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Phoebe3315 said: I just realized...  The metal bolted to Biba's shoulder indicates he was very likely bitten by a Kabane and managed to stop the virus similarly to how Ikoma did. I think maybe "naturally made" Kabaneri just burn their life force with black blood while "artificially made" Kabaneri can become a Nue, probably due to something special the scientists did to the red blood. I bet what the main scientist guy said about only females being able to turn into Nue was a generalization because the only female Kabaneri he knew included Horobi and Mumei, while the only male Kabaneri he knew were Ikoma and Biba. The line about male Kabaneri being rare was also probably a generalization which really meant surviving a Kabane bite is a lot harder than surviving a red blood injection. I'm assuming Biba didn't make more Kabaneri besides Horobi and Mumei because he only needed two; together they could take out the toughest Kabane, and for his revenge he needed one to destroy Iwato Station and the other to destroy Kongokaku. Felt like they took inspiration from Claymore a little lol. Females turning to gigantic Nue while males just turns into mutated aliens. |
LGrey said: Just finished watching the whole series. I may have missing a scene or something, since it seems that 11 pages later, nobody brought this up: How did the blue stone ended up in Mumei's right hand? I mean, the last time I saw it, the dying Takumi took it and the stone stayed there (leading me to think something like "oh hey maybe we'll have a chubby kabaneri for the crew). Did Mumei pick it from Takumi? I didn't remember seeing something like that, nor if it was implied. After "killing" Ikoma, she's looking at Takumi, and we can see that he has the stone. She must have took it at this moment, because in the beginning of the next episode (ep11), where everyone is there, Takumi doesn't have the stone in his hand. |
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LGrey said: Yeah, it was implied; throughout episode 11, Mumei's hand is closed.Did Mumei pick it from Takumi? I didn't remember seeing something like that, nor if it was implied. |
| Trash. I've seen it a lot, a girl who was quite peculiar at the beginning, slowly regress into your typical damsel in distress who's a victim of someone else, and then just continue regressing/progressing into that role with no real reason at all but to fit the narrative of the story, and that is who Mumei essentially is. The same thing happened to Ikoma as well. The voice acting for both leads are really lacking, and from their MAL page, it seems that they're quite new to the industry, it's no wonder I felt that way. Ikoma's voice actor shouldn't be that bad though imo, he has done quite a few series and is still this bad? The tone of the series does not fit what the series was trying to be, resulted in this mess of a series that brought quite a few cringes. Season 2? Hope not, until the writers properly figure out what they wanted to do with this series. |
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| Oh nice, Ikoma is a JEDI now! Use the force! (it looked cool at least) Biba was a Kabaneri... I take back what I said about him infiltrating the place solo. He was never at any risk. No surprise Mumei is back. I guess no surprise Ikoma is saved too. Happy ending. :-/ 7/10 overall. Intense action all the way through. Plus, badass loli Mumei helped too. |
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| I know it's really late to be posting here but I just felt like saying my 2cents since I was pretty active on this forum during certain ep and did try to defend the show. I called for more time- more time was given, and I have to say at best this show is a 7. I liked the concept and I think it had actually presented some good ideas, that being said the show was better in it's first half where they worked towards the goal of gaining the trust of the people on the train and then final traveling to the shogun's fortress. As soon as the show introduced Biba I think it went downhill from there. I don't think Biba and the whole Shogun plot was necessarily a bad one in concept/theory, but the execution of it all was very poor. I want to credit this poor execution to the general lack of ep. Part of the reason why I have been MIA on the forums latley is because all the shows I liked ended and I was left with the shows that felt like a chore to finish and honestly, after episode 9, finishing the last 3 felt like a chore. Many of the emotional moments did not have much impact because almost no time was given to most of these extra characters. Only death I really felt upset about was Takumi's, and that's mainly because of the ammt of time I saw him attempt to survive in this universe. I also found some of the jumps they made from the wazatori to the Nue and Black Ghost to be a bit ridiculous. I would have proffered more of a gradual evolution as opposed to zombies and then zombies that shoot lasers. All in all I did honestly like the concept and enjoy things up until Biba was introduced, I'm just kind of disappointed with the way it all ended. Then again most animes just can't pull off a complex plot AND worldbuilding AND character development in just 12 episodes. |
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| That was... pretty bad. |
| Pretty solid ending if you ask me, everything went a bit quick at the end but that was a bit expected! That said I did like the combination and how well they performed the story development and action! While it would've been a bit better to have a bad ending for more impact, it is still quite lovely to see a happy ending like this. While there is still be room for a sequel, the way they finished it off was pretty solid to stop everything here so all in all I must say that I sure liked marathoning this anime, it had a great portion of action and a great story on top of it! |
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| Kind of didnt make sense ever since biba appeared. Never explained why his father would abandon him, a lot of things didnt make sense. Biba was out of character as well. Why would he give ikoma the white blood? Biba was evil until ikoma shot him, so biba decided to give the white blood. What? |
PrevE said: The Shogun abandoned Biba because he was terrified of him. In episode 11 it explained how one day the shogun accidentally struck out at Biba because of fear and grew to fear him more and more. So eventually, he sent Biba out to lead the army against the Kabane and left him to die (also, he used this as an opportunity to build the stations so the cowards could hide instead of fight - this is part of the reason Biba hates the stations so much).Kind of didnt make sense ever since biba appeared. Never explained why his father would abandon him, a lot of things didnt make sense. Biba was out of character as well. Why would he give ikoma the white blood? Biba was evil until ikoma shot him, so biba decided to give the white blood. What? When Biba was fighting Ikoma, he was already impressed with Ikoma's fearlessness and willingness to die for Mumei. So after Ikoma caught him being a total coward sneaking up on him after the black blood made him blind, Biba became frustrated at his inferiority and wanted to fight fairly against Ikoma again (so he shoots the white blood into Ikoma and tells him "Get up! I'm still standing! Fight, Ikoma!"). |
Phoebe3315 said: PrevE said: The Shogun abandoned Biba because he was terrified of him. In episode 11 it explained how one day the shogun accidentally struck out at Biba because of fear and grew to fear him more and more. So eventually, he sent Biba out to lead the army against the Kabane and left him to die (also, he used this as an opportunity to build the stations so the cowards could hide instead of fight - this is part of the reason Biba hates the stations so much).Kind of didnt make sense ever since biba appeared. Never explained why his father would abandon him, a lot of things didnt make sense. Biba was out of character as well. Why would he give ikoma the white blood? Biba was evil until ikoma shot him, so biba decided to give the white blood. What? When Biba was fighting Ikoma, he was already impressed with Ikoma's fearlessness and willingness to die for Mumei. So after Ikoma caught him being a total coward sneaking up on him after the black blood made him blind, Biba became frustrated at his inferiority and wanted to fight fairly against Ikoma again (so he shoots the white blood into Ikoma and tells him "Get up! I'm still standing! Fight, Ikoma!"). Thing is, they never explained why his father feared him. And the whole thing about fighting ikoma fairly was out of character for him,a sociopath. |
PrevE said: ...His father feared him because his father was a coward and thought Biba would try to get back at him for the "accidental" lashing out. It's not something that really needs to be clearly explained because that's a pretty easy assumption.Phoebe3315 said: Thing is, they never explained why his father feared him.The Shogun abandoned Biba because he was terrified of him. In episode 11 it explained how one day the shogun accidentally struck out at Biba because of fear and grew to fear him more and more. So eventually, he sent Biba out to lead the army against the Kabane and left him to die (also, he used this as an opportunity to build the stations so the cowards could hide instead of fight - this is part of the reason Biba hates the stations so much). When Biba was fighting Ikoma, he was already impressed with Ikoma's fearlessness and willingness to die for Mumei. So after Ikoma caught him being a total coward sneaking up on him after the black blood made him blind, Biba became frustrated at his inferiority and wanted to fight fairly against Ikoma again (so he shoots the white blood into Ikoma and tells him "Get up! I'm still standing! Fight, Ikoma!"). And the whole thing about fighting ikoma fairly was out of character for him,a sociopath. Wanting to fight Ikoma fairly wasn't out of character for him because he's not just a sociopath. Biba's whole character is centered around a hatred of fear, so when he's caught fearfully trying to kill the fearless Ikoma (who was suddenly put at a big disadvantage), he realizes that's not how he wants to fight and feels ashamed. |
Phoebe3315Jul 20, 2016 7:30 PM
Phoebe3315 said: PrevE said: ...His father feared him because his father was a coward and thought Biba would try to get back at him for the "accidental" lashing out. It's not something that really needs to be clearly explained because that's a pretty easy assumption.Thing is, they never explained why his father feared him. And the whole thing about fighting ikoma fairly was out of character for him,a sociopath. Wanting to fight Ikoma fairly wasn't out of character for him because he's not just a sociopath. Biba's whole character is centered around a hatred of fear, so when he's caught fearfully trying to kill the fearless Ikoma (who was suddenly put at a big disadvantage), he realizes that's not how he wants to fight and feels ashamed. Nope, his father lashed out at biba because he feared biba. Meaning that he was afraid of biba way before thay happened. Remember how his father said something along the lines of "it wasnt me, it was fear who did this". Fine ill give you that, but that was still weird for a sociopath that had no qualms about slaughtering thousands of innocents to start suddenly wanting a fair duel. |
PrevE said: The presentation of that scene makes it seem like his father lashed out not knowing who was there, so he didn't do it because it was Biba, he did it because OH MY GOD, SOMEONE IS SNEAKING UP ON ME IN MY ROOM! Directly before the scene, Biba mentions that there were secret feuds surrounding the Shogunate's throne, so we can assume his father thought someone was maybe trying to kill him to take over as ruler. Based on that, it's reasonable to assume if his father did fear Biba before the lashing out incident, it was just because he was extremely paranoid and thought Biba might want the throne early.Nope, his father lashed out at biba because he feared biba. Meaning that he was afraid of biba way before thay happened. Remember how his father said something along the lines of "it wasnt me, it was fear who did this". |
Phoebe3315 said: yep and all that is an assumption that wasnt clarified in the animePrevE said: The presentation of that scene makes it seem like his father lashed out not knowing who was there, so he didn't do it because it was Biba, he did it because OH MY GOD, SOMEONE IS SNEAKING UP ON ME IN MY ROOM! Directly before the scene, Biba mentions that there were secret feuds surrounding the Shogunate's throne, so we can assume his father thought someone was maybe trying to kill him to take over as ruler. Based on that, it's reasonable to assume if his father did fear Biba before the lashing out incident, it was just because he was extremely paranoid and thought Biba might want the throne early.Nope, his father lashed out at biba because he feared biba. Meaning that he was afraid of biba way before thay happened. Remember how his father said something along the lines of "it wasnt me, it was fear who did this". |
PrevE said: Maybe amazon's subtitles make it sound a bit awkward, but Biba basically says "My father was a cowardly man. Because of secret feuds surrounding the Shogunate's throne, the lights were turned off suddenly" before it cuts to a scene where his father is swinging his sword around in darkness. When the candle lights up, his father looks at the blood on his hands and seems genuinely confused/surprised. That strongly implies his father didn't know it was Biba who was there, so it only makes sense to think his father struck out because he feared someone in the dark who he thought was probably about to attack (as opposed to Biba). So...it doesn't matter whether or not the Shogun feared Biba before this (although, there's no real evidence suggesting he did).Phoebe3315 said: yep and all that is an assumption that wasnt clarified in the animeThe presentation of that scene makes it seem like his father lashed out not knowing who was there, so he didn't do it because it was Biba, he did it because OH MY GOD, SOMEONE IS SNEAKING UP ON ME IN MY ROOM! Directly before the scene, Biba mentions that there were secret feuds surrounding the Shogunate's throne, so we can assume his father thought someone was maybe trying to kill him to take over as ruler. Based on that, it's reasonable to assume if his father did fear Biba before the lashing out incident, it was just because he was extremely paranoid and thought Biba might want the throne early. |
Phoebe3315Jul 22, 2016 10:56 PM
| At least this anime has a wrap up ending. Decent anime 7.5/10 The princess maybe had the biggest development :> |
| Animation and music might've been the only highlights of this show. The story was really bad, and its progression relied heavily on the stupidity its characters :/ |
| If it weren't for the visual and audio presentation this would have completely dismissed in a instant.Either way its still a dime a dozen and quite forgettable after watching it. Interesting to see that they pulled a Zankyou no Terror and turned the series for the worse by introducing just 1 character and switching the spotlight towards him,its always fun to see that happening. |
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TheFroDoc said: I thought it was a pretty alright show. I preferred when it was focused on just survival. Biba kinda ruined the show for me. Yeah pretty much how i feel also. |
| 5/10 will watch 2nd second but wont hope 2nd season will actually happen. |
| Eh, this was pretty stupid but at least (kind of) entertaining. 6/10 |
| The ending was "meh", not the greates ending of all time, kinda cheesy but at least it was a happy ending. So Biba injected the white blood serum to Ikoma's body and in the end Ikoma turned back into a human again or in this case kabaneri. The first 3 episodes were great but after that the plot is kinda messed up, would be great if the story more focus on eliminating Kabane not human conflict. Overall score 7/10, i doubt there will be another season but i'm looking forward for AoT season 2 |
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| oh well, it ended. That was pretty chaotic right there. It has been that way since episode one. The ending felt rushed and I couldn't process my mind to even care what the hell was happening. This series pretty much lost its potential to be great. Biba's introduction and his team pretty much dragged its potential down. Biba as main villain is not that interesting and intriguing for a villain. I feel indifferent to all the characters which is sad coz I need to be liking at least one to get myself really going over an anime or manga I'm following. I just finished this one since I already started it. |
 That feeling when you feel you know the feeling of not feeling any feel at all. Get the feeling? |
| Everyone trying to look clever making edgy afirmations about the flaws of the show. Its was simple and nice, very intense, I really liked it. |
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| This became meh exactly when Attack on Titan became meh, when the show was no longer a survival one. For this one, the moment the "kabaneri" was introduced I got bored of it and it only got worse from episode 3 on. |
 "To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" |
| Stunning art and nice animation are not enough to save a series with a disastrous plot. Since the middle episodes, this show went downhill... Too many plot holes, aces up the sleeves, things appearing from nowhere... At first I didn't care, but this awful ending was the straw that broke the camel's back. 3/10. |
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| Finally, Biba's madness is stopped at the hands of Mumei. Ikoma stopping the train with his hands, OP lol. And when did Biba inject white blood into Ikoma, didn't see that part. |
srafayms said: Finally, Biba's madness is stopped at the hands of Mumei. Ikoma stopping the train with his hands, OP lol. And when did Biba inject white blood into Ikoma, didn't see that part. When Biba shot Ikoma. It was then |
Darklight0303 said: srafayms said: Finally, Biba's madness is stopped at the hands of Mumei. Ikoma stopping the train with his hands, OP lol. And when did Biba inject white blood into Ikoma, didn't see that part. When Biba shot Ikoma. It was then oh yeah, thanks :) |
 LOOK WHAT IV GOT :rolleyes: cant find ikoma and biba... ... wish me luck .. i dont like biba though. |
| Too many annoying characters and the series is filled with hypocrites. 6.5/10 |
| LOOK WHAT IVE GOT...again im fuckin pissed when the glass cracked...   |
| I really wanted to like this series more than I did. It didn't really feel rushed to me, but the story was just all over the place. Not really a fan of Ikoma either, bit of a weak main character to me. There were some strong points (I always like watching the bond between two best friends, for example). Legendary OST, which I've come to almost expect from Sawano now. 7/10 |
| So just finished watching this over two days. I can't really see why everyone is going crazy with the negative reviews. It wasn't groundbreaking but it really wasn't bad either. Decent enough anime original series, although nothing about it was really 'original.' Fairly generic concept and predictable execution. I liked that most of the show took place on the train. The characters where all pretty flat especially the protagonist. Character design and art style where pretty good, I liked the steampunk theme quite a bit. Probably the most unique thing about the show. All in all, I enjoyed it for a short series. Not particularly memorable but it really wasn't that bad. I was expecting a god awful trainwreck, pun intended. Instead I got a mediocre survival story with a cool art style. Seems like a lot of people bought into the hype and are overacting. |
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| Great show until we got the shit antagonist that is Biba to ruin the whole thing. I really love the anime's universe so I wouldn't mind watching a sequel or something but dam. Had they stuck with just trying to fight off the Kanabe instead of this shit with Biba just slaughtering everyone then it would've been a much better anime. At least it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be, the score it has is just stupid. Sure there was the whole Biba thing and a few other issues but overall it was a good show. The music, atmosphere and story (pre ep 7) were all great. Not many steampunk themed zombie apocalypse anime set in what seems to be the Edo period, very nice choice. |
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| After watching all the previews I am disappointed at how this anime turned out to be. The steampunk setting with a zombie apocalypse was quite unique and interesting. It stated out interestingly enough but went downhill after Biba was introduced. The part where this anime failed the most is the characters especially the protagonists. I mean one can clearly tell that the writer took a lot of inspiration from Attack on the Titan. The protagonist aka crybaby Ikoma was everyone's favorite punching bag with a nail-gun which was only effective at point-blank range. He should've been dead by the second episode considering how pathetic he was. While the female protagonist was a bimbo who had few screws loose in her head with lack of common sense or logic and deserved to die considering the carnage she imitated. However, other characters like Takumi and Sukari were somewhat interesting and likeable. Honestly I didn't even cared about the ending. Overall 5/10 |
| How I even stuck with this series until the end is beyond me.. The only thing remotely decent about this anime is the music. 1/10 for an absolute waste of my time. |
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Justykanna said: This describes exactly how I feel. I absolutely enjoyed it up until Biba appeared. From that point I was trying to enjoy it just as much. I certainly like this anime but I can't ignore that the second half was a letdown.I really wanted to like this series more than I did. |
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| Ikoma blew that train away with the force. Babi died. I had to laugh at the way Mumei threw Ikoma. Yukina going to work on that acceleration. The only one missing is Takumi. :( And that was the end....for now. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
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