Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka V: Houjou no Megami-hen Episode 7 Discussion
Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? (light novel)
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| Nice to see Ryuu again. She recovered from her blow and even remembers Bell! Good for her. It's also noticable that she has an important relationship with Freya. Speaking of which, it looks like there's more resistance against Freya. Thrilling episode imo, considering the circumstances, and what Bell is still going through. Seeing "Syr" back again is kinda disturbing imo. |
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| Looks like Freia is still looking for those whose memory wasn't altered but will things really work out that way. Ryu doesn't seem to be under her effect even when she tried to apply it only on her and Freya is having a very hard time with Bell even if she is trying to break him. That there are the ones who simply don't speak out. Hestia is on the move tho and so are a few others. |
| damn they makin me feel bad for freya, good job. ryuu really got baited out that easily, but at least she got spared. also, can we talk about how jc staff has been continuously doing a great job with danmachi?!? they deserve praise for that. hope it continues smoothly.   |
damn that's kinda hot tbh. she knows ryuu really loves bell, awesome threesome.
| Andromeda "We need to be careful. The city is taken." Ryuu -rushes in- "Ryuuuuuuuuuu Liiiion!" This catgirl beating need to stop. Poor Anya. |
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| Imagine charming an entire city just to have the person you love still remembering the person that you've used to be. Freya really discarded a lot of things in her pursuit of bell, but Bell letting her know that she could still pick them up probably gave her comfort. |
The_TraineeNov 14, 7:35 AM
| Its good that Asfi and Ryu managed to escape the city before the spell hit. Its unfortunate but given Freya's intellgence she wouldn't allow any safe spaces within her new domain. While Bell is making great usage of his time with Freya familia training seeing him get wrecked really isn't pretty. But can't wait to see the firewood be lit and Freya's dream vanquished. |
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| Yeah, Freya has just proved herself to be the MOST annoying character in this show. It was one thing with the whole charm the whole town, but her MESSING WITH RYUU??? Fuck no. I need this girl dead now. |
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| Cute Freya stuff again, been loving her more and more. Get wrekt everyone else. |
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| This episode felt really cheap. JC Staff inconsistent production values at it again. Disappointing. @Sheppard3rd I do not want to spoil anything, but all the people not charmed have something in common. It's pretty evident what it is. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| There are more of two persons that scapes of the spell!!! kekeke |
| hopefully the action episodes shows up soon im starting to get annoyed by freyas gaslighting even though she is sexy hot |
| Seeing Asfi and Ryu again after they were successful in getting out of Orario was nice, I wasn't expecting them to dive right back in so soon. I don't think they could've done much more in preparation beforehand, but either way, Ryu getting easily overwhelmed yet again is frustrating. The one crumb of comfort is Freya having sympathy for Ryu so she won't need to "defile" her. On another note, Anya wasn't effected by Freya's charm, but her attempts to make her friends see sense didn't work out. In the end, she was left with mental scarring after Freya used her Syr disguise to mess with her head, then had her brother lash out on her and warned that her tavern would be destroyed if she stepped out of line again. Another reason to hate that scumbag more. If there was two rays of hope, if was Mama Mia not being effected by Freya's charm and that Bell, despite Freya's pampering with him one-on-one, still uttered out "Syr", which shows that Freya's ultimate goal is thankfully still out of her reach for now. This was a pretty good episode and I'm happy that J.C Staff is still doing a nice job on the production values with the odd flashes of smooth fighting animation here and there. I won't deny that I do want to see the turnaround soon and have the pieces in place for Freya's plan to fail. The sooner that happens, the sooner she and her Familia will get their deserved comeuppance. |
| Very realistic depiction of emotions. And I love the art style this season |
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| That seemed really uncharacteristic of Ryu. I would think she would see that the Cat female is not charmed and then maneuver to speak to her in secret to gain information on how to proceed. This rushing out impulsively and irrationally is against the character they setup for Ryu in previous seasons. I am really so disappointed in this season, it doesn't feel like the previous anime I am used to. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
| Poor Anya, she has nothing to do with anything, stop bullying the little goofy ahh cat 😭😭😭 Freya is so weird, like, she is evil af and doesn't care to shit on everyone to get what she wants, but at the same time she doesn't want to hurt others, the way she is acting is interesting. And the scene at the end where she "gets mad" at Bell for talking about "other girl" came out of nowhere and was funny af lmaooo Still, Orario must have the lamest gods ever, they all should be the same in terms of power and authority, yet there is Freya, the goddess of love, and is able to literally really in a way not even the other gods can resist it without being prepared lol |
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~ Btw, cry about it.  |
| I wish bell would grow a spine and give Freya a good wienering 3/5 |
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| People are so porn rotted that they’re praising Freya for essentially grooming and trying to sexually assault Bell because she’s attractive. It’s actually sickening. This entire episode was so disturbing for a variety of reasons, but most of all for the fact that it’s clear now Freya doesn’t even see Bell as a human being, but purely an object of her sexual and romantic desires. Like the audacity to suggest she and Ryu could “share” and have a baby with him without his consent is CRAZY. That was one of the most disturbing scenes I’ve seen in a while. Again, people gloss over it cause she’s hot and male fantasy and all that, but it’s gross. On the bright side.. it does seem like Freya in her own fucked up way cares about Ryu since she refused to put her under the spell and was actually upset later that night. Idk though, she’s insane. It’s good that Hestia isn’t alone though and now we have 4-5 different people who remember the true history so I wonder how they’re gonna organise and take down Freya. I feel like Hedin might join in to help out, looks like he not fully onboard with all this either. Heart also breaks for Anya cause she been getting beat like a damn rag doll in this season man. |
Marinate1016Nov 14, 3:21 PM
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Reply to casilo
@Farabeuf "inconsistent production values" ??? I think we not watch the same anime
| @casilo Maybe not. I'm referring to Danmachi. Season 5, episode 7. Which anime are you watching? JC Staff is not a very good studio. They have very uneven performance with the source material. Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's meh. That's the kind of studio they are. Unfortunate because the light novels are good and very entertaining. |
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| Good to see Asfi and Ryuu again, even though it ended up being a disaster. Freya is really confident that Bell will break soon. Interesting how Syr still keeps getting brought up. Feel sorry for Anya. There better be something incredible written on the piece of paper to make it out of this. |
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| Yo ion even watch bro like that but somebody needs to put Bell on some "game is game" type shit, fuck man Freya is literally throwing it at him, does he not watch the ed, he's Takemichi levels bitchin rn haha. |
Kamquat420Nov 14, 2:35 PM
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| Freya fam are the worst scum possible. I hope they get wiped out, there is no forgiving their actions. |
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| this is becoming painful to watch, but not in the edge of your seat kind of way, more like this all feels contrived and pointless and is going on for too long. |
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| The Freya fuckery continues, unfortunately not the Freya fuckening which could be happening but Bell is lacking lol. Really tho this is some great stuff, some folks hate seeing this kind of plot go on for so long, but for me I’m okay with it mainly because I know Freya’s plan will eventually fail, and it will feel so good when it does, and for the record I’m not a LN reader, but I mean just look at the OP lol, also I doubt DanMachi ends with Freya screwing over all of her competition and winning Bell. In the mean time tho, they are making me a feel a bit for Freya, of course she’s 200% in the wrong but my feelings about her are not simply “Freya bad, she needs to die”, also seeing her turn Syr mode off and on is funny lol. Saddest part of the episode tho was the beatdown of Anya and Ryu screwing up and diving in to save her, ruining her stealth in the process, so now it’s just Asfi on her own now. It was funny tho how Freya as Syr suggested sharing Bell, good lord can you imagine lol, I wonder if she really would have gone though with that if Ryu had agreed. But I was happy to see Ryu resist and choose to not believe that Freya is Syr, even if it is true, personally I think Freya is lying that it was simply a game to her, she clearly cares for Ryu and probably the others at the tavern, they will definitely play role going further into the arc, especially since Mia isn’t charmed from the looks of it. |
| Bell called Freya as Syr. He definitely has the "intuition", but what kind? |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Freya and her familia just get worse and worse, just when I thought I couldn't hate them more they up the stakes by messing with Lion and Anya Kitty San who got thwacked hard by her brainwashed all brawn no brain brother! Grrr grinding my teeth so hard, hoping things will turn around for Bell. |
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| Better episode this week. Only one cringe scene and no need to start ranting and raving at the tv. Bell continues to be a poor excuse for a man, but this week we learned what a miserable cur Freya is. I’m hope Hestia, Hermes, Ryu and the rest get their shit together soon. |
Reply to Marinate1016
People are so porn rotted that they’re praising Freya for essentially grooming and trying to sexually assault Bell because she’s attractive. It’s actually sickening.
This entire episode was so disturbing for a variety of reasons, but most of all for the fact that it’s clear now Freya doesn’t even see Bell as a human being, but purely an object of her sexual and romantic desires. Like the audacity to suggest she and Ryu could “share” and have a baby with him without his consent is CRAZY. That was one of the most disturbing scenes I’ve seen in a while. Again, people gloss over it cause she’s hot and male fantasy and all that, but it’s gross.
On the bright side.. it does seem like Freya in her own fucked up way cares about Ryu since she refused to put her under the spell and was actually upset later that night. Idk though, she’s insane. It’s good that Hestia isn’t alone though and now we have 4-5 different people who remember the true history so I wonder how they’re gonna organise and take down Freya. I feel like Hedin might join in to help out, looks like he not fully onboard with all this either.
Heart also breaks for Anya cause she been getting beat like a damn rag doll in this season man.
This entire episode was so disturbing for a variety of reasons, but most of all for the fact that it’s clear now Freya doesn’t even see Bell as a human being, but purely an object of her sexual and romantic desires. Like the audacity to suggest she and Ryu could “share” and have a baby with him without his consent is CRAZY. That was one of the most disturbing scenes I’ve seen in a while. Again, people gloss over it cause she’s hot and male fantasy and all that, but it’s gross.
On the bright side.. it does seem like Freya in her own fucked up way cares about Ryu since she refused to put her under the spell and was actually upset later that night. Idk though, she’s insane. It’s good that Hestia isn’t alone though and now we have 4-5 different people who remember the true history so I wonder how they’re gonna organise and take down Freya. I feel like Hedin might join in to help out, looks like he not fully onboard with all this either.
Heart also breaks for Anya cause she been getting beat like a damn rag doll in this season man.
| @Marinate1016 Yeah bro I'm 100% with you. Sure Freya is hot, really hot. But she's crazy and for the streets. I was sorta almost on board with the Ryu thing thou, Ryu is best girl so I'll always support Ryu x Bell... But like Ryu wouldn't still be best girl if she agreed with that proposal so of course she's best girl and rejects that craziness. I also really enjoyed how Bell noticed how Freya was acting and ended up being the one messing with her conviction of what she was doing without even knowing he was, Freya is playing a dangerous game since Bell has the ability to affect her mentality just as she can affect his. Anya I feel so absolutely terrible for this season too, it's not even just she's not just getting attacked physically but mentally & just to double it down and make it worse her own brother is one of the ones doing it too. I kinda hope someone kills Allen this season, you don't treat family that way. At the very least he deserve to lose an arm or a leg permanently. |
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Reply to casilo
@Farabeuf So u just dont like they cut contents in anime right ? But that is not production values lol. I agree this is not the best adaptation for LN but it still have good animation throughout
| @casilo No it doesn't. Look at the scene when Bell comes into the room with Freya. Their faces are borderline not drawn at all until they get the close ups. And I could write dozens of examples but I don't want to bore people to bits. It's ok. JC Staff has been like this all the way. And no, cut content doesn't bother. All LN adaptations have it. It's what you choose to cut where it gets iffy. Have a nice day. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Reply to casilo
@Farabeuf I think u just nitpicking atp. The scence u've mention is a far angle so have a bit off model is pretty normal in anime. I could also write dozens example of good drawings in this ep
| @casilo No doubt you could. That doesn't change the fact that JC Staff is an average studio, that rarely lifts the original material to higher levels. It's a tragedy for Oomori that his LN's didn't get an adaptation by let's say Ufo-Table, Bones or MAPPA. It is what it is. And it's ok to disagree with me. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Seems like it's gonna take a while before everything returns to normal. Freya seeing Ryuu as a friend is interesting to see. |
 Never ending plan to watch list... |
| along with the arc itself, really not a fan of Ryuu getting nerfed in this arc compared to the previous one |
Reply to TheJFamilia
ejleon said:
That seemed really uncharacteristic of Ryu. I would think she would see that the Cat female is not charmed and then maneuver to speak to her in secret to gain information on how to proceed. This rushing out impulsively and irrationally is against the character they setup for Ryu in previous seasons.
I am really so disappointed in this season, it doesn't feel like the previous anime I am used to.
That seemed really uncharacteristic of Ryu. I would think she would see that the Cat female is not charmed and then maneuver to speak to her in secret to gain information on how to proceed. This rushing out impulsively and irrationally is against the character they setup for Ryu in previous seasons.
I am really so disappointed in this season, it doesn't feel like the previous anime I am used to.
Ryu rushed in to save Bors in S4 from the Jaggornout. Why would this be different? she was afraid that they would kill her friend. I think that many would rush in as well.
| @TheJFamilia It seems like your comment is more focused on the surface level similarity of “she rushed in”, but would it not be better to considering the context of what happened in each seasons’ story? Season 4 The first situation is Adventurers fighting together in the dungeon, against basically an unknown enemy, one that is incredibly strong with anti-magic capability, but this one is not controlling people’s minds, Bors is not listening to Bell or Ryu though. Ryu had fought this creature before with her familia and she has greatly increased her levels / abilities / skills over time, so she was able to save Bors in time, not risking her own life in doing so, and then she was able to keep fighting on. -my comment- If I think about it, more relatable situations in season 4 to Season 5, are … — when Ryu decided to irrationally “sacrifice” herself in the Dungeon Arena, knowing it was a suicide — when Ryu irrationally decided to fight the Juggernaut on her own, after Bell was unconscious, knowing again that it was suicide … excusing it as “to save Bell” and “that she deserved to die”, but she was saved by Bell both times, with the help of her former familia sisters spirits too, convincing her that she should live and even go after Bell whom she loved. Two examples in Season 4 of how this new Ryu was acting, uncharacteristic of the patient mature noble kind levelheaded intelligent wise experienced powerful strong brave stoic elf they had setup in previous seasons, the Adventurer Elf that Bell looked up to and respected. It seemed like just an “plot point” to force that arch and to claim that Ryu had some kind of “character growth,” but all it did was go backwards, making her look worse, not better, than she was. Season 5 The second situation is no one fighting against the current enemy, a goddess with “Charm” that is controlling everyone’s minds (except a few), which no one really knows how to resist or overcome. Hermes’ quick thinking saved Hestia and Ryu/Andromeda, so they would not be charmed, hoping that when they recovered, they could do whatever possible to investigate and figure out the best way to approach the situation and to save people. Andromeda & Ryu are supposed to be a team on a secret reconnaissance mission to gain information and report back to each other, just like Hermes intended, so they can work together, which is the best option currently for them and the others. But this new Ryu — knowing that she had no chance of fighting against Freya & Allen together or to resist the “charm” — unthinkingly, emotionally, and impulsively rushed in with a suicide attack, not helping Anya all, giving up on her secret mission, leaving Andromeda all alone, allowing herself to be tempted captured imprisoned, which does not help anyone at all, least of all Bell, whom she loves. Ryu knew that Freya was the enemy who took Bell and is controlling everyone, so the goddess was not to be trusted, meaning that in this situation, it is less likely that Freya would just kill Allen’s sister, and more likely that it was a trap to capture Ryu, by trying to bait out her out. -my comment- I think the pre-season 4/5 Ryu would have acted very differently and read the situation better, being patient strong wiser to think about the bigger picture, but this post-season 4 / season 5 Ryu acts completely different, nothing like her former self. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Reply to Gl0rp
ejleon said:
@TheJFamilia
It seems like your comment is more focused on the surface level similarity of “she rushed in”, but would it not be better to considering the context of what happened in each seasons’ story?
Season 4
The first situation is Adventurers fighting together in the dungeon, against basically an unknown enemy, one that is incredibly strong with anti-magic capability, but this one is not controlling people’s minds, Bors is not listening to Bell or Ryu though.
Ryu had fought this creature before with her familia and she has greatly increased her levels / abilities / skills over time, so she was able to save Bors in time, not risking her own life in doing so, and then she was able to keep fighting on.
-my comment-
If I think about it, more relatable situations in season 4 to Season 5, are …
— when Ryu decided to irrationally “sacrifice” herself in the Dungeon Arena, knowing it was a suicide
— when Ryu irrationally decided to fight the Juggernaut on her own, after Bell was unconscious, knowing again that it was suicide
… excusing it as “to save Bell” and “that she deserved to die”, but she was saved by Bell both times, with the help of her former familia sisters spirits too, convincing her that she should live and even go after Bell whom she loved.
Two examples in Season 4 of how this new Ryu was acting, uncharacteristic of the patient mature noble kind levelheaded intelligent wise experienced powerful strong brave stoic elf they had setup in previous seasons, the Adventurer Elf that Bell looked up to and respected.
It seemed like just an “plot point” to force that arch and to claim that Ryu had some kind of “character growth,” but all it did was go backwards, making her look worse, not better, than she was.
Season 5
The second situation is no one fighting against the current enemy, a goddess with “Charm” that is controlling everyone’s minds (except a few), which no one really knows how to resist or overcome.
Hermes’ quick thinking saved Hestia and Ryu/Andromeda, so they would not be charmed, hoping that when they recovered, they could do whatever possible to investigate and figure out the best way to approach the situation and to save people.
Andromeda & Ryu are supposed to be a team on a secret reconnaissance mission to gain information and report back to each other, just like Hermes intended, so they can work together, which is the best option currently for them and the others.
But this new Ryu — knowing that she had no chance of fighting against Freya & Allen together or to resist the “charm” — unthinkingly, emotionally, and impulsively rushed in with a suicide attack, not helping Anya all, giving up on her secret mission, leaving Andromeda all alone, allowing herself to be tempted captured imprisoned, which does not help anyone at all, least of all Bell, whom she loves.
Ryu knew that Freya was the enemy who took Bell and is controlling everyone, so the goddess was not to be trusted, meaning that in this situation, it is less likely that Freya would just kill Allen’s sister, and more likely that it was a trap to capture Ryu, by trying to bait out her out.
-my comment-
I think the pre-season 4/5 Ryu would have acted very differently and read the situation better, being patient strong wiser to think about the bigger picture, but this post-season 4 / season 5 Ryu acts completely different, nothing like her former self.
@TheJFamilia
It seems like your comment is more focused on the surface level similarity of “she rushed in”, but would it not be better to considering the context of what happened in each seasons’ story?
Season 4
The first situation is Adventurers fighting together in the dungeon, against basically an unknown enemy, one that is incredibly strong with anti-magic capability, but this one is not controlling people’s minds, Bors is not listening to Bell or Ryu though.
Ryu had fought this creature before with her familia and she has greatly increased her levels / abilities / skills over time, so she was able to save Bors in time, not risking her own life in doing so, and then she was able to keep fighting on.
-my comment-
If I think about it, more relatable situations in season 4 to Season 5, are …
— when Ryu decided to irrationally “sacrifice” herself in the Dungeon Arena, knowing it was a suicide
— when Ryu irrationally decided to fight the Juggernaut on her own, after Bell was unconscious, knowing again that it was suicide
… excusing it as “to save Bell” and “that she deserved to die”, but she was saved by Bell both times, with the help of her former familia sisters spirits too, convincing her that she should live and even go after Bell whom she loved.
Two examples in Season 4 of how this new Ryu was acting, uncharacteristic of the patient mature noble kind levelheaded intelligent wise experienced powerful strong brave stoic elf they had setup in previous seasons, the Adventurer Elf that Bell looked up to and respected.
It seemed like just an “plot point” to force that arch and to claim that Ryu had some kind of “character growth,” but all it did was go backwards, making her look worse, not better, than she was.
Season 5
The second situation is no one fighting against the current enemy, a goddess with “Charm” that is controlling everyone’s minds (except a few), which no one really knows how to resist or overcome.
Hermes’ quick thinking saved Hestia and Ryu/Andromeda, so they would not be charmed, hoping that when they recovered, they could do whatever possible to investigate and figure out the best way to approach the situation and to save people.
Andromeda & Ryu are supposed to be a team on a secret reconnaissance mission to gain information and report back to each other, just like Hermes intended, so they can work together, which is the best option currently for them and the others.
But this new Ryu — knowing that she had no chance of fighting against Freya & Allen together or to resist the “charm” — unthinkingly, emotionally, and impulsively rushed in with a suicide attack, not helping Anya all, giving up on her secret mission, leaving Andromeda all alone, allowing herself to be tempted captured imprisoned, which does not help anyone at all, least of all Bell, whom she loves.
Ryu knew that Freya was the enemy who took Bell and is controlling everyone, so the goddess was not to be trusted, meaning that in this situation, it is less likely that Freya would just kill Allen’s sister, and more likely that it was a trap to capture Ryu, by trying to bait out her out.
-my comment-
I think the pre-season 4/5 Ryu would have acted very differently and read the situation better, being patient strong wiser to think about the bigger picture, but this post-season 4 / season 5 Ryu acts completely different, nothing like her former self.
Actually I'm a little surprised people are bewildered about how Ryu is acting. In the previous season she was scared by her experiences so her emotions were supressed to avoid getting hurt again. During the previous season her mind started to heal so she could feel more emotions and therefore started to act more on them instead of cold calculation.
Basic psychology and character growth really.
| @Gl0rp As a note before I respond, I and my family have had some the worst experiences in our lives with so called "psychologists" and "psychology", so I don't subscribe to anything analyzed in that fashion. You are acting like she had something to feel scared / guilty about so she suppressed her feelings, but that does not follow her character in the early seasons. The other familia were cold blooded murderers that caused a level 5 catastrophe just to wipe out Ryu's entire familia, so that other familia deserved to be wiped off the face of that world, without any mercy. Ryu had nothing to feel guilty ashamed worried concerned scared about, she had no reason to suppress her feelings, she did the absolute just and right thing in getting revenge for her fallen familia. Now in that light, Ryu did not seem "emotionally suppressed" in the first seasons, but showed maturity caution intelligence wisdom cunning with strategic and fighting experience, there was nothing "wrong" with her character and nothing to "fix". So to have such a strong character, who served as an example for others to follow, suddenly become an emotional and mental wreck, losing all her fortitude, and to feel like she deserved to die, when she did nothing wrong, makes no logical sense at all. Season 4 & 5 have almost completely ruined Ryu's former character and they have obliterated Syr, another good character from earlier seasons. These last two seasons have been kind of disappointing. |
ejleonNov 15, 1:30 PM
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