Dungeon Meshi Episode 13 Discussion

Probably the last time We'll see this OP. It's quite relaxing, I like it.

9:38, 9:42 It wasn't subtitled, but the ghost said これ以上は心配しないで (kore ijou wa shinpai shinaide) - "You don't need to worry anymore"

The ED is so out of place again xD
A bit tonal shift this episode. Losing Falin again is a bit frustrating, but I like this development. I hope people don't start hating on Chilchuck too much, he was just super frustrated.

A trailer for the second cour just came out, so check it out.

@Embient


Why people should be anti-Chilchuck, because of his reaction in this Episode? He was the only one who acted responsibly and considered the situation that they were in. There is a difference between a coward and a logical person who knows when he comes to his limits and when it's pointless to continue when he considers their current status.

And thank you I wondered what the ghost said.
By the way, how did you understand what the ghost said?


@Marinate1016

The king is probably the same one who said that he gives his rule to the one who will defeat the crazy mag that rules the dungeon right now (the elf).
And that is weird because this elf seems like he really cares about his king.

@therealab Dragon soul, clearly. They said monster souls don't persist, but Dragon seems to be different. Maybe a familiar? The rest of the things we've seen seem to just be animals that moved in and adapted. Dragon seems to be a construct.

On an unrelated note: The subs continue to be shaky, and the Orcs objectively inferior animals.

@therealab Dragon soul, clearly. They said monster souls don't persist, but Dragon seems to be different. Maybe a familiar? The rest of the things we've seen seem to just be animals that moved in and adapted. Dragon seems to be a construct.

On an unrelated note: The subs continue to be shaky, and the Orcs objectively inferior animals.

see, in my mind
Ep 12 is where the story ended
they found falin, they saved falin, they went home with falin.

I am not sitting around to watch them ruin the story by dragging it out even longer. haffun on the kamikaze plane.

Care to point out any actual examples for those who actually rely on them?

@tuorm Idk, when the ghost started talking I just immediately recognized it as words.

@Takata

9:50: ”頭がどうにかなりそうだ” (Lit. My head's going crazy/is close to the edge) is translated as "I feel like my head's about to explode". Obviously Chuck's just saying he's about to lose his mind. This one's particularly egregious since it implies the ghosts may have done something to them, if unintentionally. As if they attacked briefly, or their mere presence is painful somehow.

10:18: ”一体どこから..." (Lit. Where the heck...?) was translated as "How did they get in?". She was asking where they got in through, like the last guy did. Nitpick? Absolutely. Inaccurate? Also yes.

11:10: "お前がこんなところまで来るなんて... 族長との約束とは？" (Lit. For you to come all the way here... what was your promise with the chief?) was translated as ""What brings you all the way down here? What promise did you make to our chief?". There was only one long question being asked. She didn't ask a question, then immediately re-state the question, or ask a separate, but similar one. She was wondering what promise he made to the chief that would compel him to come to buttfuck, nowhere for no apparent financial benefit.

20:05: ”おい置いていくぞ” (Lit. I/We'll leave you behind) gets translated as "Do you want to be left behind?". Nitpick? Arguably. Inaccurate? Technically!

20:07: ”あっああ” (Lit. Y-yeah) translated as "C-coming". Nitpick? Yes.

I left out more annoying nitpicks, like phrasing issues where the the dialogue and the translation don't match levels of formality, for example. But that's the gist of the issues. It's a really step up from last episode, where every other line seemed to be off somehow.

@HyperlinkBlocked Hm... I might have sat through the subtitle track for the English dub, instead of the subtitle track for the Japanese dub, and not even noticed, because they were arranged the other way around to usual in the file.

For #4, Phrasing it as a statement instead of a question suggests a bit more intent to actually leave him behind. ...although by this point she's had a nice enough conversation with Chilchuk and is helping him haul 4 peoples' worth of bags, so, almost certainly not serious in context.

For #1, I think it's obvious from the context that the ghosts have not harmed them. There's no freezing effect, and they lack the open hostility of the ghosts encountered earlier. The first one even says "it's okay". -and that's all after the ghosts helped the party out of the crushing chamber. Wonder where the ghosts' allegiences lie... "I feel like my head's about to explode" seems to denote physiological pain, perhaps a result of the tumble into the crushing chamber earlier. "I think I'm going crazy" seems to denote a state of confusion, as opposed to any actual pain. In context, Chilchuk is probably experiencing both at the time.

It's going to take more than this to bother me though. I've noticed subs in other anime that seemed pretty far from what the characters were actually saying, and I understand no more than a little Japanese vocabulary.

Right, but remember that they just fell down a hole of unknown dimensions. Not to mention the fact that ghosts are supernatural creatures. Not only could Chil have hit his head, the ghosts themselves might have other anomalous effects beyond the obvious freezing. It doesn't matter what the ghost said (barely audible as it was), if they hypothetically radiate some kind of pain aura, you'll get hit no matter what they tell you. A better line would have been something like "I'm about to lose it!", since Chilchuck very specifically says his sanity is nearing its breaking point.



This is great compared to last episode, and practically a Master Class in translation compared to "Gushing over Magical Girls".