Pokemon (2023) Episode 1 Discussion

cooroxd said:
Liko is hot af. Can't wait for some fanfic doujin of her  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

cooroxd said:
Liko is hot af. Can't wait for some fanfic doujin of her  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

DazeFire said:
loved the first ep already so much happening

also i already love Liko she already has so much more character than satoshi thats its actually pretty funny (also she got best new starter!)

with that said though im already loving the new direction the anime is going 

KittyyRosa said:
honestly I loved it. I love how they've changed the Pokémon world in the time skip from when ash was a trainer, I thought it was really cool how she started at a school having to learn how to use moves, I loved the new main character, I loved the little we have seen so far of the plotline with the new legendary. I stopped watching Pokémon halfway through sun and moon cause it got so repetitive and this is definitely a much needed refresh of the series and if it keeps on this trajectory it will be amazing

OmletCat said:
dull start

ChenChan2020 said:
dull start? are you ok? lol

usvaneko said:
This didn't feel like pokemon at all. No, we don't need Ash and Pikachu screaming on every episode to it feel like pokemon, but this was totally different from what we've seen so far.

Valyrian1124 said:
Starts off in Kanto, depicts it as a tamed, civilized land with paved roads and modern infrastructure and highways everywhere like modern Japan rather than the dangerous, untamed wilderness of the original show. The show takes place in "Tokiwa city". Grey modernist buildings everywhere. They really should have just set in Japan.

JDSOLIMAN said:
Everyones so busy comparing the new MC to ash that nobody is complaining about the biggest plothole. "How is that Sprigatito use the move Sleeping powder when in the game it can't."

CartoonVelocirap said:
I haven't watched Pokemon in a long time. I was slightly flummoxed to learn that Ash finally won a league (other than the Orange Islands and Battle Frontier), and that the Pokemon Company would finally make way for another main protagonist.

I went into this episode not knowing quite what to expect, but I was nonetheless pleased with what I found. This was a solid first episode, establishing our main heroine as an anxious but eager kid who's slightly in over her head, who will slowly learn the tricks of the trade when it comes to being a Pokemon Trainer.

What I was certainly not pleased with is almost everything past the 18½ minute mark. I subscribe to the notion that a first episode should encapsulate exactly what the series as a whole will be. This episode did nothing of the sort. It showed us a random Deus ex machina, then ended on a cliffhanger. And I know for a fact that there's a whole other main character they haven't introduced yet. If you need to make ep 1 double the length of a normal episode, do so; just make sure the message you're sending to your audience is NOT "Tune in next time to have if you wanna have even the slightest idea what we're doing here or what the fuck's going on!"

Furthermore, this shadowy organization really seems like something that a bad writer would turn into a season-long (if not series-long) intrigue plot, and the same goes for Liko's Deus ex machina pendant. If that last paragraph didn't clue you into this fact about me, I don't like stories that are extremely coy about actually TELLING their story, and that simply opt to dangle pointless mysteries over the heads of their audience. If we don't soon find out what the hell's going on with both of these elements (and who the hell the dude with the Charizard is), I won't hesitate to drop the series.

Dinosaurtime_YT said:
Bro seems to REALLY hate mystery series.

CartoonVelocirap said:
I don't hate mystery series, I hate mystery-mongering. Big difference. A mystery story is always working towards figuring out the mystery. A mystery-mongering story is when a hack writer teases you with a supposed mystery that by all rights shouldn't be one.

Think about this. After the first 3 episodes, we're still lacking answers to some very basic questions like:

- What the hell kind of power does Liko's pendant have?
- Who are the Explorers?
- What are they planning to do with Liko's pendant?
- Who are the Rising Volt Tacklers?
- What was with them supposedly being in the employ of Liko's parents?

Would you really prefer to be told the answers to these basic questions 50 episodes from now, or in the next episode? Which would make the story more engaging?

The reason the writers aren't telling you the answers to these basic questions up front is that they don't want to engage you in their story; they want to drip-feed you clues so you'll keep watching as long as possible. It's addiction-based storytelling.

JDSOLIMAN said:
Everyones so busy comparing the new MC to ash that nobody is complaining about the biggest plothole. "How is that Sprigatito use the move Sleeping powder when in the game it can't."

Dinosaurtime_YT said:
Ok so, if you were to read a story about the murder of Mr Smith, the central question or mystery of the story is "Who killed Mr Smith?"

It's the same here. You watch a story about a mysterious magical pendant. The central question of the story is "What tf is up with this pendant?"

They aren't going to reveal who killed Mr Smith in the first 3 chapters are they?

A mystery series is supposed to "drip-feed" the audience clues. You get to solving the mystery slowly but surely.

Also "a supposed mystery that by all rights shouldn't be one." It isn't up to you whether something is a mystery or not. It's up to the writer.

CartoonVelocirap said:
You're missing my point. This isn't a mystery series. It's an adventure-fantasy-comedy series.

The story isn't about Liko's pendant, it's about Liko's journey as a trainer. She knows something's up with the pendant, but 3 episodes after it first showed itself to possess some strange power, she isn't making any effort to figure it out. She hasn't called her parents or grandmother to ask "Um hey, I know this sounds weird, but why does my pendant keep glowing when I'm in danger," nor has she asked the Rising Volt Tacklers to help her figure it out.

Furthermore, a mystery series (at least, a good one) doesn't drip-feed clues to its audience, it spends its time having the characters puzzle out what's going on and actively get closer to solving the mystery. And after 4 episodes, this show is doing nothing of the sort.

And it may well be up to the writers what to tell us and what to tease us with, but it's up to the audience to decide if what they've written is actually good. You—for reasons that still elude me—seem to think it's a perfectly good idea for a writer to withhold from their audience necessary infomation to understand what the characters are even doing, where the story is going, or even what the point of the story is.

I disagree.

You—for reasons that still elude me—seem to think it's a perfectly good idea for a writer to withhold from their audience necessary infomation to understand what the characters are even doing, where the story is going, or even what the point of the story is.

InfinityDude88 said:
really fun and energetic