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Jul 7, 12:42 AM
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@TrickyHunter0506 as far as I’m concerned, the OP is a troll who would fit 4chan quite well, but it hasn’t happened because of some reasons I can speculate from reading OP’s responses.

Before you tagged me, I thought this thread is dead and after catching up with what I missed, I am cemented in my above-mentioned beliefs.

To all and everyone reading this response, please refrain from answering to anyone and especially tagging OP and indulging in this purely orchestrated prepubescent attempt at trolling. OP here doesn’t want to be “enlightened”, or have a civil discussion about strengths and weaknesses of the title.

This should be a necro thread and treat it as if it is.

Thank you.
@c1K Yes you are right 💯. Thank you for taking your time and replying to me. No need to reply me i get what u mean.
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Surprised this thread is still going. 🥴

Jul 7, 7:57 AM
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Rudy is a guy suffering from various forms of trauma yet decides to continue fighting. I'd say I find this more engaging than a strong main character that possesses no fear, worries or anxieties and only temporarily is plagued by worry. Rudy to me seems to be troubled more than he is at ease. The show is not 4D chess like Deathnote nor One Piece world building but seeing the story of a flawed man fighting to be better than he was in his old life is enjoyable to me. Also I am a dude so seeing a story abt a guy overcoming his struggle to wield his sword and the pain that brings is something I can say I haven't seen before. Additionally there are many questions I have about the world that keep me interested as well.
Such as
- The relation of the man god to the dragons dudes
- man god's intentions
- will rudy wife a beast person nd do what his dad never did?
- what is the history around teleportation magic
- will rudy overcome his unstable mental state
- etc.

So while this show isnt devoid of issues and shortcomings as all shows are there are things that keep me invested. Hope this helps you get why I liked it.
Jul 7, 11:02 AM
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I could never imagine someone hating on Mushuko - other than the pedo allegation stuff, which I didn’t even that this kind of allegation existed until now..

Personally I feel the reason why you don’t like it, looking at your page, is because it’s not fast-paced. Everything is a slow burn, especially when you look at season 2 with the school arc. I love this show because of this aspect, unlike 99% of other iseaki. The characters, romance, worldbuilding, and animation is simply well crafted enough that I’m able to binge watch episodes at work 😂
Jul 7, 12:12 PM

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I could never imagine someone hating on Mushuko - other than the pedo allegation stuff, which I didn’t even that this kind of allegation existed until now..

Personally I feel the reason why you don’t like it, looking at your page, is because it’s not fast-paced. Everything is a slow burn, especially when you look at season 2 with the school arc. I love this show because of this aspect, unlike 99% of other iseaki. The characters, romance, worldbuilding, and animation is simply well crafted enough that I’m able to binge watch episodes at work 😂
@nascarlad
I like a lot of slow burn series. Monster is a famous example. I’m just not seeing what y’all are seeing.
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Rudy is a guy suffering from various forms of trauma yet decides to continue fighting. I'd say I find this more engaging than a strong main character that possesses no fear, worries or anxieties and only temporarily is plagued by worry. Rudy to me seems to be troubled more than he is at ease. The show is not 4D chess like Deathnote nor One Piece world building but seeing the story of a flawed man fighting to be better than he was in his old life is enjoyable to me. Also I am a dude so seeing a story abt a guy overcoming his struggle to wield his sword and the pain that brings is something I can say I haven't seen before. Additionally there are many questions I have about the world that keep me interested as well.
Such as
- The relation of the man god to the dragons dudes
- man god's intentions
- will rudy wife a beast person nd do what his dad never did?
- what is the history around teleportation magic
- will rudy overcome his unstable mental state
- etc.

So while this show isnt devoid of issues and shortcomings as all shows are there are things that keep me invested. Hope this helps you get why I liked it.
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Yeah that’s fair asf brother (character limit)
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Jul 11, 2:38 PM

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Tbh I can't really see why you wouldn't like it apart from the weird stuff. As for me, if Rudy REALLY tried to become a better person and wouldn't do pedo stuff or (SPOILER SEASON 2 END)
cheat on his wife and any other scumbag stuff like that it would be an easy 10/10.
I mean i understand that growth takes time and that you don't just become a better person overnight, but he had 16 FUCKING years in that world which he could have used to improve. And people still defend him with stuff like "he is trying".
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The series is really awful but it’s a coomer/waifu/isekai power fantasy all rolled into one. It appeals to the most socially deprived anime fans that also want to watch their fantasies come to life. That’s why you’ll see people say that Rudeus cheating was not actually his fault or that the pedo stuff means that Rudeus is a bad person, so it’s ok he’s a pedo…(?). Even I struggle coming to terms with the fact that this anime, despite having the most typical, predictable, and uninspired aspects of both isekai and fantasy with a slice of normalizing pedophilia is one of the most popular series on earth. (For the record, the difference between a story like Dragon Maid and this is that in Dragon Maid Lucoa lusting after shota is obviously a joke but in this story it’s not. Rudeus was an ACTUAL pedophile and the story depicts it in a realistic and depraved way. They are trying to make pedophiles sympathetic….lmfao).
Jul 12, 11:46 PM
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Polvo_Aranha said:
Mushoku Tensei is popular, but it isn't "mainstream". Most mainstream stuff fans hate it because it isn't afraid of being morally ambiguous.

Their main characters aren't exactly good people, everybody have flaws, and that makes that world feel so real. Also, later in the series, there is a great worldbuilding, and many plots, although there are controversial, are really well-written.

Pedophilia is not morally ambiguous…it’s just wrong. Normal people would find a story trying to redeem a pedo insane. To even imagine a character that lusts after children can be redeemed is absolutely insane. There’s a reason there’s a list for people like that.
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thunderkitten13 said:
Polvo_Aranha said:
Mushoku Tensei is popular, but it isn't "mainstream". Most mainstream stuff fans hate it because it isn't afraid of being morally ambiguous.

Their main characters aren't exactly good people, everybody have flaws, and that makes that world feel so real. Also, later in the series, there is a great worldbuilding, and many plots, although there are controversial, are really well-written.

Pedophilia is not morally ambiguous…it’s just wrong. Normal people would find a story trying to redeem a pedo insane. To even imagine a character that lusts after children can be redeemed is absolutely insane. There’s a reason there’s a list for people like that.

Dude, being a child too affected his taste on women. Just take a look: after growing up, he stopped grooming on girls of that age.
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Polvo_Aranha said:
thunderkitten13 said:

Pedophilia is not morally ambiguous…it’s just wrong. Normal people would find a story trying to redeem a pedo insane. To even imagine a character that lusts after children can be redeemed is absolutely insane. There’s a reason there’s a list for people like that.

Dude, being a child too affected his taste on women. Just take a look: after growing up, he stopped grooming on girls of that age.

Are you using your brain? I am asking you genuinely. The recidivism rate for pedos is around 20-70%. There are plenty of studies that prove once a person commits a crime of a sexual nature against a minor, they are prone to doing it again. The only answer you have to give me is “it’s not real, it’s fiction” which is exactly why people don’t like this story because it’s trying to somehow rationalize pedohilia in a fictional setting. That’s like trying to rationalize racism or murder only pedophilia is a million times worse. Victimizing a minor is usually the first step a person takes before committing even more heinous crimes. Anyways, this conversation is making me want to vomit because it’s scary people are trying to excuse the pedo stuff in this story. Yuck.
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thunderkitten13 said:
Polvo_Aranha said:

Dude, being a child too affected his taste on women. Just take a look: after growing up, he stopped grooming on girls of that age.

Are you using your brain? I am asking you genuinely. The recidivism rate for pedos is around 20-70%. There are plenty of studies that prove once a person commits a crime of a sexual nature against a minor, they are prone to doing it again. The only answer you have to give me is “it’s not real, it’s fiction” which is exactly why people don’t like this story because it’s trying to somehow rationalize pedohilia in a fictional setting. That’s like trying to rationalize racism or murder only pedophilia is a million times worse. Victimizing a minor is usually the first step a person takes before committing even more heinous crimes. Anyways, this conversation is making me want to vomit because it’s scary people are trying to excuse the pedo stuff in this story. Yuck.

Since you clearly ignored my argument, I will give a resume: as Rudeus said in the last episode, he never was an adult in the body of a child, he was a child with memories of his previous life.

That is what makes it so ambiguous.
Jul 14, 12:46 AM
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For me, what makes it great is the fact that it has characters that feel like real people. I feel the same way when reading Game of Thrones in this aspect.

Most animes don't have that. They have unbreakable characteristics, devotions, or goals that are great for the estory, and you just accept it, but if you think about it, it does not feel realistic.

Like how Naruto can still be kind and understanding with his enemies.

How Luffy never gives up on his dream and friends (I only watched a few ep of this one)

How Deku work so hard and use his power while it hurts his on body, break his bones.

How Stark (from Frieren) doesn't ask anything about Fern annoying him. He is an innocent being. (teenagers are not that cute)

Well, I think I made clear the point. I like characters with unbelievable willpower. Don't get me wrong. But I like fantasy with more realistic behavior a lot, too.
Jul 18, 4:51 AM
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Mushoku tensei has plot points that dive into despair and hopelessness that some people can relate to, and because you are living through this character for so long, you begin to understand his decisions even with the flaws within it.
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@SenshadouOtaku

mushoku tensei is mainstream. and even tho the big three is super popular, naruto and one piece (one piece especially) is known for having really good worldbuilding, development, storylines blah blah etc.. that doesnt make it invalid for me to question why mushoku tensei imo doesnt stand out to me in this way.

like all im asking is what im missing?

You must have been watching this with a blindfold to miss the world building. Also take into account that 99% of Isekai literally copied mushoku tensei so if it feels like a generic isekai it’s because it set the genre. It also goes way above and beyond in just about everything. You just don’t seem to care about the details put into the show that make it so good
@Bolona07 Weird, user X who in order to defend Mushoku tensei spreads misinformation saying that 99% of isekai have copied his favorite work when it is not true. Absurd how MT fanboys defend MT in the most absurd ways
Sep 4, 11:10 PM
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The show is popular because of its take on the fantasy genre. It focuses on a truly flawed character that has a chance to completely rewrite who he is, and this show is exactly that. It's tackling all of the problems he faced (or avoided) in his original world, and walks through him working through these problems in a fantasy setting.

The LN is a fantasy epic that is truly one of a kind, and the anime adaptation is doing it justice I'd say. If you don't like the character growth we've seen up to this point, I would say drop it and come back in a few years once you're a bit older. Not trying to be rude, but I typically find younger people can't identify the character development and nuances of the story. Or, you'll just never appreciate this kind of storytelling, which is also fine.

For me, I love the characters and the world building. The level of detail the author has put into this world and it's characters is like nothing else we've seen from a fantasy drama up to this point in anime.
@jyergs99 I'm still looking for this ghost character growth, when his entire reincarnation is just based on the advantages he has, like having a godly talent, having a god who advises him on the right path to take for now, being born into a good family, being handsome, never being punished for his maniacal perversions... literally the only bad things that happen to Rudeus are being dumped by Eris (for good reasons he doesn't understand) which leads to depression and witnessing his father's death, but he always gains from it, like friends, extra powers and the addition of an unwanted harem which just makes me tell MT fans who are watching to say this is a story of improvement? when Rudeus is allowed everything and never has to face punishment for being a shitty pedophile. Imagine if he was born ugly and without any talent, it would have made for a better story imo. So it's funny how you say you have to be an adult to appreciate it, when any good self-respecting adult would despise this garbage because it's just garbage, lol.
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Yes, I think Mushoku Tensei is very unique in its take on the fantasy genre. There is nothing else like it. I'm sorry you aren't able to appreciate this yet, and I hope when you get older, you're able to appreciate the character growth and depth of story that this show provides. Judging by your responses to people, I'm assuming you're in that 15-17 year-old range. You'll appreciate it more when you're older and more mature, but until you grow up, just watch what you enjoy.
@jyergs99 No self-respecting adult would appreciate such garbage, the fact that you are here praising it and saying that only by growing up can one appreciate these stories literally sucks, since you believe that your terrible taste in anime/novels is reflected on everyone, when the truth is that it just makes you look ridiculous, lol
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Leon888 said:
@Bolona07 Weird, user X who in order to defend Mushoku tensei spreads misinformation saying that 99% of isekai have copied his favorite work when it is not true. Absurd how MT fanboys defend MT in the most absurd ways

Mushoku Tensei was one of the first isekai’ stop come out and it shaped the genre. Stop arguing without knowing shit
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Leon888 said:
@Bolona07 Weird, user X who in order to defend Mushoku tensei spreads misinformation saying that 99% of isekai have copied his favorite work when it is not true. Absurd how MT fanboys defend MT in the most absurd ways

Mushoku Tensei was one of the first isekai’ stop come out and it shaped the genre. Stop arguing without knowing shit
@Bolona07 first isekai in 2020? Are you smoking the genre boomed in 2012 with Sao(specifically LN isekai)and been there since 96 with escaflown.
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@Bolona07 first isekai in 2020? Are you smoking the genre boomed in 2012 with Sao(specifically LN isekai)and been there since 96 with escaflown.
@Otakupervert890 He's talking about Mushoku Tensei web novel which started in 2012 and light novel in 2014 which inspired many modern isekai writers.
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Otakupervert890 said:
@Bolona07 first isekai in 2020? Are you smoking the genre boomed in 2012 with Sao(specifically LN isekai)and been there since 96 with escaflown.

I’m talking about the light novel autist
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Leon888 said:
@Bolona07 Weird, user X who in order to defend Mushoku tensei spreads misinformation saying that 99% of isekai have copied his favorite work when it is not true. Absurd how MT fanboys defend MT in the most absurd ways

Mushoku Tensei was one of the first isekai’ stop come out and it shaped the genre. Stop arguing without knowing shit
@Bolona07 It's a shame it didn't do much to revolutionize isekai, those were other titles, but obviously you're too inexperienced to know them
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I feel the same. I stopped watching it after a couple episodes but decided to try again since it’s so hyped. Like.. what am I missing? The episode I picked it back up in was MC trying to smooth over his father’s infidelity by calling him a rapist. This works wonders, and soon the mom and dad are back together and raising the maids children np. 🤨

A couple more perverted conversations later, I was reminded why I dropped this in the first place. The rating blows my mind, but I guess if I can’t make myself chug through even half a season then it’s not for me no matter how much fans claim there’s so much substance
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