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Feb 7, 10:08 AM
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So i checked it it has 2006 sequel how so? Is that a alternative version of it or something like Hxh 1999. Btw why 2006s score worse than others is it worth watching it? One more thing i looked for watch order of this. It looks like it has movies or something. So whats the best watch order to not waste my time as possible. |
Feb 7, 10:14 AM
#2
The movie heaven's feel Trilogy are a adaptation of the third route after fate/stay night (2006) a bad adaptation of saber route and unlimited blade works (rin thosaka route) so in order its Fate/stay night (2006) Fate/stay night unlimited blade works Fate/stay night heaven feel Trilogy Fate/zero it assume you know the other 3 route if you go watch it first you will be spoiled. All the rest is optional I am sure other will come with other watch order but essentially zero was made in mind for those who had read the VN(which what it's adapted from) so no it's not a good start by any means. Also only reason 2006 fate got a low score it's because Deen did a bad job but it's still a good introduction to the world of Fate. |
Feb 7, 10:24 AM
#3
Fate/Zero is basically a prequel to fate/stay night that is made after fate/stay night similar to No game no life zero or Jjk 0. Yes, u can start with fate/zero if u want to and watch unlimited blade works after but some may disagree with this order. |
Feb 7, 10:37 AM
#4
Fate is a Visual Novel with 3 different endings but to understand a ton of references and what the holy grail war is about u need to watch fate zero Then fate stay night Then unlimited blade works Then heaven's feel and then at the end u shall have consumed all canon fate |
Feb 7, 10:43 AM
#5
I got a simple one watch the 3 fate/stay nights, fate/zero, and lord El Melloi case files after that watch whatever looks interesting. some will say I'm wrong but I like keeping things simple. |
Feb 7, 10:53 AM
#6
TabutcuEmmi said: So i checked it it has 2006 sequel how so? Is that a alternative version of it or something like Hxh 1999. Btw why 2006s score worse than others is it worth watching it? One more thing i looked for watch order of this. It looks like it has movies or something. So whats the best watch order to not waste my time as possible. you should watch UBW then fate zero, then the heaven's feel movies. you can Skip the 2006 series and play the visual novel when it releases on steam later this year |
Feb 7, 11:10 AM
#7
TabutcuEmmi said: So i checked it it has 2006 sequel how so? Is that a alternative version of it or something like Hxh 1999. No one explained it very clearly, so i'll do it. Fate/Stay Night is originally a Visual Novel (a type of Novel, officially categorized as Games). Most Visual Novels uses a system of "Routes". Basically, they are divergences in the story, happening because of the choice you makes as a player (for the majority, the "Routes" of Visual Novels focus on different characters (often Waifus), and thus are named after them). So all Routes starts the same, uses the same group of character, but ends up telling a (totally) different story with them. Fate/Stay Night has 3 "Routes" : Fate (Saber), Unlimited Blade Works (Rin), and Heaven's Feel (Sakura). Unlike the usual Visual Novels, you can't choose the "Route" you play, but are forced to do them in order. the Fate Route was adapted in the 2006 Anime, but is not a completely faithful adaptation, Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) was adapted in a Movie, and later completely re-adapted in a 2 Seasons TV Series, and Heaven's Feel (HF) was adapted in a Trilogy of Movie. Another Author, fan of the original Visual Novel, got the permission to do a Prequel (a story about the past of a character/universe of a work already existing, made to be experienced after the main work), and did Fate/Zero, the backstory of the father of the protagonist of Fate/Stay Night. So no, it's not an Alternative Version. Unlimited Blade Works is one of the 2006 Anime, as they are different Routes, but it's still is a separated story. TabutcuEmmi said: Btw why 2006s score worse than others is it worth watching it? There is a lot of bad thing about it, especially when compared to all the other adaptations, but it is worth watching. It's the only adaptation that develop Saber, one of the most popular and impactful character (she's also the mascot of the franchise). TabutcuEmmi said: One more thing i looked for watch order of this. It looks like it has movies or something. So whats the best watch order to not waste my time as possible. You can check the whole list just below. If you don't want to lose your time, just watch the Main Story, and eventually look at the other works of the Author, listed in "You Can Also Watch". Important : It is recommended to read the Visual Novel instead of watching the Animes, as they have to cut a lot of dialogue important for characterization. The Author, Kinoko Nasu, thinks it's impossible to get the same quality of writing due to the difference in medium. If you don't want to play it now (or even at all), you can still watch the Animes, but always keep in mind this alternative. Fate/Stay Night (2006) Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works - Prologue Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works 2nd Season Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works 2nd Season - Sunny Day Fate/Stay Night Movie : Heaven's Feel I - Presage Flower Fate/Stay Night Movie : Heaven's Feel II - Lost Butterfly Fate/Stay Night Movie : Heaven's Feel III - Spring Song Fate/Zero Fate/Zero 2nd Season Notes : Fate/Stay Night 2006's visuals are outdated (especially when compared to Ufotable's), and if you don't understand Shirô (due to a lot of his monologues being cut), he can be extremely annoying... Most people suggest to skip it, but it's still the best way to get into the franchise (without reading the Visual Novel), thanks to the exposition. It's also the only series that has a fully fleshed-out development of Saber (The mascot of the franchise), and also the fantastic OSTs of Kenji Kawai (OST Sample). If you struggle too much watching it, you can watch the TV Reproduction recaps instead, or completely skip it, but i really think it's a shame... For those who aren't too familiar with the universe of the franchise, watching the Kara no Kyoukai movies (another work of the Author) can help to clarify the ending of Heaven's Feel III. Even if you don't want to read the Visual Novel, i still recommend to read the following chapters : Last Episode, the Epilogue of the 2006 Anime. (There is also a Manga Adaptation of it, but it spoils Unlimited Blade Works.) When It's Spring & Cherry Blossom's Dream, a two-part Alternative Ending to Heaven's Feel. Sparks Liner High, Shirô VS Saber Alter, one of the "Bad Ending" of Heaven's Feel. Fate/Zero is considered by many as the best series of the entire franchise. However, being a prequel, it expects you to be already familiar with the lore, and to know the outcome of it. You can watch it first, but the info dump can be rough, the series will spoil most twists of the three Stay Night series (the majority of it in the first episode), and it also has a different, grittier, tone. The Author of Zero himself, Gen Urobuchi, was surprised to learn that people discovered the franchise with his work, but made it clear that it was important to experience it in last. Carnival Phantasm Carnival Phantasm EX Season Carnival Phantasm : HibiChika Special Carnival Phantasm : Illya-jou Fate/Zero : Onegai ! Einzbern Soudanshitsu {Fate/Grand Order Parodies Fate/Grand Carnival Fate/Grand Order : Fujimaru Ritsuka wa Wakaranai - Nenmatsu Special Fate/Grand Order : Fujimaru Ritsuka wa Wakaranai Fate/Grand Order : Himuro no Tenchi - 7-nin no Saikyou Ijin-hen Manga de Wakaru ! Fate/Grand Order} Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya : Undoukai de Dance Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Specials Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei ! Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei ! Mahou Shoujo in Onsen Ryokou Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei ! Specials Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei Herz ! Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei Herz ! Specials Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 3 rei !! Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 3 rei !! Specials Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Sekka no Chikai Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Sekka no Chikai Special - Kuro Sakura no Heya Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Prisma☆Phantasm Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Licht - Namae no Nai Shoujo Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Licht - Namae no Nai Shoujo Mini Anime Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Zoku-hen (Not Yet Aired) Notes : Half the cast of Carnival Phantasm is from Tsukihime, another work of the Author. The four Fate/Grand Order Parodies most probably won't appeal to those who aren't familiar with the Gacha mobile game. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya starts as a parody, but later takes a very serious tone, reminiscent of Heaven's Feel. Fate/Apocrypha Fate/Strange Fake : Whispers Of Dawn Fate/Strange Fake (Not Yet Aired) Fate/Extra : Last Encore Fate/Extra : Last Encore - Illustrias Tendousetsu Fate/Grand Order Movie : First Order Fate/Grand Order Movie : Shinsei Entaku Ryouiki Camelot 1 - Wandering;Agateram Fate/Grand Order Movie : Shinsei Entaku Ryouiki Camelot 2 - Paladin;Agateram Fate/Grand Order : Zettai Majuu Sensen Babylonia - Initium Iter Fate/Grand Order : Zettai Majuu Sensen Babylonia Fate/Grand Order Movie : Shuukyoku Tokuiten - Kani Jikan Shinden Solomon Fate/Grand Order : Moonlight/Lostroom Notes : For those who aren't too familiar with the "Mage's association", watching the Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo : Rail Zeppelin Grace Note series may give extra insights into (group of) characters in Fate/Strange Fake. Fate/Extra : Last Encore is actually a "What if the protagonist failed to defeat the last boss ?" Sequel scenario to the PSP game. Playing the game beforehand may enhance the experience. Fate/Grand Order was originally a Gacha mobile game, with (currently) 3 Parts. Part 1, titled "Observer On Timeless Temple", contains a Prologue and 8 story Arcs. First Order adapts the Prologue, Camelot the 6th Arc, Babylonia the 7th, and Solomon the 8th. Camelot and Babylonia are more or less self-contained, and thus can be watched without having played the game, as long as First Order has been seen. (Playing the game beforehand may greatly enhance the experience, especially as these Animes were literally made to thanks the fans for their support, by adapting their favorites story Arcs.) Moonlight/Lostroom is a Prologue to Part 3, titled "Cosmos In The Lostbelt". {Recaps Fate/Stay Night : TV Reproduction Fate/Stay Night Movie : Unlimited Blade Works Fate/Zero Remix Fate/Apocrypha Recaps Fate/Grand Order : Zettai Majuu Sensen Babylonia Recaps} Fate/Prototype Mahoutsukai no Yoru (Not Yet Aired) Kara no Kyoukai 1 : Fukan Fuukei Kara no Kyoukai 2 : Satsujin Kousatsu (Zen) Kara no Kyoukai 3 : Tsuukaku Zanryuu Kara no Kyoukai 4 : Garan no Dou Kara no Kyoukai 5 : Mujun Rasen Kara no Kyoukai 6 : Boukyaku Rokuon Kara no Kyoukai Remix : Gate Of Seventh Heaven Kara no Kyoukai 7 : Satsujin Kousatsu (Kou) Kara no Kyoukai 8 : Shuushou Kara no Kyoukai (9) : Mirai Fukuin Kara no Kyoukai (10) : Extra Chorus Shingetsutan Tsukihime Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo : Rail Zeppelin Grace Note - Hakamori to Neko to Majutsushi Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo : Rail Zeppelin Grace Note Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo : Rail Zeppelin Grace Note - Tokubetsu-hen Notes : Fate/Stay Night Movie : Unlimited Blade Works is not a recap, but the first adaptation of Unlimited Blade Works. However, it was so rushed, that it can be considered as a recap/compilation of the best scenes. Kara no Kyoukai Remix is a recap that puts movies 1 to 6 in chronological order (it's a non-linear story), in an AMVs format. Shingetsutan Tsukihime is considered as a bad adaptation (way, way worse than Fate/Stay Night 2006), to the point that a meme was created : "There is no Tsukihime Anime !". Reading the Original Visual Novel, the Remake one, or the Manga, is recommended. Fate/Strange Fake CM Fate/Grand Order CMs (Currently Airing) Tsuki no Sango CM Toshiwasure Guda Guda Order 2016 Ken to Mahou no Logres : Inishie no Megami x Fate/Extella Kara no Kyoukai : Manner Movies Kara no Kyoukai (9) : Mirai Fukuin - Manner Movie Fate/Zero Café Notes : Fate/Zero Café can not be watched. (Details) Notes : I vividly recommend to check out those unadapted pieces : Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (Visual Novel) Fate/Stay Night : Garden Of Avalon (Light Novel & Drama-CD) Fate/Type Redline (Manga) Main Story Fate/Stay Night Note : Nio (Nakatani ?) did a One-Shot adapting The Last Episode, the Epilogue to the original route. Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works (Ongoing) Fate/Stay Night : Heaven's Feel (Ongoing) Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (On-Hiatus, possibly dropped) Fate/Zero Anthologies Fate/Prototype : Tribute Phantasm Fate/Stay Night : Comic Anthology Fate/Stay Night : Comic Battle Parodies Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan (Ongoing) Fate/Mahjong Night : Seihai Sensou (Ongoing) Himuro no Tenchi Fate/School Life (Ongoing) Fate/Tiger Colosseum Upper Fate/Zero Kuro Sensha Otoko : A True Tank Story Parodies - Fate/Kaleid Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei ! Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 3 rei !! (Ongoing) Parodies - Type-Moon-verse Take Moon All Around Type-Moon (Unclear, possibly completed with 2 Volumes) Koha-Ace Type-Moon Gakuen : Chibichuki ! (Ongoing) Mahou Tsukai no Hako : Starlit Marmalade Kitsy8 Spin-Offs Fate/Prototype : Sougin no Fragments (Ongoing) Fate/Apocrypha (Ongoing) Fate/Strange Fake (Ongoing) Teito Seihai Kitan : Fate/Type Redline (Ongoing) Fate/Samurai Remnant Jou Spin-Offs - Fate/Extra Fate/Extra One-Shot Fate/Extra Fate/Extra CCC (Ongoing) Fate/Extra CCC : Fox Tail (Ongoing) Fate/Ixtella Spin-Offs - Fate/Grand Order Fate/Grand Order : Mortalis Stella (Ongoing) Fate/Grand Order : Turas Réalta (Ongoing) Fate/Grand Order : Ordú Beag Fate/Grand Order : Okita Souji Makuai no Monogatari - Koko ni Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten I - Akusei Kakuzetsu Makyou Shinjuku - Shinjuku Genrei Jiken (Ongoing) Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten EX - Shinkai Dennou Rakudo SE.RA.PH (Ongoing) Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten II - Denshou Chitei Sekai Agartha - Agartha no Onna Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten III - Shizan Ketsuga Butai Shimousa no Kuni - Eirei Kengou Nanaban Shoubu (Ongoing) Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten IV - Kinki Kourin Teien Salem - Itan naru Salem (Ongoing) Fate/Grand Order : Dengeki Comic Anthology (Ongoing) Fate/Grand Order : Comic à la Carte Fate/Grand Order Anthology Comic : Star Fate/Grand Order : Medb Medb Medb ! - Aono Shimo Sakuhinshuu Fate/Grand Order Anthology Comic : The Next Fate/Grand Order : From Lostbelt (Ongoing) Fate/Grand Order : Chateau d'If - Kurose Kousuke Sakuhinshuu Fate/Grand Order : Eirei Shoku Bunroku (Ongoing) Fate/Grand Order: Saber Wars II Bangai-hen Manga de Wakaru ! Fate/Grand Order (Ongoing) Oshiete FGO ! Ijin to Shinwa no Grand Order (Unclear, possibly completed with 2 Volumes) Fate/Grand Order Duel : YA Tokuiten - Misshitsu Yuugi Makyou Shibuya - Shibuya Kettou Jiken Fate/Grand Order : Fujimaru Ritsuka wa Wakaranai (Ongoing) Nasuverse Kara no Kyoukai (Ongoing) Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo (Ongoing) Tsuki no Sango Nasuverse - Tsukihime Shingetsutan Tsukihime Melty Blood Melty Blood X Melty Blood : Rojiura Nightmare Melty Blood : Type Lumina - Piece In Paradise (Ongoing) Hana no Miyako Tsukihime : A Piece Of Blue Glass Moon - Comic Anthology Tsukihime : A Piece Of Blue Glass Moon - Comic à la Carte Tsukihime : A Piece Of Blue Glass Moon - Anthology Comic Star Main Story Fate/Stay Night : Garden Of Avalon Fate/Zero Heart Of Freaks Parodies Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Spin-Offs Fate/Prototype : Sougin no Fragment Fate/Labyrinth Fate/Apocrypha Fate/Apocrypha : Unbirth Fate:Lost Einherjar (Ongoing - Pending Approval) Fate/Requiem (Ongoing - Pending Approval) Fate/Strange Fake (Ongoing) Nasuverse Mahoutsukai no Yoru Kara no Kyoukai Kara no Kyoukai : Mirai Fukuin Kara no Kyoukai : Shuumatsu Rokuon Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Bouken (Ongoing - Pending Approval) Clock Tower 2015 (Pending Approval) Tsuki no Sango Notes. Main Story Fate/Stay Night OR Fate/Stay Night : Realta Nua (Visual Novels) Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (Visual Novel) Parodies Fate/Unlimited Codes (Arena Fighter) Fate/Tiger Colosseum (Arena Fighter) Fate/Tiger Colosseum : Upper (Arena Fighter) Everyday♪ Today's Menu For Emiya Family (Mini-Games) Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 3DS (Arena Fighter) Spin-Offs Fate/Extra (Dungeon Crawler RPG) OR Fate/Extra Record (RPG - Not Yet Released) Fate/Extra CCC (Dungeon Crawler RPG) Fate/Extella (Hack'n'Slash RPG) Fate/Extella The Umbral Star (Hack'n'Slash RPG) Fate/Extella Link (Hack'n'Slash RPG) Fate/Grand Order (Gacha RPG) / Fate/Grand Order : Arcade (Arena Fighter) Fate/Samurai Remnant (? - Not Yet Released) Nasuverse Mahoutsukai no Yoru (Visual Novel) Tsukihime + Tsukihime Plus-Disc OR Tsukihime : A Piece Of Blue Glass Moon (Visual Novels) Kagetsu Tohya (Visual Novel) Melty Blood (2D Fighter) Melty Blood : Re-Act (2D Fighter) Melty Blood : Act Cadenza (2D Fighter) Melty Blood : Actress Again (2D Fighter) Melty Blood : Type Lumina (2D Fighter) |
Alexioos95Feb 7, 11:15 AM
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Feb 7, 12:09 PM
#8
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TabutcuEmmi said:
So i checked it it has 2006 sequel how so? Is that a alternative version of it or something like Hxh 1999.
So i checked it it has 2006 sequel how so? Is that a alternative version of it or something like Hxh 1999.
No one explained it very clearly, so i'll do it.
Fate/Stay Night is originally a Visual Novel (a type of Novel, officially categorized as Games). Most Visual Novels uses a system of "Routes". Basically, they are divergences in the story, happening because of the choice you makes as a player (for the majority, the "Routes" of Visual Novels focus on different characters (often Waifus), and thus are named after them). So all Routes starts the same, uses the same group of character, but ends up telling a (totally) different story with them.
Fate/Stay Night has 3 "Routes" : Fate (Saber), Unlimited Blade Works (Rin), and Heaven's Feel (Sakura). Unlike the usual Visual Novels, you can't choose the "Route" you play, but are forced to do them in order. the Fate Route was adapted in the 2006 Anime, but is not a completely faithful adaptation, Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) was adapted in a Movie, and later completely re-adapted in a 2 Seasons TV Series, and Heaven's Feel (HF) was adapted in a Trilogy of Movie.
Another Author, fan of the original Visual Novel, got the permission to do a Prequel (a story about the past of a character/universe of a work already existing, made to be experienced after the main work), and did Fate/Zero, the backstory of the father of the protagonist of Fate/Stay Night.
So no, it's not an Alternative Version. Unlimited Blade Works is one of the 2006 Anime, as they are different Routes, but it's still is a separated story.
TabutcuEmmi said:
Btw why 2006s score worse than others is it worth watching it?
Btw why 2006s score worse than others is it worth watching it?
There is a lot of bad thing about it, especially when compared to all the other adaptations, but it is worth watching. It's the only adaptation that develop Saber, one of the most popular and impactful character (she's also the mascot of the franchise).
TabutcuEmmi said:
One more thing i looked for watch order of this. It looks like it has movies or something. So whats the best watch order to not waste my time as possible.
One more thing i looked for watch order of this. It looks like it has movies or something. So whats the best watch order to not waste my time as possible.
You can check the whole list just below. If you don't want to lose your time, just watch the Main Story, and eventually look at the other works of the Author, listed in "You Can Also Watch".
Important : It is recommended to read the Visual Novel instead of watching the Animes, as they have to cut a lot of dialogue important for characterization.
The Author, Kinoko Nasu, thinks it's impossible to get the same quality of writing due to the difference in medium.
If you don't want to play it now (or even at all), you can still watch the Animes, but always keep in mind this alternative.
Fate/Stay Night (2006)
Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works - Prologue
Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works
Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works 2nd Season
Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works 2nd Season - Sunny Day
Fate/Stay Night Movie : Heaven's Feel I - Presage Flower
Fate/Stay Night Movie : Heaven's Feel II - Lost Butterfly
Fate/Stay Night Movie : Heaven's Feel III - Spring Song
Fate/Zero
Fate/Zero 2nd Season
Notes :
Fate/Stay Night 2006's visuals are outdated (especially when compared to Ufotable's), and if you don't understand Shirô (due to a lot of his monologues being cut), he can be extremely annoying...
Most people suggest to skip it, but it's still the best way to get into the franchise (without reading the Visual Novel), thanks to the exposition.
It's also the only series that has a fully fleshed-out development of Saber (The mascot of the franchise), and also the fantastic OSTs of Kenji Kawai (OST Sample).
If you struggle too much watching it, you can watch the TV Reproduction recaps instead, or completely skip it, but i really think it's a shame...
For those who aren't too familiar with the universe of the franchise, watching the Kara no Kyoukai movies (another work of the Author) can help to clarify the ending of Heaven's Feel III.
Even if you don't want to read the Visual Novel, i still recommend to read the following chapters :
Last Episode, the Epilogue of the 2006 Anime. (There is also a Manga Adaptation of it, but it spoils Unlimited Blade Works.)
When It's Spring & Cherry Blossom's Dream, a two-part Alternative Ending to Heaven's Feel.
Sparks Liner High, Shirô VS Saber Alter, one of the "Bad Ending" of Heaven's Feel.
Fate/Zero is considered by many as the best series of the entire franchise. However, being a prequel, it expects you to be already familiar with the lore, and to know the outcome of it.
You can watch it first, but the info dump can be rough, the series will spoil most twists of the three Stay Night series (the majority of it in the first episode), and it also has a different, grittier, tone. The Author of Zero himself, Gen Urobuchi, was surprised to learn that people discovered the franchise with his work, but made it clear that it was important to experience it in last.
Carnival Phantasm
Carnival Phantasm EX Season
Carnival Phantasm : HibiChika Special
Carnival Phantasm : Illya-jou
Fate/Zero : Onegai ! Einzbern Soudanshitsu
{Fate/Grand Order Parodies
Fate/Grand Carnival
Fate/Grand Order : Fujimaru Ritsuka wa Wakaranai - Nenmatsu Special
Fate/Grand Order : Fujimaru Ritsuka wa Wakaranai
Fate/Grand Order : Himuro no Tenchi - 7-nin no Saikyou Ijin-hen
Manga de Wakaru ! Fate/Grand Order}
Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya : Undoukai de Dance
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Specials
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei !
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei ! Mahou Shoujo in Onsen Ryokou
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei ! Specials
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei Herz !
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei Herz ! Specials
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 3 rei !!
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 3 rei !! Specials
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Sekka no Chikai
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Sekka no Chikai Special - Kuro Sakura no Heya
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Prisma☆Phantasm
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Licht - Namae no Nai Shoujo
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Movie : Licht - Namae no Nai Shoujo Mini Anime
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya Zoku-hen (Not Yet Aired)
Notes :
Half the cast of Carnival Phantasm is from Tsukihime, another work of the Author.
The four Fate/Grand Order Parodies most probably won't appeal to those who aren't familiar with the Gacha mobile game.
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya starts as a parody, but later takes a very serious tone, reminiscent of Heaven's Feel.
Fate/Apocrypha
Fate/Strange Fake : Whispers Of Dawn
Fate/Strange Fake (Not Yet Aired)
Fate/Extra : Last Encore
Fate/Extra : Last Encore - Illustrias Tendousetsu
Fate/Grand Order Movie : First Order
Fate/Grand Order Movie : Shinsei Entaku Ryouiki Camelot 1 - Wandering;Agateram
Fate/Grand Order Movie : Shinsei Entaku Ryouiki Camelot 2 - Paladin;Agateram
Fate/Grand Order : Zettai Majuu Sensen Babylonia - Initium Iter
Fate/Grand Order : Zettai Majuu Sensen Babylonia
Fate/Grand Order Movie : Shuukyoku Tokuiten - Kani Jikan Shinden Solomon
Fate/Grand Order : Moonlight/Lostroom
Notes :
For those who aren't too familiar with the "Mage's association", watching the Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo : Rail Zeppelin Grace Note series may give extra insights into (group of) characters in Fate/Strange Fake.
Fate/Extra : Last Encore is actually a "What if the protagonist failed to defeat the last boss ?" Sequel scenario to the PSP game. Playing the game beforehand may enhance the experience.
Fate/Grand Order was originally a Gacha mobile game, with (currently) 3 Parts. Part 1, titled "Observer On Timeless Temple", contains a Prologue and 8 story Arcs. First Order adapts the Prologue, Camelot the 6th Arc, Babylonia the 7th, and Solomon the 8th.
Camelot and Babylonia are more or less self-contained, and thus can be watched without having played the game, as long as First Order has been seen. (Playing the game beforehand may greatly enhance the experience, especially as these Animes were literally made to thanks the fans for their support, by adapting their favorites story Arcs.)
Moonlight/Lostroom is a Prologue to Part 3, titled "Cosmos In The Lostbelt".
{Recaps
Fate/Stay Night : TV Reproduction
Fate/Stay Night Movie : Unlimited Blade Works
Fate/Zero Remix
Fate/Apocrypha Recaps
Fate/Grand Order : Zettai Majuu Sensen Babylonia Recaps}
Fate/Prototype
Mahoutsukai no Yoru (Not Yet Aired)
Kara no Kyoukai 1 : Fukan Fuukei
Kara no Kyoukai 2 : Satsujin Kousatsu (Zen)
Kara no Kyoukai 3 : Tsuukaku Zanryuu
Kara no Kyoukai 4 : Garan no Dou
Kara no Kyoukai 5 : Mujun Rasen
Kara no Kyoukai 6 : Boukyaku Rokuon
Kara no Kyoukai Remix : Gate Of Seventh Heaven
Kara no Kyoukai 7 : Satsujin Kousatsu (Kou)
Kara no Kyoukai 8 : Shuushou
Kara no Kyoukai (9) : Mirai Fukuin
Kara no Kyoukai (10) : Extra Chorus
Shingetsutan Tsukihime
Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo : Rail Zeppelin Grace Note - Hakamori to Neko to Majutsushi
Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo : Rail Zeppelin Grace Note
Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo : Rail Zeppelin Grace Note - Tokubetsu-hen
Notes :
Fate/Stay Night Movie : Unlimited Blade Works is not a recap, but the first adaptation of Unlimited Blade Works. However, it was so rushed, that it can be considered as a recap/compilation of the best scenes.
Kara no Kyoukai Remix is a recap that puts movies 1 to 6 in chronological order (it's a non-linear story), in an AMVs format.
Shingetsutan Tsukihime is considered as a bad adaptation (way, way worse than Fate/Stay Night 2006), to the point that a meme was created : "There is no Tsukihime Anime !". Reading the Original Visual Novel, the Remake one, or the Manga, is recommended.
Fate/Strange Fake CM
Fate/Grand Order CMs (Currently Airing)
Tsuki no Sango CM
Toshiwasure Guda Guda Order 2016
Ken to Mahou no Logres : Inishie no Megami x Fate/Extella
Kara no Kyoukai : Manner Movies
Kara no Kyoukai (9) : Mirai Fukuin - Manner Movie
Fate/Zero Café
Notes :
Fate/Zero Café can not be watched. (Details)
Notes :
I vividly recommend to check out those unadapted pieces :
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (Visual Novel)
Fate/Stay Night : Garden Of Avalon (Light Novel & Drama-CD)
Fate/Type Redline (Manga)
Main Story
Fate/Stay Night
Note : Nio (Nakatani ?) did a One-Shot adapting The Last Episode, the Epilogue to the original route.
Fate/Stay Night : Unlimited Blade Works (Ongoing)
Fate/Stay Night : Heaven's Feel (Ongoing)
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (On-Hiatus, possibly dropped)
Fate/Zero
Anthologies
Fate/Prototype : Tribute Phantasm
Fate/Stay Night : Comic Anthology
Fate/Stay Night : Comic Battle
Parodies
Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan (Ongoing)
Fate/Mahjong Night : Seihai Sensou (Ongoing)
Himuro no Tenchi Fate/School Life (Ongoing)
Fate/Tiger Colosseum Upper
Fate/Zero Kuro
Sensha Otoko : A True Tank Story
Parodies - Fate/Kaleid
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 2 wei !
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 3 rei !! (Ongoing)
Parodies - Type-Moon-verse
Take Moon
All Around Type-Moon (Unclear, possibly completed with 2 Volumes)
Koha-Ace
Type-Moon Gakuen : Chibichuki ! (Ongoing)
Mahou Tsukai no Hako : Starlit Marmalade
Kitsy8
Spin-Offs
Fate/Prototype : Sougin no Fragments (Ongoing)
Fate/Apocrypha (Ongoing)
Fate/Strange Fake (Ongoing)
Teito Seihai Kitan : Fate/Type Redline (Ongoing)
Fate/Samurai Remnant Jou
Spin-Offs - Fate/Extra
Fate/Extra One-Shot
Fate/Extra
Fate/Extra CCC (Ongoing)
Fate/Extra CCC : Fox Tail (Ongoing)
Fate/Ixtella
Spin-Offs - Fate/Grand Order
Fate/Grand Order : Mortalis Stella (Ongoing)
Fate/Grand Order : Turas Réalta (Ongoing)
Fate/Grand Order : Ordú Beag
Fate/Grand Order : Okita Souji Makuai no Monogatari - Koko ni
Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten I - Akusei Kakuzetsu Makyou Shinjuku - Shinjuku Genrei Jiken (Ongoing)
Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten EX - Shinkai Dennou Rakudo SE.RA.PH (Ongoing)
Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten II - Denshou Chitei Sekai Agartha - Agartha no Onna
Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten III - Shizan Ketsuga Butai Shimousa no Kuni - Eirei Kengou Nanaban Shoubu (Ongoing)
Fate/Grand Order : Epic Of Remnant - Ashu Tokuiten IV - Kinki Kourin Teien Salem - Itan naru Salem (Ongoing)
Fate/Grand Order : Dengeki Comic Anthology (Ongoing)
Fate/Grand Order : Comic à la Carte
Fate/Grand Order Anthology Comic : Star
Fate/Grand Order : Medb Medb Medb ! - Aono Shimo Sakuhinshuu
Fate/Grand Order Anthology Comic : The Next
Fate/Grand Order : From Lostbelt (Ongoing)
Fate/Grand Order : Chateau d'If - Kurose Kousuke Sakuhinshuu
Fate/Grand Order : Eirei Shoku Bunroku (Ongoing)
Fate/Grand Order: Saber Wars II Bangai-hen
Manga de Wakaru ! Fate/Grand Order (Ongoing)
Oshiete FGO ! Ijin to Shinwa no Grand Order (Unclear, possibly completed with 2 Volumes)
Fate/Grand Order Duel : YA Tokuiten - Misshitsu Yuugi Makyou Shibuya - Shibuya Kettou Jiken
Fate/Grand Order : Fujimaru Ritsuka wa Wakaranai (Ongoing)
Nasuverse
Kara no Kyoukai (Ongoing)
Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo (Ongoing)
Tsuki no Sango
Nasuverse - Tsukihime
Shingetsutan Tsukihime
Melty Blood
Melty Blood X
Melty Blood : Rojiura Nightmare
Melty Blood : Type Lumina - Piece In Paradise (Ongoing)
Hana no Miyako
Tsukihime : A Piece Of Blue Glass Moon - Comic Anthology
Tsukihime : A Piece Of Blue Glass Moon - Comic à la Carte
Tsukihime : A Piece Of Blue Glass Moon - Anthology Comic Star
Main Story
Fate/Stay Night : Garden Of Avalon
Fate/Zero
Heart Of Freaks
Parodies
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya
Spin-Offs
Fate/Prototype : Sougin no Fragment
Fate/Labyrinth
Fate/Apocrypha
Fate/Apocrypha : Unbirth
Fate:Lost Einherjar (Ongoing - Pending Approval)
Fate/Requiem (Ongoing - Pending Approval)
Fate/Strange Fake (Ongoing)
Nasuverse
Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai : Mirai Fukuin
Kara no Kyoukai : Shuumatsu Rokuon
Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo
Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Bouken (Ongoing - Pending Approval)
Clock Tower 2015 (Pending Approval)
Tsuki no Sango
Notes.
Main Story
Fate/Stay Night OR Fate/Stay Night : Realta Nua (Visual Novels)
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (Visual Novel)
Parodies
Fate/Unlimited Codes (Arena Fighter)
Fate/Tiger Colosseum (Arena Fighter)
Fate/Tiger Colosseum : Upper (Arena Fighter)
Everyday♪ Today's Menu For Emiya Family (Mini-Games)
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Illya 3DS (Arena Fighter)
Spin-Offs
Fate/Extra (Dungeon Crawler RPG) OR Fate/Extra Record (RPG - Not Yet Released)
Fate/Extra CCC (Dungeon Crawler RPG)
Fate/Extella (Hack'n'Slash RPG)
Fate/Extella The Umbral Star (Hack'n'Slash RPG)
Fate/Extella Link (Hack'n'Slash RPG)
Fate/Grand Order (Gacha RPG) / Fate/Grand Order : Arcade (Arena Fighter)
Fate/Samurai Remnant (? - Not Yet Released)
Nasuverse
Mahoutsukai no Yoru (Visual Novel)
Tsukihime + Tsukihime Plus-Disc OR Tsukihime : A Piece Of Blue Glass Moon (Visual Novels)
Kagetsu Tohya (Visual Novel)
Melty Blood (2D Fighter)
Melty Blood : Re-Act (2D Fighter)
Melty Blood : Act Cadenza (2D Fighter)
Melty Blood : Actress Again (2D Fighter)
Melty Blood : Type Lumina (2D Fighter)
@Alexioos95 thank you for effort very well explained ^^ |
Feb 7, 12:11 PM
#9
Thanks everyone its time to watch with clear mind now |
Feb 7, 12:14 PM
#10
Feb 7, 12:25 PM
#11
The story in Fate/Zero takes place before Fate Stay Night. So you can start with this one and then go watch the Stay/Night route. You can skip de 2006 anime, so I've heard, and go straight to Unlimited Bladeworks. And after that you can watch the Heavens Feel movies. |
Feb 7, 12:26 PM
#12
TabutcuEmmi said: So i checked it it has 2006 sequel how so? Is that a alternative version of it or something like Hxh 1999. Btw why 2006s score worse than others is it worth watching it? One more thing i looked for watch order of this. It looks like it has movies or something. So whats the best watch order to not waste my time as possible. watch all ubw first then fate zero then movies trust |
Feb 7, 1:14 PM
#13
This is a prequel designed to be watched AFTER the original |
Feb 7, 2:11 PM
#14
no start with fate zero |
Feb 7, 2:38 PM
#15
Fate has a pretty confusing watch order, but basicly all of the Fate series anime are worth watching, they're pretty good. |
Feb 7, 3:30 PM
#16
In my opinion, if you watch Fate/Zero and the Fate/Unlimited, the 90% of the Fate anime plot will be clear to you. |
Feb 7, 3:34 PM
#17
You don't start with fate/zero, absolutely do not listen to anyone who says otherwise |
Feb 7, 3:53 PM
#18
start with fate/zero. It's the airing order so intended. old fate/stay you can honestly skip. |
Feb 7, 4:55 PM
#19
Watch this fate zero first then unlimited blade works then the heavens feel movies anyone who tells you otherwise is delusional |
Feb 7, 5:53 PM
#20
The main mistake most people make when starting to watch Fate is their thinking that this universe has some sort of clear-cut viewing order. Think about it, first vn came out with a lot of endings but the same beginning, what kind of order can there be? If we talk about chronology, but you should start with Zero, because there is a clear explanation of what is the Holy Grail War. Then comes the adaptation of the novel itself. This is route Caber, the 2006 anime. UBW's Rin route. And the trilogy of movies - Sakura's route. Are they all worth watching? Yes, if you want to know all the developments and understand Fate. Where should you start? Anywhere you want to start, these routes act as a separate story, they're not connected to each other. Is the 2006 anime worth watching? Yes, since it's the only adaptation of the Saber route, but again, it's optional. Don't forget to check out Lord El-Melloi, it's a continuation of the story of one of Zero's important characters. |
Feb 7, 5:56 PM
#21
Yup this is a common problem. I haven’t started fate since the watch order definitely put me off but the animation looks insane !! So I was told and u can look it up ‘fate watch order’. I would start with Fate/stay night . |
Feb 7, 9:28 PM
#22
So its 2024 and people still cant agree on a fate watch order? |
Feb 7, 9:55 PM
#23
Omarumba said: The main mistake most people make when starting to watch Fate is their thinking that this universe has some sort of clear-cut viewing order. Think about it, first vn came out with a lot of endings but the same beginning, what kind of order can there be? If we talk about chronology, but you should start with Zero, because there is a clear explanation of what is the Holy Grail War. Then comes the adaptation of the novel itself. This is route Caber, the 2006 anime. UBW's Rin route. And the trilogy of movies - Sakura's route. Are they all worth watching? Yes, if you want to know all the developments and understand Fate. Where should you start? Anywhere you want to start, these routes act as a separate story, they're not connected to each other. Is the 2006 anime worth watching? Yes, since it's the only adaptation of the Saber route, but again, it's optional. Don't forget to check out Lord El-Melloi, it's a continuation of the story of one of Zero's important characters. well the visual novel locks you into playing in this order : “Fate” - “Ubw” - “Heavens feel” |
Feb 7, 9:55 PM
#24
Omarumba said: The main mistake most people make when starting to watch Fate is their thinking that this universe has some sort of clear-cut viewing order. Think about it, first vn came out with a lot of endings but the same beginning, what kind of order can there be? The Visual Novel forces you into playing the Routes in a defined order tho (Fate > UBW > HF). And it's not just randomly done, as each Route and their twists and climax are built on the previous one. The whole Visual Novel is in reality only one story, in a crescendo of mystery and epicness, splitted in 3 Parts. Omarumba said: If we talk about chronology, but you should start with Zero, because there is a clear explanation of what is the Holy Grail War. That's the main mistake(s) most people makes when trying to watch Fate. First, absolutely no story with a minimum of complexity will be completely chronological. If the Author can't play with the timeline of his own story, how can he introduce mystery and twists ? Second, Fate/Stay Night is mainly a slow burn psychological/mystery, not a typical action/coming-of-age story. And watching Zero first near completely change that. renz330 said: So its 2024 and people still cant agree on a fate watch order? That's something that'll never happen. Even if we were to get a Remake of the Fate Route, there'll always be Zero fags. |
"Genius lives only one storey above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
Feb 7, 10:44 PM
#25
Reply to Alexioos95
Omarumba said:
The main mistake most people make when starting to watch Fate is their thinking that this universe has some sort of clear-cut viewing order.
Think about it, first vn came out with a lot of endings but the same beginning, what kind of order can there be?
The main mistake most people make when starting to watch Fate is their thinking that this universe has some sort of clear-cut viewing order.
Think about it, first vn came out with a lot of endings but the same beginning, what kind of order can there be?
The Visual Novel forces you into playing the Routes in a defined order tho (Fate > UBW > HF). And it's not just randomly done, as each Route and their twists and climax are built on the previous one. The whole Visual Novel is in reality only one story, in a crescendo of mystery and epicness, splitted in 3 Parts.
Omarumba said:
If we talk about chronology, but you should start with Zero, because there is a clear explanation of what is the Holy Grail War.
If we talk about chronology, but you should start with Zero, because there is a clear explanation of what is the Holy Grail War.
That's the main mistake(s) most people makes when trying to watch Fate.
First, absolutely no story with a minimum of complexity will be completely chronological. If the Author can't play with the timeline of his own story, how can he introduce mystery and twists ?
Second, Fate/Stay Night is mainly a slow burn psychological/mystery, not a typical action/coming-of-age story. And watching Zero first near completely change that.
renz330 said:
So its 2024 and people still cant agree on a fate watch order?
So its 2024 and people still cant agree on a fate watch order?
That's something that'll never happen. Even if we were to get a Remake of the Fate Route, there'll always be Zero fags.
Alexioos95 said: How would that make a difference? You could watch Stay Night first and then watch Zero as a prequel. You could also watch Zero first as a prequel about the past Holy Grail War to then watch Stay Night. Both options are valid, but I personally think you should start your viewing experience with Zero first. Watching SN will spoil the ending of Zero, and watching Zero will spoil some of the details of SN. It's up to you what you risk.Second, Fate/Stay Night is mainly a slow burn psychological/mystery, not a typical action/coming-of-age story. And watching Zero first near completely change that. |
Feb 7, 11:01 PM
#26
Just watch it don’t research that’s the best way imo watch fate/zero then go wherever you feel like next, fate/zero is the best by far imo though |
Feb 7, 11:11 PM
#27
TabutcuEmmi said: So i checked it it has 2006 sequel how so? Is that a alternative version of it or something like Hxh 1999. Btw why 2006s score worse than others is it worth watching it? One more thing i looked for watch order of this. It looks like it has movies or something. So whats the best watch order to not waste my time as possible. 2006 is good the only reason the other shows have such better scores is because the animation is alot better. But 2006 is by no means bad (except that one dragon scene lol) |
Feb 7, 11:56 PM
#28
Omarumba said: How would that make a difference? You are literally removing entire genres and subplots. If that makes no difference for you, then i don't know what to say... You are simply not experiencing the same story as the ones who watched Zero after. Omarumba said: You could also watch Zero first as a prequel That's not how it works. A Prequel is literally "the past" of an already existing work ("the present" ). If you watch the Prequel first, it's not a Prequel anymore. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prequel Omarumba said: Watching SN will spoil the ending of Zero, and watching Zero will spoil some of the details of SN. Stay Night doesn't spoils the ending of Zero, because Zero is a Prequel. You are supposed to already know how Zero ends before even starting it. It's not a work in which the viewer asks himself "What will happen next ?", but "How did it happened ?". The point of Zero literally is to fill the blanks from the numerous flashbacks and explanations that were thrown in the 3 Routes, ans discover how the tragedy that led to the 5th Holy Grail War happened in the first place. However, Zero spoils nearly all major point of the 3 Routes (not just "some of the details"), thus annihilating the mystery. That's why Zero should be experienced after the 3 Routes. And that's not just my opinion, but also the one of the 2 Authors. |
Alexioos95Feb 8, 12:01 AM
"Genius lives only one storey above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
Feb 8, 12:49 AM
#29
Reply to Alexioos95
Omarumba said:
How would that make a difference?
How would that make a difference?
You are literally removing entire genres and subplots.
If that makes no difference for you, then i don't know what to say... You are simply not experiencing the same story as the ones who watched Zero after.
Omarumba said:
You could also watch Zero first as a prequel
You could also watch Zero first as a prequel
That's not how it works.
A Prequel is literally "the past" of an already existing work ("the present" ). If you watch the Prequel first, it's not a Prequel anymore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prequel
Omarumba said:
Watching SN will spoil the ending of Zero, and watching Zero will spoil some of the details of SN.
Watching SN will spoil the ending of Zero, and watching Zero will spoil some of the details of SN.
Stay Night doesn't spoils the ending of Zero, because Zero is a Prequel.
You are supposed to already know how Zero ends before even starting it. It's not a work in which the viewer asks himself "What will happen next ?", but "How did it happened ?". The point of Zero literally is to fill the blanks from the numerous flashbacks and explanations that were thrown in the 3 Routes, ans discover how the tragedy that led to the 5th Holy Grail War happened in the first place.
However, Zero spoils nearly all major point of the 3 Routes (not just "some of the details"), thus annihilating the mystery. That's why Zero should be experienced after the 3 Routes. And that's not just my opinion, but also the one of the 2 Authors.
Alexioos95 said: I wrote that conditionally. You know how to pick on words, and you obviously love it. That's not how it works. Alexioos95 said: You are supposed to already know how Zero ends before even starting it. This only works if we're talking about visual novel and light novel Zero. However, here we're talking about the anime adaptation from Ufotable, where Zero came out before Stay Night. Zero also, like Stay Night, has a standalone story with unexpected twists and turns, which you'll spoiler yourself by watching Stay Night first. The fact that Zero is a prequel doesn't negate that. Alexioos95 said: Not the most significant ones. It's one thing to watch Stay Night first and learn everything important that was in Zero from quick flashbacks, but it's another to watch Zero and learn about the existence of Gilgamesh and the essence of Kirei and who Sakura really is. However, Zero spoils nearly all major point of the 3 Routes |
Feb 8, 1:16 AM
#30
Omarumba said: You know how to pick on words, and you obviously love it. Yes, because it's extremely important. Everyone misuse such words, nowadays, and it means nothing anymore... Omarumba said: However, here we're talking about the anime adaptation from Ufotable, where Zero came out before Stay Night. Yes, adaptations. While they attract a lot of new viewers, and thus bring more money to the producers, from the point of view of the Author, they are simply a reward, both for him and his fans. That still doesn't change what the stories are about, and the intentions behind it; it's just that the new viewers are not aware/discard them. And Zero still came out after the 2006 Anime (which adapted the Fate Route, with also some infos of the other 2 Routes). Omarumba said: Zero also, like Stay Night, has a standalone story with unexpected twists and turns, which you'll spoiler yourself by watching Stay Night first. The fact that Zero is a prequel doesn't negate that. That's entriely true. When a Prequel is well written, it can often be taken as a stand-alone, and still be (highly !) enjoyed. The problem, is that by doing so, you change the meaning of the original work, which also means the intentions of the Authors. You can justify liking the Prequel more, and it's totally understandable, but that's not the case for wrecking what the Author tried to do. Omarumba said: Not the most significant ones. The identity of Saber, Kiritsugu being the Master of Saber, Kiritsugu not being a bastard, Kirei being the bastard, Kirei killing Rin's father, Gilgamesh's identity, Sakura and Rin being sisters, Sakura's fate at Matou's house, the Holy Grail being a corrupted ritual, Illya being Kiritsugu's daughter, Illya being an homonculus, ... There is a lot more. All mysteries, aside from the ones surrounding Archer, are casually spoiled in Zero, with the majority of them in the 1st Episode. Omarumba said: It's one thing to watch Stay Night first and learn everything important that was in Zero from quick flashbacks, but it's another to watch Zero and learn about the existence of Gilgamesh and the essence of Kirei and who Sakura really is. It's indeed 2 different things, which is why i said those who watched Zero first did not experienced the same story as the ones who did so in last. For instance, everything surrounding Sakura is revealed only in Heaven's Feel, so after (around) 60h of story (for the Visual Novel). That's a big ass twist, that went completely unsuspected all that time... ! Which was casually talked about as if nothing in the few minutes of Zero... |
"Genius lives only one storey above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
Feb 8, 1:32 AM
#31
Reply to Alexioos95
Omarumba said:
You know how to pick on words, and you obviously love it.
You know how to pick on words, and you obviously love it.
Yes, because it's extremely important. Everyone misuse such words, nowadays, and it means nothing anymore...
Omarumba said:
However, here we're talking about the anime adaptation from Ufotable, where Zero came out before Stay Night.
However, here we're talking about the anime adaptation from Ufotable, where Zero came out before Stay Night.
Yes, adaptations. While they attract a lot of new viewers, and thus bring more money to the producers, from the point of view of the Author, they are simply a reward, both for him and his fans. That still doesn't change what the stories are about, and the intentions behind it; it's just that the new viewers are not aware/discard them.
And Zero still came out after the 2006 Anime (which adapted the Fate Route, with also some infos of the other 2 Routes).
Omarumba said:
Zero also, like Stay Night, has a standalone story with unexpected twists and turns, which you'll spoiler yourself by watching Stay Night first. The fact that Zero is a prequel doesn't negate that.
Zero also, like Stay Night, has a standalone story with unexpected twists and turns, which you'll spoiler yourself by watching Stay Night first. The fact that Zero is a prequel doesn't negate that.
That's entriely true.
When a Prequel is well written, it can often be taken as a stand-alone, and still be (highly !) enjoyed. The problem, is that by doing so, you change the meaning of the original work, which also means the intentions of the Authors. You can justify liking the Prequel more, and it's totally understandable, but that's not the case for wrecking what the Author tried to do.
Omarumba said:
Not the most significant ones.
Not the most significant ones.
The identity of Saber, Kiritsugu being the Master of Saber, Kiritsugu not being a bastard, Kirei being the bastard, Kirei killing Rin's father, Gilgamesh's identity, Sakura and Rin being sisters, Sakura's fate at Matou's house, the Holy Grail being a corrupted ritual, Illya being Kiritsugu's daughter, Illya being an homonculus, ...
There is a lot more. All mysteries, aside from the ones surrounding Archer, are casually spoiled in Zero, with the majority of them in the 1st Episode.
Omarumba said:
It's one thing to watch Stay Night first and learn everything important that was in Zero from quick flashbacks, but it's another to watch Zero and learn about the existence of Gilgamesh and the essence of Kirei and who Sakura really is.
It's one thing to watch Stay Night first and learn everything important that was in Zero from quick flashbacks, but it's another to watch Zero and learn about the existence of Gilgamesh and the essence of Kirei and who Sakura really is.
It's indeed 2 different things, which is why i said those who watched Zero first did not experienced the same story as the ones who did so in last.
For instance, everything surrounding Sakura is revealed only in Heaven's Feel, so after (around) 60h of story (for the Visual Novel). That's a big ass twist, that went completely unsuspected all that time... ! Which was casually talked about as if nothing in the few minutes of Zero...
@Alexioos95 I understand you, that's why I originally wrote in the first comment that Stay Night and Zero spoiler each other, so everyone starts watching the way they want, risking something (the main thing is not to start with Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya, haha). Fate is a damn cool universe, and if you take it so seriously, wanting to know everything, it's better to familiarize yourself with the visual novel first. Anyway I expressed my opinion, as you did, and the topic..... people will continue to argue about it after us. |
Feb 8, 3:20 AM
#32
you can go and just watch it and worry about the other installments later. |
Feb 8, 4:51 AM
#33
Omarumba said: Alexioos95 said: How would that make a difference? You could watch Stay Night first and then watch Zero as a prequel. You could also watch Zero first as a prequel about the past Holy Grail War to then watch Stay Night. Both options are valid, but I personally think you should start your viewing experience with Zero first. Watching SN will spoil the ending of Zero, and watching Zero will spoil some of the details of SN. It's up to you what you risk.Second, Fate/Stay Night is mainly a slow burn psychological/mystery, not a typical action/coming-of-age story. And watching Zero first near completely change that. Zero does nothing with the spoilers it gives you for stay night. The "spoilers" for zero given in stay night are used to develop the characters or are the the resolutions of route-long mysteries. It's not even comparable. In FSN kirei's psyche and backstory is a mystery kept hidden until the last stretch of the story, in zero it gets spoonfed to him by a demigod figure and makes him look like a typical edgelord midwit that just needed to be told "have fun lol!" |
Feb 8, 5:01 AM
#34
Reply to offcrack
Omarumba said:
Alexioos95 said:
Second, Fate/Stay Night is mainly a slow burn psychological/mystery, not a typical action/coming-of-age story. And watching Zero first near completely change that.
How would that make a difference? You could watch Stay Night first and then watch Zero as a prequel. You could also watch Zero first as a prequel about the past Holy Grail War to then watch Stay Night. Both options are valid, but I personally think you should start your viewing experience with Zero first. Watching SN will spoil the ending of Zero, and watching Zero will spoil some of the details of SN. It's up to you what you risk.Second, Fate/Stay Night is mainly a slow burn psychological/mystery, not a typical action/coming-of-age story. And watching Zero first near completely change that.
Zero does nothing with the spoilers it gives you for stay night. The "spoilers" for zero given in stay night are used to develop the characters or are the the resolutions of route-long mysteries. It's not even comparable.
In FSN kirei's psyche and backstory is a mystery kept hidden until the last stretch of the story, in zero it gets spoonfed to him by a demigod figure and makes him look like a typical edgelord midwit that just needed to be told "have fun lol!"
@offcrack Ha-ha, by watching Stay Night you'll know how the Holy Grail War ended in Zero, you'll know who survived and who didn't, thus spoiling your viewing experience. At the same time, watching Zero in the first place will spoil you with other details that are also important, but at the very least, the ending itself will remain unknown to you. I wrote to the person above, I'll write to you too - it's up to each person to choose where to start. |
Feb 8, 5:15 AM
#35
Reply to offcrack
Omarumba said:
Alexioos95 said:
Second, Fate/Stay Night is mainly a slow burn psychological/mystery, not a typical action/coming-of-age story. And watching Zero first near completely change that.
How would that make a difference? You could watch Stay Night first and then watch Zero as a prequel. You could also watch Zero first as a prequel about the past Holy Grail War to then watch Stay Night. Both options are valid, but I personally think you should start your viewing experience with Zero first. Watching SN will spoil the ending of Zero, and watching Zero will spoil some of the details of SN. It's up to you what you risk.Second, Fate/Stay Night is mainly a slow burn psychological/mystery, not a typical action/coming-of-age story. And watching Zero first near completely change that.
Zero does nothing with the spoilers it gives you for stay night. The "spoilers" for zero given in stay night are used to develop the characters or are the the resolutions of route-long mysteries. It's not even comparable.
In FSN kirei's psyche and backstory is a mystery kept hidden until the last stretch of the story, in zero it gets spoonfed to him by a demigod figure and makes him look like a typical edgelord midwit that just needed to be told "have fun lol!"
offcrack said: Yes, you're right. But let me give you an analogy. Gilgamesh in Stay Night is shown as a complete idiot who not only underestimates his opponents, but also does not try to use his own strength. In Zero, however, he is presented in a different light as a rather valiant ruler who respects his enemies. By watching Stay Night first you will not only spoil your impressions of this character in Zero, but you will also know how he will end his story in Zero and Stay Night. What do you think?In FSN kirei's psyche and backstory is a mystery kept hidden until the last stretch of the story, in zero it gets spoonfed to him by a demigod figure and makes him look like a typical edgelord midwit that just needed to be told "have fun lol!" |
Feb 8, 5:21 AM
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Feb 8, 7:20 AM
#38
Just don’t worry about it |
Feb 8, 8:10 AM
#39
Just watch Zero, Stay Night and Unlimited Blade Works, Heaven's Feel is the worst thing i've ever watched so I think you can skip that and since is almost the same thing as S/N and UBW you'll not be loosing nothing. |
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Feb 8, 7:01 PM
#40
Omarumba said: offcrack said: Yes, you're right. But let me give you an analogy. Gilgamesh in Stay Night is shown as a complete idiot who not only underestimates his opponents, but also does not try to use his own strength. In Zero, however, he is presented in a different light as a rather valiant ruler who respects his enemies. By watching Stay Night first you will not only spoil your impressions of this character in Zero, but you will also know how he will end his story in Zero and Stay Night. What do you think?In FSN kirei's psyche and backstory is a mystery kept hidden until the last stretch of the story, in zero it gets spoonfed to him by a demigod figure and makes him look like a typical edgelord midwit that just needed to be told "have fun lol!" I don't really think that gilgamesh has much thematic relevance nor is interesting enough to warrant taking priority like that, both end up as foils to shirou but gilgamesh is portrayed as such to send a message while kirei's relation to him is much more fundamental, something like a reflection in a mirror |
Feb 9, 9:59 AM
#42
There is a lot of buildup and well timed revelation in Stay that you simply miss if you watch any of the others first. True that it is far and away the worst on the list, but it sets up Zero and UBW really well. But regardless of which order you decide for the other 3, Heavens Feel should always be the last, imo. |
Feb 9, 1:30 PM
#43
TabutcuEmmi said: So i checked it it has 2006 sequel how so? Is that a alternative version of it or something like Hxh 1999. Btw why 2006s score worse than others is it worth watching it? One more thing i looked for watch order of this. It looks like it has movies or something. So whats the best watch order to not waste my time as possible. p1. fate zero s1 and s2 2. fate ubw s1 and s2 3. fate heavens feel 1, 2, 3 just watch all this and leave the rest |
Feb 10, 3:17 AM
#44
Bolona07 said: This is a prequel designed to be watched AFTER the original This right here. I don’t get how people can’t understand how prequels work. You’re not gonna watch Star Wars 1, 2, and 3 before 4, 5, and 6. George Lucas made the prequels 16 YEARS AFTER the original trilogy. |
Feb 10, 3:21 AM
#45
Omarumba said: @Alexioos95 I understand you, that's why I originally wrote in the first comment that Stay Night and Zero spoiler each other, so everyone starts watching the way they want, risking something (the main thing is not to start with Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya, haha). Fate is a damn cool universe, and if you take it so seriously, wanting to know everything, it's better to familiarize yourself with the visual novel first. Anyway I expressed my opinion, as you did, and the topic..... people will continue to argue about it after us. I disagree with the spoiling. Imagine yourself on the year that the Fate VNs released and you play them. You know these plots now. Then, Fate/Zero anime releases years later. Just think about the Star Wars trilogy. |
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