🙌 All praise the Holy Rei, Mother of Moe, Goddess of Anime. Blessed be her Name, for we all bask in her Sacred Light. 🙌 |
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🙌 All praise the Holy Rei, Mother of Moe, Goddess of Anime. Blessed be her Name, for we all bask in her Sacred Light. 🙌
| @Deathko I was thinking of purchasing a Daki of her because someone in the comments of other treads mentioned it (in insulting terms, but they mentioned it nonetheless), but even with all the merchandise of her I have bought (I have her on my wallet, for christ's sake) I still don't find her that 100% attractive for buying her Daki for now. Maybe in the future, but not now. There are more urgent characters I wish I had a daki than her (my wife Haruka Ten'ou/Sailor Uranus, for example) |
ProudElitistJun 19, 1:31 PM
| You are trolling right? Because he is one of the good sense animation directors alive, and a good mangaka. Technically, a lot of people that worked under him went to the industry, so you can't separate him, even if his work ethics and current industry techniques are moving in different branches. I like how he picked the right things from Moebius art too. That later influences a lot of good anime works too. Last, and actually the worst, his panty shot of Kiki and other stuff, adds him in the lolicon pantheon. Would you consider Date Hayato an authority? https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/2099019/ |
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You are trolling right?
Because he is one of the good sense animation directors alive, and a good mangaka. Technically, a lot of people that worked under him went to the industry, so you can't separate him, even if his work ethics and current industry techniques are moving in different branches. I like how he picked the right things from Moebius art too. That later influences a lot of good anime works too.
Last, and actually the worst, his panty shot of Kiki and other stuff, adds him in the lolicon pantheon.
Would you consider Date Hayato an authority? https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/2099019/
Because he is one of the good sense animation directors alive, and a good mangaka. Technically, a lot of people that worked under him went to the industry, so you can't separate him, even if his work ethics and current industry techniques are moving in different branches. I like how he picked the right things from Moebius art too. That later influences a lot of good anime works too.
Last, and actually the worst, his panty shot of Kiki and other stuff, adds him in the lolicon pantheon.
Would you consider Date Hayato an authority? https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/2099019/
Sasori56483 said: Date Hayato Never heard of them. .................... |
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@ItachiDeltaForce i agree with the satoshi kon thing. finally someone said it.
| @sadakiyoshi Satoshi Kon is an embarrassment to the industry. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| because we need to hide behind someone else's trash takes. |
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| Ghibli has had a profound impact on animation worldwide, and certainly Japan too, knowing it is well-respected and that many in the industry grew up on the films. His ability as a director and animator should make him an important voice, but sure, there are people who have most experience "in the industry". Miyazaki is an authority, but not the only one. |
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| Whether people like the guy or not, some of the Anime movies the dude worked on basically helped shaped the West get interested in Japanese Anime as a medium beyond just being seen as foreign cartoons for kids. Two extremely notable examples would be "Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind", and "Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro" in the early 80s. It's very likely if these films would have never made it in theaters in the West in the early 1980s and had their success, chances are films like "Akira" to "Project A-ko" would have never had Western interest in the 80s for distribution either. Streamline Pictures use to be one of the only major western distributors for Japanese Anime beyond just entertainment being distributed just for children such as what Harmony Gold tried to be prior. Without such success with early titles aimed beyond just for children being distributed for Western distribution for the 1st time, U.S. Renditions, AnimEigo, ADV Films, Manga Entertainment, and even Central Park Media would have likely never been inspired to get involved in mass western distribution either. There is a high chance Japanese Anime would have broadly never been massively distributed over seas the way it was in the 80s and 90s without the existence of such titles like "Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind" and "Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro". Where indirectly, chances are high, even people who do not like Miyazaki, would have never been initially exposed to Japanese Anime in their life in the 1st place in the West if such western distributing companies never even existed before either. |
ColourWheelJun 19, 8:36 PM
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| For the same reason Gordon Ramsay's seen as an authority on food and Martin Scorsese's seen as an authority on cinema. He's a master who's been dedicated to his craft for literal decades. |
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@sadakiyoshi
Satoshi Kon is an embarrassment to the industry.
Satoshi Kon is an embarrassment to the industry.
@Lucifrost       right, an embarrassment. inception totally didn't copy the entirety of the paprika movie. perfect blue inspired movies like black swan and requiem for a dream. |
| Why is Jesus a Top Tier religious figure, guys? I mean...what did he do for Relegion? o.O |
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| Because he made anime that people consider great classics. |
| Miyazaki is very overrated. Old man makes boring cartoons for children and talks something about real anime. What he does does not look like anime at all, its looks like Disney. |
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Miyazaki is very overrated. Old man makes boring cartoons for children and talks something about real anime.
What he does does not look like anime at all, its looks like Disney.
What he does does not look like anime at all, its looks like Disney.
| @x_scolopendra_x how is anime any different from Disney, please explain? |
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@x_scolopendra_x how is anime any different from Disney, please explain?
| @DesuMaiden Like, do i really need to explain this? You can just turn on Disney cartoon and anime and compare. They are completely different things. Anime is a completely different kind of animation that looks and feels different. First of all anime has different drawing style. Disney makes animation for children, a lot of anime is for adults. Anime has its own unique features: character archetypes, plot cliches, variety of genres and of course a big influence of japanese culture and lifestyle... No, really, is this a serious question or trolling? |
| For the same reason Walt Disney is the Father of the animation industry, Because without him, what you consider anime today would likely not exist. |
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@Lucifrost
right, an embarrassment. inception totally didn't copy the entirety of the paprika movie. perfect blue inspired movies like black swan and requiem for a dream.
right, an embarrassment. inception totally didn't copy the entirety of the paprika movie. perfect blue inspired movies like black swan and requiem for a dream.
| @sadakiyoshi Nobody cares about those movies that copied Kon. |
| その目だれの目？ |
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For the same reason Walt Disney is the Father of the animation industry, Because without him, what you consider anime today would likely not exist.
joemaamah said: For the same reason Walt Disney is the Father of the animation industry ...getting credited for work that other people did? |
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joemaamah said:
For the same reason Walt Disney is the Father of the animation industry
For the same reason Walt Disney is the Father of the animation industry
...getting credited for work that other people did?
| @thewiru For being the creative genius that directed others to create works that are timeless. And went on to inspire others to create even greater works. Try not to be obtuse, eh? |
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joemaamah said:
For the same reason Walt Disney is the Father of the animation industry
For the same reason Walt Disney is the Father of the animation industry
...getting credited for work that other people did?
| @thewiru Which works are you suggesting Disney is unfairly credited for? |
| その目だれの目？ |
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@thewiru
Which works are you suggesting Disney is unfairly credited for?
Which works are you suggesting Disney is unfairly credited for?
| @Lucifrost I don't actually recall, but I remember reading this claim multiple times. IIRC, he wasn't even the creator of Mickey Mouse. |
| Why does anyone believe that he isn’t? Weird thing to be in denial about given how clear his position is. |
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Why does anyone believe that he isn’t? Weird thing to be in denial about given how clear his position is.
| @cyandaqil A good chunk of the western fandom has a massive hateboner against him because they feel Miyazaki would judge them for their loli dakimakuras and shit favorites. |
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@cyandaqil A good chunk of the western fandom has a massive hateboner against him because they feel Miyazaki would judge them for their loli dakimakuras and shit favorites.
| @Deathko Yeah. He would judge them for not going for real kids instead.  |
thewiru said: @Lucifrost I don't actually recall, but I remember reading this claim multiple times. IIRC, he wasn't even the creator of Mickey Mouse. Without Walt Disney, it's likely Mickey Mouse would of simply remained some obscure drawing by Ub Iwerks in some sketch book. Walt Disney might have not created the characters drawn from scratch that are famously known but he conceptualized them to be produced and directed most of the Disney original projects actually putting together stories for the characters. Besides he voiced the character of Mickey Mouse for many of the early years. Walt Disney practically gave Mickey Mouse their personality we know today. Just imagine for a moment and take one of your favorite Anime characters. Would you still like them if they were just some drawing by someone without giving them a personality or put into any Anime or even putting them in a story for that matter? lol |
ColourWheelJun 20, 6:37 PM
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Specifically Hayao Miyazaki is an authority in animated storytelling. The guy is a Master animator and Director as well in the industry simply because he has been doing it since the early 60s. His work in the field has even generally influenced the way Japanese Anime has been produced for decades by the way projects are actually produced in the studios. Like it or not the guy revolutionized the Anime industry setting most of the standards for even general animated cinema even today. Mod Edit: Modified post to remove quote |
ScaryOwl51 minutes ago
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Specifically Hayao Miyazaki is an authority in animated storytelling. The guy is a Master animator and Director as well in the industry simply because he has been doing it since the early 60s. His work in the field has even generally influenced the way Japanese Anime has been produced for decades by the way projects are actually produced in the studios. Like it or not the guy revolutionized the Anime industry setting most of the standards for even general animated cinema even today.
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On-topic: I agree with OP 100%. And while we're at it, let's talk about Martin Scorcese. Like, why is he seen as an authority on cinema? How dare he criticize the masterpiece compendium that is the MCU, and its effects on the filmmaking industry?... what do you mean his career spans 50 years? What has he contributed for the art form in all that time besides making a bunch of italian mobster movies? /s Mod Edit: Removed baiting |
ScaryOwl50 minutes ago
thewiru said: and who only directed a single TV anime, that being Mirai Shounen Conan. That's straight up malicious bullshit lol. -He's credited as a director on more than Mirai Shounen Conan, as far as TV shows are concerned -He worked on many TV shows as an episode director or key animator -He's obviously know for founding the most famous anime studio ever and making movies, so if he has a problem with TV anime, he put his money where his mouth is. -Even if he only worked on one anime in his whole life, that'd still be one more than you, so, according to your logic, he'd still be more of an authority than you and your ramblings. |
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@cyandaqil A good chunk of the western fandom has a massive hateboner against him because they feel Miyazaki would judge them for their loli dakimakuras and shit favorites.
| @Deathko 90% of my hate is literally just for his political views, and who he is as a person. My hate for the populist right is equaled by my hate for self righteous leftists like Miyazaki (also a hypocrite). The other 10% is less Miyazaki and more his fanbase in the West. Deathko said: His viewpoints on American cinema, are frankly just hard to take seriously, and are straight up bogus in my opinion. He says a lot of stupid shit. Hey even creator, who I personally like such as Tomino also say a lot of stupid shit. If this point is just attack Wiru's logic though...fair enough. I agree. I don't see the point of bringing up his TV directorial past, when he did a good job there. Still I don't think artists having more accreditation means they have better opinions. If anything they often say lots of out of touch nonsense, and they should just get a pat on the back cause they made a good anime, film, show, art piece, musical number etc. Even if he only worked on one anime in his whole life, that'd still be one more than you, so, according to your logic, he'd still be more of an authority than you and your ramblings. All I am going to say is Miyazaki sn't some magnus opus writer yet people see his words, as God's gift to the universe, and apply his logic to define what good writing is. It would be a different story if it was just talking about the art of animation though, where I would argue he stands out there as one of the best. So yeah, I think he deserves way more critique in the fandom, not just because he hates the otaku, and I actually don't disagree with some of his points, granted I wouldn't argue Ghibli works were super innovative in regards to writing or characterization. |
BilboBaggins365Jun 21, 11:46 AM
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@Deathko 90% of my hate is literally just for his political views, and who he is as a person. My hate for the populist right is equaled by my hate for self righteous leftists like Miyazaki (also a hypocrite). The other 10% is less Miyazaki and more his fanbase in the West.
All I am going to say is Miyazaki sn't some magnus opus writer yet people see his words, as God's gift to the universe, and apply his logic to define what good writing is. It would be a different story if it was just talking about the art of animation though, where I would argue he stands out there as one of the best. So yeah, I think he deserves way more critique in the fandom, not just because he hates the otaku, and I actually don't disagree with some of his points, granted I wouldn't argue Ghibli works were super innovative in regards to writing or characterization.
Deathko said:
Even if he only worked on one anime in his whole life, that'd still be one more than you, so, according to your logic, he'd still be more of an authority than you and your ramblings.
His viewpoints on American cinema, are frankly just hard to take seriously, and are straight up bogus in my opinion. He says a lot of stupid shit. Hey even creator, who I personally like such as Tomino also say a lot of stupid shit. If this point is just attack Wiru's logic though...fair enough. I agree. I don't see the point of bringing up his TV directorial past, when he did a good job there. Still I don't think artists having more accreditation means they have better opinions. If anything they often say lots of out of touch nonsense, and they should just get a pat on the back cause they made a good anime, film, show, art piece, musical number etc. Even if he only worked on one anime in his whole life, that'd still be one more than you, so, according to your logic, he'd still be more of an authority than you and your ramblings.
All I am going to say is Miyazaki sn't some magnus opus writer yet people see his words, as God's gift to the universe, and apply his logic to define what good writing is. It would be a different story if it was just talking about the art of animation though, where I would argue he stands out there as one of the best. So yeah, I think he deserves way more critique in the fandom, not just because he hates the otaku, and I actually don't disagree with some of his points, granted I wouldn't argue Ghibli works were super innovative in regards to writing or characterization.
| @BilboBaggins365 I don't like that argument much either, but if OP sets rules, he has to play by the rules. His opinion on Miyazaki's authority over anime is instantly discredited by the rules he set. |
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@BilboBaggins365 I don't like that argument much either, but if OP sets rules, he has to play by the rules. His opinion on Miyazaki's authority over anime is instantly discredited by the rules he set.
| @Deathko Yeah fair, if that is the point. Though yeah i don't get it. Future Boy Conan was really good...so if anything it's too bad Miyazaki didn't do more TV anime (which I prefer to films anyway). Like I get Wiru doesn't like him, I don't like him either. Still he was a very important creative and did make good shit....maybe not the best in the industry, in my opinion, and hardly best when compared to other film makers globally however, he is a big guy just like Tomino or Tezuka, or Anno. Some of the most important guys in the business. |
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@Deathko Yeah fair, if that is the point. Though yeah i don't get it. Future Boy Conan was really good...so if anything it's too bad Miyazaki didn't do more TV anime (which I prefer to films anyway). Like I get Wiru doesn't like him, I don't like him either. Still he was a very important creative and did make good shit....maybe not the best in the industry, in my opinion, and hardly best when compared to other film makers globally however, he is a big guy just like Tomino or Tezuka, or Anno. Some of the most important guys in the business.
| @BilboBaggins365 I think Ghibli movies are solid "good" movies, even if none of them are my favs. But I do love him for giving Anno a chance. Without him, who knows if we would have Gainax and Trigger, and a world without those would be a world where I don't watch anime, for sure. |
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thewiru said:
and who only directed a single TV anime, that being Mirai Shounen Conan.
and who only directed a single TV anime, that being Mirai Shounen Conan.
That's straight up malicious bullshit lol.
-He's credited as a director on more than Mirai Shounen Conan, as far as TV shows are concerned
-He worked on many TV shows as an episode director or key animator
-He's obviously know for founding the most famous anime studio ever and making movies, so if he has a problem with TV anime, he put his money where his mouth is.
-Even if he only worked on one anime in his whole life, that'd still be one more than you, so, according to your logic, he'd still be more of an authority than you and your ramblings.
Deathko said: -He's credited as a director on more than Mirai Shounen Conan, as far as TV shows are concerned Oh yeah, he was a director during 10 specific episoes of Lupin III: Part II, how could I forget? This definitely disproves my point in it's entirety! Deathko said: -He's obviously know for founding the most famous anime studio ever and making movies, so if he has a problem with TV anime, he put his money where his mouth is. And he's right for doing that. The thing is that he is against the logic that's in ALL TV anime for some decades now, yet people want to use him as a weapon thinking it would only hit the ones they dislike. That's like using Oswald Spengler and Julius Evola as arguments while thinking that the 80's were the apex of "trad". He's an authority in anime movies, but not on TV anime. Deathko said: he'd still be more of an authority than you and your ramblings. How many video essays do you see around here of people citing me as an authority figure? |
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On-topic: I agree with OP 100%. And while we're at it, let's talk about Martin Scorcese. Like, why is he seen as an authority on cinema? How dare he criticize the masterpiece compendium that is the MCU, and its effects on the filmmaking industry?... what do you mean his career spans 50 years? What has he contributed for the art form in all that time besides making a bunch of italian mobster movies? /s
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Orororurando said: On-topic: I agree with OP 100%. And while we're at it, let's talk about Martin Scorcese. Like, why is he seen as an authority on cinema? How dare he criticize the masterpiece compendium that is the MCU, and its effects on the filmmaking industry?... what do you mean his career spans 50 years? What has he contributed for the art form in all that time besides making a bunch of italian mobster movies? /s You joke, but this is actually a nice argument as to why we shouldn't reduce things to a single, monolithic category of "movies", "anime", etc If Scorsese's entire filmography was just art-house indie cinema, then indeed his criticism of blockbusters would be one from an outside perspective (Like Miyazaki's criticism on TV Anime). Granted, this isn't the case here. |
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@Deathko Yeah fair, if that is the point. Though yeah i don't get it. Future Boy Conan was really good...so if anything it's too bad Miyazaki didn't do more TV anime (which I prefer to films anyway). Like I get Wiru doesn't like him, I don't like him either. Still he was a very important creative and did make good shit....maybe not the best in the industry, in my opinion, and hardly best when compared to other film makers globally however, he is a big guy just like Tomino or Tezuka, or Anno. Some of the most important guys in the business.
BilboBaggins365 said: Like I get Wiru doesn't like him It's not about me liking or disliking him. What I dislike is the "weaponization" of Miyazaki as a spearhead by midwits. |
Lol OpenAis limited Ghibli run was an affront to Miyazaki himself.  |
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| He's like an oligarch... Like Jeff Bezos of anime, if you will. Ok, maybe that's not the best comparison. Considering that he's done quite a lot of actually good stuff, I'd say he's like Hans Zimmer of anime. Though, if we're talking about music alone, that title would go to Sawano Hiroyuki, but you get the point... |
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| Hayao Miyazaki treats fanservice like a cursed scroll sealed in a forbidden vault beneath Studio Ghibli. The man once said he hates otaku culture” and has openly criticized anime that leans on fanservice, sexualized tropes or pandering. His works are famously anti-fanservice. But in anime community people always complain about censorship yet treat Miyazaki as absolute authority? It doesn't make sense. |
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Hayao Miyazaki treats fanservice like a cursed scroll sealed in a forbidden vault beneath Studio Ghibli.
The man once said he hates otaku culture” and has openly criticized anime that leans on fanservice, sexualized tropes or pandering. His works are famously anti-fanservice.
But in anime community people always complain about censorship yet treat Miyazaki as absolute authority?
It doesn't make sense.
The man once said he hates otaku culture” and has openly criticized anime that leans on fanservice, sexualized tropes or pandering. His works are famously anti-fanservice.
But in anime community people always complain about censorship yet treat Miyazaki as absolute authority?
It doesn't make sense.
| Because of ghibli hype (which never ceases) and because everyone regards his movies as the best things ever made, helps that they were very influential classics. People in general like to have a person that is an authority figure in anything, especially when they want to give appeal to their opinions by associating it with that person ("look, i am right and my take is good, great miyazaki would agree with me so i am right/smart"). To hide themselves behind them (like other user said). Certain type of people especially love to use him as gospel and mighty representative (some even blow his quotes out of proportion and even make stuff up). Funny to see. I myself dont care about his takes and neither about his movies, though they do look good and are very well done in animation and art. @RainyEvenings There are now a bunch of people in the new anime community itself that fully support censorship, so it is not far fetched that they would look for someone to adorn their hysteria with. Those that complain about censorship dont hate miyazaki neither, so it is hard for him to have any kind of negative reputation overall, contributing to his major status as a very well liked personality even more |
INoLuvJun 23, 6:15 PM
| Because Studio Gibli is like the Disney of Japan in how well known it is. Also he is an old Asian man with a white beard so he falls into a cliche image of an old wise man. Bonus fact Miyazaki is who popularized loli with Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro. |
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@BilboBaggins365 I think Ghibli movies are solid "good" movies, even if none of them are my favs. But I do love him for giving Anno a chance. Without him, who knows if we would have Gainax and Trigger, and a world without those would be a world where I don't watch anime, for sure.
| @Deathko Anno professionally debuted on SDF Macross two years earlier though, which is not exactly a minor work. He would without a doubt have still shown up on DYRL and MZ23 (the highest grossing OVA of the 80s). And Gainax began as "Daicon Film" around 1980-1981 with half a dozen others, Anno wasn't the sole creator by any means, and their organization precedes Nausicaa by years a well. |
traed said: Bonus fact Miyazaki is who popularized loli with Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro. Clarisse is a loli? She doesn't look like one. |
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Zarutaku said: Clarisse is a loli? She doesn't look like one. Japanese Wiki is your friend https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ロリータ・コンプレックス アニメでは、『ルパン三世 カリオストロの城』（1979年）のヒロイン「クラリス」がロリコンアニメファンに熱烈な支持を受けた。アニメファンの間では、その製作者として宮崎駿が評判となり、アニメ雑誌『アニメージュ』（徳間書店）では数度にわたって特集が組まれ、ついには漫画『風の谷のナウシカ』（1982年 - 1994年）を連載させるに至るが、この「ロリコンアニメ」ブームは一部のアニメファンの間だけに留まり、「ロリコンアニメ」が社会現象となるのはOVA『くりいむレモン』（1984年）の発売以降となる。 ピンク映画では、日活が「にっかつロマンポルノ」作品として1983年に『ロリコンハウス おしめりジュンコ』（青木琴美主演）を製作したことがある。ゲームでは、エニックス（現・スクウェア・エニックス）が1983年に『ロリータ・シンドローム』というそのまんまのタイトルのエロゲーを出している。パッケージ曰く、「そ～ですぼくはロリコン」。つまり「ロリコン」という用語がそれくらいカジュアルに使われていた。 Excise the bad translation errors here and there I am not in mood to try to correct everything. In the anime, the heroine "Clarice" from "Lupin the Third: Cagliostro's Castle" (1979) received enthusiastic support from lolicon anime fans. Among anime fans, Hayao Miyazaki became popular as its producer, and the anime magazine "anime" (Tokuma Shoten) was featured several times, and finally the manga "Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind" (1982-1994) was serialized, but this "lolicon anime" boom remained only among some anime fans, and "lolicon anime" became a social phenomenon in the OVA "Kuriimu Lemon" (1984). In the pink movie, Nikkatsu produced "Lolicon House Junko Oshimeri" (starring Kotomi Aoki) in 1983 as a "Nikkatsu romantic" work. In the game, Enix (now Square Enix) released an erotic game with the same title called "Lolita Syndrome" in 1983. According to the package, "So~ I'm a lolicon". In other words, the term "lolicon" was used so casually. 米澤嘉博によれば、「ロリコン」の言葉がアニメファンの間で流行したのは、宮崎駿監督作品『ルパン三世 カリオストロの城』（1979年）のヒロインであるクラリスの人気が非常に高まったことによるものであり[27]、具体的には1980年に発行されたファンジン（同人誌）『クラリスマガジン』（さえぐさじゅん）がその発端であるという説もある According to Yoshihiro Yonezawa, the word "lolicon" became popular among anime fans because of the popularity of Hayao Miyazaki's work "Lupin the Third: Cagliostro's Castle" (1979)Clarice, the heroine, Specifically, there is a theory that it started in 1980 (doujinshi) "Clarice Magazine" (Jun Sagusa). ロリコンアニメの代表作として挙げられるのが、『ルパン三世 カリオストロの城』（1979年）である。ヒロインであるクラリスの人気は高く、アニメ雑誌『アニメージュ』の主催する1981年度（第4回）アニメグランプリでも4位に入賞した。その理由として、監督の宮崎駿は「"ロリコン"人気が集中している」ことを挙げている。他のクリエーターが受賞の喜びを語る中、宮崎のコメントは渋く、当時の若い人は「ロリコンを"あこがれ"の意味で使っている」「あこがれを遊びにしている」「恥じらいがない」それゆえ「ロリコンを口で言う男は嫌い」とのこと[44]。ちなみに宮崎自身は思春期に『白蛇伝』の白娘が好きだったとのこと。 One of the representative works of lolicon anime is "Lupin the Third: Cagliostro's Castle" (1979). The heroine, Clarice, is very popular, and she won 4th place in the 1981 (4th) anime Grand Prix sponsored by the anime magazine "anime magazine". As a reason, director Hayao Miyazaki cites that "the popularity of 'lolicon' is concentrated." While other creators talked about the joy of winning the award, Miyazaki's comment was harsh, and young people at the time said, "I use lolicon in the sense of 'longing'", "I am playing with longing", "I am not ashamed", so "I don't like men who say lolicon with their mouths". By the way, Miyazaki himself liked the white girl of "The Legend of the White Snake" during his adolescence. Anywayyyy. Loli was technically the precursor to the bishoujo so I think for some time the terms were interchangeable. |
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| it's because the former CEO of Pixar john lasseter is good friends with hayao miyazaki and likes his movies. That's probably why Ghibli movies are the only anime movies that get oscar nominations. https://ghibli.fandom.com/wiki/Lasseter-San,_Arigato! |
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