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Raigeki1993 said: wakka9ca said: Raigeki1993 said: Saygram said: Oh Yeah Shana wins again. I liked the episode. As for me, the whole series should be just that. More mature, without that annoying fool, and love triangle. Then, they wouldn't need Rie Kugimiya -.-, Rie Kugimiya is known as Queen of Tsundere. If Shana would be more mature, she wouldn't be dere at all and would be tsun all the time, then people would hate the anime... Sheesh... No, I would like this anime instead. I like pure tsun tsun. The dere dere part can pass. Think about black-coat Shana hunting Tomogaras incognito. That's what I call badass. You do know most of the fans of Shakugan no Shana is watching it because the main character is voiced by Rie Kugimiya right? You are forgetting the light novel fans. This is originally a light novel, not an anime. So far, the second half of the first season and the second season have been rather a weak adaption. Too much random original plots all around the places. And Kugyu has voiced non-tsundere characters, Alphonse Elric and Hotaru Imai being prime examples... |
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| For those wondering about Shana's behaviour...dont you remember how she was at the start of season 1? This is exactly how Shana used to be before Yuji slowly started to make her learn more about feelings humanity in general. The way she treated Yuji and the torch of Hirai Yukari was the same as how she is treating Junko and her family/friends here as well. Shana was a Flame Haze that always took (and still does) her job extremely seriously and would do anything to accomplish her mission after all. If anything this episode helped me realize just how much Shana has grown (mentally and emotionally) and how much more human she has become ever since meeting Yuji, I guess you could also blame him for turning Shana tsundere over time lol Also if im not mistaken episode 4 will be the second part of this story, Im guessing Shana will finally fight the Tomogara? 1 thing we know for sure is that Junko's existence will be forgotten, which is actually pretty sad if you think about it |
wakka9ca said: Raigeki1993 said: wakka9ca said: Raigeki1993 said: Saygram said: Oh Yeah Shana wins again. I liked the episode. As for me, the whole series should be just that. More mature, without that annoying fool, and love triangle. Then, they wouldn't need Rie Kugimiya -.-, Rie Kugimiya is known as Queen of Tsundere. If Shana would be more mature, she wouldn't be dere at all and would be tsun all the time, then people would hate the anime... Sheesh... No, I would like this anime instead. I like pure tsun tsun. The dere dere part can pass. Think about black-coat Shana hunting Tomogaras incognito. That's what I call badass. You do know most of the fans of Shakugan no Shana is watching it because the main character is voiced by Rie Kugimiya right? You are forgetting the light novel fans. This is originally a light novel, not an anime. So far, the second half of the first season and the second season have been rather a weak adaption. Too much random original plots all around the places. And Kugyu has voiced non-tsundere characters, Alphonse Elric and Hotaru Imai being prime examples... So... I would like the third season was more just like this episode. |
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game8910 said: Also if im not mistaken episode 4 will be the second part of this story, Im guessing Shana will finally fight the Tomogara? 1 thing we know for sure is that Junko's existence will be forgotten, which is actually pretty sad if you think about it I actually do not think the Tomogara fight is necessary. If the entire point of this episode was, as you said, to contrast how Shana has grown over the course of the two seasons, then the episode has done its job and any other portion of this plot is unnecessary. The whole point of this OVA series is just to stall and build on the characters. Now, of course, that would just suck if we missed out on the fight though, so I too am hoping the next episode is a fight with the Tomogara. I do not guarantee it though, especially with the title being "Ceremony." :/ |
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Swofty said: game8910 said: Also if im not mistaken episode 4 will be the second part of this story, Im guessing Shana will finally fight the Tomogara? 1 thing we know for sure is that Junko's existence will be forgotten, which is actually pretty sad if you think about it I actually do not think the Tomogara fight is necessary. If the entire point of this episode was, as you said, to contrast how Shana has grown over the course of the two seasons, then the episode has done its job and any other portion of this plot is unnecessary. The whole point of this OVA series is just to stall and build on the characters. Now, of course, that would just suck if we missed out on the fight though, so I too am hoping the next episode is a fight with the Tomogara. I do not guarantee it though, especially with the title being "Ceremony." :/ Actually if im not mistaken the final episode will be titles (Ouverture - Part 2) also the box cover of this DVD volume is only half finished, volume 4 is said to finish it making 1 whole picture |
ReaperEXE said: I don't remember Shakugan no Shana being so boring... |
Raigeki1993 said: I watched Shakugan no Shana, Hayate no Gotoku, Zero no Tsukaima, all for Rie Kugimiya's tsundere characters. Yes. |
| Boring. We all knew that Shana was a bitch before she met Yuuji. 1/5, as this episodes was terribly boring. Not one part of it was nice. |
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confuser987 said: You either mean "old" shana or youngER shana. This is before she meant Yuji. Old as in before Yuji. There is no "older" shana so I wasn't expecting people to take it as such. |
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| I really liked this episode as it reminded me of how I got into this anime. This is what I want when I watch Shakugan no Shana, not the mess that the anime has become. But with this episode, things are looking bright for season 3. |
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| Fortunately I watched this episode during a slow day, wasn't in a rush to finish it and so really enjoyed the touching story. The animation was pretty outstanding here. The story might be pretty cliche and simplistic but we haven't had one of these in a very long time, i like it very much. Is it a 2-part episode? I hope not - there doesn't seem to be much to go on from here other than defeating the tomogara. I'd rather they explore some other storyline that is only possible within a OVA. |
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| Nice to look at, but really boring to follow. |
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Raigeki1993 said: The next and last OVA ep will come out in September. They spaced each of them 3 months from each other although the made us wait another month for this "Okay" episode. When I first saw the beginning of this I was not following along. But as it continued I finally found out that this was before Shana met Yuji and this is how she acted before everything happened that we saw in the previous 2 seasons. I would rate this ep a 4/5. Just to show us Shana's POV (point of view) of a flame haze. I also think the last ova ep will be the 2nd part of this since they left it open...I think next episode might be interesting, that was probably the last mission she was on right before she meets Yuji. Btw, anyone know when the next OVA comes out? I have a feeling it's going to be awhile. |
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Nemesis2005 said: I really liked this episode as it reminded me of how I got into this anime. This is what I want when I watch Shakugan no Shana, not the mess that the anime has become. But with this episode, things are looking bright for season 3. this^ |
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DragonsWhip said: Boring. We all knew that Shana was a bitch before she met Yuuji. 1/5, as this episodes was terribly boring. Not one part of it was nice. I wasn't expecting her to be such an asshole though. But I have to disagree on "not one part of it was nice" since I actually liked her clothes. Boots for the win. Apart from that, this OVA series have been boring all around. I hope they don't screw S3 the same way they've been screwing up lately, because if they actually manage to do a sucky adaptation with the novel material they I think everything is lost for this franchise. |
Iisan-kun said: I think the first season should've started with episodes like this, and bring in Yuuji sometime afterwards. Would have been a great introduction indeed, since the very beginning of the first season felt forced and strangely coincidental as always, whereas this flashback is actually real nice and would have allowed for Shana to be introduced properly and grow even more as a character. It was a very good episode, I didn't remember SnS' atmosphere and script to be this good actually. |
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| Not much going on, but I did enjoy this episode very much. I liked the pace and how the episode felt, it made me really miss season 1 and how Shana was back then. It was nice to see some back story of Shana before she met Yuuji. I can't wait for episode 4, but of course I'm still counting the days until Season 3. |
| I'd say this is the best episode of Shana to date... |
| Nice eps although we don't see other character.. Shana <3 Kugi Rie never fail to amuse me lol Give me S3 without love triangle and moar battle |
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| Wow that was boring. Needs more Kazumi. |
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llamaben said: I'd say this is the best episode of Shana to date... |
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| Well yeah I can feel kind of bad about that girl that she become touch and her whole exist be gone. |
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| This OP just keeps getting better. : > And Shana is just as bad at interacting with humans as usual ^^; |
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| This is way better as a character study than action, and honestly it's better without Yuji. I ;_;'d a bit. Better than the first two series combined. ugh. |
| It was alright... wasn't that good or entirely boring/bad =/ |
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| Great episode, though I did find it a bit slow/boring. |
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| That was a really sad episode, I nearly cried. Actually without Yuuji, this episode makes it more interesting, only Shana. Want the 4th episode ;_; |
| Guess people hate or like it cuz it has less of the other characters. I'm for the hated side. Too much Shana means boring and slow. Needs the supporting cast. |
| Another lesson for Shana. I'm just not sure where to put it on the time line. |
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cyruz said: Another lesson for Shana. I'm just not sure where to put it on the time line. should be pretty obvious....this is before season 1 episode 1 |
game8910 said: For those wondering about Shana's behaviour...dont you remember how she was at the start of season 1? This is exactly how Shana used to be before Yuji slowly started to make her learn more about feelings humanity in general. The way she treated Yuji and the torch of Hirai Yukari was the same as how she is treating Junko and her family/friends here as well. Shana was a Flame Haze that always took (and still does) her job extremely seriously and would do anything to accomplish her mission after all. If anything this episode helped me realize just how much Shana has grown (mentally and emotionally) and how much more human she has become ever since meeting Yuji, I guess you could also blame him for turning Shana tsundere over time lol Also if im not mistaken episode 4 will be the second part of this story, Im guessing Shana will finally fight the Tomogara? 1 thing we know for sure is that Junko's existence will be forgotten, which is actually pretty sad if you think about it QFT! I thought it was an excellent episode, and the focus on the Torch Junko & her family was very well done and poignant. For some reason I liked Junko right off, and watched with curiosity where she was going. And then she runs into a fierce-looking Shana... oh shit... this won't turn out well... The anxiety mounted with each passing second that the confrontation lasted; when Shana extinguished the Torch it was just so sad. Fans seem to gloss over the fact that these Torches are human (or were) and that their existence becomes as if naught; their entire lives are wasted, as are their influences upon their family and friends. I felt the same way after Hirai Yukari was taken. It's quite tragic :-( Kinda surprised at all the haters; ya can't have (and/or don't need) action in EVERY episode, jeez. I'm sure that the next OVA will supply plenty of it. Over the course of these three OVAs I've enjoyed the balancing out of all the aspects of the regular series.Since it's just a series of OVAs I'm not expecting anything too exceptional in the ways that a series might deliver; usually OVAs are just put out to maintain interest in a series or else just cashing in. These are actually adding to the Shana canon, which is cool :-D While it's true that the action's been lacking, the balance will be restored after the next, and then we will see how they treat Season 3, which I'm REALLY looking forward to! |
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viral_hun said: I definitely think it qualifies as one of the better episodes.llamaben said: I'd say this is the best episode of Shana to date... |
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Kowal said: Didn't get that much of what they said but I got enough to understand the story... I have to say that Shana eating cake was the highlight of my day. I am pretty disappointed at the fact there was no Yuji anywhere (Shana is at her best with him xD) |
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| i think this episode, and of course the next, is some sort of a stand-alone seinen version of how a Flame Haze works as a being that preserves the balance of existence, sometimes mingling around with the lives of Torches, those who are about to fade from existence.. this seems to be a different take on how the universe of SnS work and it can only be done before Shana met Yuuji.. i really like it and i believe this is one of the more uniquely better episodes.. i hope the next one brings this issue to a good resolution.. |
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