy, she's my number 1 waifu and I highly appreciate that! did not notice that :o but I did see an offspring of Kotori. I saw that immediatly, I think I'm a little bit too obsessed with Nozomi... What is an offspring? (sorry english is not my first langage and I still don't understand the meaning of it even after searching on internet ^^') For Mari I did notice that she's different from a scene to another but I think it's part of her character, she was already like that in the first season. That's why I really like her, on the outside she's an eccentric and crazy girl but on the inside she seems to actually worry a lot for her friends. I'm still not sure who I prefer between her and Kanan, but Mari is really growing on me with the last two episodes, she's showing a more emotional side of herself like in the end of season 1. Tho I do think they are making her cry a lot this season for the drama. |
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| Putting aside the blatant KanaMari proposal because those two have all but gotten it on on screen, do folks realize how strong YohaRiko is this season to be a pair that isn't ChikaRiko? I know they still loaded this show with ChikaRiko, but that ship really caught the others slipping. I know it kind of stems from the game, but I still think it's funny. Even YouChika actually existed this week. Never thought I'd see that in my lifetime. |
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Teneffy said: red-tomato said: Riko and Dia both got NTR'ed sadly did not notice that :o but I did see an offspring of Kotori. I saw that immediatly, I think I'm a little bit too obsessed with Nozomi... What is an offspring? (sorry english is not my first langage and I still don't understand the meaning of it even after searching on internet ^^') For Mari I did notice that she's different from a scene to another but I think it's part of her character, she was already like that in the first season. That's why I really like her, on the outside she's an eccentric and crazy girl but on the inside she seems to actually worry a lot for her friends. I'm still not sure who I prefer between her and Kanan, but Mari is really growing on me with the last two episodes, she's showing a more emotional side of herself like in the end of season 1. Tho I do think they are making her cry a lot this season for the drama. offspring=child also, what I meant about Mari was how she looked in the episode- her design and not her character(which is a part of her that I love). one example is her hair, in which its length differs from scene to scene |
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Teneffy said: red-tomato said: Riko and Dia both got NTR'ed sadly did not notice that :o but I did see an offspring of Kotori. I saw that immediatly, I think I'm a little bit too obsessed with Nozomi... What is an offspring? (sorry english is not my first langage and I still don't understand the meaning of it even after searching on internet ^^') For Mari I did notice that she's different from a scene to another but I think it's part of her character, she was already like that in the first season. That's why I really like her, on the outside she's an eccentric and crazy girl but on the inside she seems to actually worry a lot for her friends. I'm still not sure who I prefer between her and Kanan, but Mari is really growing on me with the last two episodes, she's showing a more emotional side of herself like in the end of season 1. Tho I do think they are making her cry a lot this season for the drama. Mari just has a lot of weigh on her shoulders, yet she's so strong |
red-tomato said: Teneffy said: I saw that immediatly, I think I'm a little bit too obsessed with Nozomi... What is an offspring? (sorry english is not my first langage and I still don't understand the meaning of it even after searching on internet ^^') For Mari I did notice that she's different from a scene to another but I think it's part of her character, she was already like that in the first season. That's why I really like her, on the outside she's an eccentric and crazy girl but on the inside she seems to actually worry a lot for her friends. I'm still not sure who I prefer between her and Kanan, but Mari is really growing on me with the last two episodes, she's showing a more emotional side of herself like in the end of season 1. Tho I do think they are making her cry a lot this season for the drama. offspring=child also, what I meant about Mari was how she looked in the episode- her design and not her character(which is a part of her that I love). one example is her hair, in which its length differs from scene to scene Oh ok, I was thinking you were talking about her character development. But for her look I totally agree with you, it's very weird how much the length of her hair change during the episode! I've already noticed the inconsistance in her character design from the app cards and the first season : sometimes her face looks very childish while she looks more mature most of the time. Her forehead and eyes too seems to be bigger or smaller depending on the episode or the illustration. |
TeneffyDec 16, 2017 10:00 PM
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Teneffy said: red-tomato said: offspring=child also, what I meant about Mari was how she looked in the episode- her design and not her character(which is a part of her that I love). one example is her hair, in which its length differs from scene to scene Oh ok, I was thinking you were talking about her character development. But for her look I totally agree with you, it's very weird how much the length of her hair change during the episode! I've already noticed the inconsistance in her character design from the app cards and the first season : sometimes her face looks very childish while she looks more mature most of the time. Her forehead and eyes too seems to be bigger or smaller depending on the episode or the illustration. I prefer the upper one because its closer to the look on her cards in SIF and that it matches with her character :P but the bottom one is damn HOT also, the child-like look doesn't only apply to her though (look at the ED and the s1 poster) and it was a problem for me when I first watched Sunshine |
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| I'm not crying!! No it's just rain. It's definitely just rain. Goddamn it! *rolls over sobbing* This episode was beautiful and definitely gave us good pre-closure to Aqours. I don't understand why people are still salty about them not being able to save their school and declaring the entire sunshine series as garbage. Fck you guys this was a really good bittersweet episode. That MarixKanan at the end hahaha plus ChikaxYou after Riko leaves her for Yoshiko lmao |
DarkwindJRDec 17, 2017 6:19 AM
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| Kinda think we are for sure getting either a movie for the finale or a season three. There is no way they are finishing this story in two more episodes. It feels like it has much more story to tell in comparison to the original Love Live. Also, with the amount of character development as well as the way in which they still haven't saved the school, I'm starting to think Sunshine may be the superior show. I think the underlying plot with the third years helped this show a lot, and added more depth to the story compared to the original in which all of them only had individual problems. Also did anyone notice that a certain person who looked similar to a muse member was there? |
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fajri_fish said: The emotional focus of Love Live Sunshine is the uranohoshi school and the love live event, meanwhile, Love Live IP focused on each member emotional aspects. Let me explain this with some points : 1. both series share the same problem : school that will be closed. In SIP, u's solved this problem easily, not even reach the end of season 1. But in sunshine, this became the main problem. Even until nearly end of season 2, this still be a problem (and maybe, uranohoshi will closed for real 😞). 2. SIP gives too much focus on characters development (like episode focused on Rin, Nico, Eli, etc). While in sunshine, lesser character's episode, especially in this season 2 which is focused on the school and love live). Thats why, sunshine feels like less emotional than SIP. 3. many of the students of Uranohoshi has voice actors 😀, which is good. Something that SIP don't have. 4. Maybe, because the setting is in a seaside small town, the story became more lighter in sunshine. Random funny and woulb-be cool scenes are okay for me. I really love both Love live school idol project and sunshine. Depends on what type of drama you like. If you want a quiet heavy dramatic moments, SIP would be your favorite. If you want lighter dramatic moments, sunshine would be the best. But personally, I like Aqours more than u's tbh. Guess I should correct myself here, to make my opinion more clear. Have to say I actually pretty much agree with your points and I understand them, although I do think there were good character developement episodes too (basically episodes 2-7) and I liked that as those greatly portrayed something Aquors S1 lacked. But now when the time has came for the conclusion and emotions the direction didn't work. The way the went to Mari's crying with the previous half of the episode stuffed with random jokes was just undeveloped, the moment honestly felt like 'insert force crying scene here'. Now that it counts they should emphasize how everyone felt about their school in more emotional way. So... the overall plot wasn't actually bad, only the actual execution was. I actually like the fact that their school won't be probably saved, it feels more real to me (and I hope there actually won't be any 'magic' to revert that decision otherwise whole this season would be pretty pointless). I like how they are trying to show that although things are not always perfect you just have to keep going. Sadly, since the beginning Aquors were in µ's shadow and the series was even conscious of it putting in way too much in terms of references and that didn't allow Aquors to shine on their own so the characters in the original IP were logically a lot more developed after S1 than Aquors were here. Aquors felt like carbon copies, almost, and it's only understanable as there was clear intent to milk the series, that's undeniable. Also, for Aquors it honestly felt like they achieved nothing in S1 and they only corrected in the S2 (which is actually bit better in this regard). And as seiyuu are concerned there are only few who really stands out (mainly Riko's VA who is oldest of them and maybe Yoshiko's - you have to watch their online PVs to actually realize that). Others were pretty much unexperienced, just 'normal girls' that were thrown in the water of the big franchise with great amount of pressure to learn swimming on the go - and it shows. They struggled and improved a bit in this season but still, there is something they lack. So I would actually appreciated if Aquors gone through similiar emotional drama as µ's did as it would make us care more about them. Maybe it's just my preferenece but I believe it would work better. Instead they only copied their achetypes and basic plot but were trying something different with it and it didn't work quite well because those archetypes were set to different goals. So either they should have copied everything or they should go for lot more different approach instead, making new characters a lot more memorable and also relatable. |
| This show is way more gayer than the original one. YohaRiko & MariKanan (ChikaYou ad well Ithhink) are damn official now guys! I scream loudly when I saw Yohane & Riko holding hands, and than the KananMari scene my god! Unfortunately I don’t feel much feels as much as u’s, I want to see a crying scene, but at the same time I’m glad they didn’t cry like u’s did. I don’t want to see Aqours ended damn it. I want a movie! |
Maruko-sanDec 17, 2017 8:50 PM
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Mich666 said: I disagree with s1 accomplishing nothing. Although on paper they didn't accomplish something, the sudden realization chika had by the end of the season and them actually having a goal they can work towards to is already an accomplishment in its own right. I don't know if you're one of those people who hated the muse circlejerking last seasonthe but because of that, Chika's sudden realization and growth as a character made more impact than any other character love live has to offer and the fact that they intentionally made the series like that is made it a thousand times better, you couldn't even call it bad writing. fajri_fish said: The emotional focus of Love Live Sunshine is the uranohoshi school and the love live event, meanwhile, Love Live IP focused on each member emotional aspects. Let me explain this with some points : 1. both series share the same problem : school that will be closed. In SIP, u's solved this problem easily, not even reach the end of season 1. But in sunshine, this became the main problem. Even until nearly end of season 2, this still be a problem (and maybe, uranohoshi will closed for real 😞). 2. SIP gives too much focus on characters development (like episode focused on Rin, Nico, Eli, etc). While in sunshine, lesser character's episode, especially in this season 2 which is focused on the school and love live). Thats why, sunshine feels like less emotional than SIP. 3. many of the students of Uranohoshi has voice actors 😀, which is good. Something that SIP don't have. 4. Maybe, because the setting is in a seaside small town, the story became more lighter in sunshine. Random funny and woulb-be cool scenes are okay for me. I really love both Love live school idol project and sunshine. Depends on what type of drama you like. If you want a quiet heavy dramatic moments, SIP would be your favorite. If you want lighter dramatic moments, sunshine would be the best. But personally, I like Aqours more than u's tbh. Guess I should correct myself here, to make my opinion more clear. Have to say I actually pretty much agree with your points and I understand them, although I do think there were good character developement episodes too (basically episodes 2-7) and I liked that as those greatly portrayed something Aquors S1 lacked. But now when the time has came for the conclusion and emotions the direction didn't work. The way the went to Mari's crying with the previous half of the episode stuffed with random jokes was just undeveloped, the moment honestly felt like 'insert force crying scene here'. Now that it counts they should emphasize how everyone felt about their school in more emotional way. So... the overall plot wasn't actually bad, only the actual execution was. I actually like the fact that their school won't be probably saved, it feels more real to me (and I hope there actually won't be any 'magic' to revert that decision otherwise whole this season would be pretty pointless). I like how they are trying to show that although things are not always perfect you just have to keep going. Sadly, since the beginning Aquors were in µ's shadow and the series was even conscious of it putting in way too much in terms of references and that didn't allow Aquors to shine on their own so the characters in the original IP were logically a lot more developed after S1 than Aquors were here. Aquors felt like carbon copies, almost, and it's only understanable as there was clear intent to milk the series, that's undeniable. Also, for Aquors it honestly felt like they achieved nothing in S1 and they only corrected in the S2 (which is actually bit better in this regard). And as seiyuu are concerned there are only few who really stands out (mainly Riko's VA who is oldest of them and maybe Yoshiko's - you have to watch their online PVs to actually realize that). Others were pretty much unexperienced, just 'normal girls' that were thrown in the water of the big franchise with great amount of pressure to learn swimming on the go - and it shows. They struggled and improved a bit in this season but still, there is something they lack. So I would actually appreciated if Aquors gone through similiar emotional drama as µ's did as it would make us care more about them. Maybe it's just my preferenece but I believe it would work better. Instead they only copied their achetypes and basic plot but were trying something different with it and it didn't work quite well because those archetypes were set to different goals. So either they should have copied everything or they should go for lot more different approach instead, making new characters a lot more memorable and also relatable. As for the development of its characters, sure SIP had more to offer than Sunshine but that's mainly due to the problem still being present in this current season only this time they have a goal and it's to save the school; the main focus of this season since the first season's focus was finding their own radiance/identity. Basically this: Throughout the entire series both sunshine s1 and s2, it never really did feel like Love Live was their main focus unlike the second season of the original. I understand how you feel since this season is ending and yet it still doesn't feel real; the third years graduating, school closing down, and even their rivals being out of the picture. Everyone's expecting sunshine to end this season and honestly so do I, but it feels as if there's more to it than this. It doesn't feel like it's ending just yet although one might say it's wishful thinking. I don't know why you're discrediting sunshine for it's seiyuus, unlike muse who were all already seiyuus to begin with and guess what, their voices didn't feel like they suited each other. It took some time but they improved at singing and their songs as well. The sunshine seiyuus isn't even something you can call inexperienced. They were both great in singing and voice acting there's even a distinct vibe on each of their voice that make them distinguishable from the rest. But this part is honestly subjective. They didn't copy anything besides the save the school plot. Both series' goals aren't even identical although there's some sort of resemblance to them. Copying the whole plot point with the love live succeeding etc. from the first season probably isn't going to fare well with a lot of people. I mean have you seen the threads of sunshine's past season, it's always complaints like those. The feelings put in sunshine feels more real than aritificial, it'd be pretty weird if they suddenly focused on love live after everything that happened. Sunshine isn't bad, it just seems like you liked the happier and more fulfilling end to the story than a more anticlimatic one. Here's to hoping that sunshine doesn't end here. |
EGOISTDec 17, 2017 10:24 PM
EGOIST said: I disagree with s1 accomplishing nothing. Although on paper they didn't accomplish something, the sudden realization chika had by the end of the season and them actually having a goal they can work towards to is already an accomplishment in its own right. I don't know if you're one of those people who hated the muse circlejerking last seasonthe but because of that, Chika's sudden realization and growth as a character made more impact than any other character love live has to offer and the fact that they intentionally made the series like that is made it a thousand times better, you couldn't even call it bad writing. As for the development of its characters, sure SIP had more to offer than Sunshine but that's mainly due to the problem still being present in this current season only this time they have a goal and it's to save the school; the main focus of this season since the first season's focus was finding their own radiance/identity. I understand when you come from but I think the main underlying problem with Aqours since the beginning of S1 was the very fact that they put them into pretty much the same position as µ's was back then and it actually forced people to compare. And Aquors fawning over them onscreen didn't help either. I think it would be much better for the future of franchise if they tried something different and fresh from the start - different personalities, different numbers (7 would be nice too), different problems and goals - and fans actually expected such. And I believe the constant mentioning of µ's throughout all the season, putting them as unreachable goal ahead of them was actually counterproductive in the end as this decision basically denied them of their very own identity and uniqueness. The scene with Chika is great in itself but should have happened much sooner into the season, they shouln't take so long to realize something that obvious (never underestimate the intellingence of your viewers). And I actually like Chika as a character. But ultimately, between the lines, I can almost hear Sunrise's voice pleading saying 'we didn't achieved much this time, yes, but it gets definitely better so please stay with us' - it felt like an ultimate cliffhanger not a season closure if you ask me. Yes, there were some nice parts in the S1 but those were pretty scarce and the only episodes that really stood out were ep8 and ep9 with their trip to Tokyo. I still believe they should have waited one more year before airing the anime to let µ's madness die out a bit (although it's still very strong even today and Aquors never actually really stepped out of their shadow completely but it would helped a lot). They should let the girls grow some bond and confidence together. EGOIST said: Throughout the entire series both sunshine s1 and s2, it never really did feel like Love Live was their main focus unlike the second season of the original. I understand how you feel since this season is ending and yet it still doesn't feel real; the third years graduating, school closing down, and even their rivals being out of the picture. Everyone's expecting sunshine to end this season and honestly so do I, but it feels as if there's more to it than this. It doesn't feel like it's ending just yet although one might say it's wishful thinking. I would actually liked even better if at some point they actually decided they don't need Love Live competetion anymore and dropped off the ladder completely. Instead of those unmeaningful idol battles they could car-travel around the country, singing and building their popularity by pure effort rather than by fake fame elevator contest. It would have clicked much better with me if they decided to focus on their school instead, with the amount of time they have left there. It's actually pretty ironic that some of the stories in School Idol Festival game conveys this feeling a lot better.They should also put more ephasize on friendship - the excellent turning point here could be episode 3 of this season where in face of the decision between their school and Love Live, they would choose the school and friendship only. But I guess this was no go for Sunrise as they would be basically undermining their own IP for sake of the better story. Which is shame because it would make the characters more different, more memorable in the end. And as for your wishful thinking - the movie was pretty much confirmed in the last episode when girls made their wish to reunite one day. EGOIST said: I don't know why you're discrediting sunshine for it's seiyuus, unlike muse who were all already seiyuus to begin with and guess what, their voices didn't feel like they suited each other. It took some time but they improved at singing and their songs as well. The sunshine seiyuus isn't even something you can call inexperienced. They were both great in singing and voice acting there's even a distinct vibe on each of their voice that make them distinguishable from the rest. But this part is honestly subjective. They didn't copy anything besides the save the school plot. Both series' goals aren't even identical although there's some sort of resemblance to them. Copying the whole plot point with the love live succeeding etc. from the first season probably isn't going to fare well with a lot of people. I mean have you seen the threads of sunshine's past season, it's always complaints like those. The feelings put in sunshine feels more real than aritificial, it'd be pretty weird if they suddenly focused on love live after everything that happened. Speaking of seiyuu, I never meant to actually imply that I don't like Aquors VAs or something. Riko, Dia, Mari, Chika seiyuu does really well and I even grow used to Yoshiko during this season (though I hated her shtik in S1). I'm still reserved about others and while I do think the Ruby is more of the problem of character archetype rather than her seiyuu (as both Ruby and Hanamaru are mostly one trick ponies), Kanan's VA is very bland for example. You are also right about their singing skills compared to µ's but somehow I don't think that's the most important thing here. Also µ's had better songs overall if you ask me (although some latest Aquors' ones are nice too) but you are right that those things can be subjective. Maybe it's just me but watching those PVs with mostly giggling girls that are not able to voice their opinion well doesn't really turn me on or something. It doesn't spark my interest enough for me to actually care about them and it transfers to their characters and their voices too. With the exceptions of those listed above they certainly lack more charisma (or maybe I'm just getting older and my expectation are higher). Whereas with µ's the situation was different. Most of the µ's very already experinced seiyuu, had more time and concert experience together prior to the anime (hell, their first meet was as early as 2010 I believe) and it really shows in the anime too. If you've ever listened to Nanjou Yoshino, Mimori Suzuko or Nitta Emi you had to actually realize their words run deep and are very clever and you can see their charisma almost instantly to the point you can idolize them, along with others. The fact that µ's were closer to my age can be also deciding factor here but at least for now Aquors' seiyuu just don't have this something in them (save for Aida Rikako maybe). But yeah, truth to be told this is mainly because of their lack of real experience and it could get better in time if Aquors are here to stay (and if not partly replaced by Perfect Dream Project). |
Mich666 said: I actually like the fact that their school won't be probably saved, it feels more real to me funny how people are saying Sunshine is more real than SIP, when I also saw an article saying LLSIP is more real compared to K-On! |
| An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't) |
| AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH They still rolling with the feelsy stuff, couldn't end like a normal anime, nope, had to make me feel sad about it like, 4 weeks before the anime actually ends, and then continue hammering it in afterwards with this episode. This feeling in my gut is not one I get from most anime that I watch. All this talk about the future and time and stuff makes me want to see the girls more. I want to see them after Love Live ends, I want to see them after they graduate, I want to see what kind of lives they live once this is all over. I feel like I'm about to have to say good bye to someone close to me, and I'm trying hard to cherish the little time we have left together. I don't want it to end. |
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| Guys, was i the only one that spotted Umi on this last episode? Have a look at minute 11:25  |
dartinhu2Dec 18, 2017 6:35 PM
| Dem feels there at the closing ceremony. |
dartinhu2 said: Guys, was i the only one that spotted Umi on this last episode? Don't you think that Chika would recognize her as die-hard fan of μ's? Probably wasn't her, although looks similiar. |
dartinhu2 said: Hmm, i would agree with you if we were talking about Dia, or Ruby, but i never saw Chika as a "die-hard" fan, maybe an admirer at best.. Not to mention that she can be very dense sometimes (specially when focused on other stuff). Have you even S1? (first episode would be enough). Chika has μ's posters in her room, was watching their videos regularly, trying to dance to their choreography and whole definition of shine is μ's for her. There is no way she wouldn't recognize her. Not to mention Riko was there too. Also, don't forget that even if 5 years has passed she followed the μ's for all that time even after they disbanded. They didn't stop existing in-universe so even though we may not know what each member was doing during that time the characters of the anime do. So it would be very weak developement to explain it with her just being dense. |
| Ugh that was a very adorable and fun closing festival. Too heartwarming, maaan. |
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